Thank you so much for this recommendation. I just tested the video capabilities of my M50 last Saturday on a flowers field. The quality of the 4K is amazing, but man about 95% f the footage was unusable because of wobble (the camera was bare, so it was 100% hand-held and sadly I did not bring my tripod). I am setting up my M50 for videography, I am waiting on the Viltrox speedbooster and the Neewer cage that I believe you recommended to arrive next month. I am considering getting later a 22mm prime lens or something alike. I will see how much I improve with the cage, if not I might just buy this gimbal, your footage looks very smooth.
I noticed a couple of interesting new stylistic things you did in this video. Like the small drama scene. Was the idea that you'd lost your daughter and you were scrambling to find her? The sequence really showed off the steadiness of the gimbal.
You are certainly correct about finicky gimbals. I have purchased 4 in my lifetime and returned 3 of them. The only reason I kept the 4th (Crame M2) is that it worked "most" of the time. But perhaps worth asking here, is the M50 actually your first choice to shoot video?
Thanks for the review. What are the main differences/benefits compared to the M3? Wondering what I would miss out on if choosing to get a second hand M3 rather than a new M3s?
This will be far more portable, but will only work well with prime lenses, and smaller zooms. The DJI is pretty big, but will handle more. I really like the new Weebill 3s. It's the best gimbal you can buy for size, price, performance, ratio.
@@PurpleFlush - Canon do still support the M50, but now the R50 has been released, that support will come to an end in a number of years time - long after most people have replaced their M mount cameras.
I’ve been trying to decide if I want to get a gimbal and the M3s has been on my radar. But I have a few questions: 1. Will it Also work with a small rig cage on the M50 or M6 (I have both) 2. My favorite lenses for video are the sigma 16 and the 18-35 with an adapter but those are both heavy. So would they even work? And can you even adjust the zoom with a lens on the gimbal?
There doesn't seem to be space to unlatch the door on the right of the M50 that has the micro-USB port - were you actually able to use the wired connection? Is it necessary?
Oh, I've just bought quick release update for original M3. One thing I noticed - all original quick release in both versions are not compatible with arca swiss.
Would you recommend this over the Hohem AI tracking gimbal for my m50? This would be my first gimbal. Whichever one I get based on your recommendation lol
I was looking for info on M50 accessories, not only did I find a fellow Melburnian (I was like 'wait that's Port Melbourne.'), but we also have the same camera bag 😂
Hello Mark. One reviewer said that Zhiyun M3S motor strugle in underslung mode. Did you notice it. I need gimbal for toddler so underslung mode will be used probably most of the time. Can you recommend small gimbal that works well in this mode. I have Sony zve10. Thank you
I just bought the R50, My question is when going from 18mm to 45mm do you need to rebalance? Can the gimbal motors handle it? Or would it be better to balance it at 25mm like right in the middle.
@@markwiemels ok thanks for replying! ❤️ do you have an arca Swiss plate you’d recommend for the M50 that doesn’t get in the way of the batt door? I’ve been considering the falcam f38 or f22 plates but can’t find any reviews of that system with the M50. (Make a video about it?) 🙏😬
Mark I know you talked about the fish eye lens for astro with the Canon M50. Any advice or videos on astro settings in general for Canon M50 aside from the moon video? Enjoy your content. TIA.
@markwiemels Mark, I just got my Crane M3S. I can't fit the usb cable (for camera control) into the micro usb slot on the M50 because the port is blocked by the tilt motor. Same problem would exist with hdmi cable. the port is blocked by the gimbal unless i move the M50 far to the left, which I'm not sure is workable. Im also new to gimbal balancing but this complication seems to be built in. Looking for a right angle ribbon-micro usb to usb C cable option. That might work. But it's disappointing.
I would go for this one. It will handle those lenses and is smaller, with a better user interface. I like the 3s too, I have both, but only use it when the camera/lens combo won’t work on the M3S.
I have a canon M50 Mark 2. I can't figure out how to press a button on the gimbal so that the camera starts recording. I need to hit the record button on the camera itself. Is what I'm trying to do possible? I can't find any settings to connect via Bluetooth or whatever to connect m50 to the crane m3. I have the USB-C to micro USB connected to my camera from the gimbal. It seems to do absolutely nothing. Can you please help me with this? Thank you
I assume the cheaper M2S does NOT have the three killer features you highlighted here... is that correct? It's not just a lower mass capacity but also fewer features?
@@markwiemels Just checking my kit the biggest I think I will run is an A7C + 16-35mm f4 FE PZ... what do you think? Too big for the M2S..? Otherwise more typically ZV-E10 + 11mm f1.8 E or maybe the 15mm f1.4 E... P.S. you do a lot of vlogging in my old stomping ground : )
@@markwiemels yes, I checked out their list, but it would be awesome to see someone's hands on experience. So far that I've seen nobody paired up this gimbal with any Fuji cameras other than the X100V os something like that.
will it support the smallrig cage? i would get tired of removing the cage and putting it back on just to use the gimbal. hence why i havent bought a gimbal yet.
I got the canon m50 and the crane 2s. But the gimbal can not handle the camera in vertical mode. Do you have another gimbal suggestion for me ? Is the 3s able to do so ?
@@markwiemels agreed. Is but maybe to ease of use justifies it (?.....idk I'm just planning to buy it) The undersling handle looks so comfy. Maybe time will tell
@mark those links don't work outside of us if you have the Amazon app installed. I'm in NL and it just brings the Amazon app to the home page when I click either link. Might help to specify the product model in the description if links can't be fixed.
@@StefanRogin yes, it does this when there isn’t stock of the product in those countries, once it’s in stick it should automatically update. That’s how it’s suppose to work anyways.
It’s an evolution, the quick release, Bluetooth control, and wired control for more cameras are the main upgrades. These are small updates that make a big difference in usability. They are real hardware updates, so they had to give it a slightly updated name. Even Zhiyun said to me, this is not a big update, it’s just a product evolution.
I frustrating when they don’t upgrade firmware on old models to work with new cameras. I have a Weebill S that I use with my M50 but it won’t talk with my R10. Very annoying.
I bought this on your recommendation and its absolute trash, could never get this to connect to my phone, either android or iphone. Did a firmware upgrade, it worked for 20 min and then shutoff never to turn back on again. Back to amazon it goes.
I think you probably just got a bad unit, which can happen with any product. Amazons easy return system is great though, it’s the main reasons I shop with them so much.
@@markwiemels possibly, UPS picked it up today yo return back, will get the replacement in 3 days, hope it's better and I just got unlucky but some things like the app itself are pretty poor, the unit was decent out of the box in manual mode then just fell apart. If the next one is just as bad I'll have to chalk it up to a company taken a once hold product and doing cost reductions to keep the price the same but end up making it worse. Have seen it on a few other products I bought this year.
That looks like an impressive gimbal. Unfortunately, I can't upgrade because otherwise I'll end up with more gimbals than cameras!
Thank you so much for this recommendation. I just tested the video capabilities of my M50 last Saturday on a flowers field.
The quality of the 4K is amazing, but man about 95% f the footage was unusable because of wobble (the camera was bare, so it was 100% hand-held and sadly I did not bring my tripod).
I am setting up my M50 for videography, I am waiting on the Viltrox speedbooster and the Neewer cage that I believe you recommended to arrive next month. I am considering getting later a 22mm prime lens or something alike.
I will see how much I improve with the cage, if not I might just buy this gimbal, your footage looks very smooth.
Hello sir, the record button is not function when you used it for video
I noticed a couple of interesting new stylistic things you did in this video. Like the small drama scene. Was the idea that you'd lost your daughter and you were scrambling to find her? The sequence really showed off the steadiness of the gimbal.
It was from this silly video we shot, just to test the gimbal.
czcams.com/video/EVHCg_tuspc/video.html
You are certainly correct about finicky gimbals. I have purchased 4 in my lifetime and returned 3 of them. The only reason I kept the 4th (Crame M2) is that it worked "most" of the time. But perhaps worth asking here, is the M50 actually your first choice to shoot video?
No, M50 is not my fist choice for video, at least not anymore. It's still a great camera, but the video specs are a bit lacking for 2023.
i just got the ziyhun gimbal for the m50 mark two. my first gimbal. its super cool!
The record button is not function specially in video
It does on the M3s, but not on the older M3.
Mark 2 questions Can we film it vertically with the gimbal? And does it support the sigma 16mm which is a big lense?
Hi Mark. Will this work on a canon M50 with a 56mm and 16mm Sigma F1.4 lens?
This gimbal looks great, but I've been using the Zhiyun Weebil S with the M50 and the results have been phenomenal. Hey if it ain't broke, right?
Yes, that's still a great gimbal.
Thanks for the review. What are the main differences/benefits compared to the M3? Wondering what I would miss out on if choosing to get a second hand M3 rather than a new M3s?
The main thing is the ability to control the camera from the gimbal.
Hi mark could that gimbal can handle the weight of the canon m50 with viltrox adapter?
Mark, another great video thank you. Will this work with the small rig cage?
Simple answer is yes, and I have used it that way, more complicated answer is that it’s dependent on whole package including the lens.
Thank you, your link has the cheapest deal for the 3s.
Always a wealth of information, @markwiemels ! How would you compare this with the DJI RS3 Pro, specifically with an Sony A7R V?
This will be far more portable, but will only work well with prime lenses, and smaller zooms. The DJI is pretty big, but will handle more. I really like the new Weebill 3s. It's the best gimbal you can buy for size, price, performance, ratio.
5:31 TIL I run like Mark.
Thank you for still giving the M50 some love, even if Canon doesn't love it anymore.
Wow I didn’t know they’re weren’t supporting it anymore. That sucks because it’s a good entry level camera.
@@PurpleFlush - Canon do still support the M50, but now the R50 has been released, that support will come to an end in a number of years time - long after most people have replaced their M mount cameras.
I’ve been trying to decide if I want to get a gimbal and the M3s has been on my radar. But I have a few questions:
1. Will it Also work with a small rig cage on the M50 or M6 (I have both)
2. My favorite lenses for video are the sigma 16 and the 18-35 with an adapter but those are both heavy. So would they even work? And can you even adjust the zoom with a lens on the gimbal?
I will work with the cage and the 16mm, but not the 18-35.
czcams.com/video/GjDWY0Hm5jo/video.html
It is so confusing, I am confused: M3S is an update to M3 or M2S?
M3s is an update to the M3, I used old b roll to show some of the features.
M2S is a cheaper model, that is also popular with m50 owners.
Can you use your preferred camera cage for the M50 with this gimbal or do you need to remove the camera from that cage?
I'm new to gimbals, is this one better for the M50 Mark II than those Ronin gimbals? I'm not a very technical kind of guy :) Thanks for your advice!
There doesn't seem to be space to unlatch the door on the right of the M50 that has the micro-USB port - were you actually able to use the wired connection? Is it necessary?
Does the Weebill 3s have autocalibration like the Zhiyun Crane M3S ?
Do you favor one of these models over the other ?
It does, I prefer the M3S if it can handle the camera you plan to use. It's has the best performance of any of the gimbals I have tested.
Will the gimbal attach to the m50 with a cage on it?
Oh, I've just bought quick release update for original M3. One thing I noticed - all original quick release in both versions are not compatible with arca swiss.
Wow, I didn’t know they sold the update separately, good to know, thanks.
Would you recommend this over the Hohem AI tracking gimbal for my m50? This would be my first gimbal. Whichever one I get based on your recommendation lol
I was looking for info on M50 accessories, not only did I find a fellow Melburnian (I was like 'wait that's Port Melbourne.'), but we also have the same camera bag 😂
Is there any catch on the "free" edition of Da Vinci ? (last link on your list for COMPUTER AND EDITING)
It's missing some features that are minor for most people.
Hello Mark. One reviewer said that Zhiyun M3S motor strugle in underslung mode. Did you notice it. I need gimbal for
toddler so underslung mode will be used probably most of the time.
Can you recommend small gimbal that works well in this mode. I have Sony zve10.
Thank you
Do they provide the black colored one? the white is so standing out for me
Hi mark that gimbal could handle the weight of the camera with a vlitrox adapter?
Thank you for the review. Would you also suggest this gimbal for the R10, also over the Weebill 3s?
Yes, I would, unless you are using bigger lenses.
can it be used on canon r50?
I just bought the R50, My question is when going from 18mm to 45mm do you need to rebalance? Can the gimbal motors handle it? Or would it be better to balance it at 25mm like right in the middle.
Hello! Have you already tried this gimbal on your R50?
Can this fit Canon R50?
Can this fit the R50?
does the gimbal attach if you have a cage on your m50?
Any tutorial you recommend to learn how to balance it I just got it for my m50 mk ii for mt birthday! Thank you
I have one about balancing the M2s in the channel, same concepts.
Looks great! What base plate are you using on the M50 that lets you open the battery door so easily?
It’s just a little one that comes with the gimbal. Unfortunately it’s not a universal plate, like arca swiss.
@@markwiemels ok thanks for replying! ❤️ do you have an arca Swiss plate you’d recommend for the M50 that doesn’t get in the way of the batt door? I’ve been considering the falcam f38 or f22 plates but can’t find any reviews of that system with the M50. (Make a video about it?) 🙏😬
Super helpful review
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Mark I know you talked about the fish eye lens for astro with the Canon M50. Any advice or videos on astro settings in general for Canon M50 aside from the moon video? Enjoy your content. TIA.
I have been meaning to make a video about that for ages. Would start at iso 800, 20 seconds, aperture wide open, adjust from there.
@@markwiemels Thank you!
@markwiemels Mark, I just got my Crane M3S. I can't fit the usb cable (for camera control) into the micro usb slot on the M50 because the port is blocked by the tilt motor. Same problem would exist with hdmi cable. the port is blocked by the gimbal unless i move the M50 far to the left, which I'm not sure is workable. Im also new to gimbal balancing but this complication seems to be built in. Looking for a right angle ribbon-micro usb to usb C cable option. That might work. But it's disappointing.
You can slide it over to accommodate the cable, but you can also use the wireless control function.
@@markwiemels Thanks. It does have to be all the way slid out for the included cable to fit into the jack.
Does this gimbal work with the 70-200 telephoto lens?
No, the lens would be too big for it.
como enfocas manual mente con el gimbal?
Thanks for the vid! I just got my m3 and it seems the shoe provided blocks my batt compartment on the m50 cam... how did you mod yours?
Yes, it does, with every camera from memory, this is true with most gimbals. I think the M3s solves that issue.
Hello Mark, You think this gimbal is all good for a Sony ZV E10 + Sigma 16+30mm lens or should I go for the Weebill 3s?
I would go for this one. It will handle those lenses and is smaller, with a better user interface. I like the 3s too, I have both, but only use it when the camera/lens combo won’t work on the M3S.
@@markwiemelsOne more question Mark. Is Weebill 3s stabilization any better than M3S? Thank you so much.
Can it be used vertically?
I have a canon M50 Mark 2. I can't figure out how to press a button on the gimbal so that the camera starts recording. I need to hit the record button on the camera itself. Is what I'm trying to do possible? I can't find any settings to connect via Bluetooth or whatever to connect m50 to the crane m3. I have the USB-C to micro USB connected to my camera from the gimbal. It seems to do absolutely nothing. Can you please help me with this? Thank you
they aren't compatible
how long does the battery last?
I assume the cheaper M2S does NOT have the three killer features you highlighted here... is that correct? It's not just a lower mass capacity but also fewer features?
M2S is still pretty good, if you are on a budget and sticking with the small lenses, like the kit lens, it’s still fine.
@@markwiemels Just checking my kit the biggest I think I will run is an A7C + 16-35mm f4 FE PZ... what do you think? Too big for the M2S..? Otherwise more typically ZV-E10 + 11mm f1.8 E or maybe the 15mm f1.4 E... P.S. you do a lot of vlogging in my old stomping ground : )
Can you test it with Fujifilm cameras? I wonder if a body plus the 10-24mm will do with this gimbal.
I don't have that setup to test. Zhiyun does have a list on their website.
@@markwiemels yes, I checked out their list, but it would be awesome to see someone's hands on experience. So far that I've seen nobody paired up this gimbal with any Fuji cameras other than the X100V os something like that.
How would this gimbal handle Sigma 16mm on the M50?
There is a video about this on the channel.
will it support the smallrig cage? i would get tired of removing the cage and putting it back on just to use the gimbal. hence why i havent bought a gimbal yet.
It does, but it depends on the total package including the lens, I have used it with the cage.
@@markwiemels thats amazing. thank you sir.
Question for you, I have the M3 combo kit with the mic, I'm I able to use that mic with this M3S?
No, they have removed the mic connection function.
I have the M3 and I keep getting an issue where one of the mount locks will lock up causing the gimbal to not work properly.
Have you contacted Zhiyun? Their customer support has been great, in my experience.
Does it work for canon eos R50?
Yes
@markwiemels would you recommend it with any other Canon cameras? 1:42
Yes, for sure!
@@markwiemels any specific models?
I got the canon m50 and the crane 2s. But the gimbal can not handle the camera in vertical mode.
Do you have another gimbal suggestion for me ? Is the 3s able to do so ?
Yes, in see my M3 video for how that works,
@@markwiemels Which one? You have several
Is object tracking possible with Crane M3 S ?
no
terrific! 👏👏👏
Thanks,
what are you doing in Australia btw?
I live here, moved over 26 years ago.
Can this fit the R50?! HAAALP ME 😅😢
Yes.
Can it set it to shoot vertically?
Yes, it has that mode, but you need to hold the gimbal in the “flash light” position to use it. It works well.
@@markwiemels awesome thanks for the reply Mark!
"That's what she said" 3:17 (sorry, someone needed to say it).
How about the feiyutech scorp mini, or c ?
I like the looks of that one, but shape makes it awkward for putting in a bag or travel.
@@markwiemels agreed. Is but maybe to ease of use justifies it (?.....idk I'm just planning to buy it) The undersling handle looks so comfy. Maybe time will tell
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@mark those links don't work outside of us if you have the Amazon app installed. I'm in NL and it just brings the Amazon app to the home page when I click either link.
Might help to specify the product model in the description if links can't be fixed.
@@StefanRogin yes, it does this when there isn’t stock of the product in those countries, once it’s in stick it should automatically update. That’s how it’s suppose to work anyways.
Zhiyun is updating their gimbals every season - What's the point?
It’s an evolution, the quick release, Bluetooth control, and wired control for more cameras are the main upgrades. These are small updates that make a big difference in usability. They are real hardware updates, so they had to give it a slightly updated name. Even Zhiyun said to me, this is not a big update, it’s just a product evolution.
I frustrating when they don’t upgrade firmware on old models to work with new cameras. I have a Weebill S that I use with my M50 but it won’t talk with my R10. Very annoying.
@@AWTechTuesday Thank you for that tip, I thought about buying that for my R8 now I know not to!
I bought this on your recommendation and its absolute trash, could never get this to connect to my phone, either android or iphone. Did a firmware upgrade, it worked for 20 min and then shutoff never to turn back on again. Back to amazon it goes.
I think you probably just got a bad unit, which can happen with any product. Amazons easy return system is great though, it’s the main reasons I shop with them so much.
@@markwiemels possibly, UPS picked it up today yo return back, will get the replacement in 3 days, hope it's better and I just got unlucky but some things like the app itself are pretty poor, the unit was decent out of the box in manual mode then just fell apart. If the next one is just as bad I'll have to chalk it up to a company taken a once hold product and doing cost reductions to keep the price the same but end up making it worse. Have seen it on a few other products I bought this year.
@@markwiemels yep got the new one today from Amazon and it works fantastic so got a DOA unit the first time
104 from W. MI. ;-)
Hi mark that gimbal could handle the weight of the camera with a vlitrox adapter?
Hi mark that gimbal could handle the weight of the camera with a vlitrox adapter?
You can check the compatibility list here: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20231012/1697105617675-SrKiynZp.pdf