Melo On Why the Giannis “Has No Bag” Conversation is Irrelevant
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2023
- There’s always been a conversation in hoops circles about Giannis Antetokounmpo’s “bag”, or lack thereof. Melo, explains why that shouldn’t even matter. #carmeloanthony #thekidmero #giannisantetokounmpo
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50 piece in a Game 6 for a ring. I wouldn’t change up neither
Making 17 out of 19 free throws. 5 blocks, 14 rebounds.
Legendary
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He had a full bag in that game
Yeah people are lunatics talkin about the game. Giannis is probably once in a generation. I legit get scared for dudes trying to stop him like we’re bound to see a gory wound any day now.
James Hareden called Giannis “Run and Dunk” once and people have run with it sadly. No body in the league has mastered the spin move, Euro-step as well as Giannis currently. He has good handles for his size to get to the rim (hence why he averages 30ppg) high IQ defender (won DPOY) just to name a few. Unlike Shaq, (1 made three in entire career), Giannis has made 504 and counting 3s. Clearly despite it being his weakness he doesn’t shy from improving. Plus if you watch his Bucks games, Giannis has been getting better with his midrange and post game. He is only 29, still room for perfecting his offensive skill set.
Yeah his midrange is actually getting sneaky.
which is crazy because james harden is "step back and hoist"
@@luckerooni1153 😂😂😂😂 don’t forget the unnecessary dribble between the legs back n forth real quick to get nowhere before the step back.
exacatly. ome people are so stupid they think you can get to the rim at will with n handles, shit is concerning
Thank you. I was disappointed to hear Melo say he has no skills. Like come on, you cannot be as successful as he has by just literally running and dunking. About 80%+ of his points come from his ability to maneuver in traffic.
So everyone in the nba knows what Giannis is going to do. And Giannis is still scoring 30 a game. The bag is irrelevant.
Thank you bro. Seem like nobody wanna hear this
@@R3vokenDallout1on here's the thing- how many elite three point specialists / jump shot snipers are in the league? Seems every team has at least one to some degree. How many slice and dice power forward / centers are in the league that can contort themselves around double teams with lightening quickness or simply jump over or through defenders with raw athletic power? There's one. No one else can do what he does. For a minute it was looking like Zion might be in that realm, but he's not even close.
@@adamseidel8901Only Zion or Ja can match up to Giannis but still not close. N*gga scoring 30ppg on 60% from the floor. Some freaky shit😅
@@adamseidel8901outside the paint he's terrible no shot
Not a great argument. He could be scoring 35 easy with a jumper. You are all complacent and settling for good enough. He won a ring, congratulations. Unless he’s winning every year he should be trying to improve his skill set.
He genuinely does have a handle for his height. Anytime I hear someone say this it's an immediate red flag that they don't actually watch him play often
Plus what 6’11” players have elite handles? Only one I can think of is KD
Exactly, its such a dumb take. He can handle the ball, elite defender and elite finisher. How many 6"11 players have these skills? He's not a unicorn that can shoot, that doesnt mean he has no bag.
Plus he's a genuine floor general whose field vision isn't talked about enough
Carmelo Anthony just said it.... Who tf are you lmao
Giannis is actually really skilled
Dropped 50 in a game 6 and won a chip . Tf are we even talking about?
@@beankobe8205he has no jump shot out side the paint he's terrible
@@BigDicnigga-eh4kj he makes a few threes . But won back to back mvps and a fmvps ain’t that sonething ?
@@beankobe8205 so what outside the paint he's terrible that's why he gets criticized . Stop crying because people point out flaws in your game
@@beankobe8205 this soft as generation keeps crying about disrespect just because people point out the flaws in your game
Giannis has skill. He is a great ball handler, he has a million ways to finish at the basket, he's great in the post, he's an excellent passer and playmaker, outstanding defender, etc. I'm tired of hearing that he's not skilled. Not having a consistent jumper is his only weakness
He doesn't have much skill. & It's ok my friend. He hasn't needed it. He has one good hand. He can only really finish in front of the rim. He lacks touch. He's an average passer/playmaker. He can't shoot outside of 3 feet. He shoots barely average jumper while being open lol. It's ok to admit he isn't skilled lol. He makes up for it with dominance, length & motor. He has a bag but if you looked inside all you'd see is a big ass sledge hammer & a power drill in there.
@@TheMonjok24 Giannis had a 16 assist triple double last week but he's an average passer? He's literally the best finisher around the rim in the league ... Sounds pretty skilled to me. People get on the Internet and say anything
Facts, he's a great rebounder too.
@@TheMonjok24have u seen his footwork. Also the eurosteps running full speed is not easy
Giannis has elite body movement coordination for his size, but I would not say he is skilled. He is 6-11, strong, has long arms, and is very fluid. His skill level is not higher than any 6'0 D1 guard. People vastly underestimate height, arm length, and coordination in basketball, a game where you're trying to put a ball in a 10ft basket. It's impossible to guard someone that tall and fluid even with a basic skill level.
Giannis already replied to this in a short about a month ago he said… “oh I don’t have a bag? ok, keep it that way so when you go home from Milwaukee and take that cold shower your gonna be wondering how the guy with no bag just beat you.”
Contemplating life in the shower😂😂😂. I love Giannis man
MELO contradicted himself , what Giannis does on a nightly basis is a skill!!!
Giannis is the most dominant 'bagless' player in the history of the NBA! I want that bag! 🤗✨️🏀
Nah that's Shaq or lebron. Gianni's at 3 in that regard. That or wilt
@paulh.9937 have you ever heard Carmelo and others say LeBron or Shaq had no bag?
@@paulh.9937you aren’t a real person lol
@brianparker5592 what's lebrons bag? Just curious and want your opinion. I like hearing other people's opinion on brons bag
@@brianparker5592fr LeBron got all types of bags😂
If it wasn't a 'skill' then everyone would be able to do it. This argument is nonsensical
What a braindead argument. Being highly athletic with a huge frame is NOT A SKILL, that's why no one else can do it.
No. Everyone can't do it because he's a physical specimen. The difference between him and Wemby is skill. His footwork, his movement, his shooting ability, handles, dexterity in the air, are not elite. But he's still great without skill because of his body.
@IziahThompson that is pure cap- how many people in the NBA 6'11" or taller- how many in the world? Yet only one Giannis. This is bullsht people say to try to discredit him. You obviously don't watch him actually PLAY either or you'd smell your own bs
@@IziahThompsonbro what😂
@@snakey973how many people at that height are that strong and that fast? He is physical specimen. It's ok.
His bag is weaving to the basket better than anyone ever
Winning championship is 6 games . 50 ball
Ain’t seen nobody block a fuckin alley oop after jumping LATE since
its not weaving its running ppl over
@@seanlegette4177While not being at 100%, due to the knee in the conference finals. Before he blocked the lob, he blocked Booker's penetration.
@@thorntonwilliams3851 totally forgot he hyperextended his knee BAD and was still giving up mvp numbers, crazy
People criticizing Giannis for winning the Larry O'Brien trophy "with no bag" (a trophy everyone is vying for) are finding creative ways to hate.
Just say you don't like the guy at this point 😂
It's because regular folks don't have the slightest idea of development, because it never occurred in their lives. These people think that if you hit the gym and practice, you get better. No, that's not how it works. If it worked like that, every single player in the NBA can be Steph Curry.
All players have talent in different levels and areas. Some players have shooting talent (soft touch, flexible wrist for good spins, spatial awareness to instantly measure the distance to the basket / defenders, etc...) that never revealed; they can practice and get better. Some players don't have talent, and they can't get better.
I've known countless people who play baseball that has nasty curveballs, but can't throw a lick of slider. Then vice versa, there are countless people who has nasty sliders, but can't throw a lick of curveball, and couldn't improve with years of practice.
Giannis probably tried for many years to develop a consistent jumper, but obviously it didn't work. It is pointless for him at this point of his career to try to get better at it, when his drive to the basket will always, ALWAYS have higher successful rate than taking a mid-range jumper.
I was listening to LaMarcus Aldridge on the All The Smoke podcast. He talked about Wemby's need to focus on developing 1-2 very effective move(s) he can go to anytime because in the game you have seconds to execute your play. I think he was suggesting that having a bag is overrated especially in today's game. To me, Giannis is the perfect embodiment of relying on that thing/move, which makes him so unstoppable
If Giannis is a run 🏃 and dunk player with no bag. Why other 7 foot players don’t copy and paste what he is doing? Deandre Ayton is super athletic he could do that too right? Javele Maghee is more athletic than Giannis but we don’t see him euro 💶 step dunking on people. This no bag narrative is stupid.
I wish Ben Simmons had Giannis mindset. Don't let people bully you coz you can't shoot. Go put somebody on a poster.
@@VernonTang-dx7it I smell little man energy here and a causual.
if Giannis didn’t have his insane levels of skill, he’d just be the next Bruno Cabocolo or Javale McGee
Javale is actually really good, otherwise he wouldn't have been in the league so long.
@@Underpantsniper yeah you’re right, I’m actually a big fan of Javale. It was just one of the first names that came to mind
Javale McGee....? Bro stop . McGee is a beast
He’s one of the shiftiest center/pf of all time. Dude is quick and can dribble with great footwork
The argument that Giannis has no bag is the most stupid argument ever. Literally everything he does is a skill, and just because he's naturally talented doesn't mean he should be punished for it or criticized. There are entire Sports dedicated to each individual category whether its speed strength or explosion. Giannis's ability to do that is through his training and that is his bag. Look at Usain Bolt. Anybody who doubts that it was through hard work that made him explosive and fast just searched him now that he has stopped training. It's much deserved but he has gained 30 lbs and without a doubt is no longer near the fastest man in the world. I think it's ignorance but really I think it's people are mad that Giannis is so great in a way they never were. Is mental toughness and Grit that is his bag as a basketball player. For instance Dennis Rodman and Draymond Green were great basketball players. Their bag of stuff that made them great we're not individual offensive skills. What's in a player's bag is in unique and doesn't have to be exclusively sick handle and ability to hit tough Fade Away shots in the ISO. I will take PRIME Shaq's bag of strength dominan over Prime Kobe's bag of being very skilled and athletic, even if it just by a little bit. Prime Shaq could be stopped by no one, I literally mean no one on earth. And to think some people would look down upon him because he doesn't have a bag like a guard handle is crazy.
understand, New Yorkers think they’re better than everybody else’s. Giannis have mvp and titles.
RIGHT HOW MANY 7 FOOT DUDES WAS RUNNING PG WHEN J KIDD PUT HIM THERE IN '15-16? LOL
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The funny thing is, Giannis does have a great handle.
99.999 percent of 6'11 people don't have Giannis' coordination, which is literally a fluke. Same with Embiid, you are lucky to be born with coordination even as a 6'0 tall person. NBA players have their kids trained since birth and many still end up uncoordinated and goofy because it's random. The fastest NFL players train their kids since birth and many end up not even have proper running form. Giannis is extremely coordinated in terms of body control at his height but his basketball skill level doesn't exceed the average D1 guard.
Giannis doesn't have a bag BUT HE HAS A SLEDGEHAMMER.
😂😂😂
Eurostepping as a 7 footer isnt skill? Especially when he keeps adding new intricacies to it every year. Doing it with either hand, changing pace, starting on either foot, varying direction changes with each step
Everyone can do the eurostep, it’s really not a big deal
It was a skill before bc it would be called a charge if you didn’t avoid contact with the defender
@@nydibs and yet nobody does it with as much precision as Giannis in today's game. The only players in NBA history I have seen play who could eurostep as well as, or better than, Giannis are Ginobli and DWade
I should mention that his eurostepping skills are a big part of why SGA is so damn good too
@gotaplanstan - Embiid, Anthony Edwards, Fox, Luka, Harden… all of them eurostep all the time
It’s really not even a skill anymore. Giannis is a tough guard bc he raises his elbows, both him and SGA push off all the time
I guess you would have to understand how much the refs help players like Giannis and SGA in being as successful as they are
have u ever played basketball?…a euro step?…really?💀💀💀its even easier for him at that height and he still finds a way to travel half of the time because he has no skill lmao
@@timelessiq-789 if you were right players his height and with similar athleticism like Bam and Siakam would be putting up similar numbers. Have YOU ever played basketball? Cuz it really doesn't sound like it
Melo hasnt broken down film on Giannis and it shows
He litreally compared him to a young David Robinson how about you go do your research instead of commenting
@@idgaf5794 how is that a solid comp? If anything Robinson was more skilled because he had postwork
@@Askbeejbecause if you would’ve payed attention to what he said instead of highlights David Robinson when he first came into the league played exactly like Giannis get the ball run to the hoop dunk it which is exactly what Gianni’s still does til this day david became a back to the basket guy later on
Just bc two players look physically similar doesnt mean they play the same. Harden made this argument and sounded just as ignorant. Its annoying when players who lacked evolution in their game critique dudes whove won and evolved doing it. Just because Giannis doesnt isolate by taking 20 dribbles for a less efficient shot doesnt mean he lacks a bag.
@@idgaf5794 BS David Robison didnt score 71 running to the basket bruh. The Admiral always had skill shooting the ball and handling around the rim, stop capin for melo’s bad take lol
Here in Milwaukee we know he can do EVERYTHING… dribble, pass, block, can shoot threes now, free throws got better, has a very very solid turnaround post fade.
But to everyone who’s ass we whoop its “run and dunk”. AND HES BARELY 30!
51st percentile in post up efficiency. Stop capping
They kill me saying Giannis isn’t skilled.. wtf are they watching. His size bringing the ball up.. his footwork.. his touch around the basket. He actually does have a handle to.. it’s just not elite. He has his own bag
51st percentile in efficiency on post ups. Sounds pretty mediocre to me, especially for PF.
The funny thing about the “if he had a handle” part of this video is that Giannis actually has a functionally great handle 😂
I always wonder when they say handle do they mean ball control or dribble packages(between the legs, hesi, etc.). Because he has great ball control for a guy his size. Maybe he doesn’t have the “moves” other players have, but he gets exactly where he wants to without them. Ironically it’s an argument I’ve heard used to praise people like KD(only needs a couple moves to get where he wants) and the same people use to detract from Giannis. Because 1 guy uses it to get to his most effective spot, the mid range pull up, and the other guy does it to get to his most efficient spot, the rim.
@@jahwehsbsideandrarities6162 you’re absolutely right
They low key hating on Giannis, he putting up numbers and winning MVPs and chips. Go head keep hating!!!
@@J-Hueeverything is considered “hating” nowadays it’s beyond stupid. Literally praise him and this dude brings up hating. It’s stupidity at its highest
An you keep riding that dee paa
He won a weakest chip in last 35 years
Hot Take: Giannis with “no bag” will surpass Melo in the scoring list, and he’s already surpassed him all time😅
Very hot take lol, he’d average dam near 30 for the next 5 years to have a chance, melo=offense, Giannis=defense
Giannis is a better PPG player than Loselo from year 3 onwards in their career, and will play for more years.
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthonythe last 3-4 szns, giannis avg more pts than melo ever did. Void of injury that’s not a hot take lol
He not dissing him melo better then 99% ppl played in the nba and better then you and your whole famliy tree
If it was that easy , how many 6”11 , 7fters have we seen play or dominate like him …
There isn’t a 6’11 250 pounds PF that played like a wing player like Giannis. His athleticism, ball handling skill, touch around the rim and determination is like never seen before in the NBA
Giannis wins another chip and keeps up this pace he WILL be too 10 all time. Hes already top 20 already. Looking forward to hiw his game progresses over he next 3-5 years.
Stop letting people know you don’t know basketball. Saying 1 more ring makes him top 10 is insane. Did you just start watching basketball after 2010?
@@thomaschapman6088i agree with you. To be top 10 all time means Giannis would have to be greatest PF of all time. I would put him over Barkley but he nowhere near Duncan or Dirk in accomplishments
@@TheGmsmith928he's going to clear Durk by the end of his run especially if he wins another chip. He's about to be the first player EVER to average 30 points on 60% shooting, and is in his prime.
Nah, not top 10. But top 15-20 for sure if he wins 1 more
@@nydibs I could see that perspective. He's already universally top 25 on every list and it might be hard to crack that top 10.
Ironically, Giannis is a PF with no post moves at the same time dishes like a point. A 2-way player that scores in an open court. A definitive 1-of-1. As the game evolves more after he retires, we will never ever see another Greek Freak ever again.
Those who say that Giannis " can only" run and dunk, are just jealous of his skills!!! Giannis has a lot of different skills. some days ago, he had 16 assists in a game man, and the day before, 64 freaκing points on the other game. His jump shot and midrange, has improved so much, that at some points he looks like KD, not often, but he's done that too. Should I keep mentioning the records he breaks every single night for the last moth or his defennce, passing, vision etc? Ιsn't that a bag of skills? Those who watch all the games, know what I'm talking about. Show some respect, to the best player in the NBA. He is the best, for many years now, thats why he gets all that hate. Merry Christmas haters and remember, the Apocalypse was written by a Giannis from Greece, because Giannis is the original name for John. Now go watch a different sport, that won't make you hate people as much.. and Merry Christmas to all of you!!!
So, if this brother took different things from different players and adapted them to his game, how is it possible that he doesn't have a bag? Cause I don't see that many 6'11 running and dunking on everyone, the last time that I checked, Javale McGee never average 30 ppg in any season or Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan.
The brother has a bag, he can dribble, he can finish at the rim and he is coordinated, most guys of his size don't have those attributes, and on top of that he is arguably the best defender in the league 😐.
Jamal Crawford is one of the most skilled players ever and nobody is going to remember him in 10 or 20 years, Giannis is already in the history of the NBA, the man is a 2xMVP, DPOY, Champ and FMVP.
With you 100%, but I won’t tolerate the Jamal Crawford dig, hahaha.
@@MylotheZooLovingScientist my bad bro, but I needed to make a point 😔
And he was a mvp. And finals mvp.
@@dennisguzman7861 RIGHT AND HOW DO YOU RUN PG (LIKE HE DID AGAINST BOSTON IN STRETCHES IN 22 PLAYOFFS AND UNDER J KIDD) WHILE NOT HAVING A HANDLE IN A LEAGUE FULL OF ELITE ON BALL DEFENDERS?
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE LMAO
You are 💯, that run-and-dunk crap makes no sense! All NBA big men nowadays can run and dunk
Giannis has alot of skills
"If you walk on water, haters will say that you can't swim"
Most hoopers seem to think that being skillful is mostly about shot making, shot creating or how flashy your game is. Giannis definitely has skills. Melo sounds ignorant af here, same thing with Harden. Giannis can finish, pass, post, and can handle really well for his size.
If Giannis had Melo's offensive package he'd be in the goat conversation! The world is lucky he is somewhat "limited" lol
Stop it Giannis just need a few more years
He’d be the goat with Melos offence no doubt
This is more mature than it is what it is because “Ni99a puttin it back here is crazy” but the visual is clear when you see cock back (pause) but audio sounds crazy 😂
@@Camefromnone no Melo would been a goat with Giannis ambition and defense
Casual
His free throw game is getting better so it’s over for the NBA, and now he also got Dame.
It’s so easy to tell when people don’t watch GA play smh…
He got 64 the other day. If he didn't have the"bag" he would have been like EVERY OTHER 7 footer. What makes him different is HIS bag of effort in offense AND defence.
Giannis got that Thanos Gauntlet. He just got to snap his fingers. 😂
Glad to see my boy PG getting some love. His game really is so versatile on both sides of the floor which is super hard to do.
I’ve never seen so much hate a guy get in these guys trying to justify it because they made a lot of money but Carmelo Anthony was never on the level of that guy in Milwaukee
It just goes to show the horrible mentality he had.
Unlike Giannis - he doesn’t understand what winning is about. He views the game and what’s needed to win in a flawed way.
@@muurad2301 Would you say it don’t make no goddamn sense I guess nobody’s guys talking have one anything so I guess they don’t know how to stand win nothing damn
Chill out Melo way more skilled if Giannas had the Melo bag he would of got pass the Toronto Wall 😅😅
what bag are they talking about, all i know is that he's got a bag full of accolades that only a handful of players in NBA history have! Why does it matter that he can't shoot like Steph?
Funny how hes the only 7 footer playing like that if its not skillfull then they should all average 30 right ?
His footwork and ball handling are excellent. There are plenty of freak athletes in the NBA that don't score the way he does.
Giannis has accomplished more as an athlete that not many could. And he did it his way. Put some respect on his name. He’s one of the best today.
Yeah I can’t lie I was on that Giannis no bag shit until Game 6 of the NBA Finals close out game 50 points and 14 rebounds made a believer outta me!
Saying Giannis doesn't have a handle might be the lowest IQ statement I've seen from a pro in a long time. Imagine saying a guy that JASON KIDD put at pg because of his vision and handles
and that MAGIC JOHNSON AND ISIAH THOMAS PRAISED during the period when he ran PG and that Kobe called EXTREMELY SKILLED, doesn't have a handle is hilarious. I saw someone say that he's won a title and spent his career as a BALL DOMINANT MVP. that's not david robinson. David robinson didnt handle the ball. PERIOD. Man is a hybrid they've never seen b4 and melo talkin some jak about how the old heads seen it before. News flash Magic and Isiah are "old heads" and are on record saying THEY AINT NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE lol
peace out from brooklyn. stop with these wack accepted takes and go deeper or actually watch film of the guy play. It's lazy bro
stay me7o
This ^ 💯 👏
Talk to em bro
What melo said flew right over your head. Giannis doesn’t have the handle to create his shot. He can’t cross over and get to a pull up. He can’t step back. He’s stiff with his handle. He’s saying if Gianni’s had the handle to cross, pull up, step back, (creat a shot off the dribble period), he’ll be out of this atmosphere. Which is true. Stop looking at it was a slight to Giannis. Every 7 footer can’t be kd
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@@ddchoppa8803 me70 isn't certified to talk Giannis.
Magic, Isiah, j Kidd are the greatest POINT GUARDS OF ALL TIME KOBE IS IN THE GOAT CONVO and they certified his handle.
THE PROBLEM is that Giannis CAN'T SHOOT. if he could shoot then his handle world EASILY create him jumpers. He's done step backs crossovers into spins, smittys, puts English on the ball when he don't dunk he has THE REPORTOIRE, just not the jumper.
In fact one of his most infamous stepbacks was to send the KD led nets into OT FROM 3 and then he SEALED that game in the clutch.
You're the one confused bruh
He's a PRIMARY ballhandler in a league that DESTROYS subpar primary ballhandlers and he's averaged 30 12 6 in 30 mpg for nearly 7 years.
Give it up bro.
Just say he ain't got a jumper and move on. Cuz if he don't have a bag neither do D WADE or bron
If people really think Giannis just runs and dunks is fool
David Robinson comparison is amazing.
D rob was not a primary ballhandler.
@@BibbyDaprizonCheekzBandit Trust me it’s a good ass comparison! Especially since Giannis doesn’t have a bag like the Admiral.
@@MistaP13 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nga you on that good meth ain't ya
He is scottie pippen, shawn kemp and david robinson in 1 lol
@@bucksinsix6 scottie and shawn Kemp wayyyy better comparisons only thing familiar to d rob is the physique
He trained with Hakeem Olajuwon this summer and it’s already showing dividends. Check his 64 points game out. He utilized that training well that game.
He shot 30+ free throws in that game
@@nydibs he made 20 FG’s. That’s 40 points. He displayed some proficiency with Hakeem’s Training. What are you even attempting to talk about?
Agreed, his footwork has improved dramatically. He's also developed a nice reverse spin jump hook in the lane as a go to move. I think we will see a lot of that in the playoffs.
What we are talking about here? The guy b4 getting a ring ,re-sign with bucks when everyone wanted him in a big market team and HE was the only believing in himself and the city.1 time most improved player ,2 mpvs 1 dpo ,1 finals mvp ,1 ring in a game six with 50 piece 5 blocks 15 rebounds ...NOONE ever done this.Comparing who to Giannis?He is having a block and then coast to coast like its tuesday.He is nba lifetime first on unassisted dunks .One season highlights is for more players career achievements. Top Iq on defence and offense while having top notch atchletism.He is exeptional finisher and passer...he is splitting defences big time humble guy,student of the game. About wemby.....love this guy but as we all know,he needs time to involve and mature himself and his game.He needs to stay away from glam(as he does well )and focus on working with pop ,taking care of his body and mind.Also jumping in a so called "big team" will slow his evolution and solidify him as a good player for the rest of his career.This guy is so special to ruin his future like this. Overall ,i know everyone speaks about iq and skills with certain standards but once you realise how hard and highly skilled you need to be to play like Giannis,you realise how misleading were your criteria.
Great break down Melo!
Giannis gets judged as a wing. Compare his skill to other 6'11- 7 footers. Hes probably one of the most skilled centers on both sides of the ball.
A huge part of his game is his size and athleticism but I think Giannis has skills. And he still seems like he wants to get better.
The footwork is what's not talked about Giannis knows how to get to where he wants. His bag is similar to Shaq bag. having great footwork and being dominant in the paint. That's a bag if you ask me until mf stop it.
Wild to say Giannis no bag. He working HARD and is built like a bodybuilder that’s a skill to do that and still be agile in the paint like he is.
You don’t think Steph is the same way? He is just naturally an incredible shooter and then worked to make that even better
i love your conversation。。。。
If Giannis has no bag, he would share the same fate players like DeAndre Jordan or Blake Griffin . Yet, I don't see those guys dribbling through 3 or 4 players, spinning/eurostepping, and finishing ambidextrously at the rim. I don't see these guys leading the break, crossing over, going behind the back and throwing crosscourt or no look passes. Or, does having a bag mean you must have a pretty fadeaway jumpshot? Sounds pretty limited to me. I guess Magic had no bag then. Or Lebron for that matter, a guy who's made a career out of bully ball. Yet somehow its a problem when Giannis does it.
U naming Players who genuinely had incredible Ball IQ playmaking wise.Magic also had a incredible handle for his height.LeBron court vision was top tier.And he has a pretty good shot he don’t just play bully ball.And Giannis shot isn’t that effective most of his game is only effective around the rim and that’s a true fact,even tho I don’t like how they making him seem like he has improved over the years when it does come to his game,Cuz even tho his shot is not that effective as the other players I named he definitely has better his shot,Hell they making him seem like a Ben Simmons when he 10x better than that.
I don’t get the “it’s too late in his career. If he had a handle he’d be beyond incredible.” Imagine telling Kobe that shit. He was always trying to get better and add to his game, into his mid 30s. If Giannis can get better, he should be trying to get there.
"I don’t get the “it’s too late in his career. If he had a handle he’d be beyond incredible."
What Melo is saying makes sense.
Here is the anatomy. The muscles of the hands and wrists have lot of nerves and rich blood supplies because we need them for fine motor skills like writing, playing the piano and "having a handle."
Consequently, it takes a lot of time and effort to refine eye to hand coordination and fine motor skills. So, if you don't start doing the work at a very young age, then you will never master those movements.
Sure, Giannis can develop a competent handle, but I don't think that is what Melo is talking about. Melo is talking about Kyrie Irving level "handles.'
For Giannis to get that level of handles, he will have to put in an insane amount of hours to develop those hand muscles and eye to hand coordination. It will be a lot of work for low yield. Thus, it is not efficient.
Because, he still has to put in the work to keep up his what he already does best to Championship level.
There is not enough time in a day to be a master at everything.
Conclusion, at this stage in his career it will be more efficient for Giannis to spend most of his time working on what he already does best, while spending some time to get his weaknesses to competent levels.
Wrong, Embiid started bball at 15 years and is the MVP now😂
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"Wrong, Embiid started bball at 15 years and is the MVP now"
Dude, learn to read and to understand what you are reading.
Embiid doesn't have "handles."
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Melo was straight cheesin when he was talking about his bag, shits funny af, Melo u goofy bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Carmelo Anthonys hair grows so fast 😮🤩
I feel that every position is going through an evolution except the SG position. If the trend of athletic, tall, and lanky ball handles continues, we're going to see a SG of that build soon. We haven't seen that since TMac.
I think Shai is the next evolution. Dude is fr.
@@johnnyblinggwe’ve seen a shai before he’s like a less athletic Wade
@@johnnyblingg he's just skilled and talented but not revolutionary to me
@@Lo_2xx But wouldn’t you say Wade is an evolution of the Jordan skill set?
I’m not turning this into an accolade contest, I’m talking style-wise.
D. Wade at his peak was “Jordanesque”. His body control, finishing ability, athleticism, and first step was Jordan level, but he had a more refined handle.
If Shai’s Wade-like, then he’s like the next evolution of the Jordan archetype. The athleticism may hold him back from a play style perspective from playing like MJ tho.
2 guards nowadays are either combo guards or 3&D.
The bag talk is one of the most ignorant basketball conversations of all time. Having a bag and nothing else is cool only for park ball. In any competitive professional setting, knowing how to play the game is much more valuable. Making the game easy for you and your teammates is much much more valuable. Playing defense, being the low man, switching, maintaining the intensity on both ends are all more valuable. These are all skills as well. Saying the only skill Giannis has is his athleticism is so not true. Having a bag is only valuable if it actually helps your team win. Nick Young had a bag. Nobody cares. Steph has a bag but that shit helps him warp defenses and contributes to winning. Giannis does not need a bag to affect winning. That's the difference.
100%
Doesn’t take away that he doesn’t have a bag..it’s not the end of the world
@@z-mane1438 Shaq didn't have a bag either. Neither did Kareem. Hell Magic didn't either. I don't see anybody bringing up their lack of a bag in conversations. Why only bring it up when talking about Giannis?
@@z-mane1438 you realize your comment is reinforcing his point that having a bag does very little in making a difference when ranking all time players
@@suhailrefaye92 it wasn’t expected for back to basket players from back in the day ..Giannis is a perimeter hybrid big man, although right now he’s gettin away with his athleticism soon he would need a reliable jumpshot
You are never too “far” in your career to improve your game!
"If he had a handle.." Correct that he does have insane handles especially for a big the only big with better handles all time is KD and thats saying a lot!!!! Like people need to stop doing all that also GIANNIS Layup package is sooo underrated like the way he finishes through contact on his layups his flexibilty and dexterity around the rim he is also quite underrated on his acrobatics like come on dont do that!!!!
He don't need to be Melo...Melo been passed 😂😂😂
If Gianna’s isn’t skilled why hasn’t anyone stopped him yet???. If he’s so one directional why haven’t can’t no one stop him . He’s HIMOTHY for reason
Bc the NBA allows offensive players to just run at the defenders nowadays. Get rid of defensive 3 seconds and start calling charges and Giannis is a mid player
@@nydibs so he’s the only player taking advantage of that?.. if that’s the case the whole should be playing like Giannas then.
Colleagues at my job didnt know what the actual positions of basketball were called. For less than casual fans who dont know what 1, 2s and 3s are.
1 - Point Guard (PG)
2 - Shooting Guard (SG)
3 - Small Forward
4 - Power Forward
5 - Center
I'd say what's really interesting is most unicorns and players that don't fit the mold cleanly, usually can play two positions or are widely considered flexible to play many roles. Jokic, Ben Simmons (before he busted), Steph who plays pg is usually called an sg due to how he plays, etc.
Half court Giannis still has a long cross, spin move, crazy euro, and a decent post up cmon saying he has no bag means you don’t know ball
Compared to Kobe, Kyrie, Melo his bag is less than half. Variety doesnt matter tho, just efficiency
@@clutch7548 right over your head huh
@@clutch7548stop it out of all those players Giannis wins more than any of them. Every single one of those players needs multiple stars to win a championship. Giannis don't
@@clutch7548what was Kobe when Shaq left a non playoff team and his best a first round exit team. Let's not forget that. Kobe didn't do nothing until he got Pau Gasol Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum. Giannis never had a Gasol in his prime on his team
@@theetruth8626 Middleton is multiple time allstar.. and the rest of the Bucks played amazing.
Coz people always wanted to see the showtime of the player's skills in every possession. Giannis is like playing the right way. He's playing plain basketball because he's maximizing his length, agility, athleticism and strength which is where he is successful.
I'm disappointed in Melo this take is ridiculous and damn near hating makes me think he has a different motive for this conversation smh go home melo
Why do you feel like he’s hating tho?
Nah he bigged him up.
Foo melo don’t make no sense, Giannis has no skill sha 😒, get u a ring, run 🏃 fast like a guard, and defend all at the same time then we can talk.
He never said no skill he said he’s not a fundamental skill player ..then used curry as an example he literally says what Gianni’s does is a skill in itself and it’s working so he shouldn’t change it . Smh u just looking for something to be mad about
Giannis skills are underrated because he’s not a one trick pony. You can’t highlight one thing.
You exactly what I'm doing, you just cant stop me.
Shaq didn’t have a bag either. 90% of his game was just him being bigger and stronger than pretty much everyone else.
Na this a whole fact is Giannis spent just a hr with melo his offensive game would be unworldly
False Giannis doesn't need that hater
How about Melo should spent time with Giannis and maybe he could actually be a leader and carried his team to a NBA championship
@@theetruth8626man shut up u sound like a bitter woman you don’t know any of these guys and you talking to much
“You can’t be perfect” great point melo
Wish Melo had all of this introspection and basketball insight when he was coming to the end of his career. He could've played longer, possibly when a ring even
This day people want to talk about what someone doesn’t have when before it was about what they do well in order to win. Who gives a f about a bag if you not winning? We have a bunch of people with “bags” that are still losing. If you win playing to your strengths, that’s what matters.
This people are uncover haters playing like they mean good. Giannis and Melo doesn't have a respectful relationship because Melo thought he was going treat Giannis when he was rookie. Giannis bulked up the next season and bullied Melo on the court.
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@@theetruth8626 Exactly. Once Giannis surpassed him it became hate. Even the premise that giannis doesnt have a handle is either from someone who is a HATER or hasnt watched giannis play for a Decade.. .
the man RAN PG and was praised by ISIAH KOBE & MAGIC and JASON KIDD. and you saying he doesnt have a handle melo crazy
@@da11king I'm so sick and tired of these uncover haters saying Giannis don't have a bag when the fact this guy been playing the point guard for Milwaukee dam there his whole career at 7 foot. It been hundreds of 7 footers that came thru the league and none of them was doing what Giannis is doing. If Giannis don't have a bag then what that says for all these cats how got a bag. Because they ain't winning nothing like Giannis yearly. But keeping it real everybody that's elite skilled player has always been underachievers never living up to the expectations they was supposed to. Look at Durant prime example
@@BibbyDaprizonCheekzBandit it's hard to take these haters seriously especially when Giannis destroyed them on the court. Then exposed these cats as diva superstars
So Shaq had no skill?? I didn't know Melo talked nonsense...
U not listening shaq ‘s game didn’t rely on skill and he’ll tell you that himself he’s skilled when he needs to be but his playstyle was brute force and athleticism which is why when he got old he fell off fast af
Steph got the just came back from Black Friday shopping bag, Giannis got that I need to run to the store right quick bag
Giannis with Melo triple threat Mid post work sounds insane 😭😭😭
FACTS!! 😂
remember how skinny kid was? and people wanna talk him down, they must be miserable
No handle but still can get you 5 assist tho
While being a ball dominant player who gets you closer to 6 assists.
if he didnt have a handle how could he survive in the league as a primary ballhandler? Melo either lazy or a hater bro
BK disappointed.
@@BibbyDaprizonCheekzBandit nbs I couldn’t even play Greek Freak like that. He can handle the ball.
@@BibbyDaprizonCheekzBandit it has to do with the lack of personal connection because let’s be real if bron had the same exact play-style has Gianni’s this conversation with melo wouldn’t be the same. 💀 ( even tho Gianni’s has showcased his ball handling skills more often compared to bron.)
That’s a fire jacket Melo 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks melo
A lot of people think Giannis doesn't have a bag and that his skill set should be duplicateable with strength and effort. If that is true, where is DeAndre Ayton. He has the youth, the body, and the strength.
I wonder what happened. He used to bully college players. I guess that level of intensity Giannis has isn't something that people can copy. even if the skills he uses with that intensity are easy to do.
Ayton doesn't have Giannis' coordination at that height, nobody does. Giannis is also more skill in terms of handle and passing. Giannis also has better spacial awareness, which is underrated in basketball.
None of those players are as agile as Giannis. You have to look to players like Wemby, Chet, Jabari Smith Jr to find anything comparable to Giannis’ ability
Deandre Ayton could jump, that’s it
@@nydibs -- I would never put Wemby and Chet in that conversation because it doesn't look like they will ever have the force to do what he does.
Maybe Jabari Smith and Ben Simmons when he cared.
Giannis is just too unique and it is weird because it seems like most of it is sheer will and forcefulness. Weirdly, it is hard to duplicate.
More people are willing to copy Steph than Giannis when one appears on the outside way harder to emulate.
Melo trying to give flowers to giannis while insulting his skill set.Giannis size is not something new in the league ,the way he controls his body ,his handle of the ball and the soft finish at the rim with that size make him special. No hating on you melo but i dont like your take .
Exactly what I’m saying. it’s a reason why Gianni’s doesn’t associate with most of this popular nba player’s or hit the open gym with them. How u gonna say a guy that’s coming down hill he’s hitting spin moves, crossovers, hesi and switching directions with an in and out cross while attacking the rim has no skills. 💀💀💀(only because he struggles with shooting)
How is he insulting him smh y’all soft as charmin smh he literally said his style is a skill in itself . Melo was clearly speaking on fundamental skills that don’t rely on athleticism which is why he compared him to curry who is like 95% fundamental skills
A power-forward like giannis doesn't do a step back from the three-point line and they say that he has no skill. What a bs take. Surely a crossover or a fadeaway is aesthetically pleasing to the eye but to say that giannis has no skill is ridiculous. He is the only one that does euro-step and spin moves consistently and he has tremendous footwork. When he posts he does what he is supposed to do, which is to turn to the basket and leave the ball with a layup or a dunk. This requires footwork and understanding of your surroundings. People just find new ways to hate on him.
Melo! Keep doing with this PODCAST! WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HAS SENSE AND HONEST OPINION SINCE YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY NBA
Nobody is perfect he is elite at everything but shooting
Body co-ordination like Jordan @6-11! Pippen/Kemp Hybid
GIANNIS HAS SOOO MUCH SKILL !!! and this is another reason why European players are dominating the NBA - the casuals and even NBA players care about TALENT and Bags and forget about doing YOUR JOB AND DUTY WELL!! and Giannis has continually shown skill and improvements and doing his job well . I WOULDN'T CHANGE EITHER!!! GIANNIS KEEP DOING YOU and make them know you ain't nothing to play with.. We haven't seen this before.
Never thought id see Mero and Melo together interesting dynamic
He do gotta handle tho.. gotta remember he's 7ft... 7ft ain't supposed to be pushing the break and slashing from the perimeter like that.. KD done spoiled us
That’s what he’s talking about smh everybody got a handle in the nba it’s the nba I seen javale McGee bring the ball down the court a couple time what melo is talking about is clearly the ability to break a defender or lul them to sleep which Giannis doesn’t do
@NACent-fk9wt there's a difference between doing it occasionally or rarely and doing it consistently throughout each game.. we've seen dudes like McGee on shaqtin a fool quite a bit when he tries to do a lil too much..
@@samgunz1 wemby ,bol bol,porzingus,jokic,embiid,KG,anthony davis,boogie cousins etc all 7 footers or at least near that have ran the break consistently and Gianni's played pg and sg for multiple years with a 4 out offense and he was only 6'9 when he came in the league I mean even back in the day wilt and Russell ran the break ,. Gianni's pretty much is plays like Bron did with 2 more inches of height
@NACent-fk9wt I agree.. actually pushing the break tho.. like as the teams primary or secondary ball-handler.. that list shortens.. crazy they really had giannis playing the 1 at one point lol
@4:08 😂🤣Melo funny "he need that... he need... you know [Melo bag]"
It’s crazy i wasn’t a huge Melo fan his whole career but im loving his pod🔥🔥🔥
Don’t give af what nobody say Giannis been my guy for years now the funnest player to use on 2k & everything dude just a dominant specimen
Melo u were the one and only player with a BAG BAG. ive never seen anyone with a bag like urs. U had a bag for every situation and u drilled those moves so much u looked like u were dancing on the floor. U was doing a ballet on them nggas. U the most beautiful player i ever seen.
Giannis bag is crazy his euro step and drop step spin is brazy and it’s comin at 100 mph
Ngl if Giannis started working with Melo that shit would be 🔥
People are talking about his ball handling skill at his height. Since when height has anything to do with how you handle the rock. I never understood that!!!