When Did The Roman Catholic Church Go Wonky?
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- Today, Christians understand that there are many significant doctrinal differences between Protestants and Catholics. When and where, though, did the Roman Catholic church start on the road to heresy, false teaching, and apostasy? Jump in the Delorean with Todd as we go on a history lesson through the errors, heresies, and blasphemies of the Roman Catholic Church.
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I was raised Catholic, born in the 50's, we had a family Bible for listing the family tree but weren't aloud to read it-the priests said laymen couldn't understand it without their help. In the 70's as a teen I received apologetic training by the priest to counter what "evil history teachers" and evangelizing classmates said. God moved us to a state where the priest didn't get involved with the youth. Friends prayed for me and kept quoting Scripture. Curiosity got me (actually the Lord drew me) to the Word. I read it on my own and saw many discrepancies with Catholic teaching, God taught me His Word through my reading, His Spirit enlightening and faithful Bible teachers. Went to a Baptist church and Catholic mass for awhile. I was saved by God and His Word. I even wrote the priest and told him how he could get saved. Never heard from him. "Depend on it, if we learn anything correctly, we will have to learn it from God." Spurgeon
I went through the same thing as you did, but I was raised baptist/non-denominational, and converted to Catholicism in college. I've never been happier to depart from the apostacy of the Roman Catholic "Church".
Hallelujah! Praise the Lord for your salvation!
I knew a catholic man at work and for years would casually speak to him about the differences. He didn’t want to talk about it. He defended the church. One day at church he had a Bible in his hands and the priest chastised him. The priest told him “you don’t know what’s in that Bible, we tell you what’s in it”. He went home and started reading it. A week later he came up to me and told me what happened and that he had been mistaught for 50 years and was very mad about it. He converted to Christianity.
@@williamgullett5911 praise God!
Lying is a sin.
40 years Catholic, I started reading the bible and it took 7 days to leave the Catholic church. First Timothy 4:1-5 put me on a path.
As an x-catholic, my story is much the same as yours. The truth will set you free.
@@billdickerson512 You were never a Catholic.
Sorry to hear that brother. I have a bad feeling this won’t bode well at your exit interview.
Psalm 119:11, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee." When we do not know God's word, we will sin against Him more. If anyone reads the Bible it will open their eyes to the evil in the world and where it is.
@patriceagulu8315 I did!
Sad thing is that as a kid, I couldn't see the difference between witchcraft and Catholicism. The occult was more "fun.". Jesus saved me from both years later.
To be honest, many have said that Catholicism is Paganism but it's always seemed to me to be more wiccan than that. What with the buying and grading of human remains, the delusion and coercion of seeing Christ in a piece of flat bread at the threat of excommunication and the alters and the sacrifice of Christ as a victim even though he voluntarily went to the cross with full knowledge of what He would endure negates the assertion that He was a victim entirely. It seems closer to witchcraft to me to be honest.
As per my request, my aunt sent me a book to strengthen my faith in the RCC. It took me some time as I had never read a Bible before, but as I compared the two it became obvious to me that I needed to leave the church. A few months later I came to Christ at a Billy Graham crusade! MANY years later I discovered the reformed faith and everything finally made sense.
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The #1 issue with Catholicism for me is absolutely Mariology. Nothing about what Catholics say about her is true and it just completely takes me out of it. Catholics try and argue they don't "worship" Mary when basically all I ever see is them worshipping Mary and putting her on a pedestal above Jesus. But let's hypothetically say they don't ACTUALLY worship Mary.
They declare her to be a perpetual virgin when she had other children. They declare her to have had an immacculate conception (which undermines Jesus being the only immacculate conception). They also declare that she never sinned in her life, while at the same time declaring she was a perpetual virgin. These two things are complete contradictions, because she was married.
1 Corinthians 7 "3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."
Jesus was a perpetual virgin, but he also never married. If Mary was a perpetual virign then that contradicts her need to be sexually faithful to her husband. Therefore, she sinned against her husband, and could not be forever without sin. Its a catch-22, literally an impossible situation.
Catholics in general try to downplay sex overall, though, so that's not surprising. Sex is both for pleasure and for children in marriage, its not just one or the other. The angel even tells Joseph not to sleep with her until after the baby is born, directly implying that yes, they will consummate after that is done.
Another thing that comes up is that they also sometimes call her the "Queen of Heaven". The "Queen of Heaven" actually DOES exist as a term in the Bible:
Jeremiah 7 "17 Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. 19 But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?"
This obviously predates the existence of Mary, and its clearly describing worshipping a false Goddess. Its another description of the depravity and idolatry of Israel.
Purgatory and the Papacy are other pretty big issues, but Mariology IMO is by far the worst aspect.
As for the Apocrypha, it already was translated by Jerome because they believed the Apocrypha was good reading to support the scriptures but not actual Scripture. Later they decided to incorporate it as actual Scripture, and it contains certain things that they use for examples of "praying for the dead" for their concept of "purgatory".
The problem is that the examples used here do not qualify. The fallen soldiers that were being prayed for in 2 Maccabees were found to be guilty of idolatry. Idolatry is a "carnal" sin which means you must go to confession to have your sins forgiven again to not go to hell. Purgatory is only for those who still have to pay penance but haven't committed any carnal sins.
It goes way beyond Mariology. Nearly every single thing about Roman Catholic dogma is heretical and pagan. By using the measure of scripture found in Galatians 1:8-9, Roman Catholics are not Christians at all. They preach an entirely different gospel based on works. This is also evident in the fact that modern polytheists such as Hindus reject Christianity, but accept RC because they see it similar to their religion. They see the worship of Mary and the saints as the same as themselves worshipping Hindu idols. Most polytheistic cultures get along because they’re all worshipping the same demons. This is why we as Christians must always be spreading the Gospel of Jesus to all, including those who claim to be Christian. For His glory, He will save them, not through Roman Catholic dogma, but in spite of it. As alway, Soli Deo Gloria.
I worked at a Catholic School and I can say with 100% certainty that they worship Mary. They're being disingenuous, I saw it first hand. I've seen them bow to a statue of her and put a crown on the statues head. I also witnessed borderline necromancy. One of the priests mother had died and he asked us to pray to her and she would very much appreciate it.
My friend says the RCC “venerates” Mary, not worship. But when you pray to her, sing songs of praise to her, put up statues to her…it’s simply worship under another title.
@@AstroMonkey88 I know it goes well beyond Mariology. Not making that argument. What I am saying is that Mariology alone is enough to turn me completely off Catholicism.
One of the major mistakes with the notion of Catholicism in their Maryology is found in the Gospel of Luke Chpt 1 verse 47, if she is as they say co-redemtrix, born without sin, why does she call God her Saviour? Surely a sinless person does not need saving?
That's why I left the RCC, I compared the Catechism of 1992 with the Bible and then it was impossible for me to receive Eucharist again. By the grace of God I haven't looked back since.
1992 Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life:
You must mean something else...surely you believe that Jesus died for you and his blood has atoned for your sins.
The Eucharist is very biblical. Start with John 6 and read again the last supper accounts. I would also urge you to read The Fourth Cup by former Protestant minister Scott Hahn.
Everything about the Eucharist is in the BIble. John 6.
I really hope you don't mean to abandon the Eucharist because Jesus was extremely clear in the bible about the bread and drink being his literal body and blood for our salvation.. and he even lost a lot of followers because they thought that was hard to take in. It's all in John's gospel and even in the last supper He was very clear when He said the bread and wine IS His body and blood. Eucharistic miracles have existed since the 300s ADs. Even Martin Luther believed in God's presence in the Eucharist!!!!!
@@XxANGELTEARxX8 I mean it would be nice if Rome didn't practice Idolatry of the Virgin Mary or teach that we had to earn/pay for our sins in order to get into heaven instead of having faith that Christ paid it IN FULL... but since you can't be Roman Catholic without believing in paying indulgences... I'd have to settle for Luther's path (Luther never denied Eucharist; but he, like myself, can not receive under the Cannon Law of the Roman Church since we don't recognize Papal Authority as superior to Scripture)
Todd this is one of your best yet.
When the RCC began to refer to Mary as "co-redeemer," it became crystal clear to me how apostate they had become. She is highly favored, yes, but co-redeemer??
No.
God permitted the redemption of mankind to the free will decision of a human. The graces that come through Jesus come to us in a secondary way through Mary. That’s what Catholics think of Mary as co redeemer
Mary's own justification is based on her faith in God and her willingness to obey him. She is referred to as redemptrix, not redeemer.
Well done, Todd. I was born into Roman Catholicism, and my pathway out into the freedom of the Reformed tradition replicated this history lesson in many ways. A difficult journey, but I knew God was with me every step of the way. I had my Luther moment early in my college years. I tried and tried to get RC priests to engage with me and my questions, and none were really willing to. I was teaching elementary school kids in Confraternity of Christian Doctrine classes and stumbled over so many Catholic practices that I could not substantiate in the Bible - which I was actually discouraged from reading by priests and nuns. I knew Scripture was authoritative - my spirit bearing witness to the Holy Spirit-breathed Word. Finally, I started reading Luther and Calvin for myself, and the jig was up. My eyes were opened to the falsehoods of the Roman Catholic church and its teachings. Sola fides. Sola gratia. Sola Scriptura. Soli Deo Gloria.
I don't think you meant it this way, but I do need to make sure. It is not the "Reformed tradition" (in the literal sense) that gives you freedom, but Christ.
I grew up being told that I was Roman Catholic. I had to go to church, Catechism, all the things that a Catholic mother makes her son and daughters do.
I hated confession with all my heart. Thankfully my mother only made me go twice a year- Christmas and Easter.
It seemed odd to me that God was all powerful and all knowing, but that I had to tell a man my sins; and then I could say five Hail Mary's and all was forgiven.
At 15 I refused to go anymore to church, telling my mom, "I'll go to church when Dad goes to church.
After that, I became an atheist until God showed me the truth of the matter.
I thank the Lord for bringing me to Him.
The Bible says we are saved by faith but it doesn't say by faith alone. Therefore the Bible refutes Sola Fides. Where in scripture does it say we should rely on scripture alone? It doesn't say that. Check out 1 Timothy 3:15 "The church is the pillar and bulwark of truth." I'm afraid this is a distorted history lesson. Ever read the early church fathers?
I'm also a "born" catholic...until the day I was sitting on hard pew and took a good look around at everything going on around me, and the Lord convicted me. I knew right there, there was something not right about that place and teachings. I walked away from it all, until the day called and Saved me!!!!! Halleluyah!!!! Blessings brother!!! Let now reach out to the poor souls still traped in that place. ❤️
@@freedom4life312 it may be that there wasn't something right there. There are some bad priests. There are bad Catholics but if you read the early church fathers you'll see they were Catholic.
This is great! Thank you!
Raised in a Catholic family/home and community but praise God He pursued me and opened my eyes to find salvation in Jesus alone🙌🏻. Raising my boys in truth and starting a new legacy.
Why didn't you know Jesus as a Catholic? I'm Catholic and my love for Jesus is on fire. How much were you taught by your parents and people in your parish? Did your parents model the faith at home or were they the type that only go through the motions while not understanding the teachings?
Because they covered the death and resurrection of Jesus with Mary worship and praying to saints. Mary was "holding back the hand" of HER SON who wanted to crush the world in anger. You should see the "Mary prayer cards" my mom got. Thankfully I was saved as a teen and knew these were lies. Jesus was second class to Mary in Catholicism in the church in my town.
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@@nancywest1926 If your claim is true, then you need to study the actual teachings of the Church and go back to your people and correct them. Ignorance and illiteracy can make some Catholics do the wrong things without knowing it. Instead of leaving the church Christ founded a man-made Protestant church, you should become a knowledgeable Catholic unlike what you used to be.
@@Lerian_V The institution someone belongs to will never save them, only Christ can.
Thanks for this..
A Catholic apologist just asked me how people got saved before Luther. I answered, the same way they always have. They read a Bible and trusted God instead of ceremonies, memberships, and good deeds. (Big mistake on the RCC’s part, letting people see Bibles.)
But they didn't read bibles. The early church didn't have any bibles and you couldn't just get books off amazon.
@@KennyBare then they HEARD the word preached.
@@KennyBare That's actually a myth. If you look into it they had the gospels very early. Yes they obviously didn't have the full New Testament but there's evidence that shows the early church had the core gospel books in the 1st century and then many of Paul's writings not long after
I'm wondering how the Catholic apologist thinks people were saved before the coming of the Messiah? Haven't people always been saved by grace through faith in the promises of God?
@@dotero1817 I'm not catholic. But I don't think the Bible is the foundation of the Christian faith nor is it necessary for salvation. In the same way the catholic apologists are wrong, how were people saved before the Bible was compiled?
Maybe it’s because I met God when I was totally isolated and didn’t even have internet, this was before social media anyway, but...I started and continue walking with God with nothing but prayer, a dusty old family Bible, and a Christian music CD someone once gave for Christmas and I found buried in a closet while hiding there. From the beginning Jesus has been my teacher and even after he rescued me from my circumstances and gave me physical freedom, Jesus and the Bible has remained my sole teacher. I interact with other Christians and listen to Christians and what they have to say...but at the end of the day my walk and the way I take is based solely on the Bible I read every morning and night, the Holy Spirit who leads me and helps me, and my prayers which I use to ask about things in the Bible I don’t understand or want to apply. I can’t even take credit for this way in which I walk because it was God who taught me and disciplined me and basically funneled me into the river in which I ride. We all stand and fall before Jesus. We all have access to His Word and all His advice and commandments. I don’t judge but I do wish with all my heart that everyone could experience a walk like mine because it’s truly amazing.
So I guess youve never read a science book!
@@Robert-xp4bn I believe Jesus was a man too. I believe Jesus was nothing more than a first century cult leader whose story got exaggerated
Mighty BIG AMEN to your great TESTIMONY to HIN.
GOD IS AMAZING BEFOR THE WORLD WAS EVER BORN WE WERE DESTINATED TO BA SAVED😃😃😃
@@ayybeealternative1999 If you truly do not know anything about Jesus or the Bible. Or Religion period. Im guessing that's the case. Your only purpose on coming here is to bash people. And you just believe in Science. So are people like you the future of the Science CULT? I think I will stick with Christianity. And most scientists "which is not you" are becoming believers every day. because they cannot deny the fact that there must be a intelligent design behind the Universe. Bye! but I will Pray for you. Because thats what we do.
Thank you for this video!
You shouldn’t thank someone for deceiving you.
Thank you for information
This is a subject I’ve studied a good bit. 313 ad. is when the whole thing started sliding down that slope. When Constantine decided Christians weren’t as bad as he thought. He started to blend paganism with Christianity. Some of those people were so relieved not to be hunted anymore they figured what was a little paganism among friends? By 400 ad. The real Christians had to go underground again.
In my area, there is NO church that teaches only from the Bible! My good friend and I have resorted to listening to good pastors on CZcams and getting together and having a Bible study together. These end times are difficult to navigate, BUT GOD…..!
Have you read Crossing the Tiber or Catholicism and Fundamentalism? Good Catholic apologetics to round out your studies.
I would suggest to you that the whole thing started sliding down that slope much earlier, beginning with Ignatius of Antioch (d. c. 110 AD) saying that bishops should rightly stand in the place of Christ and God over the local assembly, a trend that became empire wide by 187 AD, curiously about the same time frame that the miracles of the Spirit severely declined. The Catholic bishops' usage of Nicolaitan authority to ostracize and push out the hyper-charismatic Montanists around that same time was also another sign that religion had replaced relationship (one's first love) with God.
Good for you knowing unbiblical teaching when you hear it and staying out of it.
Where I live, it's Buddhism & Mormonism.
CZcams, audio books and my house with my family have been the places for knowledge and worship.
@@neilgirrard5989 Nicolaitan authority? like the Nicolaitans that John spoke about? I hadn't heard about this authority before? any suggested sources?
@@slamdancer1720 Rev. 2:6, 15 is where it's said by Jesus. It's never explained and no group has been conclusively shown to be the Nicolaitans which seems to indicate that God has kept the Nicolaitans' identity to Himself as He said He would do with the tares. The literal meaning of the Greek word is "Nico," to rule or conquer, and "laitan," the people. The best source is the Spirit of truth that leads into all truth. Philip Schaff is probably the best source for church history. Blessings!!!
Good video👍
Great content as usual
Great video ! Great video !
Thanks Todd! Fantastically simple breakdown. Will be saving this in my list of informative vids to send on. Many of my evangelical mates seem to be clueless about the gaping chasm between the denominations.
Please be aware, 99.9% of what he has posted here is factually false.
@@cjgodley1776 Facts cannot be false. Whether you believe them or not, that's a whole other issue. What did he say that is false? I can't stand it when someone says something is wrong or false and then doesn't specify any further. That's like having a debate and your counterpoint is "you're wrong".
@@buixrule The Catholic Church did not add to the Bible, the Protestants removed from the Bible. Do you know that the Protestants also wanted to remove the book of James and couple of others? If this information surprised you, look into it further.
This 'simple breakdown' is hardly informative, in fact its very misleading. As someone who came to the protestant faith in my 20s I only listened to the protestant side and protestants in my life confirming my early bias on how 'heretical' the Catholic church is.
However, when I started researching early church history more extensively - I realised everything I was taught & believed about the Catholic church were nothing but hollow straw-man arguments that can easily be taken down by Catholic apologists who KNOW their faith and explain it with clarity.
@@buixrule so what he argues are false because they are not facts. If you truly believe in facts as truths, then ask Catholics exactly what they believe and not what some junky Protestant thinks Catholics believe. At least respect their opinion believe and judge for yourself. It’s childish, unfair and unjust to claim Catholics do something they do not and judge them on that.
I was raised Catholic. Since I was a teenager I asked a lot of questions because I could sense at that age that their teaching
were not biblical. During CCD class I asked multiple times why we prayed to Mary. The whole concept of confession to a priest and him "absolving" us of our sins made no sense. As an adult I left the catholic church and found a wonderful Bible based protestant church.
Only Christ and his direct entourage could perform miracles with HIS authority, of which forgiveness and damnation were included.... how RCs claim random guys that went through seminary get that power is *inconceivable* (princess bride).
Oddly, I don't recall any mention of the primary dozen apostles and seventy disciples actually forgiving sins. They raised the dead and did all kinds of healing but that wasn't among the list of chronicled actions.
@@nobodyspecial1852 You never read the bible.
So, which Bible based Protestant group did you find that was greater than anything God ever did?
Wonderful , Vow.
Thanks so much!
God bless you.
Thank you.
Don’t thank someone for lying to you.
Well done
It’s been wonky from the first lie
I happen to stumble on this. I left the Catholic Church when I was 16 (I’m now 51). Since then, I’m an outcast with my family. My only sibling, my sister is President of her community who is Franciscan (we know it really to be the mother superior of her convent). Talk about wonky…anyway thank you, I learned a lot and reconfirms my decision to act as Martin Luther and leave.
I know it must hurt to be shunned by your family😢
Reconfirms my decision to act as Martin Luther and leave the apostolic church founded by Christ. I'm sorry for you girl.
I do not know what you are going through but you are nothing like Martin Luther you are better.
@@Lerian_V Except......the RCC is not the apostolic church founded by Christ. Did you watch the video? The doctrines were added and added over time. ALL of the doctrines that split us are all LATE additions. like 300-400 + YEARS after the Biblical Canon was complete. Then the RCC even added to THAT. RCC = Mans flawed invented Christianity. Back to the original comment. She left the false RCC church. The RCC was never founded by Christ. If anything Christ stepped in and yanked his word from the RCC and now it is flourishing all over the world due to Protestants translating and spreading that word to every corner of the globe. Just as Jesus promised would happen. RCC? = Do not translate or read for yourself............... Protestants? = Translate as much as possible into every language as possible and read it ALL!! Yea.....Who is the church? Who continued the great commission? The Protestant church did.
Amen... Christ told us that we would be hated....and our enemies they of our own household. Stand strong. I was never Catholic but am hated for being a real Christian...🌷📖
Yep, we were both born Catholic, in fact, Ray was a Catholic monk for 13 months (prior to Vicki, obviously). Then he had his Luther moment and he was thrown out of the monastery for "questioning". Well, today we are happy Lutherans of the conservative WELS/ELS persuasion.
@Eucharist Angel You're setting up a Straw Man argument. We don't believe anything because Luther a Catholic priest said so. We believe it because JESUS said so. "This IS (est) My Body." "This IS (est) My Blood." HOW that happens, He did not say. Therefore, we believe in His Real Presence in the bread and wine. HOW this happens, we do not know. When Ray was in St. Francis Seminary near Milwaukee as a Cistercian monk, one of his teachers, another priest, said that, theoretically, if a priest said the Words of Institution while driving past a bakery, all the bread would become the Body of Christ. So much for the concept of transubstantiation. We care about the Doctrines of God - not man.
@eucharistangel4662 I don't think Luther added this to the gospel: Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven-not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”-John 6:53-58 (NKJV)
@@thomasweaver3405 You need to keep reading.
John 6:63, Berean Literal Bible:
It is the Spirit giving life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit and they are life.
In other words, Jesus was using metaphors, just like He used so many parables. I wouldn’t say Luther added to his gospel; he just failed to debride it of corrupt Catholic additions.
Galatians 3:3 English Standard Version
Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
I admire Luther for his journey. He recognized Paul’s message of grace alone through faith alone, but failed to apply it thoroughly to communion and baptism. It fell to a later generation to leave behind that Roman Catholic baggage.
The bit about taping the book shut, that's good humor.
It was never not wonky.
Hi Todd! I just stumbled upon your channel a couple weeks ago. I remember you from St James in W. St. Paul!! I grew up in that church! Did you? Chrisanne (Rebertus) Nahum.
Useful facts.
According to the Bible they have always been awry.
The Catholic church went wonky when it was established
So when Christ established his church is what you're saying
@@vincentterraneo263 COPE!!!!!
@Cowgirl Annie I keep hearing "when it was established" but when was that? There seems to be some narrative that the Catholic Church was just created one day and was somehow different from other Christians.
The fact is that this video shows ancient Christians were Catholic. Don't you find it interesting that he was showing Catholic teachings were around since at least the 3rd century but the earliest protestants didn't appear until the 15th. How is this not him basically admitting that his theology has no historical bases.
@Cowgirl Annie Orthodox don't claim that, The Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church were one church until the great schism in the 11th century. Both churches recognize the other as having legitimate apostolic secession.
Some Baptists say there have always been baptists since the start of Christianity but were oppressed by the Catholic Church. There is absolutely no proof of this. They either use the lack of evidence as proof of oppression or try to connect themselves to splinter groups such as Anabaptist which have no actual ties to them and infact disagree with them on core issues.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
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Bless you and thank you for this. Thank you.
Love this guy x
You are too funny.Keep up the good work.
Unfortunately, most mainstream protestant denominations have become even more unbiblical in beliefs.
Mainstream Protestantism are fruits of Jesuit infiltration
They're getting really comfortable with the groomers too.
Very true
Yes, I am seeing more and more false doctrines from both Catholics and Protestants.
Doesn't matter how bad protestantism gets,
In protestantism people are free to be right or wrong doctrinally.
The Catholic Church will eventually (ad we go back to the dark ages) confiscate Bibles from people for the sake of union.
Good video but it forgot to mention the papacy and the infallibility of the pope when he speaks ex cathedra
While yea, it’s kinda hard to really say though for one there’s been claims it’s been used only twice on those two later Marian dogmas but there’s also the issue of it not being properly defined until near immaculate conception time 1850s
There’s claims that it was always there but then you have catholic apologists saying that a pope can be immoral and heretic but that doesn’t invalidate the office
How much of what the pope teaches and represents matter is unclear to both Catholics and non Catholics alike that the doctrine of infallibility makes no sense (and it’s been used on two false doctrines)
@@duckymomo7935 not to mention that there’s no definite point that is laid out as to when the pope speaks Ex cathedra. The only reliable definition of ex cathedra seems to be “when the church likes what the pope has said then he’s spoken ex cathedra which is rather convenient.
thanks todd trendt added books
Amazing
I’m not Catholic but most of the dates provided are not accurate. In most of the things mentioned you can find much earlier that the dates given.
Your absolutely correct. Many doctrines weren’t defined until later but it doesn’t mean they weren’t there before. This is certainly the case of the Marian doctrines. Many of them were defined in the 1950s but the evidence of them before is overwhelming. The Assumption of Mary is a mystery in the rosary which predates 1950 by hundreds of years. You see The Assumption taught in Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy as well.
Thank you! I've been saying this. The vast majority of what he puts out are just straight-up historical inaccuracies. And he keeps making video after video with glaring errors.
This hurts so much. Every time Scripture after Scripture is placed right in front of the catholics I meet, I either see personal attacks and name calling, or - more often - these people will respond by saying, "We can't interpret the Scriptures on our own. Why don't you lean on the 2,000 years of human understanding in the 'one true church' since we're the only ones who commune with Peter?"
Honest question: how am I supposed to truly minister to those who have been cowed into the idea that they cannot read and understand the Word? This nihilistic notion of faith is disheartening.
Unfortunately, all those involved with cults are dug in like a tick. I have witnessed to Mormons for years, and it is next to impossible to communicate with Mormons, because many are born into the cult and have been inundated with lies and deception for a lifetime. Even those who read their Bible will only read the verses that support their church doctrines. It is the same with Catholics and Jehovah Witnesses. What do we do? We witness the truth of Scripture, do not argue, walk away, and let God do the rest.
Until one's heart is broken for what their sin cost the father and the son, there is no hope.
I keep this in mind:
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. Isaiah 55:11
It helps me to remember my former state:
For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Titus 3:3-7
I admire your speaking the truth. It pleases God that you do so. For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 1 Corinthians 1:21
Very informative!
Todd, I’d love to hear your take on Bart Barber and Brent Leatherwood and their hostility towards abortion abolitionists.
Simple. John 8:44.
I was born and brought up as RC. Now I am reformed.. Thanks be to our God who provided me wisdom and praying friends..
Reformed? As in God only saves the predestined and damns to Hell all other souls irregardless of their free will choice to believe in Him?
Calvin, Luther, King Henry....
Reformed theology is utterly unbiblical.
I'm an lcms Lutheran so I don't agree with calvinist theology, but I agree with much of your disagreements with the RCC.
@Philip Pizzo very excellent, I was looking for expository preaching and almost became reformed, but listening to Chris Rosebrough, Jordan Cooper, Bryan Wolfmueller and a few other Lutherans helped change my mind, not to mention the lcms church was closer to my house so I could look into them much more easily. After laboring over the Lutheran lord's supper doctrine for a while I finally accepted and now celebrate that christ is present in the elements, though the true nature of the substance is unknown and am made much better for it.
@Philip Pizzo Reformed do not believe in OSAS thank you.
@Philip Pizzo communion is not "merely symbolic", but definitely IS symbolic. Also, Yes, there is a real Presence. The question is the nature of the presence.
@@ThumbKnuckle pftt. heresy!
@@gigiis526 heresy? What do you mean by that?
Amen this is just what needed
Amen!
Thanks
Polite Leader has a few informative videos speaking on the adopting of these heresies by the Roman Catholics.
John MacArthur has several sermons too
You forgot *changed the 7th day Sabbath to the venerable day of the sun; about 300AD AND the adoption of pagan holidays; about 300AD.
Liar.
great teaching
amen
false teaching. not AMEN.
You tell them brother it's not just that but they need open your eyes amen
I would really like to hear your thoughts on the Shroud of Turin as a relic of the Resurrection.
Great video… Very concise with the dates on all these different topics.
This is very interesting 🤔
Todd, would you mind doing a video on Reformed Theology?
Thanks Todd. Good info.
I used to be Catholic. I gave that up.
Please do an audio version of _Judge __-Not-_ !
In response to the title question, pretty certain it was in the year 538 AD
I used to be a Protestant and believed the Church taught all the things you say it teaches. Thank God he lead me to the Catholic Church that Jesus established! I think there are quite a few things you misunderstand about Catholicism. If we believed a lot of the things you say we do, it would be heresy and I’d run as far away as fast as I can. If you’d like me to explain in more detail what you’re misunderstanding about Catholicism I’d be happy to do so. You listed quite a number of things and I don’t want to leave a small book here so pick a topic and I’d be happy to discuss it! I don’t know everything but I spent 8+ years studying Catholicism under the threat of excommunication from my Protestant church and was told I’d go to hell if I convert. So I wanted to make sure Catholicism was true before converting. I’ll continue praying for you and all of our Protestant brothers and sisters!
How can one claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ but continue to sacrifice Him at the altar daily through the Mass? Have you not read the Bible that Jesus's sacrifice is Once and for ALL?
Jesus came to do away with the Altar, why do you guys set it up again?
By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet. For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
- Hebrews 10:10-14
He doesn't want to hear from you.
I almost forgot I am still waiting for you to discuss with me the sacrifice of Jesus at the altar of the Mass. Do you have any answers for me? It's been two months.
@@veekee75 I did reply two months ago. If you have further questions or if I can clarify anything, I’d be happy to do so.
@@mattpoole7507 where is your reply? Can you copy and paste it here?
IMHO, the big moment of apostasy from Christ as Saviour was the Fourth Lateran Council 1215. This established officially Roman Catholicism with its position of salvation by its church sacraments and by its church priesthood. From this time onwards, Rome did not preach Jesus Christ's once-and-for-all sacrifice on the cross as the propitiation for sins. Rather, they taught that Christ's saving work was achieved through the sacraments and through the mediation of Catholic priests.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
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A much needed video!!!
It is full of historical falsehoods that a 2 sec. google search would show.
Everyone watching this video is going to die at some point and each of you will answer to God for every idle word spoken, deed done by your hands and the motivation behind it.
Now, the evidence for this is that even if you say you don't believe me, your conscience bears witness that I speak the truth and you know there is a creator to whom you will answer to one day. Are you ready? Your "good actions" you rely on are detestable to God, lest you try to negotiate your way into Heaven. Only by grace and through faith shall you receive salvation.
Seek Christ while you still can, only He can forgive your sins. Repent and be born again, of water and the Holy Spirit. I say this without judgement and in absolute love when I tell you that Jesus is the light of the world, in Him there is no darkness...
This isnt entirely historically accurate... Not a Roman Catholic myself but the development of each of these theologies is more complicated than is presented here. Certain particular aspects of Purgatory, for example, can be seen explained and believed in Origen, specifically his Homilies on Luke; this is the 3rd century. Transubstantiation is affirmed as early as the fourth century, check out Cyril of Jerusalem's Catechetical Lectures. More examples of this stuff can be given.
Again, not a Roman Catholic myself. But the development of some Roman Catholic teachings begins much earlier and in a more complicated sense than is presented in this video.
Unbiblical and your so-called developments became nothing more than a 3rd grade classroom game of "Pass the Story."
@@user-rg5vt9wi8q I'm not a Roman Catholic.
Respectfully speaking, you should be more gracious when you talk to people. Have a good day.
@@BartinButher I don't think so. Even Christ Himself laid it on the Pharisees pretty hard.
Yeah, the video is simplistic and twists history to fit a predetermined bias
Nice breakdown Todd👍
Great video as always
A video full of lies.
How come the other churches outside of Catholicism (Orthodox, Coptic, Armenian, Syriac) all went down the same path of elevating the status of Mary and the saints, transubstantiation, infant baptism, etc?
infant baptism is awesome!...But I am Reformed so there is that. It does not appear that those others have gone quite as far down the mariology rabbit hole as the RCC
It's almost as if it was the protestants that broke away from tradition and added wonky stuff
Because all Christians believed that before Protestants changed it lol
Because they know a lot more than the person making these videos does.
This video is full of historical and factual error.
@@cjgodley1776 amen.
Mike Gendron and his "Proclaiming the Gospel" website are excellent tools for witnessing to Catholics.
I love his “preparing for eternity” where he addresses questions posed by Catholics with verses from the Bible- God breathed truth. You can’t argue with that. He’s the Author.
Looking forward to his series on AGTV.
Why would anyone want to "witness" to Catholics ?
@@jerome2642 because we love them, because they are the mission field as we all once were/are?
@@gracepilditch9388 Here’s some objections to Protestantism then:
1. 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
So, there are verses hard to understand in Scripture, that they twist to their own destruction. Seems like the Protestant idea that the core parts of the faith remain intact and Protestants just have minor differences is false. It clearly says these verses that are hard to understand, if misunderstood, lead to destruction. Christ prayed for us to be One. Catholics have had one Teaching and Church for the last 2,000 years. And yet Protestants have many contradicting doctrines on the Bible and are splintered into many different denominations. They disagree on things like: once saved always saved, Baptismal Regeneration and when to Baptize, if and when divorce is allowed, if the New Testament Israel verses talk about the Church, Israel, or both, etc. So, simply put, Protestantism is a jumbled mess, how can anyone know the fullness of Faith in this mess? And Furthermore, how do you reconcile Peter saying no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of private interpretation? I mean yes, private interpretation is good, but you must submit to the teaching Authority, the Church, there’s a reason for the Church. Jesus Conferred upon the Apostles a Kingdom, a Visible, Structured Kingdom. Why did the man in Acts say he needed someone to teach him, and then an Apostle taught him?
Matthew 18:16-17
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
2. The Bible is a collection of Inspired Writings. How do we know what is Inspired and what isn’t? The Bible itself doesn’t tell us, there is no “Inspired Table of Contents”. The early Christians didn’t have or pass down a Canon. They disagreed on which Books were Inspired. Early Christian Writings far outnumber the Bible Books. How do we know some of the Books we have are Inspired too, from a Protestant viewpoint? How do you know if you have the right Old Testament Canon, with works like Enoch, or the DeuteroCanonicals, or even other Books? I don’t think scholarship is that good. The Catholic Church Compiled the Bible centuries after Christ’s Birth. Using the Authority Catholics believe the Church to have. This Canon was used for centuries and served as the basis for the Protestant Canon. And I don’t think the Protestants were divinely inspired, prots don’t believe that, Luther literally tried to remove Books like James. That would just be trusting some guy’s opinion. So if you reject the Authority of the Catholic Church, and the idea the Holy Spirit Protects Her from error, then what makes you say your Bible Canon is correct? And if you don’t have a Bible Canon, what does that leave you with? People coming up with their own ideas for the Canon, meaning the Bible, and the Deposit of Faith gets distorted to whatever you want. What can you rely on for a Bible Canon, your own opinion?
3. If sola scripture is true, why isn’t it found in the Bible? Why wasn’t it believed for centuries until the Protestant Reformation-era? The Bible does say to obey Tradition:
2 Thess 2:15
“So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.”
Why does the New Testament mention Jewish oral traditions not found in the Old Testament?
a. The reference to “He shall be called a Nazarene” cannot be found in the Old Testament, yet it was “spoken by the prophets” (Matt. 2:23). Therefore, this prophecy, which is considered to be “God’s word,” was passed down orally rather than through Scripture.
b. In Matthew 23:2-3, Jesus teaches that the scribes and Pharisees have a legitimate, binding authority based “on Moses’ seat,” but this phrase or idea cannot be found anywhere in the Old Testament. It is found in the (originally oral) Mishnah, which teaches a sort of “teaching succession” from Moses on down.
c. In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul refers to a rock that “followed” the Jews through the Sinai wilderness. The Old Testament says nothing about such miraculous movement. But rabbinic tradition does.
d. “As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses” (2 Tim. 3:8). These two men cannot be found in the related Old Testament passage (Ex. 7:8ff.) or anywhere else in the Old Testament.
Jesus did speak out against the traditions of men, but He didn’t say all tradition is bad, only that of men. Just like how there is Sound Doctrine and doctrines of men. This was said in a culture where everyone accepted Tradition. Also, if Jesus was saying Oral Tradition is false, the Pharisees could have pointed to the Torah and said Jesus was speaking orally, tradition, whenever He said something not in the Old Testament. Furthermore, Tradition is Transmitted and protected by the Church, St Paul even tells Timothy to entrust his traditions to trustworthy men, and Jesus gave the Church the Authority to bind and loose, and Promised that the gates of hades will not prevail against the Church. Furthermore, only a couple verses earlier Jesus seemingly confirmed the “seat of Moses” Tradition.
“Word” in Holy Scripture often refers to a proclaimed, oral teaching of prophets or apostles. What the prophets spoke was the word of God regardless of whether or not their utterances were recorded later as written Scripture. So for example, we read in Jeremiah:
“For twenty-three years . . . the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again . . . ‘But you did not listen to me,’ declares the Lord. . . . Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words. . . .’” (Jer. 25:3, 7-8 [NIV]).
This was the word of God even though some of it was not recorded in writing. It had equal authority as writing or proclamation-never-reduced-to-writing. This was true also of apostolic preaching. When the phrases “word of God” or “word of the Lord” appear in Acts and the epistles, they almost always refer to oral preaching, not to Scripture. For example:
“When you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God” (1 Thess. 2:13).
If we compare this passage with another, written to the same church, Paul appears to regard oral teaching and the word of God as synonymous:
“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6).
The Jews believed in Tradition, the Pharisees who Jesus and Paul said were mainstream Judiasm believed in Tradition, but not the Sadducees. The early Christians relied heavily upon Tradition, for many reasons, not having a Canon, Bible Writings being hard to come by, etc. And also the Book John 21:25 says:
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
There we see, that the Bible did not have room for everything Jesus did. It may be implicitly found in Scripture, but not explicitly. Furthermore, Tradition explains the Bible, like the Hadiths explain the Quran. What about vague verses? The Jews believed in an Oral Torah to explain vague verses. What if a dispute arises, also, and people need help interpret aging Scripture and Tradition? Maybe an Infallible Interpreter? And also, how did the Jews know about God before Moses Wrote the Torah?
4. How do you reconcile the fact that the unanimous testimony of the early Church, even people who knew the Apostles directly, wrote very Catholic. For this, I’d look up St Ignatius, Pope Clement 1, the Didache, Justin Martyr, the Letter of Barnabas, and the Shepard of Hermas. They write about Apostolic Succession, the Catholic Church, the Authority and Presidency of Rome (Peter states he is in Babylon, a.k.a Christian code name for Rome), and Bishops, priests, and deacons, as well as more. And some of these guys knew the Apostles directly, and some of these are the earliest Christian sources. How do you reconcile that? Historical evidence exactly against Protestantism. Where is the historical evidence of Protestantism existing beforehand? Did the whole Church fall away, despite Christ’s Promise about hell not prevailing against the Church? For centuries? That early on? The Christians in Rome, Catholic Saints, and Middle Ages Christians? Sounds like Mormonism if you say yes.
5. How do you reconcile things like the Book of James refuting faith alone, or the Letters of Peter saying Baptism saves us, or Jesus saying you must be Born Again of Water and Spirit, or the Bible verses about Peter and also Isaiah 20?
As a catholic, I couldn't agree more. The errors of the Church have piled up so enormously that there may seem there is no hope to bring that train back on the rails. It got so, so heavy... But there still are many of us who believe it's possible. This is why we're not protestants, but still call ourselves catholics, even though we are Bible-believing, new born Christians who see through the errors. We're the ones who made Catholic Church sign the Join Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification - a document that allows Catholics to firmly believe that we are saved by grace, apart of works, without being forced to leave the Catholic Church. We're the ones who forced the Catholic Church to publicly say that it is heretical to pray to Mary, because prayer is only due to God in Youcat (the new version of the Catechism for youth). We are the ones who push so harshly for the Catholic Church to be ecumenical, which is a code word for "more protestant-like". We know there's still much work to be done and that traditional wing of the Church is growing strong but... Don't give up hope. There's a billion Catholics out there. Vast majority of them will never leave, this is all they know and they don't even have any protestant churches they could go to if they wanted. They're all worth fighting for, and you can only do that from within the Church, not from the outside. Pray for us. Don't dismiss us, when we come up to you and ask for Ecumenism. What we really ask for is not for you to include us as we are, but to teach us. We really do mean that. Holy Spirit can do anything. Come, Holy Spirit! Renew Catholic Church.
God bless you and your efforts!
you have the pope that is the problem you dont have the holly spirit only in JESUS is salvation catholic church is unholy and destinated to fail., find A CHURCH EVANGELICAL SO YOUR SALVATION IS SECURE THRU CHRIST
Really I don’t think Yahusha said to follow religion but to follow him! Why must we classify ourselves with a religion! HalleluYah! Praise Yah in Yahusha’s mighty name!!
I've always firmly believes God has his children in various places for this very reason. God bless you're endeavors.
And what are some of the errors that you believe the church teaches? I am Catholic and would like to know.
Great stuff Todd! The more l learn 'bout Roman C ....then GLADDER l am to be Reformed!
Hello Theresa how are you doing today
@@stevenanthony9353 ~ Well! _GOD is IN CONTROL!_ Not me, or us, or Cyrus, or Trump, or ''Lets Go Joe'', or Pooh (Xi), or even John MacArthur. ....even.
@@theresa42213 That’s okay so where are you from? I’m from Dallas Texas
Now let's talk.
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@@WretchedNetworkWhat about Eastern Orthodox Church, are they better then Roman Catholics?
My former baptist pastor (NABC) told me that the counter reformation got some things right… !! It was during a meeting I had with him to discuss things I was concerned about, chiefly Spiritual formation and mysticism being taught… so I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised. Left that church after that :(
The NAbC hasn't been traditionally Baptist for a long time. And unfortunately the SBC seems to be heading in the same theologically liberal direction.
Trent got nothing right
@Amy Klassen that pastor was clearly a Jesuit 😂
From the beginning.
FLEE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH UNLESS YOU WANT TO START ANOTHER REFORMATION
Very good faith Todd Friel!
Hello Angel how are you doing today
Jesus is coming! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! I made this channel because I felt guilty for not witnessing enough, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!
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You ought to collaborate with Mr. B of Red Pen Logic. You both talk alike! But you are very enjoyable to watch. I first seen your vids a couple years ago!
How about the “change” of the Sabbath to Sunday? That was pure RCC, wasn’t it?
That's not the only problem. The days of the week are named after pagan deities , also the months of the year. Also the 365-day calendar is also a pagan calendar. The original hebrew calendar is 360 days - every few years another month is added but that's a different story.
@@bojo0o so how do we remember sabbath in pagan calendar? Just Saturday?
Jesus the man had a mother. Jesus the Christ has no mother, for God has no mother.
If you believe that Jesus is fully God and fully human then you must say that Mary is the Mother of God. Other wise you deny the trinity, become gnostic believing that God only used Jesus body as a vessel, or you become Nestorian saying that Jesus was only partially human and partially God.
@@peterhenryzepeda3484 Mary is not part Trinity so denying the divinity of Mary is not denying the Trinity. She is merely the creature that delivered God incarnate. You have no true conception of God. To say that God has a mother is pagan.
@@peterhenryzepeda3484 Marry was just a doorway to Earth. Jesus existed before He came to earth. You people are dense.
thats called the nestorian heresy.
@@VengefulPolititron show me that in the bible " mary is just the doorway",,,,
27. Transubstantiation, proclaimed by pope Innocent III....1215.
As a concept, transubstantiation can be traced back at least to Tertullian, who states "He took bread, offered it to His disciples and made it into His body by saying, 'This is My body'" (Against Marcion 212 AD); likewise Cyril of Jerusalem says "Once at Cana in Galilee by a mere nod He changed water into wine; should it now be incredible that He changes wine into blood?" (Catechetical Lectures [Mystagogic], 350 AD) [55].
As a term, transubstantiation was first used by the theologians Magister Roland about 1150, Stephen of Tournai about 1160, and Peter Comestor about 1170 [56]; this terminology was then used by the 1st Lateran Council in 1215, which is apparently where Boettner got his date from. As can be seen, however, Boettner is off by anywhere from 865 to 1003 years in the first instance, and anywhere from 45 to 65 years in the second.
[55] Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, pp 381-382.
[56] ibid., pg 379.👏👏
Can you recommend any books on the Heresies of the Roman Catholic church doctrine
Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaens, early 2nd century:
“they [heretics] will not admit that the Eucharist is the self- same body of our Savior Jesus Christ”
“The sole Eucharist, you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself or, some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as wherever Jesus Christ is present we have a Catholic Church.”
Vivat Christus Rex et Ave Maria!
When the the thief on the cross recognized Jesus for who He was and asked to remember him, Jesus told him he would be with Him in paradise today. No purgatory needed because Jesus death on the cross for our sins was enough!!!🙏🙏🙏
The catechism says the cup has the true Blood of Christ, but yet further down, it says it’s a bloodless sacrifice ! Ok , so which is it? Can’t be bloodless if the “true” blood is in the cup.
That's because you don't understand what the Catholic Church means by referring to the Mass as an UNBLOODY sacrifice. It is not because of the ABSENCE of the blood of Christ on the altar during the Mass (His Blood is really and truly present in the chalice under the form of wine). It because Jesus doesn't suffer and die again and again at every Mass but He offers Himself as a LIVING SACRIFICE to God through the hands of the priest under the form of bread and wine.
The word "bloody" or "shedding blood" means "death" (see 1 Chronicles 28:3)
It is Jesus's resurrected Body and Blood.
@@jerome2642it’s either bloodless or it’s not. And I understand perfectly. I was a eucharistic minister. Do you want the paragraph numbers so you can read it for yourself. And he is suffering. That was the point of his crucifixion. To suffer by taking onto himself , our punishment. Besides , Christ said it is finished.
@@cjgodley1776if it’s his Resurrected body, then there can’t be blood in the cup
@@doug1863 Yes. There can be. Resurrected Blood.
Can i have those,sir.
Eye opening as an ex catholic I didn't understand many of these things that we did and there are some thing I didn't even know they practice
And this video helps to dig you deeper in ignorance of what Catholics do. You might need to listen to Catholic Theologians explain the faith to you since you’ve now shown some interest in it.
Hoping you’re not listening to videos like this just for the purpose of bashing Catholics. If you do it for knowledge, then there you need to listen to Catholic theologians explain their belief and practices.
God bless you.
As a protestant, I've spent 4 years trying to fairly and accurately understand the fundamental teachings of historic Christianity, as well as Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
I highly recommend doing a deeper dive before making videos like this.
For example: They are not. Re-sacrificing. Jesus. On. the. Cross.
That statement is so incredibly inaccurate and frustrating to hear. Please take some time to listen to Catholic apologists on this issue before causing more unnecessary strife between the two sides of the Tiber.
There are enough legitimate concerns about their theology without adding false accusations and inflammatory statements into the mix.
Millions hate what they falsely think the Catholic church is....to be really steeped in history is to cease being Protestant.
Absolutely correct. I don't know how he researched for this but to get so many things wrong is really shocking.
Thank you for being a voice of reason in this sea of scornful comments.
@Cowgirl Annie we sure do. If you read John Chapter 6, Jesus could not be clearer about wanting us to eat his body and drink his blood even losing 72 disciples that day who couldn't handle this teaching. He was prepared to lose his 12 Apostles too the text says..
@Cowgirl Annie well Jesus isn't a magician 🙂 but this is his teaching. At the last supper after they had eaten the Passover meal, he says This is My Body, This Is my blood..Back in John chapter 6 he had said "Unless you eat My Body and drink My Blood you have no life within you." (John 6:53.) Science proves this too because there are over a hundred Church approved scientifically verified Eucharistic miracles. We certainly do not believe that Jesus is crucified at every Mass, rather that we are mysteriously transported back to Jesus sacrifice at Calvary and this is the eternal sacrifice is re-presented to the Father who of course exists outside of space and time.
Hey, what is a good resource for learning about church history?
Wretched's Drive By Church History? (Or did you know that already?) 😉
@@jessebryant9233 I did not, thanks brother. Ordering now. 💪🙏
@@MikeMak Mike, we hope that resource blesses you! Thanks so much for watching, and please feel free to share this video.
- Ethan from Wretched
@@MikeMak I'd recommend the early church fathers: Ignatius of Antioch, Ireneaus of Lyons, Justin Martyr, Clement of Rome etc. They are some of the earliest Christian writers after the New Testament. Once you start reading church history from the early sources, you will see that some of the things in this Wretched video are half truths and historical inaccuracies.
5:53 We orthodox don't have the "Assumption of Mary into Heaven".
If I was to choose...I would go with Orthodox over RCC.
Wretched, thank you for making this video! Please continue to make more!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is so helpful and to the point and will be a wonderful resource. About a month ago I submitted the question 'when did the Catholic Church become heretical?' to our pastors to answer in our Sunday night Q&A time. This subject has been on my mind bc we have Catholic family and I'm trying to understand them and be prepared for discussions if they arise. It's a very touchy subject so it doesn't really come up. Please pray with me that God would open a door to have discussions with them 🙏
Hi Brittany. I am a catholic and most all of what you’ve heard here is either false or necessary information has been omitted making the rest of the points inaccurate. If you’ve ever wanted to ask a catholic questions- I’ll do my best to respond to any you send my way.
IF you are really interested please don't use this video as a reference do much more study on your own if you really want to hear what Catholics believe there are many good resources Trent Horn and Jimmy Akins are a couple that try to explain things easily... Looks like you might be a young girl just looking at your pic...Lizzie answers doesn't always have the best theological researched answers but she is super fun and excited about her new found Catholic faith if you want a more fun youthful insight that is still pretty much on point.
I'll suggest watching Protestant to Catholic conversion stories on Coming Home Network. You can find them on youtube but they have a website also. If I were in your shoes, I will look for Protestant pastors who became Catholic because those are rather the tough cookies when it comes to convincing them to become Catholic, because it's not only that they are changing what have always believed, they are also losing their only means of livelihood! Imagine how hard such move would be on the families.
So I'll suggest Scott Hahn, Marcus Grodi, Douglas Beaumont, Steve Ray, Ulf Ekman, and many others.
I’ll advice that if you are really in search of the truth as a true child of God, so not use this video as a guide, because it would only plunge you more into the abyss of ignorance and hate.
If you truly want to understand what Catholics do, it’s better you ask Catholics or listen to Catholics explain what they do. If you come from a position of hate, dismissiveness or prejudice, you may never know the truth and remember Hosea 4:6 warned “my people perish for lack of knowledge”
Every church is going wonky.
I can't find a church that does church.
In Vancouver Canada. They all are getting wobbly
I'm in the timeout corner.
Jesus did warn us that we would be persecuted, rejoice! our reward is great in heaven!!! Proud Catholic here!
Wait! What? You're being persecuted? Here's someone with a disconnection with reality. Ever hear about the Inquisition? Geez, Shut-up already.