Why Max's Red Bull Caught Fire in Australia

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
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    So Max has been robbed 38 points in three races, with two DNFs due to engine issues. And it’s not just max, in Bahrain Checo had an engine-induced Sbinala and Gasly’s car also got pretty toasty.
    So are all of these issues linked? Or is the Australia DNF a new issue? 2022 Australian Grand Prix
    Let’s get into it.
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    First then, the issue in Bahrain was said to be a Fuel Lock, that was brought on by the late Safety car.
    Now, if you’ve worked on older cars you will know why this happens. It’s essentially where vapour (either fuel vapour or air) get trapped in the fuel system. And very often this can completely block the fuel lines - which caused Max and Checo’s engines to stop during the Bahrain Grand Prix.
    We expect to be down to the E10 fuel in these new cars - rather than a leaky pipe which typically what causes the same issue on older cars.
    And the E10 fuel really seems to be creating some issues for Red Bull powertrains. But really, it should be something they could fix pretty quickly - and when Max won in Saudi - we thought they had.
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  • @DavidNancyTom
    @DavidNancyTom Před 2 lety +618

    I like the change in editing - having Scarbs up in the corner with other footage behind

    • @ultimatederp5069
      @ultimatederp5069 Před 2 lety +24

      It's definitely an improvement but his mic quality is still bad.

    • @andrewmeadows2596
      @andrewmeadows2596 Před 2 lety +4

      I like crisps.

    • @derekzamzow1338
      @derekzamzow1338 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed!

    • @gallolibre3815
      @gallolibre3815 Před 2 lety

      If it was the exact same problem from the last time I would be worried. If it’s slightly different then once they eliminate issues one by one they can press on. Nothing is for certain in f1 .Ferrari can crash like every one else and give back points.

    • @cramirez318
      @cramirez318 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ultimatederp5069 I enjoy listening to his potato quality mic 😂😂😂

  • @shadow7037932
    @shadow7037932 Před 2 lety +362

    E85 has been used in things like Pikes Peak Hill climb cars I believe. So I have a hard time imagining an F1 team missed the memo on Ethanol not playing nice with seals/o-rings.

    • @ed3192
      @ed3192 Před 2 lety +21

      it's only 10% they're using, not full e85 mix.

    • @theruckinmaul1460
      @theruckinmaul1460 Před 2 lety +41

      100%. I highly doubt E10 is the caused of this. if it is yes, then it is their ignorance that cause this, not the fuel itself.

    • @AP_Sim
      @AP_Sim Před 2 lety +1

      E 10 has been in our cars for years
      I've converted cars to e85 eith put ever having a problem. Thinking these guy are running into the 10 percent of corn in the tanks is eating seals.dont believe it.

    • @shadow7037932
      @shadow7037932 Před 2 lety +23

      @@ed3192 right. That's my point. Even E10 can damage orings. And I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T know that Ethanol damages things. That would be a very amateur mistake I don't see a top tier F1 team making.

    • @captaintoet1983
      @captaintoet1983 Před 2 lety

      @@shadow7037932 I mean it's quite known that you must be able to provide a 1Litre fuel sample at the end of a session yet sometimes teams/drivers mess up

  • @rotnbazturd7569
    @rotnbazturd7569 Před 2 lety +388

    Had this problem when ethanol first come out, it would dry and degrade the rubber seals and hoses in fuel system and cause leaks and debris that clogged the injectors.

    • @rhyswilliams4893
      @rhyswilliams4893 Před 2 lety +14

      Surely they dint run parts like that for long enough to cause that sort of issues

    • @gewoontimm
      @gewoontimm Před 2 lety +5

      @@rhyswilliams4893 they could've used metal or copper lines as fuellines.. put some fittings on that.. that small hose looks like it has plastic or hard rubber compound in it as they say its flexible...

    • @foxman105
      @foxman105 Před 2 lety +24

      that's actually still a problem in Europe where you have premium fuel for cars that can't handle it. Pre 200....4? European cars didn't require to be compatible with E10, and E10 wasn't that common back then. Most Gas stations had no ethanol content gasoline.
      They kinda screwed us over here with that because it's harder to keep the older cars that are worth keeping on the road alive. You often have to order parts from US counterparts or get a custom E10 compatible one.

    • @TotoGeenen
      @TotoGeenen Před 2 lety +8

      @@foxman105 european here. Can confirm. Forced to buy 98 (Has a maximum of 5% ethanol. A lot of gas station's 98 has 0% ethanol) for my 1998 Citroen. It knocks below 2000rpm on regular. I'm assuming because it's running to lean on E10.

    • @mountaingoat595
      @mountaingoat595 Před 2 lety +18

      @@TotoGeenen e10 shouldn't be a huge issue for these f1 power units, engineers should have been able to plan for this. Doubt the fuel itself is the problem

  • @tombystander
    @tombystander Před 2 lety +342

    Red bulls pissing away a constructor/driver championships down the drain at this rate. Would be crazy to see checo be the red bull fighting this year

    • @leolisdoublbrenker6807
      @leolisdoublbrenker6807 Před 2 lety +45

      That would be great if checo fights for the championship but only if redbull get their shit together

    • @stemartin6671
      @stemartin6671 Před 2 lety +40

      Mexican Tom Cruise on the job mate

    • @sal3060
      @sal3060 Před 2 lety +13

      It would also be awesome to see Checo doing the fighting.

    • @Yahniboy
      @Yahniboy Před 2 lety +5

      If Bahrain was one or two laps less, Perez would have a nice lead over Verstappen but unfortunately Verstappen is RedBull’s golden boy

    • @alejandroquinones3636
      @alejandroquinones3636 Před 2 lety +10

      I mean if max’s car keeps on shitting himself sure. Otherwise Max is clear

  • @bwayobrian3381
    @bwayobrian3381 Před 2 lety +147

    Redbull surely need to get on top of their reliabilty issues as fast as possìble since history shows championships arent retained with unreliabilty in whatever aspect of the sport

    • @Shifftee
      @Shifftee Před 2 lety +8

      "Reliability is so important" - Lewis Hamilton

    • @MindfulnessGamer
      @MindfulnessGamer Před 2 lety +16

      Exactly, Kimi Raikkonen would have been a world champion at McLaren if the reliability didn’t let him down. Same with Hamilton in 2016

    • @TrickyTree84
      @TrickyTree84 Před 2 lety +7

      They don't have a championship to retain.

    • @jimbrown7196
      @jimbrown7196 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TrickyTree84 Concise and easy to miss. Nice one, well said.

    • @chrisbraid2907
      @chrisbraid2907 Před 2 lety

      Why not Just let Ferrari Dominate, it’s about time that they were up there again …

  • @BubbaSmurft
    @BubbaSmurft Před 2 lety +59

    Vapour lock is where the liquid fuel in the line is heated enough to turn to a gas and starve the engine, NOT whatever you said.

    • @ed3192
      @ed3192 Před 2 lety +6

      The engine was starved of fuel, technically he is right lol and up to what extent does E fuel evaporates compared to the fuel they would normally use? Do you know the characteristics of both? I have no clue.

    • @BubbaSmurft
      @BubbaSmurft Před 2 lety +4

      @@ed3192 Alcohol evaporates at a far lower temp' than gasoline (a term I use very loosely for the fuel in a F1 car) and therefore greatly exacerbates the issue. That's what they (Sky) were talking aboot during the first race when they were describing the parts of the fuel system that were homologated for all the teams and their placement and that the Hon...RedBulls were experienceing it far more than others and that's why they (FIA) allowed the cars in parc ferme to make changes.

    • @TrevorDennis100
      @TrevorDennis100 Před 2 lety +5

      I did some work on vapour lock way way back on the MkII Cortina. I was at Ford Research, but we used the Shell facility at Thornton. We ended up using a water trap on the inner wing (fender) to cool the fuel, but if memory serves (this was a very long time ago) the problem was mostly due to a mechanical fuel pump that sucked the fuel. When we moved to electric pumps that pressurised the lines all the way from the tank to the carb (no injection back then), then vapour lock was never a problem AFAIK.

    • @spacemanmat
      @spacemanmat Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrevorDennis100 most high pressure systems have a relief valve somewhere after the pump, which results in the excess unpressurised fuel returning to the tank. This keeps fuel in the pump cool and very unlikely to turn to vapour. The pressurised fuel also is less likely to turn to vapour because it’s under pressure and even if it did the pump would still function and expel the vapour, which may cause some momentary loss of power. The big issue with a vapour lock is when it gets in the pump as they are not effective at pumping gasses.

  • @nicholastotoro7721
    @nicholastotoro7721 Před 2 lety +191

    I had an oddball feeling the lack of Honda in “Honda” would cause issues.

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 Před 2 lety +13

      Didn't a lot of the Honda guys stay on as RBPTs anyway

    • @DF-et4gs
      @DF-et4gs Před 2 lety

      @@MeltingRubberZ28 That was also my impression of RBR taking over the division and IP.
      That being said it looks terrible, however not a surprise for a new-ish venture.

    • @andyf1210
      @andyf1210 Před 2 lety +20

      Honda is still contracted to build and maintain the engines

    • @woofy9977
      @woofy9977 Před 2 lety +21

      you guys keep saying this when nothing has changed just re-badged. made in Japan. Japanese engineers etc

    • @thes7754
      @thes7754 Před 2 lety +3

      it is not like Honda was that great before 2021

  • @christianorsa
    @christianorsa Před 2 lety +43

    RB needs to get it together asap - hopefully they can with Checo also being very competitive now

  • @laffinarab
    @laffinarab Před 2 lety +51

    The bit that makes me think a fuel leak is bs was Max's comment after he pulled in.
    Said he smelled weird fluid. Fuel is pretty unmistakable so my guess is hydraulics or coolant or some sort

    • @Cataclysm1
      @Cataclysm1 Před 2 lety +18

      Agreed. You can have a hydraulic leak and still have functioning equipment - not all leaks cause full loss of pressure, as is implied in the video.

    • @laffinarab
      @laffinarab Před 2 lety +1

      @@Cataclysm1 yeah for sure. It seemed a bit presumptuous to rule it out because his gears and brakes were ok.

    • @ankit99ize
      @ankit99ize Před 2 lety +3

      E10 fuel smells different from the non ethanol fuel, maybe that was the reason he said 'weird smell'.

    • @Cataclysm1
      @Cataclysm1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ankit99ize no.

    • @iNanieke
      @iNanieke Před 2 lety

      Good point

  • @britishrose9417
    @britishrose9417 Před 2 lety +28

    Doesn't fill you with a lot of confidence when you get in a car thinking it may or may not catch fire at some point.

    • @SomeYouTubeGuy
      @SomeYouTubeGuy Před 2 lety +1

      Fires that don't involve punching through guardrails are all relatively easily dealt with. The driver has time to stop and exit the vehicle before it gets overly concerning.

  • @drnerd
    @drnerd Před 2 lety +65

    I would love to hear Scott's take on that daft Latifi/Stroll quali crash!

    • @KayJblue
      @KayJblue Před 2 lety +12

      “THE REAL REASON WHY STROLL AND LATIFI CRASHED”
      *References some driver statements, comes to the obvious conclusion, make sure to like and video and subscribe!*

    • @tigerrx7
      @tigerrx7 Před 2 lety +6

      You answered it - it was daft by two of the grid’s most useless drivers

    • @stratman9449
      @stratman9449 Před 2 lety

      well we all saw rthat happen....no secrets there....:-)

    • @jameshomepro6974
      @jameshomepro6974 Před 2 lety

      Joylon might to something on it. Wednesday i think his videos come out on F1tv and rhe shirt version on CZcams.

    • @mohammadchegini57
      @mohammadchegini57 Před 2 lety +2

      Well they went motor racing

  • @andrigtmiller
    @andrigtmiller Před 2 lety +57

    It makes me wonder if the fuel Red Bull are using is more corrosive than what others teams are using, and the materials that seal these components are being damaged over time from the fuel.

    • @Sir.Craze-
      @Sir.Craze- Před 2 lety +4

      I'm nearly positive it's all the exact same fuel from the same place.

    • @leolisdoublbrenker6807
      @leolisdoublbrenker6807 Před 2 lety +35

      @@Sir.Craze- no its not the same fuel source mercedes get theirs from patronas ferrari from shell and aston martin from aramco dont know about redbull and others tho

    • @gewoontimm
      @gewoontimm Před 2 lety +1

      The rules say that the E10 fuel they run needs to be the same as what you and i can get from the local petrolstation..

    • @gogox98
      @gogox98 Před 2 lety +22

      @@gewoontimm the E10 is not the same in every station as they have different providers

    • @MFizzle777
      @MFizzle777 Před 2 lety +24

      @@leolisdoublbrenker6807 RedBull is Esso and McLaren is Gulf.

  • @LorenzoGiannetti
    @LorenzoGiannetti Před 2 lety +58

    Leclerc was doing fastest laps one after the other, after a while Verstappen tried doing a fastest lap, that didn't last long, and BANG.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      Max only matched speed to keep the distance between them te same. His car became lighter with less fuel just as Charles' car. He wanted to keep the gap small enough to not give Charles a free pitstop. Thats normal racing tactic. That it became a fastest lap, that was with a very small margin. He didnt go for the fastest lap. That had no use at that point in the race

  • @totalhydration5240
    @totalhydration5240 Před 2 lety +18

    Scott straight up said s🅱️inalla.

  • @hattorihonzo8340
    @hattorihonzo8340 Před 2 lety +2

    As a Red Bull fan it’s a bummer losing out on so many points, but also comforting to know these are not fundamental gearbox/combustion engine failures and seem like they just need to improve some small parts

  • @E34bmer
    @E34bmer Před 2 lety

    Another great video, love hearing the details, keep it coming!

  • @GallactusF1
    @GallactusF1 Před 2 lety +4

    "Engine induced S🅱️inalla"
    Nice one!

  • @unloat1133
    @unloat1133 Před 2 lety +8

    I also think hydraulics aren't an issue in this because in Q3 Alonso lost control because of hydraulic issues and couldn't switch gears while Max could steer and put the car in neutral (If I'm not wrong)

    • @andrasudra6756
      @andrasudra6756 Před 2 lety

      gearbox isn't the only thing that using hydraulic systems

  • @christophernoto
    @christophernoto Před 2 lety

    Excellent analysis, well presented both verbally and graphically. Many thanks for what you are doing!

  • @raymonschepers994
    @raymonschepers994 Před 2 lety

    thanks for clearing up again what have seem to be the exact issue with the Red-Bull RB18 car driven by Max Verstappen's causing a lot more then only (respectably) Max his 2nd DNF of the season apparently. You guys do an amazing job in deep researching time on time, car brand and then some. CZcams's F1 section simply has no better crew that are just as evenly capable, no kidding! Keep up the good work, so much gratefully respect from the Netherlands

  • @DougSharpe
    @DougSharpe Před 2 lety +8

    Loving the up in production quality recently. Got the other guy filling in for some videos
    Scarb’s insight is so incredible and really helps get you inside the car; truly understanding how these beasts work.
    Hopefully F1 can give you footage rights soon so you can play some proper video.
    The whole team at driver61 is doing a great job and we, the viewer, notice and appreciate it.
    Keep up the good work

  • @Redskies453
    @Redskies453 Před 2 lety +3

    Great addition bringing Heston Blumenthal on board.

  • @DavidOwensuk
    @DavidOwensuk Před 2 lety +1

    Love the level of analysis, thank you for sharing…

  • @Max.44
    @Max.44 Před 2 lety +2

    Highest quality F1 content out there!
    Great job

  • @GonzoDonzo
    @GonzoDonzo Před 2 lety +221

    Its much bigger. This is masi's revenge. Hes lurking in the paddock sabotaging Max and Lewis's car for getting him fired ;)

    • @plavyn
      @plavyn Před 2 lety +35

      Nah, it’s the curse of the “1” car number

    • @andrewmelton2686
      @andrewmelton2686 Před 2 lety +33

      It's karma

    • @KiRaPaRk44
      @KiRaPaRk44 Před 2 lety +27

      This what he get for become the FAKE "world champion"

    • @quantum_inferno
      @quantum_inferno Před 2 lety

      @@KiRaPaRk44 exactly. Fake people never prosper

    • @nakedsnake_
      @nakedsnake_ Před 2 lety +25

      @@andrewmelton2686 cry

  • @robbip
    @robbip Před 2 lety +4

    When Perez asked about Max's problem, he was told he shouldnt be worried about that, maybe meaning his car is not affected by that issue, and neither of the alpha tauri engines were problematic in Australia.

    • @cosmikrelic4815
      @cosmikrelic4815 Před 2 lety

      i think they didn't want perez to be bothered with someone else's problem and for him to focus on his job not max's.

    • @conflict-tv
      @conflict-tv Před 2 lety +1

      Nah they didn’t want to distract Perez by worrying him during race that his car might fall to the same issue. Good call for them to not say what happened and let him focus. It’s likely both RB cars are of similar setup, but Perez seems to be managing tires/car itself much better. Verstappen has complained every single race so far about tire deg & balance where Checo seems to have managed it. Bit weird that MV’s car is drastically more unreliable, though. Makes me think they’re sacrificing more reliability in the fuel injection area for pace. Things just seem turned up a notch on Verstappen’s car but ultimately less reliable.

  • @muhammadluqmankhan08
    @muhammadluqmankhan08 Před 2 lety +3

    Scarbs is running almost all of F1 related CZcams channels

  • @kerongranger2229
    @kerongranger2229 Před 2 lety

    Really liking the new editing format

  • @jasonwilkinson5335
    @jasonwilkinson5335 Před 2 lety +5

    I was at turn 11 for the race and the last time he came past he either locked the rears or made a mistake and he had a moment, but it looked like he kept it on track. I even messaged my mates saying did they see that on tv and by the time I sent it he was stopped at turn 2.

  • @EFUwazurike
    @EFUwazurike Před 2 lety +12

    I call it the curse of putting the number 1 on your car and wearing gold boots

  • @HeinserTorres
    @HeinserTorres Před 2 lety

    Great video keep it up!

  • @westcoasthype619
    @westcoasthype619 Před 2 lety +2

    He jinxed himself with that no.1

  • @thecentre-leftisdying.y8814

    Did he just say the had a fucking s🅱️inalla?! Hahahaha fucking legend

    • @iPaoletti
      @iPaoletti Před 2 lety +1

      Yup but it's s🅱️innala, double n and just one l.
      Source: I'm italian

    • @jovanka---------2737
      @jovanka---------2737 Před 2 lety

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  • @kgeaswaran
    @kgeaswaran Před 2 lety +6

    If they don't fix it, they can forget winning WDC or WCC. Only they can do is delay Mercedes vs Ferrari fight

    • @anonymousarmadillo6589
      @anonymousarmadillo6589 Před 2 lety

      Merc isn't in the title fight this year.

    • @kgeaswaran
      @kgeaswaran Před 2 lety

      @@anonymousarmadillo6589 Yet they are P2 now and with upgrades, can fight

  • @H0urg1ass
    @H0urg1ass Před 2 lety

    One of the best parts about changing the formula is seeing some teams get these things right and some teams get them wrong.

  • @IanStatiusMuller
    @IanStatiusMuller Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video, but all based on speculation. I thought that Max had a hydraulic leak somewhere wich they tried to fix before the race but couldnt cause it was to hard to reach. My guess is they topped off the reservoir hoping it would be enough to make it trough the race without a terminal loss of fluid and thus pressure... but eventualy the leaking fluid found it's way to the hotter parts of the engine bay and caught fire. But like the video, this theory is purely based on speculation. Would be fun to make a hand full of these video's on probable causes of Max's retirement!? Anyhow.. let's hope they get on top of the issue sooner than later. Looking forward to Max taking the fight up to Charles!

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 Před 2 lety +8

    one of the merc engeneers has already said that the new Fuel including E10 is causing them real difficulties.....and that will be for all teams the case...would also explain the lack of power of the merc works and customer teams PUs....maybe Ferrari have found some "interesting" different E10 fuel thanks to shell....:-)
    their cars were extremely fast the year before they were "punished" for one season.....

  • @jimomertz
    @jimomertz Před 2 lety +12

    But what about Max’s comment of “I smell some kind of weird fluid”. 🤔 That wouldn’t be fuel.

    • @medipeace307
      @medipeace307 Před 2 lety

      u smell vapours not the fuel itself .

    • @stemartin6671
      @stemartin6671 Před 2 lety +2

      The e10 stuff does smell weird especially if you're used to smelling 110

    • @sushimidnight9539
      @sushimidnight9539 Před 2 lety

      @@medipeace307 you seem fun at parties

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      He said that on purpose to not give any info to outsiders. Nobody but themselves need to know

    • @sushimidnight9539
      @sushimidnight9539 Před 2 lety

      @@gealingeman8643 you think he purposely told his team the wrong things for “security”

  • @projetovelocidade
    @projetovelocidade Před 2 lety

    E100 has been used in Brazil both for road cars (since the early 70's) and race cars (nearly for so long - check Endurance Brasil, they run anything from gasoline to E100 on 4-6 hours races). I really don't believe E10 would be an issue, unless they missed completely the point of Ethanol. DI could bring unforessen issues, but Bosch and Marelli have quite some expertise on these with E100 as well.

  • @86STi
    @86STi Před 2 lety

    Love the painted brick!!! What shade of black is it!? Great video also :)

  • @dukesilver7202
    @dukesilver7202 Před 2 lety +22

    I expect to see a lot of Fire Marshall Max on the track this season.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      Why? Checo's car was fine in Melbourne. So Max' car can be the same

    • @jamespoole3531
      @jamespoole3531 Před 2 lety

      @@gealingeman8643 because at separate points in this season (which is only three races so far) all of the RBPT cars have broken down. It would be fairly illogical to assume it won’t happen again.

  • @Sgranfius
    @Sgranfius Před 2 lety +10

    New fuel smell like a “weird fluid”?
    “I smell some weird fluid” - Team radio by Max Verstappen.

    • @dsofe4879
      @dsofe4879 Před 2 lety +6

      I was thinking the same. Surely Max would recognize the smell of fuel and report a fuel leak instead.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      He didnt say what he smelled on purpose. Not everyone needs to know that info

  • @draganluzija3823
    @draganluzija3823 Před 2 lety +5

    Don't forget that Yuki didn't start race in Jeddah because of engine problem

    • @available7525
      @available7525 Před 2 lety +1

      Nope it was a sensor failure in the oil pressure system. Just a factory bug

  • @kwl189
    @kwl189 Před 2 lety +1

    Too many people are over blowing the RB issues. It’s a 23 GP championship. We’re only on race 3.

  • @oscaracme
    @oscaracme Před 2 lety +37

    seems more like a "problem" than an "issue"

    • @Sneka97
      @Sneka97 Před 2 lety +7

      I'm not a native english speaker, what's the difference?

    • @-_-Michael
      @-_-Michael Před 2 lety

      @@Sneka97 don’t mind him, he probably has his own pronouns like ze or zim.

    • @Mexxx65
      @Mexxx65 Před 2 lety

      Design problem. You're on point!

    • @cdw2468
      @cdw2468 Před 2 lety +5

      @@-_-Michael you just had to shoehorn pronouns in, huh?

  • @Graffititude
    @Graffititude Před 2 lety +4

    From my perspective this is very suspicious. Red Bull’s team has a lot of experience and I’m sure they thought of certain things ahead of time, which is why this is all very surprising to me. I cannot help to think that they’re trying to do something “different” with getting fuel from the tank to the engine so that it has a slight performance advantage. Just a hunch though.

    • @b3at2
      @b3at2 Před 2 lety

      its the FIA introducing these new cars.,. you see in F1 changes are meant to keep things entertaining…. so yes, if you are champion… the new rules and cars are meant to work against you.

  • @bojanmajic
    @bojanmajic Před 2 lety +1

    Soooo F1 took the "Sir Miles Axlerod" way of "fuel for the future"....E10 seems to be the new Allinol xD the resemblance is staggering xD

  • @timjohnson6148
    @timjohnson6148 Před 2 lety +2

    No way was that a fuel fire, the burn was far too slow,

  • @drnerd
    @drnerd Před 2 lety +4

    Oh Red bull, what's going on guys!?!?

  • @Brayooyo
    @Brayooyo Před 2 lety +6

    Ex MERC engineers 👨‍💻 doing their internal sabotage jobs well 😁😁😁

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      By now you should know that the former Merc crew are working at the new RBPT factory they're building for the 2026 engine. They're not working on the current Honda engine or current car. Everyone knows this by now.

  • @mah_daddy
    @mah_daddy Před 2 lety +2

    People complaining about RBPT. Mtf don't even realise they're in a developing process. Every dnf, reliability issues is pretty important learning for them at this stage

    • @josuke6131
      @josuke6131 Před 2 lety

      Welp, people just wanted to see great results immediately. What do you expect? 😂

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      Its not a RBPT engine!! Its the HONDA engine till 2026! After that it will be the RBPT engine

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      @@josuke6131 its still the HONDA engine till 2026.

    • @josuke6131
      @josuke6131 Před 2 lety

      @@gealingeman8643 yeah I know, it's just a renamed Honda engine. Honda still makes the engine but it's under the RBPT name

  • @MJTAUTOMOTIVE
    @MJTAUTOMOTIVE Před 2 lety

    I would say it was a Fuel leak but not on that small external pipe. I think it is a internal leak within the multiple pumps and pipework inside the tank. The fire was a issue of stopping a very hot race car suddenly. Without air flow and how tight the bodywork is wrapped around the engine and hot turbo and exhaust I think it was part of the body work or ducting etc is what caught fire. If the fuel leak was large enough to make the engine have a dramatic loss in power and they could see it on the telemetry, There would have been fuel spraying everywhere and the whole rear of the car would have gone up in flames.

  • @aledjonesccc
    @aledjonesccc Před 2 lety +3

    The fuel connection pictured are on/off. I've a hard time believing thay would 'seep' fuel. 100% speculation by Scarbs not fact.

  • @Svally
    @Svally Před 2 lety +5

    Red bull powertrains caught lacking

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Před 2 lety

      Not powertrains fault.

  • @stevenst6337
    @stevenst6337 Před 2 lety +1

    I think it will be a problem that can be solved. I think the new regs are just catching them off guard and some of the new bits are giving them problems lots of other teams have already faced and solved. I’d imagine by end of the season they’ll have a good handle on their cars problems but I bet more issues will occur over the season.

  • @dutchpy1
    @dutchpy1 Před 2 lety

    Great info!

  • @richardbudd5334
    @richardbudd5334 Před 2 lety +3

    When E10 came out in the US millions of small engines were ruined over the first winter by alcohol separating out and absorbing water.

  • @timjohnun4297
    @timjohnun4297 Před 2 lety +3

    Somehow I think with all the might of Honda and RedBull, and all the engineers they poached from Mercedes, they wouldn’t have been caught out by something as simple as ethanol compatibility. If they were, they are seriously over-paid 🤣

    • @johnking9942
      @johnking9942 Před 2 lety

      It might be temperature related and they are burning up the high pressure pump through cavitation.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      The former Merc crew arent working on the current car/engine. They're working in the new RBPT factory RB is setting up for the 2026 specs. They're nowhere near the current car 😊

  • @foxman105
    @foxman105 Před 2 lety +1

    The fact that he was pointing where the marshals should spay was a bit of gallows humour. "Over here, guys."

  • @RastadasPT
    @RastadasPT Před 2 lety

    Great explanation.

  • @Super_Black1
    @Super_Black1 Před 2 lety +4

    Damn, Allinoil creating excess fuel vapor.
    That could be easily ignited by, oh idk, an IR beam disguised as a camera...

  • @theflyingchillipepper
    @theflyingchillipepper Před 2 lety +3

    It’s karma for the last race last season…. Long may it continue

    • @trevrice436
      @trevrice436 Před 2 lety

      Lol,Yeah a DNF every race for the cheater verstapen would be great 👍

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      @@trevrice436 Max didnt cheat, as you well know. He simply drove to the finish, just as Lewis said. 'Max didnt do anything wrong. Im not mad at Max. Im mad at the race director'.

  • @c0rmster
    @c0rmster Před 2 lety

    Scarbs knows his stuff. Congrats on 500k views of this video!

  • @DarrylHart
    @DarrylHart Před 2 lety +1

    LeClerc forced VerCrashen into a DNF. Charles was banging in fastest lap after fastest lap, Max tried to match him then bye bye.

  • @Huwstogood
    @Huwstogood Před 2 lety +6

    Red bulls engine making hasn’t gone well😳

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Před 2 lety +1

      They weren't PU issues, fuel system issues.

    • @MrDazTroyer
      @MrDazTroyer Před 2 lety

      It's still a Honda power unit.

  • @EnterScreenameHere
    @EnterScreenameHere Před 2 lety +4

    It’s odd that the team hasn’t made a fix to this after testing and witnessing it at the first race.

    • @woofy9977
      @woofy9977 Před 2 lety +7

      it's odd you think they haven't been troubleshooting since it first occurred. it's like me saying it's odd that Merc hasn't fixed their porpoising when obviously it's a work in progress

  • @german-argentine-socialist

    my man's editor is absolutely CRUSHING the highlights on the color edit (seriously these videos have zero highlights please recalibrate your monitor and set it to default brightness and contrast)

  • @gregmiller7123
    @gregmiller7123 Před 2 lety +1

    My guess is that since ethanol is corn-based, that Red Bull isn't straining their fuel enough and pieces of corn cob are clogging the system! 🙃Or maybe not!

  • @MrDufDaddy
    @MrDufDaddy Před 2 lety +8

    So we're disregarding that Max said he smell oil and shut things down himself? I can't say that I've smelled this E10 but gas still smells like gas and not like burning oil.

    • @fridaytwilight
      @fridaytwilight Před 2 lety +1

      It could also be a very loose statement from max in that he just smelled something burning and said oil. With most of it blowing behind him he may not have been able to tell immediately what it was.

    • @MrDufDaddy
      @MrDufDaddy Před 2 lety +1

      @@fridaytwilight I rewatched the broadcast and he said, something smelled "weird" not oil, so my bad there. It makes your point more plausible.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      @@fridaytwilight Max said 'FLUID' not oil. And he did that on purpose cos nobody but the team needs to know what it is

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      He said he smelled Fluid

  • @donaldmoser212
    @donaldmoser212 Před 2 lety +3

    I need help on why the fuel change would wreck havoc with Max's car when this fuel has been around for years.

    • @GMMephisto
      @GMMephisto Před 2 lety +2

      The change could have made their fuel more corrosive. And shit can destroy some small components and degrade ruber seals and hoses. Small rubber debris resulting of the corrosion can clog the fuel injection valves and cause a lot of trouble. In Brasil the gasoline for normal cars has a lot of ethanol on it, thats why the car manufacturers has brasilian versions of their engines.

    • @Grzz51
      @Grzz51 Před 2 lety

      Hasn't Indycar been using pure alcohol for years with none of these problems?

  • @nite82hawk
    @nite82hawk Před 2 lety +1

    This is like the real life plot of Cars 2.

  • @DavidWilliams-hv7so
    @DavidWilliams-hv7so Před 2 lety

    Red Bulls issue this weekend with the E10 fuel. It did a job on the seals . As for Mercedes they still need to take the arch out of there front wing. If you look at Ferrari and Red bull the the fourth blade on the front wing is flatter than Mercedes. And after Australia its not there rear wing. Redesign the front wing by making all the arches in it flater

  • @randygravel2057
    @randygravel2057 Před 2 lety +3

    Long Beach GP was great.

  • @woofy9977
    @woofy9977 Před 2 lety +10

    what makes it so much worse is Max was in 2nd both times he's dnf'd :( andd he's finished 1st in all races he's finished :)

    • @Ricky26uk
      @Ricky26uk Před 2 lety +3

      You mean better....... Loooooool

    • @woofy9977
      @woofy9977 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Ricky26uk only lewis' toxic fans think like this. real race fans want all the teams incl merc doing well so we can see epic battles

    • @OmegaF77
      @OmegaF77 Před 2 lety +1

      As a Lewis fan I was shocked with RedBull's issues. Honda having reliability issues as opposed to Merc is sadly ironic.

    • @Ricky26uk
      @Ricky26uk Před 2 lety +3

      @@woofy9977 I'm all for teams going all out for great battles but I can't stand horner and max the way the kid speaks on the radio to his race engineer when things don't go "max's" way is shocking. He's like a spoilt child and his driving is style proves this. Leclerc for the championship....... 😎🙏🇮🇩

    • @MrDufDaddy
      @MrDufDaddy Před 2 lety +3

      it's robbing us of what could be an epic Constructors race. The two teams would be all but level right now if weren't for those gremlins.

  • @martyncompton9572
    @martyncompton9572 Před 2 lety

    Fuel cell loom replacement? Could they have possibly have moved the fuel supply hose as a consequence, likely fire had already ignited and hydraulic oil and hose compound burning was the smell Verstappen could smell. Possibly the area within the cowling is running at higher temperatures this year, noted Hamilton complaining about high temperatures meaning he had to back off. Maybe in the effort to improve aero across the field they have sacrificed engine compartment cooling.

  • @MrSilverfish12
    @MrSilverfish12 Před 2 lety

    🤣 That s🅱️inalla caught me off guard......well done!

  • @YellowLight259
    @YellowLight259 Před 2 lety +13

    So the REAL REASON is a guess from a third party telling "it's PROBABLE that it's that part" and not a reliable info coming from Red Bull? Alright... Please stop click baiting, you're better than this

    • @ASJC27
      @ASJC27 Před 2 lety +4

      They should stop click baiting, but they're not better than this unfortunately. Pretty much every video has a click bait title, and every minor technical detail on any F1 car is apparently a genius move. Oh, and did you not hear that apparently Ayrton Senna's driving style wouldn't work today?

    • @dovercomer.2748
      @dovercomer.2748 Před 2 lety +1

      Haha isn’t that how major F1 CZcams or news outlets are today?

  • @izmael_kneafcy
    @izmael_kneafcy Před 2 lety +3

    Red Bull power trains. Great start guys.

    • @rhyswilliams4893
      @rhyswilliams4893 Před 2 lety

      It's still Honda building and maintaining them at the moment

    • @izmael_kneafcy
      @izmael_kneafcy Před 2 lety

      @@rhyswilliams4893 The clue is in the name. Red Bull power trains. Red Bull have acquired and taken over the building of the Honda power unit through intellectual property. It seems to be going well for Red Bull and Alpha Tauri.

    • @rhyswilliams4893
      @rhyswilliams4893 Před 2 lety

      @@izmael_kneafcy they are built by Honda in Japan. Just bagde red bull atm.

    • @rhyswilliams4893
      @rhyswilliams4893 Před 2 lety

      @@izmael_kneafcy they are being built by Honda until 25.

  • @tiredoldmechanic1791
    @tiredoldmechanic1791 Před 2 lety

    At the fuel pressures they run in these injection systems, 10 Bar is 145 psi and 500 Bar or 7,000 psi, there shouldn't be any vapor locking problems. Old cars had vapor locking problems because they ran 3 to 6 psi fuel pressure from the pump to the carburetor and a vacuum from the tank to the pump.

  • @Chuck59ish
    @Chuck59ish Před 2 lety

    Like they said Early Sunday morning, like 2 am ADT when they race was live where I live, they won't know until they get the car unloaded on Tuesday, after the flight today from the Land of Oz.

  • @David.Midgley
    @David.Midgley Před 2 lety +11

    My heart bleeds for Max !🥸

  • @nakedsnake_
    @nakedsnake_ Před 2 lety +17

    To all the people saying this is karma: how brain-dead are you, really?
    Max didn't crash Latifi, Latifi crashed Latifi. Red bull took the opportunity to pit and they won.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 2 lety

      Karma because luck cuts both ways

    • @omarid8736
      @omarid8736 Před 2 lety +1

      So you really not going to mention anything about Masi and his human error?

    • @driasalta4834
      @driasalta4834 Před 2 lety +6

      Also Perez Kept Hamilton behind for so long in the race with older tires for Max to close a 6 second gap, but Hamilton could not keep Max behind for 3 corners.

    • @jameshomepro6974
      @jameshomepro6974 Před 2 lety +9

      @@omarid8736 happens in all sports. What's the point.
      Merc had 2 , yes fuxking 2 chances to pit Lewis. They didn't. It cost them.
      Merc made more mistakes last year then the last 3 years combined
      They lost.

    • @omarid8736
      @omarid8736 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jameshomepro6974 Calm down guy, my comment was a response to him blaming Latifi for the outcome of the WDC. And by the way, Mercedes did in fact win the Constructor’s Championship. But yes they did make loads of mistakes. See how I did that without calling you a clown?

  • @eliotmansfield
    @eliotmansfield Před 2 lety

    ‘we speculate why max’s car stopped’ would be a more appropriate non clickbait title

  • @vladsnape6408
    @vladsnape6408 Před 2 lety

    If fuel vapour can stop the fuel lines from working, why isn't there some sort of switch/valve available that can be used to flush/fill the fuel lines with fuel in such cases?

  • @docmccoy9813
    @docmccoy9813 Před 2 lety +5

    What a great job Ferrari has done: fast and reliable!

  • @Yahniboy
    @Yahniboy Před 2 lety +3

    Sabotage by one of the ex Mercedes technicians they hired over the season. Why is it only RedBull getting caught out by this issue

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      The former Merc engineers work in the RBPT factory on the 2026 engine. Not on the current Honda engine

  • @batuksri
    @batuksri Před 2 lety +1

    The issues are related to the catchy Culture Club song about a chameleon.

  • @sjoervanderploeg4340
    @sjoervanderploeg4340 Před 2 lety

    Vacuum and fuel lock are not the same. Fuel lock happens when the impeller is freewheeling in vapor, here the fuel cell simply pulled a vacuum on the first fuel pump.

  • @Takashikuubo
    @Takashikuubo Před 2 lety +3

    *Max trying to win a championship*
    His engine : I quit ✌🏻

  • @alexm5095
    @alexm5095 Před 2 lety +3

    As a Mercedes fan. I love to see it 😂. I also love to see Ferrari taking the wins 😬

    • @KiRaPaRk44
      @KiRaPaRk44 Před 2 lety

      We r all in for a BIG TREAT!😏🤣

    • @gogox98
      @gogox98 Před 2 lety +3

      Eh idk man. I am a Max fan but seeing anyone DNF sucks. Even if it is Hamilton.

    • @madtrade
      @madtrade Před 2 lety +1

      as a mercedes hater i take great pleasure in this season
      what a shitbox lol

    • @alexm5095
      @alexm5095 Před 2 lety

      @@madtrade 😭 but we haven’t had a DNF and been scoring points 🥱.

  • @AccordGTR
    @AccordGTR Před 2 lety

    The pipes, tubing and connectors in F1 are aviation standards!

  • @Liquid-Ice
    @Liquid-Ice Před 2 lety +2

    You said it was a Redbull Powertrain issue - but that isn't true, it is a Honda engine problem. Horner only calls it Redbull Powertrains when they win 🤣

    • @a.r.s
      @a.r.s Před 2 lety

      👎

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      No its named RBPT but its a Honda engine. Its as its in the contract with Honda.

  • @caio5987
    @caio5987 Před 2 lety +8

    I’m so relieved when you tubers tell me the real reason for things to have happened 😂
    Because I know for sure everyone else was lying

  • @Bhatakti_Hawas
    @Bhatakti_Hawas Před 2 lety +4

    I love your content. But please don't use clickbait words like 'Real Reason'. Just use 'Reason'. F1 technicalities aren't politics where you will find several opinions about every single thing
    Also keep up the good work. Cheers

  • @marianne1555
    @marianne1555 Před 2 lety

    Red Bull Energizer might help 🤣

  • @matteonanni4939
    @matteonanni4939 Před 2 lety

    "Checo had an engine induced SBINNALA" I'm dying

  • @studioonewrld
    @studioonewrld Před 2 lety +4

    Karma is a bitch.

    • @hoolyh3270
      @hoolyh3270 Před 2 lety +11

      sorry midfielder what did u say?

    • @Manuel-xj1hv
      @Manuel-xj1hv Před 2 lety +2

      Karma for what?

    • @studioonewrld
      @studioonewrld Před 2 lety

      @@Manuel-xj1hv u know what for

    • @Manuel-xj1hv
      @Manuel-xj1hv Před 2 lety +2

      @@studioonewrld not really tbh

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 Před 2 lety +1

      @@studioonewrld Not sure if you understand how karma actually works?

  • @amedeosantini3911
    @amedeosantini3911 Před 2 lety +2

    You said Max lost 38 points, Horner said the same thing: “we lost 50 points”. So, as it seems, it was obvious that Red Bull and Max would have gotten two FL both in Bahrain and in Australia. In both cases, Leclerc’s laps were 1 sec faster than the ones attempted by the Red Bulls. So, sure, Max lost 38 points.

    • @halofreak1990
      @halofreak1990 Před 2 lety +2

      38 is only true if we're assuming Max would've had the point for the fastest lap, which I doubt, so, for me, I'm sticking with 36 points down the crapper.

    • @amedeosantini3911
      @amedeosantini3911 Před 2 lety

      @@halofreak1990 yeah, I agree with you. That’s exactly my point. Max wouldn’t have gotten 38 points anyway, so he didn’t lost out 38 points.

    • @gealingeman8643
      @gealingeman8643 Před 2 lety

      Useless mathematics 😄

  • @Shareezy
    @Shareezy Před 2 lety +1

    Engine induced sbinalla, you legend xD

  • @rcknroll58
    @rcknroll58 Před 2 lety

    not surprising considering how you have to run some sort of additive to neutralize the effect that ethanol has on normal home power equipment and carbeurated engines like seals, floats, jets, etc.