Every Televoting First Place of Eurovision Song Contest (2009-2024)
Vložit
- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- If you enjoyed this video, Subscribe for more!
Follow me on social:
1. / giorgio.rospier
2. / giorgiorospier
3. / discord
If you like my work you can support me by donating here:
4. www.buymeacoffee.com/escgiorgioo
5. www.paypal.me/escgiorgio
Eurovision 2024:
Albania: Besa - "TiTAN"
Armenia: Ladaniva - "Jako"
Australia: Electric Fields - "One Milkali (One Blood)"
Austria: Kaleen - "We Will Rave"
Azerbaijan: Fahree -
Belgium: Mustii - "Before the Party's Over"
Croatia: Baby Lasagna - "Rim tim tagi dim"
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - "Liar"
Czechia: Aiko - "Pedestal"
Denmark: Saba - "Sand"
Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
Finland: Windows95man - "No Rules!"
France: Slimane - "Mon Amour"
Georgia: Nutsa - "Fire Fighter"
Germany: Isaak - "Always on the Run"
Greece: Marina Satti - "Zari"
Iceland: Hera Bjork - "Scared of Heights"
Ireland: Bambie Thug - "Doomsday Blue"
Italy: Angelina Mango - "La noia"
Latvia: Dons - "Hollow"
Lithuania: Silvester Belt - "Lukltelk"
Luxembourg: Tali - "Fighter"
Malta: Sarah Bonnici - "Loop"
Moldova: Natalia Barbu - "In the Middle"
Netherlands: Joost Klein - "Europapa"
Norway: Gåte - "Ulveham"
Poland: Luna - "The Tower"
Portugal: Iolanda - "Grito"
San Marino: Megara - "11:11"
Serbia: Teya Dora - "Ramonda"
Slovenia: Raiven - "Veronika"
Spain: Nebulossa - "Zorra"
Sweden: Marcus & Martinus - "Unforgettable"
Switzerland: Nemo - "The Code"
Ukraine: Jerry Heil and Alyona alyona - "Teresa & Maria"
United Kingdom: Olly Alexander - "Dizzy"
"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use"
Tags:
Eurovision2024, eurovision, eurovision2023, eurovision2022, melodifestivalen2024, melodifestivalen, umk, melodi grand prix 2024, melodi grand prix, mgp, mgp2024, umk2024, Top 07, Top 7, esc, esc2024, esc2023, esc2022, veronika, alyona alyosa, jerry heil, Albania, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom, songvakeppnin, deltävlingen 1, deltävling 1, deltävlingen 2, deltävling 2, deltävlingen 3, deltävlingen 4, deltävling 4, melodifestivalen 2017, melfest 2017, top songs, heat 1, heat 2, heat 3, heat 4, swedish, svergie, Lietuva Eurovizijoje, Eurovizija, Eurovizijos Dainų Konkursas winner, esc, jesc, top 42, top 43, eurovision history, ever since 1956, national final, Europe, recap, all entries, ranking, karaoke, lyrics, instrumental, cover, live, dress rehearshal, jury, televoting, televotes, 2nd semi final, 1st semi final, my top 10, my top 08, my top 09, jorge gonzalez, chanel, spain, benidorm fest, scoreboard, my top after the show, my top before the show, odds, winning odds, qualifying, prediction, simulation, qualifiers, eesti laul, pesma za evroviza, pze, breskvica, keiino, ulveham, super rob, erika norwich, slimane, aiko, mon amour, pedestal, national selection, national season, my top 40, my top 30, my top 20, my top 15, eliminated songs, official results, dotter its hard to write a love song, maria sur when i m gone, liamoo dragon, danny saucedo Happy That You Found Me, Marcus and Martinu unforgettable Rehearsals, GREECE, ESC REHEARSALS, TIK TOK REHEARSAL, top 37,Eurovision special moments,Eurovision behind the scenes,Eurovision reactions,Eurovision predictions,Eurovision favorites,Eurovision voting system,Eurovision stage,Eurovision semi-finals,Eurovision Famous Moments,Eurovision Best Performances,Eurovision Iconic Moments,Eurovision Legendary Performances,eurovision ranking,eurovision song,eurovision eliminated songs,eurovision winners reaction,eurovision most watched,Eurovision Song Contest Winners,Eurovision Grand Final Performances Eurovision Song Contest - Rehearsals Roundup (Part 2) | Malmö 2024 #UnitedByMusic - Hudba
Austria 2014 had 311 points in the televote.
But 2014 and 2015 dont had televoting isnt not???
@@kingk428 what?
@@shroom736 2014 and 2015 esc dont have televote just jury voting
@@kingk428 yeah they do
It’s insane that Eurovision give 50% of the scoring decision to 5 people from each country, while thousands of fans and viewers (pay to) vote for their favourites and it worth equally 50%
Could you image this situation in spor? You are not even 1 - 3 place.. and just because of jury you are winner 🤔🤔🤔
But it is important to give more power to the people that know at least anything about music. Juries are usually people chosen by their knowledge. If we were to give voting power entirely to the common people we would always choose joke entries because commoners have in general worse taste. It'd basically ruin the show.
Boohoo, if you were into Eurovision in the 00s you wouldn’t be saying this.
Or you just forgot how horrible the competition was back then.
This is the best system we’ve had so why fix what isn’t broken
@@logi-athen bring back juries only and everyone will be sending their opera singers and we are fine. People feel cheated for spending money, not being able to pick the winner for the 2nd year in a row. Juries cannot hold such weight to out vote millions of people who vote and WILL BE THE ONES GOING TO CONCERTS OR LISTENING, DOWNLOADING MUSIC. Not watching at all anymore.
@@Marina_-_- it’s not like the public didn’t decide the winner.
Both loreen and nemo got over 200 points
Eurovision should have the same voting system as UMK in Finland. 25% jury and 75% public.
Ehhh no
No! That's why they still pick Win95man from jury last place! 🤣 Should be min 30/70 make more sense.
@@Bandido894 It’s not fair at all that 130 people and millions of people are equally valued in voting.
40/60 Jury/Televote is more fair
@@oof3397 I agree, people don't realise how big a difference even 40-60 makes. 25/75 is too big of a difference
Spirit in the Sky is such a classic.
One of my favourite Eurovision entries of all time!!
@@osasunaitor Discovered it this year, cannot stop listening
@@notsosuperhero267 It's never too late!
If the jury wants someone to win, they'll make sure they win. It's as simple as that.
Simple as.
Because the Jury is one big blob of people all involved in a giant conspiracy. Sound so plausible...
Sadly but it is like it.. welcome in "DEMOCRACY"....by the way those people in jury are NOT experts.. for example Croatian jury did NOT select Baby Lasagna firstly to participate on DORA.. . he was on waiting list for DORA .. 😂😂😂 so those "experts" have more power than 10000 people .. cammon...
@@dalmatiandream4452 Dora jury were various HRT producers (Mesar, Geržina, Miočić, Urlić, Krizmanić, Gross - corrupt and/or incompetent bunch, clientelism at best). Croatia's Eurosong jury were mainly singers (Skansi, Vanna, Dino Jelusić, Lockroom, GV Damjanović). Not the same people.
Cha Cha Cha and Rim Tim Tagi Dim the moral winners!
And like for the good video as always
No they aren’t winners tho 😂 cry about it but came second and that’s amazing.
It's disturbing how many on here that didn't actually end up winning
womp womp
They're the minority tho, most televote winners won the competition, many in spite of the juries, and a couple of them saw the jury winner also lose because both the jury and the televote could not agree on who won but agreed on who got 2nd place
Only 5 of them - hardly a great amount
One and only Baby Lasagna ❤
Meh
Our true winner ❤🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
@@Adodoa23-us1mlyou may don't like him, but the majority of voters did, so...
Liked Switzerland this year but Croatia has been my winner since the semi finals ❤
@@famemosterrrrr Are you just going to obnoxiously reply to every pro-Croatia comment on here or
I can't believe the televote gave Austria Songwriter(s): Charlie Mason • Joey Patulka • Ali Zuckowski • Julian Maas points, 2014 must have been an interesting year
No one asked + I own you in MKWII + I'm better than you and Troy combinded.
@@colle3291😂 what
@@crabrave8979 Don't mind them, MKW players aren't known for being very smart (and I say this as a MKW player)
@@MKWahPhil what’s mkw? Sorry
@@crabrave8979 Mario Kart Wii
2019: YASS, televote had a really great taste here! I like Arcade, but KEiiNO is such a cool band.
spirit in the sky robbed
2019 still hurts 😢
I am forever thankful that did not win
Grande Amore gives me goosebumps every time
Our Marko is True Winner🇭🇷🇭🇷💋💋💋😘😘😘🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
I don’t see him with the trophy do you?
@@logi-awell we all saw what happened to that trophy
Hrvati smirite dozivljaje, bilo je jasno od početka da necete pobjediti, sta se lozite 😂
Definately the winner ❤ I was voting for him! ❤
@@user-fm2el3qy3m Da je to bilo jasno ne bi uvjerljivo vodio na kladionicama mjesecima i pomeo televote
Switzerland was my favourite but I feel bad for Croatia not winning. Baby Lasagne was my #2 so I voted both him and Nemo
Why you feel bad? He came second place and that gave him a reason to follow the singing career. Why you are never satisfied?
Real winners are those who win the televoting. People are going to the concert not jury.
We are all very proud od Baby Lasagna 🐈🇭🇷🐈
The real winners are the ones that play by the rules and win due to those rules.
Thus nemo is the true winner seeing as they have the trophy
@@logi-a Are you saying the others didn't follow the rules?
@@antelasic1950 they all played by the rules but Nemo played by the rules (50/50) and appealed to both
@logi-a France did too and even they got 150 points less by the jury.
@@antelasic1950 Yes, love his song and definitely really the best vocal this year
First place was Croatia's right.
The song was kinda mid ngl
@@moooooooor_majority of EU disagreed with you already
Croatia was trash
@@moooooooor_I can smell your sexual orientation through the screen
This year was kinda stacked imo. I voted Switzerland and France but Croatia, Italy and many others were also amazing. I also think Netherlands wouldve been very high up there if not the winner without the disqualification.
There are five members from each 37 countries in the Jury.That is 185 people.On the other side thousands and milions of fans vote for their favourites.The jury can't give us the real winner.
Good point 💪💪❤️😻 by the way those people in jury are NOT experts.. for example Croatian jury did NOT select Baby Lasagna firstly to participate on DORA.. . he was on waiting list for DORA .. 😂😂😂 so those "experts" have more power than 10000 people .. cammon...
Basically the jury decides the winner…
Good? That’s their job anyway? The juries consist of people who might be singers, producers, dancers etc.
you think people with some knowledge in music wouldn’t vote accordingly?
People vote for the song that is the most fun. I get it but is it really a good song that deserves to win?
Real winners here
No every year
Nahhhh
Except of 2022 Ukraine, those were a complete support votes. UK was the real winner in 2022.
Except 2010
Me when I lie
Grande Amore won televote.. But "quality Juries" put him 6th
Was insane
Exactly. That was the highest televoting scoring in the ESC history then. And despite that they finished in the 3rd place! After all these years it still hurts 😢
I guess they didn’t want Italy to win because they aren’t the best creating a show and if you see the shows that happened in Italy. They were bad technically wise.
Since the new system came out in 2016...
4 that won the televote also win the contest...
4 that won the televote didn't win the contest...
So, it's currently 4:4 with regards to winning the contest...
99% of these are the best of each year.
Maneskin changed everything.
In 2021 Jury found out that they need to make large gap beetween their favourite and televote favourite.
Maneskin won with 317 and Lasagna lost with 337.Maneskin got 206 Jury,Lasagna 210.
Maneskin won in strongest year of Eurovision ever with 2 best vocalist of Eurovision history.
Croatia didnt stand a chance against Jury this year....
Croatia would sure won i am 100% sure if Israel didnt had situation like this and many votes that gone to them and Ukraine for war reasons would make televote winner biggest just like Kaarija last year.
This year was stronger than 2021 when we look at how competitive the songs are.
Also you’re missing a key detail, the semi finals.
With the new semifinal system, where the televote decides, it means that all the televote friendly songs get through while the more jury friendly songs get left behind. This causes what we saw last year and this year.
Another thing is that rim tim tagi dim could never have beat cha cha cha’s televote last year.
Cha cha cha was so much more popular with everyone getting him 374 points. Rim Tim Tagi Dim doesn’t have nearly as much hype and love, then adding on to that cha cha cha was just a much stronger and more competitive song then Croatia had this year.
Thus there’s just no chance that Croatia could’ve gotten over 350 points
every year there can be different number of participating countries. This year Luxembourg returned but in finals they banned one of the ppl fav - Joost from Netherland. So there were more points but one less country to vote.
Lasgna would most likely have lost a big part of their votes if Netherlands wasn't disqualified, I think a lot of the votes on Switzerland and Croatia came from people that would have voted on Netherlands
holland getting banned played a role for sure
@@logi-a i love that i know exactly what songs you are refering to without knowing the names of the songs
I wouldn’t have problems with jury votes if they were actual professionals. You can’t tell me that this year so many 12s went to 🇨🇭when there were so many other good songs. Or last year’s 🇸🇪. They have other motives besides the music which disqualifies jury votes imho. Public can be subjective and political, but juries CAN’T!
Judging by the people my country selects as jury, they usually include one or two random ones that have zero connection with the music industry.. 🙄
Такие и должны быть настоящие победители
Which Cyrillic written language is that?
To my ears, the 19 Slavic languages sound very equal to each other!
I only can tell, the Polish language more distinctly apart!
Only with some phrases, such as "Dzien Dobre" (Polish), I am sure, which Slavic language is spoken/written!
@@maikotter9945 It's Russian, one of slavic languages too
The most truthful top!
Not really, the average person just votes on politics and favorite artists, while the jury actually looks at the music
@@millenial8212 It's the other way around, actually.
People who are still complaining about Azerbaijan winning in 2011...they literally won the televote.
And it's kinda suspicious. Australia's television had their own sms voting so people can vote for their favorites. This of course had not impact on real results, it was just for fun. And in 2011 Azerbaijan got... last place
When I watched ESC 2011, I was not surprised by Azerbaijan winning, it had a certain "je ne sais quoi", a winner vibe. I suppose it was the staging and choreo, and the song felt like a Eurovision winner. People are bitter because they liked the generic pop of Sweden's Popular.
Sms operators of Azerbaijan and Swedeb Telia Nora controversial
Riggery
Extremely shady how they won though.
But yeah I bring that up when people say that the televote is always the true winner
Thanks for this video ❤ Meow 🐈
You all complaining like I did 20 years ago. Just enjoy the show and accept the rules for some peace of mind. (And yes I wish the public vote counts 66% instead of only 50 cuz its about what we will buy, not the jury.)
Not actually true. Public votes are too easily manipulated nowadays. Just look at this years votes...
@@Grisrko "manipulated" cope more
@@toxic_narcissistthey’re telling the truth.
Also what would they be coping about?
Anyway, if you look at 2011 and 2013 you will clearly see how the televotes can be rigged (most notably by the constantly cheating, Azerbaijan)
@@Grisrko Croatia had the most votes so whats your point?
@@Grisrko Yes. I am aware of people voting who never even watched it. There are lots of problems with the televote that makes it highly imperfect. Allowing people to vote 20 times from each device they have just enables rigging. And it is entirely possible for 12 points to be given with fewer than 5% of the votes cast. I think that if we were to go back to 100% televote, lots of changes would need to be made. Just giving points to the top 10 ends up distorting the result too.
Why "5 human per country", feel to be "more valuble", than hundreds of millions of humans?
2021-2024 real winner
So true
I don’t agree
I don’t see käärijä and BL holding the trophy
@@logi-abad eyesight I guess
@@denxx56 oh really, can you give me sources showing them holding the trophy on stage while confetti rains?
Who should make the rules at the end of the day The public that is the viewers, or the committees who are politically motivated? I believe it’s the viewers who should decide not the committees. At the end of the day a committee is comprised by less than a handful of people who, according to Eurovision rules « are at par » with millions of people!!! 😅😅😅 Now if that is not oligarchy and autocracy what is?
it's not about who won, it's about yet again the jury decides the fate of the competition instead of the actual people... In 2010 they introduced these jury votes to prevent "neighbor" voting... As between 1997-2009 it was ONLY people votes and no jury.
The weight of the jury votes is massively skewed, it needs to be reduced to 30% or similar if not abolished completely.
The fact that the 5th placement managed to win due to jury votes is ridiculous.
5th only 1 point away from 4th
Also juries came back in 2009.
The time of 1997-2008 was a colossal shit show and we should never have to witness that again. The new system makes it to where both jury friendly songs and tele friendly songs can do well. Reduce the power of one and we’re back to the dark ages.
But it was also almost 100 televotes away from both 1st, 2nd and 3rd...
Keiino still hurts
Weird way of spelling: "Real winners" but I'll take it
Loving these uploads!! One minor thing, idk if it's intentional, but the years should be written '09, '10, etc. not 09', 10', etc.
Yeah someone else pointed that out I will i had the ' after the numbers cause it looked better but yeah I ll fix it in the next vids. Thank you for watching ❤️
The 2020-onwards televoters are so much fun
Yeah because somehow the people stopped caring for art and vocals and good music in general.
Sometimes I wish the televote was removed like back in the 2000s/90s
By that pattern established in 2015, televoting should align again with the overall winner in 2025😂
In my opinion the fairest way is to have the judges votes count for less. (Like the highest amount of points is 8) then maybe the rightful song will win.
Completely agree
In my opinion, the Jury should be bigger. Currently, it's 5 people per country, which is not enough to have a diverse opinion. 10 people (I prefer 20 but it can be more challenging to find each year for some countries) are better, especially if they come from different backgrounds, we would probably have a more representative result for the jury points in this case
Nice!
Notice how the average quality of songs severely dropped since 2018? Yeah me too…..
To unite people through music the paying people should get to decide and not the jury. Furthermore, juries hate rock metal rap singers and go for sopranos and opera type. They should tell the artists beforehand how many points will be deducted for their genre. There are also inconsistencies from year to year between sopranos and rockers winning throughout the years, If any sporting teams wins the game on points the paying crowd knows a jury or referee shouldn't decide the win.
I adore finland'23 and croatia'24! but norway'19 broke my heart...
Anyone know why the difference started in 2015? Did anything change then in the rules or so, or is it just random?
Nice.😃
Spirit in the sky 🇳🇴
Cha cha cha 🇫🇮
Rim tim tagi dim 🇭🇷
Where absolutely robbed of wins.
It should be maNga in 2010, ΜΑΛΑΚΑ!
I'm excited to see if you do more of these over time , maybe all of Switzerland's entries for example with the points and place on the side . I used to watch schlager Lucas as he does similar types of videos but if you go to his 2024 top you will see why I no longer watch him ….. it feels wrong to support someone who does that
Yeah I saw … I will for sure make similar vids with each country etc I was gonna post every Swiss entry video recap tomorrow! And maybe some other vids
@@ESCGiorgio That's awesome , Really cool of you to do that!!
By watching this video, I'm glad the juries are 50%. Only 2024, I think both Croatia and Switzerland deserved the win.
Only in 2024 winner was only fifth, fifth! in the public votes. I would be ashamed to take a trophy with that result by the people who are watching it actually.
The problem is making the semi-finals televote only, the reason Switzerland got crowded around by the juries is that jury-friendly songs are less likely to qualify. If you don't want one country running away with the juries in the final, give them a say in the semis.
If we change the 50/50 system we'll end up with 30 Cha Cha Chas every year which might sound fun but really really wouldn't be. Giving a handful of people 50% of the vote may seem unfair but it's the best option there is
That is such a good point, about the semi-finals. Never thought about it that way.
I'm surprisingly pleased with Eurovision these last 2 years. I used to hate this contest, it was just pop and boring songs all over, but recently we started to get fresh genres and originality.
I'm happy that the public is voting them as well, this means we'll get more songs like Cha-cha-cha in the future
So these are the real winners, interesting
Are they? 😂
@@famemosterrrrr yea
0:19 ❤❤
Real winners
I like the song at the end of your videos. Do you tell me the name, pls?
Fløre Monster. It’s competing in the contest I host 👉👈
@@ESCGiorgio I have seen Fløre's video. Amazing!
German singer
I tought Britney
rim tim tagi dim
Time, if you normal, it's defucult
Italy 2015, Finland 2023 and now Croatia 2024 💔💔💔
What is the problem? Both voting added up and the winner is Switzerland, simple😂😂😂🇨🇭 🇨🇭🇨🇭
Because the "professional jury" is inconsistent.
- People's choice : Croatia
- Best voice : France
- Best show : Not one to stand out
I would have understand if the jury votes were closer but they just gave everything to Switzerland.
Because a freak act won
Oh ofc, just wear a pin skirt and anyone can win! If Baby Lasagna put a skirt on, he would've won! 😂🙄
@ESCGiorgo can you do the same but with Juryvoting 1st places?
Yesss I m literally uploading it rn ahahaha
2016 REAL WINNER 🏆
Maybe next time😁
I swear, Marko was even more robbed than Käärijä.
Cause despite me not liking Loreen’s song, at least she was 2nd.
Nemo was literally 5th. How can you even….. whatever. Eurovision voting system needs to change. It needs a lil revolution.
Cause if happens once, it’s a coincidence, if it happens twice in a row, it’s suspicious, and if it will happen for the 3rd time in a row… it’s a problem.
Cause let’s be real, we all care about winner only. And if televote has NO IMPACT on the winner’s results, it’s a problem. In that case it mean this voting system is more inclined to juries. Which is kinda a problem when you take money from people and dont even let them influence the winner.
And no im not including Jamala or Duncan into it cause in their respected years, the jury, tele and overall winners were different, but their average score has decided. The past 2 years, it’s only jury choice cause the entries get such a margin of points, that they are impossible to surpass
to be fair croatias song wasnt even a typical jury song and yet it placed third, thats still pretty good and i do kinda agree, i dont think switserland deserved to get THAT many points more then the second placer, they were defintely too favorizised by the juries
@@RollingSkyMaster tbh. I was expecting France winning jury vote. It ticked all the boxes. I dont understand how was Switzerland better option than France.
I didnt like their song for months. I was like meh. Average ballad…
But the live performance blew me away.
@@agirlinabasementofyourdaddy i agree i was stunned away with france's song as well and i dont like the studio version but i think nemo won because he had long and stable vocals and his song was in english which france's wasnt so idk
If Israel hadn't been participating this year, i'm CERTAIN Croatia would have gotten 400 points and easily won, or at least broken the record or something!
We will never know because ebu are a bunch of clowns and ruined everything😔
There’s no shot.
Käärijä was far more popular last year with a much stronger song getting 374 points. The amount of popularity and hype cha cha cha is unmatched to anything I’ve ever seen in my 18 years of being a fanatic of the contest.
There’s no way BL would’ve gotten above the 2nd highest televote in history.
I could see them getting a few more 12s instead of 10s but even then it would probably only be around 350. Especially since the points would’ve been more distributed.
Also there’s no shot well ever see someone beat Ukraines televote in 2022. At least not for the next few decades.
@@logi-aYou write like your opinion is a fact. I wouldn't agree.
@@logi-a Kaarija more popular than Lasagna? Thats a long shot my dude given that Lasagna is wilding on streams across the EU, im not saying Lasagna is way better, but it's definitely not as you've put it either, for me personally Lasagna's song is better than Kaarija's, but that's my opinion, doesn't have to be fact
I also think Tattoo was better, but again my taste and my opinion
But the fact is, given that Eurosong is event for masses and audience, both Kaarija and Lasagna were robbed, and if Kaarija won last year i would understand since people liked it the most
Croatia ❤🇭🇷
Is there a video about winning countries by jury voting like in this ESC 2024?
I posted the jury version yes
@@ESCGiorgio Where?
Lena won upon maNga from Turkey still hutrs
Did tele vote only begin in 2009?
no, however from 2003 (i think) to 2008, it was televote only, so final winner = televote winner. since 2009 there's a combination of jury and televote
@@puffzerap8648Not since 2003, the 100% televote system started well in the 20th century.
I'm so sorry but the people that are complaining about the juries are literally being double standard because if that certain country ended up being the televote winner (because she almost was, for only 14 points) you wouldn't have said the same with the results.
I miss old type of voting 😢
They should get rid of the jury and instead we could vote for our top 3 instead of just one
I'm thrilled with Nemo winning this year, but I do think it's somewhat crazy people can get an insane amount of votes but then lose because they get a big amount of jury votes. It's an interesting process...especially given have to pay to vote.
Thrilled? He was awful.
@@Bungle-UKfalse. Also just cause you don’t have good taste in music doesn’t mean you have to be rude. Also they’re non-binary so don’t say he, their pronouns are they/them. Get it right.
@@SeanPrevil I just wonder what is next. Age identity, race identity? If I identify myself as 12yo black boy ( although I'm adult white woman) will you accept my new "identity"?
For those who said that Juries are full of knowledge... Nope, they still base their votes on personal taste. No juries will vote Bob Dylan number 1, even his music are so good. A 3-7 or 2-8 system will be much better. Let the fan decide, the juries votes bring more fair to the system, but it should not be the decision factor like public votes. Fan love Charlie Puth music, although critics panned his early work. The fan also have ears, they can be the better decider, not juries
That’s me when I try to manipulate myself
So 2009-2014 televote was also actually Winner
So as 2017,2018,2021,2022
Wow Lena won the televote? I thought manga was the favorite that year
Keiino 😍🥰
very curious, most of them are male singers
What's the point in voting if the juries choose the winner and give them so many points that no other country will be able to reach them even if they have great result in the televote?
Now it is even more diffcult because Ukraine, and even Israel, get votes out of sympathy.
I've been saying since last year that people are going to stop voting when they realize their votes don't matter. You'd think the EBU would be concerned about that bc money.
@@sk70091But there are those that seem to love to lick the boot basically saying "who are we poor lowly people to decide anything". You know maybe things would turn out well, if those people followed their own opinion and stopped voting aswell (meaning both groups not voting and EBU losing money). That's not a serious thought, if that wasn't clear. I do seriously despise those who think our and their own tastes are lesser than hte jurys, music is subjective and even if it weren't who cares, let us have one thing. Also sadly some of those hold that opinion on jurys, because they feel like non eurovision fans will respect eurovision more and won't mock them for liking it (which is also pathetic).
Anyway, I already didn't vote this year, so I welcome others joining gladly. EBU doesn't care about words much, they care about money so "protest votes" make 0 sense.
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think the jury vote is also important!
Maybe there should be changes to make the televote impact bigger than the jury vote, however if we removed the jury vote completely the winner song could potentially be skewed due to politics or other external factors not related to the quality of the song.
Televote > jury
Its real EV winners 🏆
I’m so confused why average rankings and songwriters are showing up instead of the points..?
2014 was a mistake I pinned the points. About Denmark they never shared the points in the jury/tele only the average rank
@@ESCGiorgio ohh ok thanks!
2009 2010 2012 2024 the best
So only 5 of the 15 songs didn’t win overall. That not too bad.
In other world:
Sweden with 5 wins (1974, 1984, 1991, 1999, 2012)
Italy with 4 wins (1964, 1990, 2015, 2021)
Norway with 4 wins (1985, 1995, 2009, 2019)
The Netherlands with 4 wins (1957, 1959, 1969, 1975)
Finland with 2 wins (2006, 2023)
Ukraine with 2 wins (2004, 2022)
Russia with 2 wins (2008, 2016)
And finally - Croatia won for the first time ever in 2024
'15 and not 15'
lord salvador, who owned "total win" title and most highest points in esc history: 😐😐😐
The Netherlands was not in the final so we never no how it was then , mabyCroatia won or the Netherlands or nemo
0:21 That would have only been enough for SIXTH (6th) this year, but then again nothing about 2011 made sense lol
The most insane thing is there are 43 countries in 2011, and only 37+RotW in 2024
2011 is the biggest brain fuck I’ve ever seen 💀 I keep rewatching it and studying it because of how absurd it all was.
Basically no good song, like the best song (in my opinion) from that year wouldn’t even make it into my top 10 of any other year.
The scoring made absolutely no sense.
The televote and jury vote was sketchy beyond anything I’ve ever seen
Etc
@@logi-a Thats why I give Azerbaijan a pass mark on winning- someone had to win, they were acceptable.
Oh Devil. I'm the 666th person to give this the thumbs up. Oops.
still can't get how this masterpiece couldn't win. 0:53
Outdated and cheesy, feels like a joke song when it’s not
beyond me how il volo didn't get the jury vote
They were screwed over by the experimental way the jury and tele votes were combined in 2015. The next year it was changed to how it still is now.
That is the question I ask myself since 2015. That was exactly the song that the jury love. I like Mans a lot (actually he's even my personal winner from 2015) but I still think that Il Volo should have won in 2015. And after all these years it still hurts 😢
Without juries we had diaspora voting (mostly an issue for Turkey and Russia), block voting (ex-Yugoslav countries voting for each other, but also Greece+Cyprus, Scandinavia, Ireland-UK). I think juries should stay but the value of their points shouldn't be 50%, maybe 30%. Also, those jury members should be carefully chosen, unbiased experts.
We don’t have diaspora voting issue in Russia, we are banned hahaha
True 😂
@@gerelmuzraeva I am talking about 2000s
Turkey and Russia aren't even in the contest. could've chosen better examples lol
@@larsswig912 in 2000s they were participating
Look I get it. People get annoyed when the artist who has the most jury votes wins. But do you all remember how horrible and gimmicky the contest got in the 2000s? I know that it's kind of funny to watch these crazy performances but it got to the point that the performers/countries put the focus on spectacle instead of the quality of the song. With the jury vote, at least the focus shifted again more in favour of quality and most performances are songs again instead of a gimmick.
How Salvador getting first in televote with that song?
the last 4 years jury winners > last four years tele vote winners (tbf i like måneskin and gjon tears equally but ive listened to gjon tears more)
2023 & 2024 ❤❤❤ but my winner still nemo.. I love them all.
While not my favorite, 2016 wouls have been much more deserved.
Its truly ridiculous how much impact jury has even if public literally pays out od their pockets. It should have been 25-75 in public favour at the vary least.
Thank god for the juries
...? Did y'all hear something??