I think if the warriors offered Klay 3yrs/60mil it'd be more than fair. If he doesn't accept 20 mil a yr for 3 yrs then golden state could officially say they did EVERYTHING possible to keep him..
i don’t think the warriors have any problems giving him $20 a year, it’s that they don’t want his contract to extend to 3 years because they want him and curry’s contracts to end together so they can assess their future at that time.
@adamjhonson2194 Brooks and Brown are not offensive players....At one time, Klay was a great 2-way player; not so much anymore. And his offense is not there anymore. Klay should take the 2 year contract with plans on retiring at the end of those 2 years.
Fr the 2 problems last year is that the giddler couldnt shoot and killed their offense anytime he stepped on the court and that they basically didnt have a center
At the end of the day it all comes down to Steph. Their timeline is Steph’s timeline and they have to decide the best way to take and take advantage of a superstar before he is gone
That is true but as a Warriors fan. I think Steph body is starting to break down. Body can't hold up for 82 games and just like Bron. He needs a guy who can be a second option but can be a first option at times when Steph can't be there.
He is not that player, but he is the same guy. The decision here is if you offer the contract to the guy, you know you won't offer the contract to the player.
@@jmgpptt0 points in an elimination game. He's NOT the guy, the him or that player. If they don't trade him and get something good in return, they gonna get humiliated by the Kings again.
He got a max that front office knew he wouldn’t be playing on for a year at least. If he’s just about the money then they should let him go. He’s not worth it. If he wants to do something new then they should let him go.
Klay got offered a max when he was injured wht are we talking about … I get it trynna secure ur future but it’s like the organization showed their gratitude already and the way he carried himself last season was bad .he was always pouting and aside from inconsistent performance he was acting like a child.I thank him for ll he’s done but respectfully dnt bring him back 😂.he is not gonna wanna continue coming off the bench .What makes it worse is he can be the next 6moty for sure but he’s not accepting that he’s not the same person so why should we .
As a warriors fan. Heart to Heart we want klay back but we know w him there the team will never grow w our young players. Moody and Podz won't come to their own w him there. Whether he stays or not i will live w it. Will always love klay . Had to be there between 2013-2019 . Got that love for klay
You're too emotionally into this sports thing. There is no "heart to heart we want him back" with me. He's not a good player anymore. The best thing would be for him to be gone no matter what.
@@michaelg.2515he literally left because Jordan retired because Phil Jackson was being let go after that season. Scottie was looking for a massive pay out, not dissimilar to klay. Barkley posits pippens pissy attitude at the time despite being past his prime. Scottie always thought he was THAT guy 😂
Klay is the one making it uncomfortable. If there's anything we learn this past season is that he is a diva. He needs to understand and accept reality of everything instead of just saying it. He's not a 2 way player, or all star sg anymore. He's just a good person to bring off the bench. Often this man is shooting the warriors out of games. As a warriors fan I would love to see all 3 retired together. But it seems like that may not be the case anymore
Hard agree. He needs to accept something close to a role player's contract to get some more talent around the team. This gives him the best chance of winning one more ring instead of hopping to Sacramento or wherever else. Also, he can still get a bag after his playing years. Especially if he ends it with the big 3 and in a city that loves him. If he hops on a team that doesn't contend the next few years, he'll fade into existence and there's nothing worth marketing there. Idk why it seems like he's too focused on "right now" and acting like, what you said, a diva. Those 4 rings got to his head and cut off the blood supply in his brain.
I'm beginning to dislike klay and Draymond!! Draymond thinking he's the smartest person in the world attitude and Klay acting like a Diva. I'm ok with trading Klay!! Draymond has helped win 4 rings but has also cost us 2 rings!! If Draymond does 1 more crazy thing, he'll be out the League, unfortunately I don't see Draymond containing himself!!
@@welder9163 Steph is also a big part of the Warrior's problems. Eating up all the salary cap space with his $55 million per year contract. If Curry and Klay both put their egos aside and accepted more team-friendly contracts, they could keep the veteran core of Curry, Klay, and Draymond together and have enough money to surround them with the talent necessary to be contenders again.
Agreed. We the fans gave Allen Iverson so much crap for not accepting a bench role. We called him selfish and arrogant and delusional, but somehow Klay is Teflon because he's a fan favorite.
@@alexanderhenry9133 you're not necessary wrong but curry is still a top nba player in this league and he took a big paycut back then despite having great success in the early years which then allowed Durant to be signed. Dray has always took paycut to stay in gsw. Klay is the only one who's never sacrificed at all. I think curry is justifiable.
I think Orlando should look for a point guard that can score and facilitate. I think if that problem is solved, it’ll help Orlando become a better 3-point shooting team.
I think we should keep the ball in Paolo and Franz hand, klay would be great off ball with Franz and Paolo setting him up. Let's be honest Orlando has way more rim pressure than gs could ever have
Yes Tyus Jones doesn't get anyone excited but he could be a valuable player for just stabilizing the lineup and not having to wonder who will start game to game.
Orlando needs shooting pretty bad as well. I have been feeling like they would be the top team to really make a strong move for Klay Thompson. The problem with Klay Thompson is that he doesn't seem to realize that he's not game 6 Klay anymore. I know he was mostly okay with coming off the bench but I don't think it was a smooth thing for Golden State. His numbers just get worse and worse and it would be foolish if they offered him more than 2 years. I know that Golden State still thinks they're in win now territory but they probably realistically aren't making a run for the title with the aging guys from their past and a bunch of young players who need to get more floor time. They're becoming one of those teams stuck in the middle.😊
You're exactly right. Magic could offer Klay a reasonable 2-year deal. He's not as good as Donte Divincenzo now, and Warriors refused to pay Donte 12 million a year -- so he signed with the Knicks. Klay looked awful in their biggest game of the year and he's never been a good rebounder, ball handler or passer. He was a great defender but not so much now.
@@randygraham926 if he wanted a 2-year deal he would just stay with the Warriors. Klay Thompson is looking for a three or four year deal. That's the divide between him and Golden State.
He wants a long term contract because his market might not be there in 2 seasons ? It’s already gone, bro is cooked, it’s time for veteran minimum bub, you’re done
@@willjensen5595 high impact player ? Come on bro, he doesn’t defend anymore and can’t shoot anymore, he’s a shadow of himself, I think you underestimate how washed he is cause you’re a splash brothers fan, but it’s time to face the truth, warriors dynasty is done, and klay is cooked
@@mathieumalecki6332He averaged .387 3PFG% and had a career high from the free throw line. If he was a bit more accurate he would’ve been 50-40-90, one of his closest years. His defense is significantly worse than his prime, but he’s not an awful defender. All people remember is 0-10 in the play in.
Why do so many people think that Klay Thompson had such a terrible season last year? He shot 39% from 3 and played in 77 games. Did he have a lot of games in the season where he shot terrible? Yes he did have a lot of games where he shot terrible, and no it wasn't like he was the Klay Thompson from 5 years ago but he was still very good. If a team adds him as a 3rd option on a three year contract I don't really see what the downside would be. Klay Thompson as a third option where he doesn't have a lot of responsibilities, but all he has to do is just catch and shoot like on the Sixers would be very dangerous. A sleeper team that no one is probably thinking about as well for Klay Thompson would be the Dallas Mavericks. Imagine Luka Doncic feeding Klay Thompson in the corner with Kyrie Irving. That would be a scary big three and you wouldn't be able to stop them.
@@smoothsavage2870 Seriously like if you have Klay Thompson on your team as a 3rd option he is one of the best 3rd options in the league and if the only thing that he has to focus on is making shots i'll trust him to make his shots more than at least half of the league. I'm a Sixers fan and I would love Klay Thompson as a third option.
U only talked about Klay 3pt shooting, which dropped and which means he useless outside of that fg horrible, he dont play make or rebound, can't create his own shot, and his defense not the same he rarely could hit 20 pts last year the exact reason he avg 17pts one of his lowest his stats wasnt impressive in his prime 22pts so looking casually look like he hast fell off but that's why stat lines don't tell the full story and I'm a gsw fan who ever get him will find out sooner than later
As a Warriors fan, I think it's best for both the Warriors and Klay to go their separate ways. I just hope the relationship doesn't sour too much and the Dubs retire his number one day!
no matter what happens Klay Thompson will get a retired number in warriors stadium. I'm a bulls fan but I want those three to stay together on warriors until their retirement. (Maybe Green will go to another team at some point)
@@viciouslyeatingaburger Yeah, that would be ideal, but with the salaries, caps, and everything today, it's neqrly impossible to keep a player their entire career, let alone multiple players. The Dubs will def want to retire his number - and he 100% deserves that! - but just hope if Klay leaves, he doesn't sour on the Dubs so much that he doesn't want anything to do with the team.
After next year he will be like 14 3 and 1.5 and 1.2 combined blocks and steals a game....people are overrating how many years and how much he should get....
Make no mistake: if Klay leaves the warriors, it's for one reason alone: the extremely punitive luxury tax penalties that were put in the CBA agreed to last summer. Many of those restrictions were put in place specifically for the warriors. The 2nd apron penalties are draconian, and paying Steph, Klay and Draymond $100 million combined the next two seasons means the warriors are not winning anything. Klay is not what he once was. Moses Moody is the best SG on the team, and he needs to play as much as possible as quickly as possible. That being said, if Klay gets more money and more years someplace else, I wish him luck. I don't think it's going to happen, I still think 90% chance he re-signs with the warriors.
He’s not worth that kind of money any longer. Especially since he’s nowhere near the defensive player he was. It has nothing to do with the CBA. He is the reason meyers quit. He didn’t want to have to tell Klay no.
@@bwanimations7130 In NBA free agency, it's not how much you're worth, it's how much you can convince someone to pay. Remember: the reason the warriors do not have a first round pick in next week's draft is because Andre Iguodala flirted with Houston and several other teams as a free agent, which scared Lacob into offering Iguodala an extra year on his contract. The extra year had to be salary dumped in the summer of 2019 at the cost of the 2024 first round pick. Klay and his agent are no less sharp than Iguodala was. Klay has value to the warriors. There is value in keeping the big 3 together and in them all retiring never having played for another team. There is value to the fans in that, there is value in being able to sell merch with the big 3 from now to the end of time and no other team ever being able to sell a Klay Thompson jersey. The fans would be heart-broken if Klay left, and unhappy fans can lead to declining engagement and ticket sales and merch sales. Those same value parameters are how Draymond Green managed to leverage a gigantic overpay by the warriors one offseason ago. Draymond hasn't been a $25 million a year player for several years now, but he got the contract because of his closeness with Steph and how much the fans love him. You always overpay for talent in free agency, if Philly or Orlando believes Klay Thompson's skill set can take them to a new level, they'll offer him more than he is objectively "worth".
@@SuperSupersoda the financials are what bother me with sports, especially basketball. It would be great if he retired a Warrior but if they re-sign him we can safely count them out as contenders until the the big 3 retire. all this overpaying for players is at the cost of the fan base. More expensive to experience a game. Difficulty even being able to watch on tv. In 10 years where 90% of the shots will be threes will ruin the game.
@@bwanimations7130 I think the warrior's front office has already committed to a 2 year farewell tour for the big 3, that's why the team is not willing to add a third year to their offer. They want to move on, and get back to winning, but they have to contend with a very simple fact: the fan base doesn't necessarily want to win, they want to win another ring for the big 3 in general and Steph in particular. If you are paying Steph, Draymond and Klay over $100 million a year, there is no pathway to being a team that gets past the second round of the playoffs, absolute best case scenario. the fanbase is still delusional with the 2022 title; the warriors have missed the playoffs 3 of the last 5 seasons, the 2022 title was a last gasp miracle where everything worked out perfectly. Missing the playoffs altogether is this team's true level right now. Remember one other key thing: Joe Lacob does NOT own a majority stake in the franchise, he owns a plurality stake in the franchise. This means, unlike the overwhelming majority of other owners, Joe Lacob is vulnerable to a coup d'état attempt. If enough of the minority owners band together and push a vote of no-confidence in Lacob's leadership, they can remove him as owner. He can be outvoted. The reason why there is no chance of that happening is that Lacob might spend a ton of money, but the franchise value has exploded under his leadership, and exploding franchise value is what the minority owners care about. Winning or losing games, or championships, is not why most people own pro sprots teams, they own them to make money. Joe Lacob has a unique incentive to keep the fans happy, keep the merchandise sales strong and to keep Chase Center full every night. I'm guessing the minority owners want to keep the fans happy, and to make money, which means keeping Klay.
Morey stated he wanted a wing so its between LBJ (unlikely), PG13 (likely but depending on LAC offer), Jimmy Butler (most likely but depends on how many years Sixers are willing to offer).
These players today, live off social media so much, they forget about reality. He must've forget time is real, and his time is up. No team will pick him for less than 2 yrs. He's not risking youth for age at this point, that injury was too much for him, and he needs to accept that.
Yeah, they didn't learn the lesson from the past few champions. Chasing stars won't help them win unless they all take a pay cut because having depth is key right now.
@@BaithNaThe Celtics literally have 4 all star caliber players in their starting lineup. That's the part y'all keep skipping over. What works for one team doesn't always work for another.
OKC and Magic make a lot of sense for Klay in terms of impact on the floor. 76ers have too many question marks on roster before considering whether Embiid can get into a good playing weight or stay health.
No team is going to give Klay more than two years, and Monk has shown that $17-20mil per season is about the ceiling. Teams have money, but it doesn't mean they want to spend it because of their desire to be under the aprons. The Warriors are doing the right thing by letting Klay find out that the market isn't there.
2 years 30m max. Or 3 years 30m max, hope for a ring. The warriors need to build, not pay dividends for past rings. Klay's injury took his mojo out. For years, he was paid to rest. It's time to get real.
Nobody talking about the fact that he owes the majority of his reputation to curry, stephs movement and draw of defenders has always got Klay the best looks, he won’t find that anywhere else and he’s already fell off. He’ll get paid but in all reality he’s done either way
As an OKC fan, why the hell would we want a washed up Klay? We have plenty of shooters that are much more younger and versatile. Just because we have the assets and cap space doesnt mean any player that wants a max money is going to be signed by the team. OKC doesnt operate that way. Plus we still remember what he did to us in 2016. So hell no GS or other team can keep him
it's better for him to stay in Warriors with Steph until their retirement! Like Kobe and others like him who stayed for their team. It hits different when you are one of those players who just in one team throughout all of your career and achievements that you made with that single team who drafted you even if it was in a trade draft swap scenario.
5 1sts and 5 2nds, not necessarily all the ones from OKC going to Milwaukee. In this trade they can accept up to 31 more million minus the 3m slot for the #12 pick if applicable I believe.
Tyler Herro can fit actually if Milwaukee wanted to forward the #12 to Miami, Miami might do that straight with no 2nds for the salary purposes. This would leave Milwaukee with Herro, Dort, Dieng, 4 1sts and 5 2nds for Giannis no one's beating that
Bring Klay to the the spurs. So he can teach the young guys hard work and how to shoot. He probably not ready to do that yet but id pick up that jersey real quick.
The question for me is how much do teams want to pay Klay in 3-5 years? The answer I'd give is not a damn dollar lol. 60 for 2 years sounds about right.
No way I'd pay him a big long term contract. Kick rocks buddy. You don't get paid for what you did years ago, already been paid 100 times over for that.
What is golden states goal for the future though? Like they’re obviously not a championship contender but like its not like they’ll be bad because they still have steph on the roster.
Honestly they need to shed payroll, too many players making greatly and I am sorry, but if you have a top 5 payroll, getting smeared by the Kings in the play in is not good or acceptable… o also hope they are looking for their next head coach too
The warriors have enough young talent to start a rebuild, however with Steph there they are essentially in always win now situation. Even with kuminga breaking out and the other rookies showing flashes realistically it’ll take them 2 years to get good enough to even think about a title. While they are not gonna do it the best interest would be to either trade most of their young talent and klay, get a solid team around curry and commit to one last time, or call it quits and let klay Steph and dray go and commit to the younger players. Them trying to do both rebuild and compete is what made their season end the way it did.
Obviously Milwaukee could convert those 2nds soon. If they are 5 2029 2nds New York might give them the #23 and #24 (maybe Knicks get a player or expand the trade)Milwaukee would have 3 1sts in a row this year with 4 more 1sts coming
As a thunder fan, I would disagree that getting Klay is something to look into tbh. While he would fit into the team, we already have players that are younger with similar skillsets so it would take up space for their development. More importantly, Klay is a mold of player that we just don't need as much. We really need a back up big for when Chet isn't on the floor like Kelly Olynyk or somebody else so if we do make a move like him, then we probably won't have as much as Klay may want since I believe that he is looking more towards money than another ring.
Somebody is gunna pay klay regret it 😂🤦🏾♂️Orlando/kings/mavs/lakers is the only teams I see willing to pay him & be on a winning team he prolly can get a decent pay but short term contract
The Klay slander has gotten out of hand. His shooting splits are still good and he can fit anywhere to give a team championship experience and 24-30 minutes a night.
Yes, as long as he's not demanding too much money he could help the Magic or even the Warriors. But I thought they were crazy to offer him 24 million a year and he turned it down a year ago.
i dont think the problem is his shooting splits but rather his consistency. as much as he kept the warriors afloat in games he also shot them out of games...especially the last one
The Sixers are not going to wait for PG and aren't interested in Klay. And if we punt on trading for Ingram, then we will go the bargain hunting for good role players, while preserving 4 first round pics for a post Dec 15 trade. For the big shooting guard, I'd rather have the younger Hield at 12 M than aging Klay at 25 M. Klay seems to be high maintenance and he wouldn't work well with a Joel/Maxey led team. ORL will probably be going with KCP as 1st option, but if DEN matches, could switch to offering Klay 3 yrs.
Steph deserves to get another star in Golden State and give him a serious shot for another ring for what he has done. They shouldn't give a shi about their future and focus on building around Steph last good years.
Nice and balanced 2-3-4 for the roster of a 1st round level franchise these days anyway 😅 in the big picture it's like the team's getting a few 1sts for free 😏😏
Warriors! Get a big... Give steph a big man! There r many available this time. Get a big man for step🙏 if steph had a guy like steven Adams, he'll have eight rings by now.
Malik Monk on a similar tier as Klay Thompson? Hell no, Monk is a much more dynamic player, a good playmaker, a great shotmaker and a clutch scorer. He might not be a good defender, but Klay isn't either. I'm willling to think Klay will provide some good shooting and spacing to certain teams, but he is not on the same level as Monk.
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I think if the warriors offered Klay 3yrs/60mil it'd be more than fair. If he doesn't accept 20 mil a yr for 3 yrs then golden state could officially say they did EVERYTHING possible to keep him..
i don’t think the warriors have any problems giving him $20 a year, it’s that they don’t want his contract to extend to 3 years because they want him and curry’s contracts to end together so they can assess their future at that time.
i think he could get a lot more than 20 mil that isn’t that big of a contract anymore. i believe dillon brooks and bruce brown make that much
@@adamjhonson2194he rly aint even worth it like that so 20m or nothing even 20m is a lot
@adamjhonson2194 Brooks and Brown are not offensive players....At one time, Klay was a great 2-way player; not so much anymore. And his offense is not there anymore. Klay should take the 2 year contract with plans on retiring at the end of those 2 years.
@@zeflixy9814he worth 30
OKC doesn’t need Klay, they’re already solid from the perimeter. Their priority should be finding an interchangeable 4/5 guy to pair up with Holmgren.
Especially since they traded for Caruso. They need an actual big for playoff matchup purposes
OKC looking scarier and scarier
if the thunder just get another big that can shoot they are set up
Fr the 2 problems last year is that the giddler couldnt shoot and killed their offense anytime he stepped on the court and that they basically didnt have a center
I can't imagine why this guy thinks the Thunder need or want Klay. He wouldn't start for OKC. We need rebounding, someone like Valanciunas
At the end of the day it all comes down to Steph. Their timeline is Steph’s timeline and they have to decide the best way to take and take advantage of a superstar before he is gone
That is true but as a Warriors fan. I think Steph body is starting to break down. Body can't hold up for 82 games and just like Bron. He needs a guy who can be a second option but can be a first option at times when Steph can't be there.
@@javierlandaverde4108 yup. theirs a reason why 21 Steph preformed so much better then 24 Steph
That superstar was gone already.
@@thicybriky21 Steph was one of the best versions of Steph I’ve ever seen
@@danielli9167jordan Poole ?
There is present day Klay & past Klay. Most people only have past Klay fixed in their minds. He’s not that guy anymore.
He is not that player, but he is the same guy. The decision here is if you offer the contract to the guy, you know you won't offer the contract to the player.
@@jmgpptt0 points in an elimination game. He's NOT the guy, the him or that player. If they don't trade him and get something good in return, they gonna get humiliated by the Kings again.
He got a max that front office knew he wouldn’t be playing on for a year at least.
If he’s just about the money then they should let him go. He’s not worth it.
If he wants to do something new then they should let him go.
He not far from that guy still top 3 shooter and above average defender
Klay got offered a max when he was injured wht are we talking about … I get it trynna secure ur future but it’s like the organization showed their gratitude already and the way he carried himself last season was bad .he was always pouting and aside from inconsistent performance he was acting like a child.I thank him for ll he’s done but respectfully dnt bring him back 😂.he is not gonna wanna continue coming off the bench .What makes it worse is he can be the next 6moty for sure but he’s not accepting that he’s not the same person so why should we .
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If they were going to sign him they would have done so by now. This is not a hot take.
As a warriors fan. Heart to Heart we want klay back but we know w him there the team will never grow w our young players. Moody and Podz won't come to their own w him there. Whether he stays or not i will live w it. Will always love klay . Had to be there between 2013-2019 . Got that love for klay
You're too emotionally into this sports thing. There is no "heart to heart we want him back" with me. He's not a good player anymore. The best thing would be for him to be gone no matter what.
@@username-hs3pcand wiggins
Klay in orlando shooting 14 3s mainly catch and shoot a night would be crazy
14? Lol
He'd be the best player on the team and shoot a bunch of contested long 2s to try to prove that he's the best on the team
@@MrE_best player on the team as if Paulo doesn’t exist
If it any coach beyond Steve kerr klay wouldn't have been a starter last season he would have been coming off the bench
@@MrE_The best player? How? He never could do anything besides shoot. And he's not even the shooter he was in his prime.
Most players who do 12-13 years in NBA tend to jump teams before retirement
Not players with 4 rings already
@@jimmyjay689 Scottie Pipmeister begs to differ.
@@hbk2221 I mean he didn't really jump teams, 1 season in Houston, 4 in Toronto, and a final season in Chicago.
@@jimmyjay689 Tony Parker
@@michaelg.2515he literally left because Jordan retired because Phil Jackson was being let go after that season. Scottie was looking for a massive pay out, not dissimilar to klay. Barkley posits pippens pissy attitude at the time despite being past his prime. Scottie always thought he was THAT guy 😂
Just because we can afford him doesn’t mean we need to get him. There’s no chance OKC spends their money on Klay
okc will spend money on klay if he is on minimum
Thunder need some size and rebounding ... they have shooting and a good defense. Klay is a lousy rebounder.
Klay will be a great 6th man on a contender, but anywhere he’d be a starter would waste everyone’s time
Klay is the one making it uncomfortable. If there's anything we learn this past season is that he is a diva. He needs to understand and accept reality of everything instead of just saying it. He's not a 2 way player, or all star sg anymore. He's just a good person to bring off the bench. Often this man is shooting the warriors out of games. As a warriors fan I would love to see all 3 retired together. But it seems like that may not be the case anymore
Hard agree. He needs to accept something close to a role player's contract to get some more talent around the team. This gives him the best chance of winning one more ring instead of hopping to Sacramento or wherever else.
Also, he can still get a bag after his playing years. Especially if he ends it with the big 3 and in a city that loves him. If he hops on a team that doesn't contend the next few years, he'll fade into existence and there's nothing worth marketing there.
Idk why it seems like he's too focused on "right now" and acting like, what you said, a diva. Those 4 rings got to his head and cut off the blood supply in his brain.
I'm beginning to dislike klay and Draymond!! Draymond thinking he's the smartest person in the world attitude and Klay acting like a Diva. I'm ok with trading Klay!! Draymond has helped win 4 rings but has also cost us 2 rings!! If Draymond does 1 more crazy thing, he'll be out the League, unfortunately I don't see Draymond containing himself!!
@@welder9163 Steph is also a big part of the Warrior's problems. Eating up all the salary cap space with his $55 million per year contract. If Curry and Klay both put their egos aside and accepted more team-friendly contracts, they could keep the veteran core of Curry, Klay, and Draymond together and have enough money to surround them with the talent necessary to be contenders again.
Agreed. We the fans gave Allen Iverson so much crap for not accepting a bench role. We called him selfish and arrogant and delusional, but somehow Klay is Teflon because he's a fan favorite.
@@alexanderhenry9133 you're not necessary wrong but curry is still a top nba player in this league and he took a big paycut back then despite having great success in the early years which then allowed Durant to be signed. Dray has always took paycut to stay in gsw. Klay is the only one who's never sacrificed at all. I think curry is justifiable.
I think Orlando should look for a point guard that can score and facilitate. I think if that problem is solved, it’ll help Orlando become a better 3-point shooting team.
I think we should keep the ball in Paolo and Franz hand, klay would be great off ball with Franz and Paolo setting him up. Let's be honest Orlando has way more rim pressure than gs could ever have
Yes Tyus Jones doesn't get anyone excited but he could be a valuable player for just stabilizing the lineup and not having to wonder who will start game to game.
AB is our PG we need shooting and getting one of the best in history will transform our team
@@YourWorstNightmare3333 Klays knee is 57 years old.
As a Warriors fan we should be done with Klay I don’t want him back we need to do something else next season
Orlando needs shooting pretty bad as well. I have been feeling like they would be the top team to really make a strong move for Klay Thompson. The problem with Klay Thompson is that he doesn't seem to realize that he's not game 6 Klay anymore. I know he was mostly okay with coming off the bench but I don't think it was a smooth thing for Golden State. His numbers just get worse and worse and it would be foolish if they offered him more than 2 years. I know that Golden State still thinks they're in win now territory but they probably realistically aren't making a run for the title with the aging guys from their past and a bunch of young players who need to get more floor time. They're becoming one of those teams stuck in the middle.😊
You're exactly right. Magic could offer Klay a reasonable 2-year deal. He's not as good as Donte Divincenzo now, and Warriors refused to pay Donte 12 million a year -- so he signed with the Knicks. Klay looked awful in their biggest game of the year and he's never been a good rebounder, ball handler or passer. He was a great defender but not so much now.
@@randygraham926 if he wanted a 2-year deal he would just stay with the Warriors. Klay Thompson is looking for a three or four year deal. That's the divide between him and Golden State.
He wants a long term contract because his market might not be there in 2 seasons ? It’s already gone, bro is cooked, it’s time for veteran minimum bub, you’re done
That's exactly why he would want to get his bag before he's done-done
People overestimate how washed Klay is. I watched almost every warriors game this past season and he was a high-impact player.
@@willjensen5595 high impact player ? Come on bro, he doesn’t defend anymore and can’t shoot anymore, he’s a shadow of himself, I think you underestimate how washed he is cause you’re a splash brothers fan, but it’s time to face the truth, warriors dynasty is done, and klay is cooked
@@mathieumalecki6332He averaged .387 3PFG% and had a career high from the free throw line. If he was a bit more accurate he would’ve been 50-40-90, one of his closest years. His defense is significantly worse than his prime, but he’s not an awful defender. All people remember is 0-10 in the play in.
@@keatonott86340-10 and him getting benched during the regular season.
The moving screens always help 😅
Why do so many people think that Klay Thompson had such a terrible season last year? He shot 39% from 3 and played in 77 games. Did he have a lot of games in the season where he shot terrible? Yes he did have a lot of games where he shot terrible, and no it wasn't like he was the Klay Thompson from 5 years ago but he was still very good. If a team adds him as a 3rd option on a three year contract I don't really see what the downside would be. Klay Thompson as a third option where he doesn't have a lot of responsibilities, but all he has to do is just catch and shoot like on the Sixers would be very dangerous. A sleeper team that no one is probably thinking about as well for Klay Thompson would be the Dallas Mavericks. Imagine Luka Doncic feeding Klay Thompson in the corner with Kyrie Irving. That would be a scary big three and you wouldn't be able to stop them.
And Mark Cuban may see the value that everybody else doesn't. It's crazy the way people talk about Klay like he's a throwaway now smh.
@@smoothsavage2870 Seriously like if you have Klay Thompson on your team as a 3rd option he is one of the best 3rd options in the league and if the only thing that he has to focus on is making shots i'll trust him to make his shots more than at least half of the league. I'm a Sixers fan and I would love Klay Thompson as a third option.
U only talked about Klay 3pt shooting, which dropped and which means he useless outside of that fg horrible, he dont play make or rebound, can't create his own shot, and his defense not the same he rarely could hit 20 pts last year the exact reason he avg 17pts one of his lowest his stats wasnt impressive in his prime 22pts so looking casually look like he hast fell off but that's why stat lines don't tell the full story and I'm a gsw fan who ever get him will find out sooner than later
@@jabarwright4333 a third option can not have a second option contract
He was inconsistent though. He often shot the Warriors out of games.
As a Warriors fan, I think it's best for both the Warriors and Klay to go their separate ways. I just hope the relationship doesn't sour too much and the Dubs retire his number one day!
no matter what happens Klay Thompson will get a retired number in warriors stadium. I'm a bulls fan but I want those three to stay together on warriors until their retirement. (Maybe Green will go to another team at some point)
@@viciouslyeatingaburger Yeah, that would be ideal, but with the salaries, caps, and everything today, it's neqrly impossible to keep a player their entire career, let alone multiple players. The Dubs will def want to retire his number - and he 100% deserves that! - but just hope if Klay leaves, he doesn't sour on the Dubs so much that he doesn't want anything to do with the team.
Honestly feels like the guy never recovered from the ACL tear
Or the Achilles tear that cost him a second season… he wants to be paid based on 2019 and before … Father Time is undefeated
@@andu1854he has 1 loss
He's going to be 35 before the playoffs start. Two catastrophic injuries. Is that someone you really want to invest in?
After next year he will be like 14 3 and 1.5 and 1.2 combined blocks and steals a game....people are overrating how many years and how much he should get....
Of course not! Klay needs to report to the Shanghai Sharks 😂
Yes it’s a short term deal
Klay would look great everywhere. On a vet min.
🙏 Klay mercenary arc like Ray Allen to Miami
Ray was older but still
no one wants to see klay in another jersey anymore than we wanted to see tony parker put on a hornets jersey.
That crazy I expected gaymond to be traded WTF
Have a rad day, Tuck
Make no mistake: if Klay leaves the warriors, it's for one reason alone: the extremely punitive luxury tax penalties that were put in the CBA agreed to last summer. Many of those restrictions were put in place specifically for the warriors. The 2nd apron penalties are draconian, and paying Steph, Klay and Draymond $100 million combined the next two seasons means the warriors are not winning anything. Klay is not what he once was. Moses Moody is the best SG on the team, and he needs to play as much as possible as quickly as possible. That being said, if Klay gets more money and more years someplace else, I wish him luck. I don't think it's going to happen, I still think 90% chance he re-signs with the warriors.
He’s not worth that kind of money any longer. Especially since he’s nowhere near the defensive player he was. It has nothing to do with the CBA. He is the reason meyers quit. He didn’t want to have to tell Klay no.
@@bwanimations7130 In NBA free agency, it's not how much you're worth, it's how much you can convince someone to pay. Remember: the reason the warriors do not have a first round pick in next week's draft is because Andre Iguodala flirted with Houston and several other teams as a free agent, which scared Lacob into offering Iguodala an extra year on his contract. The extra year had to be salary dumped in the summer of 2019 at the cost of the 2024 first round pick. Klay and his agent are no less sharp than Iguodala was.
Klay has value to the warriors. There is value in keeping the big 3 together and in them all retiring never having played for another team. There is value to the fans in that, there is value in being able to sell merch with the big 3 from now to the end of time and no other team ever being able to sell a Klay Thompson jersey. The fans would be heart-broken if Klay left, and unhappy fans can lead to declining engagement and ticket sales and merch sales. Those same value parameters are how Draymond Green managed to leverage a gigantic overpay by the warriors one offseason ago. Draymond hasn't been a $25 million a year player for several years now, but he got the contract because of his closeness with Steph and how much the fans love him.
You always overpay for talent in free agency, if Philly or Orlando believes Klay Thompson's skill set can take them to a new level, they'll offer him more than he is objectively "worth".
@@SuperSupersoda the financials are what bother me with sports, especially basketball. It would be great if he retired a Warrior but if they re-sign him we can safely count them out as contenders until the the big 3 retire. all this overpaying for players is at the cost of the fan base. More expensive to experience a game. Difficulty even being able to watch on tv. In 10 years where 90% of the shots will be threes will ruin the game.
@@bwanimations7130 I think the warrior's front office has already committed to a 2 year farewell tour for the big 3, that's why the team is not willing to add a third year to their offer. They want to move on, and get back to winning, but they have to contend with a very simple fact: the fan base doesn't necessarily want to win, they want to win another ring for the big 3 in general and Steph in particular. If you are paying Steph, Draymond and Klay over $100 million a year, there is no pathway to being a team that gets past the second round of the playoffs, absolute best case scenario. the fanbase is still delusional with the 2022 title; the warriors have missed the playoffs 3 of the last 5 seasons, the 2022 title was a last gasp miracle where everything worked out perfectly. Missing the playoffs altogether is this team's true level right now.
Remember one other key thing: Joe Lacob does NOT own a majority stake in the franchise, he owns a plurality stake in the franchise. This means, unlike the overwhelming majority of other owners, Joe Lacob is vulnerable to a coup d'état attempt. If enough of the minority owners band together and push a vote of no-confidence in Lacob's leadership, they can remove him as owner. He can be outvoted. The reason why there is no chance of that happening is that Lacob might spend a ton of money, but the franchise value has exploded under his leadership, and exploding franchise value is what the minority owners care about. Winning or losing games, or championships, is not why most people own pro sprots teams, they own them to make money. Joe Lacob has a unique incentive to keep the fans happy, keep the merchandise sales strong and to keep Chase Center full every night. I'm guessing the minority owners want to keep the fans happy, and to make money, which means keeping Klay.
when will free agency starts?
Morey stated he wanted a wing so its between LBJ (unlikely), PG13 (likely but depending on LAC offer), Jimmy Butler (most likely but depends on how many years Sixers are willing to offer).
These players today, live off social media so much, they forget about reality. He must've forget time is real, and his time is up. No team will pick him for less than 2 yrs. He's not risking youth for age at this point, that injury was too much for him, and he needs to accept that.
Here we go
So they didn’t make their decision….. 🤦♂️
Still cant convince me the sixers would be better with pg than if they just signed like 2-4 good roleplayers instead
Yeah, they didn't learn the lesson from the past few champions. Chasing stars won't help them win unless they all take a pay cut because having depth is key right now.
@@BaithNaThe Celtics literally have 4 all star caliber players in their starting lineup. That's the part y'all keep skipping over. What works for one team doesn't always work for another.
@@smoothsavage2870Boston has 2 stars and 4 elite role players
@@smoothsavage2870 is all about synergy and defense
OKC and Magic make a lot of sense for Klay in terms of impact on the floor. 76ers have too many question marks on roster before considering whether Embiid can get into a good playing weight or stay health.
No team is going to give Klay more than two years, and Monk has shown that $17-20mil per season is about the ceiling. Teams have money, but it doesn't mean they want to spend it because of their desire to be under the aprons. The Warriors are doing the right thing by letting Klay find out that the market isn't there.
Thunder need like 2 real bigs like Clint capela or Steven Adams
I’ve been saying it since mid season, as much as I hate Philly klay would be the perfect fit there
2 years 30m max. Or 3 years 30m max, hope for a ring. The warriors need to build, not pay dividends for past rings. Klay's injury took his mojo out. For years, he was paid to rest. It's time to get real.
would like to see him play in Milwaukee
Nobody talking about the fact that he owes the majority of his reputation to curry, stephs movement and draw of defenders has always got Klay the best looks, he won’t find that anywhere else and he’s already fell off.
He’ll get paid but in all reality he’s done either way
Yikes! As a Thunder fan, we don't want or need Klay. He wouldn't start on the Thunder. There's no room.
Yo there’s 30 teams. Why he need to go to Orlando so bad? He needs to be on a contender
Orlando plays in a weaker conference and are a playoff team
Orlando is a contender with a Klay. Our big 3 are all 22 year olds. They will only get better and they are already great at this time
Just don't let him play in an elimination game
He's got 4 Rings. He's definitely the guy you want in an elimination game.
Can we get Ulrich Kamka Chomche in the NBA draft?
Imagine a world where Klay has 1 or two more rings than Steph…
As an OKC fan, why the hell would we want a washed up Klay? We have plenty of shooters that are much more younger and versatile. Just because we have the assets and cap space doesnt mean any player that wants a max money is going to be signed by the team. OKC doesnt operate that way. Plus we still remember what he did to us in 2016. So hell no GS or other team can keep him
Thunder should not sign Klay. The team has shooters.
Warriors are hesitant to give a number, they wanna see what other teams can offer Klay. Golden State can still match that offer or move on...
Klay should do a westbrook. If GS offers him something, take it.
it's better for him to stay in Warriors with Steph until their retirement! Like Kobe and others like him who stayed for their team. It hits different when you are one of those players who just in one team throughout all of your career and achievements that you made with that single team who drafted you even if it was in a trade draft swap scenario.
5 1sts and 5 2nds, not necessarily all the ones from OKC going to Milwaukee. In this trade they can accept up to 31 more million minus the 3m slot for the #12 pick if applicable I believe.
Klay Thompson to Orlando
Tyler Herro can fit actually if Milwaukee wanted to forward the #12 to Miami, Miami might do that straight with no 2nds for the salary purposes. This would leave Milwaukee with Herro, Dort, Dieng, 4 1sts and 5 2nds for Giannis no one's beating that
If Klay stays with the team then the next question is he going to accept coming off the bench?
Klay jeeds to just go anywhere that is giving him the kost money cash out its your last contact
Read this a few months ago as a comment
"I wish Klay would retire as a Warrior. I also wish for him to retire tomorrow."
If Klay does go, how much space does that free up for them?
Put Paul George in Klay's position in GSW and he will replicate Klay's shooting, with better defense
Bring Klay to the the spurs. So he can teach the young guys hard work and how to shoot. He probably not ready to do that yet but id pick up that jersey real quick.
as a sixers fan i dont really belive our eyes should be set on klay and so fsr it doesn't seem like it
It’s not Klay that is the problem it’s Wiggins and Looney 🤦🏾♂️
Yh a guy who scores 0 in elimination is not the problem 😂 stick to 2k little boy
🤯 basically 6 rotation young guys and 4 1sts for Giannis alone at the end of the day
The question for me is how much do teams want to pay Klay in 3-5 years? The answer I'd give is not a damn dollar lol. 60 for 2 years sounds about right.
No way I'd pay him a big long term contract. Kick rocks buddy. You don't get paid for what you did years ago, already been paid 100 times over for that.
First good rule change I've heard in a while.
Paul George goes back to OKC just to help them secure one of the best trade outcomes of all time
Klay for PG? 👀
Seen Klay in airport in LA homeboy looked like he gave no fcks, eating fig newtons like a G waiting for his flight
The Warriors have not yet made a decision…
What is golden states goal for the future though? Like they’re obviously not a championship contender but like its not like they’ll be bad because they still have steph on the roster.
Honestly they need to shed payroll, too many players making greatly and I am sorry, but if you have a top 5 payroll, getting smeared by the Kings in the play in is not good or acceptable… o also hope they are looking for their next head coach too
What are the odds Clay ends up in Denver? I heard KCP has a lot of suitors.
Trade Wiggins for derozan and cp for a nice bench piece
DeRozan is a free agent sign him and try and sign Paul George. Get rid of Paul or trade for markanan
The warriors have enough young talent to start a rebuild, however with Steph there they are essentially in always win now situation. Even with kuminga breaking out and the other rookies showing flashes realistically it’ll take them 2 years to get good enough to even think about a title. While they are not gonna do it the best interest would be to either trade most of their young talent and klay, get a solid team around curry and commit to one last time, or call it quits and let klay Steph and dray go and commit to the younger players. Them trying to do both rebuild and compete is what made their season end the way it did.
I swear as a sixers fan if we sign klay for more then 15 mil a year imma be pissed. Like 3years/45m sounds fair to me
if you’re only offering klay $15 a year then why would he leave golden state?
Going for big names or an 3rd Superstar would be the final nail in the coffin for the Embiid era...
@@KushCorp pretty sure the lower half of embiid’s body is already the nail in the coffin
He turned down 2 years 48 Million...
How about Huston ?
Obviously Milwaukee could convert those 2nds soon. If they are 5 2029 2nds New York might give them the #23 and #24 (maybe Knicks get a player or expand the trade)Milwaukee would have 3 1sts in a row this year with 4 more 1sts coming
Plot twist the grizzlies sign him lol
As a thunder fan, I would disagree that getting Klay is something to look into tbh. While he would fit into the team, we already have players that are younger with similar skillsets so it would take up space for their development. More importantly, Klay is a mold of player that we just don't need as much. We really need a back up big for when Chet isn't on the floor like Kelly Olynyk or somebody else so if we do make a move like him, then we probably won't have as much as Klay may want since I believe that he is looking more towards money than another ring.
Start Klay Thompson at center and move Chet to power forward...
Thunder don't need Klay unless he came as a bargain. Magic could use him ... but shouldn't overpay.
Rebuild time
Front load a 4 year .. 35,30,25,20
Injury prone shot 17 points a game an if any other coach was in golden state he would have been coming off the bench
Somebody is gunna pay klay regret it 😂🤦🏾♂️Orlando/kings/mavs/lakers is the only teams I see willing to pay him & be on a winning team he prolly can get a decent pay but short term contract
Is this the same Klay Thompson who shot 0-10 in an elimination game?
He has had some stinkers (Game 7 vs Clippers in 2014, he totally disappeared)
The Klay slander has gotten out of hand. His shooting splits are still good and he can fit anywhere to give a team championship experience and 24-30 minutes a night.
Yes, as long as he's not demanding too much money he could help the Magic or even the Warriors. But I thought they were crazy to offer him 24 million a year and he turned it down a year ago.
i dont think the problem is his shooting splits but rather his consistency. as much as he kept the warriors afloat in games he also shot them out of games...especially the last one
Klay Thompson END starting five ?
The Sixers are not going to wait for PG and aren't interested in Klay.
And if we punt on trading for Ingram, then we will go the bargain hunting for good role players, while preserving 4 first round pics for a post Dec 15 trade.
For the big shooting guard, I'd rather have the younger Hield at 12 M than aging Klay at 25 M.
Klay seems to be high maintenance and he wouldn't work well with a Joel/Maxey led team.
ORL will probably be going with KCP as 1st option, but if DEN matches, could switch to offering Klay 3 yrs.
Spurs/orlando/6ers & mavs might get him 3 yrs he should meet in the middle on warriors & get a 2yrs 1 team option on the last yr or something
Klay to the heat
Steph deserves to get another star in Golden State and give him a serious shot for another ring for what he has done. They shouldn't give a shi about their future and focus on building around Steph last good years.
Nice and balanced 2-3-4 for the roster of a 1st round level franchise these days anyway 😅 in the big picture it's like the team's getting a few 1sts for free 😏😏
How do u not mention Dallas?
Klay to Orlando
Calling the east weak is as casual as it gets🫵😂
He should sign a max with the clippers …..Mr B has been burning money & doesn’t care
nuggets would be elite if they find a way
Warriors! Get a big... Give steph a big man! There r many available this time. Get a big man for step🙏 if steph had a guy like steven Adams, he'll have eight rings by now.
If we can get Lonzo ball n lavine for klay and moody I’ll do it
OKC next move should be focused on a big not Klay.
Klay ain’t leaving Steph.
He wants a long term contract
He doesn’t have too, but he is not going to get a huge contract
He doesn't have the guts to leave and not have the protection of Curry.
You and the Dallas mavs rider CZcamsr are the only 🐇 dudes that don't have annyoying voices
Hoping okc win next years title
Malik Monk on a similar tier as Klay Thompson? Hell no, Monk is a much more dynamic player, a good playmaker, a great shotmaker and a clutch scorer. He might not be a good defender, but Klay isn't either. I'm willling to think Klay will provide some good shooting and spacing to certain teams, but he is not on the same level as Monk.