Is Steam Deck REALLY the Nintendo Switch DESTROYER? | Nontendo Podcast #4
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The iFixit/Valve breakdown video did it for me. When they said "it is your device and you have every right to do what you want with it" I was sold.
The friendship origin story was so in character. Wood being 100% clueless and Bob just *audible sigh* bwhahahah It made me smile
The green screen for Wood looked really convincing.
I thought the whole clap thing was just a bit at first, but then I started noticing the video artifacts around Wood.
Bob, You dont have to remap for emulators also, steam deck has community templates , select them from crontroller icon beside the play button in deck ui.
I remember binging both of your guys’ content while waiting to get my Switch and now here I am watching this video a few days before my Steam Deck is supposed to get here. Some things don’t change.
How are you liking your deck 4 months later?
When they described their origin story I was smiling, and not because it was funny, but because I was happy, what a wholesome friendship story.
It's an interesting concept. I think Steam HATES exclusives for a specific platform. The Steam deck was designed to bring their games TO the handheld space to INTENTIONALLY make it so Steam games were not limited to the PC/ Microsoft ecosystem. Making A deck exclusive game would be a backwards step for them. However, Indie developers TARGETING the deck while ALSO supporting PC would be VERY good for the deck. However, for some Indy titles, the Deck is ALREADY the best place to play them by nature of their game being possibly NOT on the switch or Cheaper on steam AND many Indie games have lower power requirements.
Good points mate.
THANK you for your input! I HOPE you MAKE more VALID POINTS in the future. PERHAPS you COULD make AN in-depth REVIEW later on!!!
Didn't put together that Wood was green screened in until like half way through the episode. They did great with the lighting on him.
i only realized when wood put his foot up at 51:40 and his sole cut off. so are they in the same set but social distancing, or are they in completely different places?
This is my first time catching this cast, I like the long format stuff. Keep it up, this is good interaction. Much more organic than a "team up video" or whatever they're called when one of you shows up on the other's channel for a bit.
it took me way too long to realize wood was green screened in
I never would have imagined this podcast, this duo, but now that it's here I'm all about it. Love this setting and the branding and the banter. It's funny & interesting and you both are good balances to one another. This show is my new favorite podcast.
I’ve been binge watching all of the podcasts and it really has been the best part of my morning while getting ready for work! I love this channel!
As someone who has driven across the country twice (first time with myself and a cat, the second time with the wife, 2 cats, and a dog, and a trailer) I wish you luck on your travel! I personally enjoy driving and ended up doing all 48hrs of the driving both ways, but I have no clue how I could do a 24hr drive with 5 cats... best of luck to Kim! Also, hi Bob! Love what you do and ended up getting a PocketGo a while ago based off of your video back in the day. I appreciate what you guys do and love the new format with the two of you guys!
About the emulators button mapping thing, I think you could have multiple profiles for different controllers or even the same controller in most emulators these days, and you could just switch profiles instead of remapping.
Nice episode really loved this one 👍🏼.
Coming back to this after just getting a Steam Deck is interesting. I do wish Nintendo had better account systems, but not for the reasons Bob said. Some people can only afford one console and their Switch may be their only one, so being able to share games more easily would be great. I still think the whole switching from TV to handheld thing works because of that. One of the other things that Nintendo does well (which is quickly disappearing with the whole deck verified thing), is having games just work out of the box. PCs were always a pain for me due to that, I just wanted to sit down and play. However, now more and more developers are working with the Steam Deck specifically in mind, I think that won’t be much of an issue with the deck for long.
I could just play your podcast while binging CIV VI and just let time fly pass by without even noticing. Love the chemistry been a fan of Bob and Wood since 2017! 😍
Wow! Great comp work with Wood there, I barely even noticed! XD
Awesome episode, insightful and entertaining. Keep up the great work 🙂👍
P. S. Is the N64 faster now it's been caffinated? 🤔
Nice content. Just one suggestion: you should tweak the shutter speed of your camera a bit. That way you can remove the rolling effect on your CRT to make it more visible. Generally 1/60 of a second should work for NTSC CRTs.
I was wondering how you were going to do this long distance, took me a while to realize wood wasn't really in the room haha
Even though it would be super niche, y'all should try to pitch an idea to somebody like 8-bitdo and have the face buttons (ABXY) made with LCD screens behind them and they automatically change to the correct face buttons based off what emulator or game you're running.
Hey guys I like your podcast so much, and I listen to it while I study. Thank u so much for helping me. Cheers from Argentina.
You guys are adorable. My favorite podcasts are just a couple of friends hanging out and genuinely just enjoying each other's company. Another great example of that is the Friendship Onion.
Love both of these guys content thanks for your hard work.
The whole uhaul trailer thing, you should look into it. Usually they do that because they do that with empty trailers as they are trying to relocate inventory to higher demand areas. When I move back home to California from Texas my uhaul trailer cost was like 400 or less because they had little inventory in California at the time lol.
I scrolled down to find a comment like this. It's definitely relocating empty stock, and not transporting client goods. Uhaul isn't a moving company, they don't offer services like that. It's actually in their name, "you" haul your own stuff using their truck, not the other way around.
I mean it might be inconvenient to drive out of your way, but 500 or 600 dollars might cover gas for a trip from Texas to Pennsylvania, depending on how big a truck they've got and the gas prices. Rough estimate, of course, I haven't moved interstate in two decades.
Deck Ready is the Steam Deck channel with Jimmy, Xbox Ready and PS Ready are the other ones, Ray Trevino does Xbox ready with Jimmy as a "guest" a lot. Pretty good channels, they do some "click bait" things, but still good content
Thanks for watching
They should have presave configs in button mapping section like drop-down menu to select the system you're emulating. Then if is not to you liking you can edit the layouts and save them for each console emulation profile. Additionally you should be able to set a default dock and handheld mode profile that would not change unless in the specific system emulator.
Freakishly good green screening here lol. Like multi angled superimposing of wood xD
Does Wood film these remotely? Other than the slight keying issues, it looks super good.
It was funny to know how you met XD it makes you all the more endearing !
Did anyone else notice that the seam around Wood from the green screen was way more noticeable this time? Still good work
Link's face in the thumbnail is priceless.
Realistically the Texas/PA trip is 2 days at a good pace and minimal stops. Spent 25 years in Ohio and I'm from Texas. Living there again now cuz family and all. Me and my dad are night owls tho, I deal with insomnia and my dad drives 18 wheelers. We do it in 28 hours going straight thru and only stopping for gas, 3 meals, and occasional bathroom breaks. Good gravy doi love the trip tho. So much gorgeous scenery, so many different types of cities to see, it's one of my favorite things to do every summer for the last 22 years. I hope you really enjoy PA, I spent loads of time there growing up all over the place. Quiet place.
Really liked the ending... how they met hilarious missed connection story.
I just got my pre order processed for the steam deck. I don’t have any PC gaming set up, but as a big switch fan who is looking for something different, this appealed to me.
Bob just enlightened me, imagine if the next Switch will be a 2 in 1, like a powerful home console and at the same time a different device that you can take with lower graphics to keep on playing, similar to the switch but the dock as a portable GPU or something like that, that would be sick
It would probably fry mobos
In my opinion, windows doesn't need to work on the deck flawlessly. If you ask me, more games should develop with linux in mind now
Your show is kinda growing on me. You guys are a good match for co hosts.
The podcast is to good ,Hoping for longer show's in the future!
Thanks for the shoutout!
I love the Steam Deck for games that you can’t play on the Switch. With their most recent proton update, a majority of the jrpgs that had issues with cutscenes not working were fixed. All the YS games work perfectly fine now. All the “Legends of Heroes” games work great. My main purpose for getting the Deck was so I could play certain jrpgs like “Tales of Arise” in a portable space. I can get through jrpgs so much easier on handhelds. The only issue is transitioning from much higher frame rates to lower frame rates on the switch. There legitimately is a transition period where it takes a few sessions for me to get used to the lower frame rates. Then it straight up doesn’t bother me anymore.
I love watching this on CZcams but I feel bad about not contributing to your ranking on Apple podcasts! You guys are great ♥️
Honestly I think they only got a few more episodes in them anyway
Your intro music is reminiscent of jazzy Christmas music.
Personally got the Steam Deck a month ago and it has completely replaced my Switch largely as there’s no games coming for Switch I am into at the moment and I have the whole Steam library to play with including a load of PS4 content now migrating over. Big problem for the Deck is availability if they could do Nintendo number maybe but its never going to replace Nintendo whilst they have the exclusive content they have.
How do you deal with heat/noise of the fan
@@richardstrait3723 it really isn't that loud
@@BravoRox its loud enough you can't play it on public transportation
I honestly have never noticed it, played God of War on the train. Just turn the frame rate limiter down and it seems fine and I don’t notice much of an issue. I play at night in bed next to my wife and she never has a problem with it.
@@richardstrait3723 yes, you can. Busses, trains and planes are noisy
Personally it’s killed it for me. The switch was only good for indies and exclusives. Now that the Steam deck does indies better. Actually PC has always been the place for indies. All the switch is good for now are exclusives. Sometimes they are on PC as long as years before the Switch sees them. And even then, there’s Yuzu and Ryujinx. And those two emulators run great on the Deck and are improving daily.
I'm a Linux gamer. The Steam Deck is perfect for me. PC has had more indies than Switch forever. Also, PC has open source Free games that Nintendo wouldn't dream of putting on the Switch. Battle for Wesnoth is still one of my favorites.
Buying indies on steam is also wayy cheaper in the long run oppsoed to buying them on switch.
@@kerb5989 Yep. And no fk-ing Nintendo tax needed.
And long trips, my steam deck has never made it over 2 hours. While my switch gets around 5 hours 🤷♂️
Aperture Desk Job wasnt exactly locked to the steam deck, you can download and play it on your PC but not with mouse and keyboard, you have to use controller because it was designed just for the steam Deck
Bob I drive and pull the trailer for living in the fact that you know about fishtailing amazes me you're the man
Im really impressed with the quality of the topics you guys discuss
What? Lol
Despite this being a nontendo podcast, everytime I watch your podcasts and other videos, I want a Nintendo Switch Lite even more.
So happy I got my beatemups satisfye grip when I did, was worth the wait :)
So when can we buy a print of the poster on the wall?
Thats the most Wood thumbnail i've ever seen
I believe the PC space is getting incredible and now with a handheld like the deck it's really fantastic, I'm a playstation guy, got the PS5 and a very old PC, but seeing some people really excited to play spiderman or the last of us portable... I never imagined that happen in my wildest guess, but it's pretty real ! It's a good time to be a gamer
Eh not really if your not into live service
I’m a PlayStation fan as well. I have a Switch and am now looking to get a Deck.
I had a PSP and PSVita back in the day, I’m really hoping Sony moves towards a handheld console after the PS5’s lifespan. I really think the PSVita was ahead of it’s time. When you look at what it had, it was so close to being a game changer like the Switch…it’s sad that Sony didn’t give it the attention and support it deserved.
But I totally agree, it’s an exciting time to be a gamer! 😄
guys, CEMU and Yuzu allow you to easily map the buttons as you like on your controller (Xbox or Playstation), and allows you to save these as separate profiles, it's not that complicated...
Dang I loved Starlink. I didn’t get the toys I just bought everything digital. But it was awesome. I wish they would’ve added more characters like Samus or Captain Falcon, but keeping it starfox was awesome
Possible time stamps for future episodes?
I didn't know about your latest steam deck video. Google never showed it to me. I had to stop and watch it. Can't wait to get my steam deck.
The only people I hear saying it's a switch killer are CZcamsrs trying to get clicks, in all the Discords channels about Steam Deck I read nobody ever says that.
I had planned on getting a Steam Deck but I don't know if I can justify it. I have a very high end gaming PC (Ryzen 9 + Sapphire NITRO+ 6800xt), a mid-range gaming laptop, multiple Switches, PS4, Xbox One, hacked Wii U with most of library I want installed & a ton more order consoles. I know I'm the target demographic for the Steam Deck but idk if there's anything it can do really that I can't do already. It takes less than a minute to pull out my gaming laptop when I'm traveling and play all the games that are on the Steam Deck and of course I have my main Switch when I want to mobile game. Maybe if I didn't have both the Switch or my gaming laptop than the gap would be filled better with the Steam Deck.
in the same place as you with the deck, I love the concept but I have all the latest consoles, not a pc though. I'm probably better of getting a laptop as it offers something other than gaming
The reason why anyone would be sceptical towards the Steam Deck is the fear of the unknown. Why? You may ask. Because ultimately, it is the most personal console/PC handheld device that can do a bit of everything that anyone would want. Unless you absolutely copy the setup of someone else, your experience will never be the same as the other steam deck guy. That said, valve even thought of that so you can play any game at any setting you desire as well as copy other people's profile to get the best visuals or best FPS. Again, wherever your imagination takes you. The possibilities are endless and the only limitation is the user and his will to explore how deep the rabbit hole goes. Except when the hardware starts to show it's age, I suppose. So if you want a portable gaming PC with decent support for gaming as well as a desktop experience, Steam Deck is a future proof investment. I might actually make it my daily driver PC setup if I seriously want one and order it. Building a PC is my primary choice but sadly in Europe it's not a budget friendly investment anymore. Hence why my interest in Steam Deck. I can literally buy a monitor, bundle that to a keyboard and mouse and there is my Linux/Windows PC. Will probably game better than my 10th gen intel soc ultrabook on docked mode too...
What is wood rubbing at the 46min mark?
There should be a sound wall to the left of wolf, there’s a huge echo coming from his mic
I'm on the waitlist for the steam deck, I think mine should be around august. My friend let me check it out, would love it more than the switch. especially with my robust backlog of games I have never gotten around to on steam. I really want to try it out for emulators when I get mine and I've seen videos for it, seems like a great emulator machine. I mostly care to play older games, ps2 and older era and I've played most of the more modern games that I want to that was on switch and wii, so I'm not really interested in any upcoming games besides xenoblade 3 and Live A Live. I'm not HUGE on nintendo games in the first place but I do enjoy a few like Luigi's mansion, Fire Emblem, and to a much lesser extent, pokemon. The newest one was mediocre to me. A lot of 3rd party games just dont run that well on switch for me or I'll play games like SMT V and it just performs kinda poorly. I honestly just emulated it on my PC and played it at 60 fps and increased resolution to actually play it. So I feel it's kinda obsolete as a device for me.
I don't think the steam deck is a replacement for a lot of people, especially casual gamers and younger audiences as well as family-friendly and easy to use. It's also heavily more advertised. The only advertisements I see for the steam deck are usually by other gamers, most casual gamers I don't think have heard of it. Especially parents. I love steam cloud and systems way more than anything nintendo as well plus it's great that my impulse purchases of steam sale games that I think may play better on mobile, or that I would prefer to play on mobile, would get some actual use. There's a lot of interest for it and it's good hardware for a good price, the problem I think right now is the optimization. I think it could be REALLY great here in 2 years. Steam deck 2 could be a really fierce competitor for switch since I don't think they will wait as long as switch to release an improved version, possibly. so it could go more head to head.
Which quarter is your reservation under (mine is Q3, which is around October)?
@@cadethumann8605 Ah seems mine was pushed back to Q3 as well :( I heard some were pushed back but I hadn't checked in awhile
@@Kiobao Pity. I just hope that ours will come by that quarter.
I have been listening to this podcast on my Zune, using the RSS feed. This podcast is great! love your content.
I don't particularly like this podcast, but I'm glad to see your zune is going strong in 2022
While I do think that there will be more competition for the steam deck in its form factor, you will be hard pressed to find another company with as deep pockets who are willing to sell their consoles at a loss.
I'm still waiting on my reservation but looking forward to the steam deck
YES, the trackpad is very very good. It's very tactile and accurate. I do use it with first person shooters and it feels so good.
With Switch you don't need to bounce cloud saves between systems though, since it's hybrid. But even if you do, it works for 99% of games.
Ending on a best friend note. It's great.
I think it really interesting that you talk about the Steam Deck to support running Windows properly so that you could play Valorant but playing Apex just works without issue. Most games like Apex are not supporting Linux natively. Still they run without bigger or even any issues through software (aka Proton and Wine).
So I would actually prefer that games like Valorant just get playable on Linux instead of hacking around with Windows on the Steam Deck. Because SteamOS is extremely convenient to use while Windows (in any version) would be really annoying.
Why wouldn't you prefer that? Or do you think it's impossible to happen? Because I think the more handhelds and laptops get published running SteamOS or any other Linux distribution out of the box, the more demand will be to access such games without dual-boot, manual installations or hacking around in a desktop operating system designed for keyboard and mouse connected. Not to mention the license cost included getting Windows on it.
So for the masses it should be much better if games like Valorant just gets playable on SteamOS, wouldn't it?
INTRO IDEA: the 0:41 "tara ra ra ra" and ends with 0:49 fingers snaps 😅
I enjoy this podcast a lot 👍 almost makes me wanna try to become like u guys, but I don't think I got the time and money to do this CZcams life lol. Good show tho guys
Can we have a wolf edition satisfye grip since there won't be a beat em ups?
How much longer can switch keep going as it is ? If switch pro/2 is not out and available in the next couple of years i will be a steam deck user. I need more power. What do you think 🤔
Can someone tell me which episode of the spawncast they met?
This is the best podcast, Gaming + Wholesome. Keep it up guys.
What is going on with Woods bottom half and microphone? They look edited in lmao ( in the wide shot only)
i kinda disagree with Bob @ 4:00 because i am actually a console player, i grew up this way and was never really good gaming on pc even when i tried. Plus, i can't afford a good gaming pc.
As the steam deck was released i fell in love with it and put money aside till i can afford it because it finally gave me the opportunity to play computer games that do not get released on consoles and put computer & console gaming into one! now i can not only play games on a handheld console but also play games that do not have crossplay with my computer-gaming friends. If i would have had a good gaming pc and all that, i most likely wouldn't have bought a steam deck cause i would have been fine playing the games available on the nintendo switch on the go 😱 p.s. love both of you guys' content! 💖
Steam did pretty well with this design, portable, dockable, affordable. On top of that though, it’s the standardize “consolize” pc. I’ve never bought a gaming pc, but it’s because of the money, how quick pcs are obsoleted. Steam deck to me, fixes that. To me, this is what X Box should’ve always been
It doesn't fic the obsolete problem. The steam deck is ALREADY outdated. The deck won't play new games for long. It already can't handle newer games at good settings.
Best episode yet and it would awesome to see a video with you two about new steam deck discoveries, not a switch killer, but you gotta admit it's the new "hot new girl in town".
Right sure it's new and pretty but on the inside it's dead and riddled with issues
@@richardstrait3723 I agree. Nintendo is riddled with issues but let's hope they get their act together! Thanks for speaking out
45:57 I know its green screen, but that looks really weird 🤣
When u haul drops into the podcast😂😂
Not just better hardware, but I hope Nintendo will give us the complete Switch family line-up: Handheld, Hybrid and TV box. If they put together a cohesive account experience, similar to Steam and better than Xbox, the Switch would definitely be an entertainment/gaming juggernaut that would rival Apple and Google’s devices.
They wanted everyone to get a Switch for each person in the household, so I hope they can leverage this plan with hardware that can interact with one another. Another point that Bob kept mentioning, how many people play their Switch in docked mode versus handheld. I’ve heard it’s over half of the base (maybe less) that uses their Switch in this mode. It would make sense to add a TV box (which could be a “pro” model). If this does happen, I think NVIDIA will drop their Shield TV from the market sadly.
The account system must be seamless, along with cloud saves, so the experience won’t be interrupted. Valve would be the best to emulate for this process since Xbox’s account system is a bit janky with multiple systems (not the cloud saves though).
I am curious how the guy on the left is there, looks like an extremely convincing greenscreen setup by the inconsistencies around him
Well you were kind of in the same place together at E3 2016. Sounds like Bob was inside the whole time😂 #alllove
Great collaboration video
The big reason for the Switch is the Nintendo library.
Genuine question do Satisfye have Steam deck grips.
This is my new favourite podcast. Hands down.
I love my samsung s23 ultra for emulating it can run most games really well it works with any Bluetooth controller plus i have a razer kishi and it come with a stylus so it also works great for ds and 3ds games plus with samsung dex you can plug your phone into a monitor and use it like a computer so i can also play my games on the big screen if i want to
wood is def not in the same place as wolf , this is a green screen
Been looking through comments just for something seeing what I saw.
@@MDRN_ANMLS i know right , lol I just needed to say it
Wood, I genuinely wish we were friends so that I could make that trip with you 😂
It really feels to me like the "Steam Deck will kill the Switch" argument is only coming from the perspective of the most "serious" gamers.
Right now, if I want to buy a Steam Deck, I need to place an order for a system that will at some point cost me at least £349, which I will get "sometime" after October, and which, at the unconfirmed moment it does become available, will only be available to me for 72 hours, in which time I need to act fast to actually secure the item I've supposedly already ordered.
Or, I could go to Argos right now and buy a Switch.
By the time the Steam Deck gets over all the weird hoops you need to jump through in order to acquire one, and starts to be a widespread success, Nintendo will in all likelihood have moved onto their next console.
Add onto that in my own network of friends and colleagues who game, only one other than myself really knows what it is, and only a handful of others have even heard of it.
So while I imagine the Steam Deck will be a success in it's own way, I have serious doubts whether it will ever rise to Switch-level popularity and success. Right now it seems to be catering to a far more niche audience of gamers. And that isn't a criticism (before the PC gamer crowd leaps on me to call me a Nintendo fanboy), but it just seems obvious that the two systems serve very different purposes and cater to different audiences. They'd have to be a lot more comparable for one to kill the other.
(Anyway, if you got this far thanks for reading another instalment in my comment series "These Things I Believe")
Everything you sad plus Nintendo original games that sell consoles by them selves
@@Vandaimeful That too. I know a lot of people on here will go "but there are emulators that can run Switch games really well" but that's not how the vast majority of ordinary consumers play their games.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
My impression was also that most people saying it's a "Switch killer" (btw, good luck trying to "kill" a console that sold 100+ million units so far) weren't interested in the Switch in the first place. Which is valid, of course, Nintendo with its quirks isn't for everyone lol, but it's obviously gonna screw their perception of the general market
Yeah, highly doubtful it will ever catch up.to.the switch. It's definitely no switch "killer", but it's very good for what it is at it's price point, and will definitely capture its own market if PC gamers. also, the end of your comment made me laugh 😂
You know you're dead tired when you only realise it's a fellow Brit commenting when they mention Argos and not £
Best ep, imho. Love you guys!
Buying during Steam sales for all those third party titles I would have bought on Switch. Then being able to play on PC or Steam deck via cloud saves sold me on the deck.
I’m just here for Wood’s pronunciation of MARY-land 😂…and as a resident, I can corroborate that Pennsylvania is correctly pronounced Pee-Ayye. Good luck with the move Wood!
1:03:13 I died from wholesome cuteness overload!
Cant wait for the Nontendo Swap!
Yeah its better that the steam deck is so open. Honestly, I think in general Gabe Newell philosophy is about keeping an open platform!! So having Exclusive games on steam or on the steam deck I doubt will ever happen!!
An exclusive optimised edition of a game however could be possible. They have the ability of bundles with the console in the future if required as they own the ecosystem.
If they somehow connect it with their vr systems it could add more niche appeal perhaps.
Also no developer is willing to sign up for exclusive deals on a unproven system that more then likey be a fad
@@richardstrait3723 you have a point.
wish you guys were sponsored by skull and co. (despite the v2 switch products beign much better than the oled versions).
since you guys are so close with satisfye, you should tell them to fix their tropical editions to be half and half so it actually matches the joycons