Eurovision 2024: What If the Televote was 75% and the Jury 25%!
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Eurovision 2024:
Albania: Besa - "TiTAN"
Armenia: Ladaniva - "Jako"
Australia: Electric Fields - "One Milkali (One Blood)"
Austria: Kaleen - "We Will Rave"
Azerbaijan: Fahree -
Belgium: Mustii - "Before the Party's Over"
Croatia: Baby Lasagna - "Rim tim tagi dim"
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - "Liar"
Czechia: Aiko - "Pedestal"
Denmark: Saba - "Sand"
Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
Finland: Windows95man - "No Rules!"
France: Slimane - "Mon Amour"
Georgia: Nutsa - "Fire Fighter"
Germany: Isaak - "Always on the Run"
Greece: Marina Satti - "Zari"
Iceland: Hera Bjork - "Scared of Heights"
Ireland: Bambie Thug - "Doomsday Blue"
Italy: Angelina Mango - "La noia"
Latvia: Dons - "Hollow"
Lithuania: Silvester Belt - "Lukltelk"
Luxembourg: Tali - "Fighter"
Malta: Sarah Bonnici - "Loop"
Moldova: Natalia Barbu - "In the Middle"
Netherlands: Joost Klein - "Europapa"
Norway: Gåte - "Ulveham"
Poland: Luna - "The Tower"
Portugal: Iolanda - "Grito"
San Marino: Megara - "11:11"
Serbia: Teya Dora - "Ramonda"
Slovenia: Raiven - "Veronika"
Spain: Nebulossa - "Zorra"
Sweden: Marcus & Martinus - "Unforgettable"
Switzerland: Nemo - "The Code"
Ukraine: Jerry Heil and Alyona alyona - "Teresa & Maria"
United Kingdom: Olly Alexander - "Dizzy"
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4th place would have 996p
I would love those changes but they are what they are.
I would love to see the televote weighted more heavily. But, given who came in 2nd place in the televote with a sudden 323 points (just less than Croatia's 337), it's a stark reminder of why we brought the juries back.
You mean 3x more than that!!!
What if the jurees could be 75% and televote 25%.. quality would win.
@@cjwhitmore1881thanks god🙏 that will not happen.. as you know, televote recognises commercial songs and not quality songs.
Baby Lasagna getting over 1000 points is a scenario I would have definitely loved to see
Max points that someone can get is 444
@@AlessandroLanna-yj5vg i doubt that
@@eeee8489 u can't really doubt that tho, it's math. 12 times 37 is 444...
This ESC season was just like a fever dream
More like a nightmare
@@ANGELIC_DIVA_No… more like a fever dream at the start, a bumpy train ride at the middle and a NIGHTMARE at the end.
It would’ve been a consistent fever dream for the entirety of the show if Netherlands continued competing in the grand final and if Croatia wins at the end of the final.
No matter what kind of voting you propose. Bambie Thug is always 6th😂
😂😂😂😂
The fact that Slimane did better in the televote
well his vocals cracked in the jury show
i also feel like he gained some extra support after it became known that he had stopped his prior rehearsal to hold a speech instead
His voice craked during jury show 😢
Do a 60/40 or a 66,6/33,3! I think it’s more of a realistic thing to be done from EBU.
I wanted to do a 60/40 but I don’t think the results would change that much ngl like 3-4 countries would change spots like Lithuania Greece would prob be higher the rest lowkey the same. And the winner probably the same
bro.. the ebu is not gonna change a working format what are you on about
@@ESCGiorgioI did the 40/60 last night and BL would have won
TBH its actually a bit more than 50/50 currently because of the introduction of letting Rest Of The World vote so televoters give 58 more points than the jury and i see the current system to be fair because 1. Ukraine 2022 and 2. If it’s a tie the one who got the most points from the televoters wins
The jury robbed Silvester and Marina
Silvester deserved so much more than 14th
@@szandorthe13th agree. We need to support his music now to show him love.
Switzerland's jury gave 12 points to Greece, 8 to Croatia. The Swiss public gave 4 to Greece and 10 to Croatia.
Croatia gave 0 jury points to Switzerland.
Exactly what I thought! Silvester deserved top 13 in juries, the song is so good!
Really? Where at?😮
I am Croatian, but my dissapointment with our pride and joy Baby Lasagna😻 not winning is by far outshined by my relief . We went through 48 h of hell, I hope it never happens again, but that’s on the EBU to ensure.
Congrast to overall winner Nemo🇨🇭 and public winner Baby Lasagna🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🫶😻
Where’s Eden and Joost?
Eden is 4th, Joost was disqualified and didn't compete in the final
Let's learn places
1 - first
2 - second
3 - third
4- *fourth*
that would've been better to be honest 💀
That's what get when you let it become a 100% televote semi. The jury will of course supports few jury friendly songs.
Naaah. I cant see a NQ being jury bait. Specially with Poland, Belgium, Iceland and San Marino around there. Televoting also supported Latvia and Portugal. There are problems with juries, but this is not one of them and I like we avoid more "Sorry, 0 points from the public" this way.
Surprisingly, this year televoting in semi finals was really loyal to jury oriented songs (like Latvia, Serbia and Portugal)
@@RaffGoodman I don't necessarily agree because semi one was weak so obviously Serbia had to make it ( that is why they finished 10th), but in semi 2 there were a lot of jury oriented songs that got left behind( Czechia and Denmark would have qualified if the juries were able to vote).
@@yuijo2772 there was no way for Czechia to receive many jury votes with such weak vocals. Denmark also didn't perform well, but yeah, jury could have helped her. So I actually don't think jury would have changed results much.
@@RaffGoodman I think they would have changed. I actually really like Serbia's entry this year, compared to last year's one this definitely deserved to qualify. But juries tend to be harsh on Serbia, and preforming on second spot wouldn't have helped her. Not to forget that juries usually go for Australia, whenever they can ahhaah
75/25 is what we use in Finland (UMK) and thats how Win95 won. (and after that quite a lot discussion bout the system)
the system failed, that is why Finland lost a great opportunity to finish top 10.
@@yuijo2772 with paskana? i think there were a lot of better songs imo, maybe would've finished slightly better than no rules at like 15th
@@yuijo2772No top 10 finish for the Finish
Ideal results!
You missed the fourth place. After 5th place is 3rd place.
No, he didn’t miss anything
You want the 4th placing? Ask Benjamin Netanyahu to show it to you :)
@@babygrogu845count to five
How can he show a country that doesn't exists
@@piuvpiuv but it is confirmed to be one, why deny it?
Didn't you forget something?
Nope
the netherlands
nothing of importance was forgotten 😌
Many people doing these vids are doing it on purpose, it's quite lame.
They continue to bully Eden.
Shows that you're mad about the score Eden got
Butthurted tried to change the reality to his fitting :D
me when i don't look up the stats and just yap about things superficially
Wait... who was 4th?
Eden ❤
Did I miss something here?
Yes. the best song!! this retard censored it.
Too much of a child to include all contestants?
Too much of a money-lover to not give a shit about children being killed?
You don't know how to count? After the 5th place comes the 4th place
You don't know how to lie? You have been good at it. Apparently Palestine children do not exist in your worldwiew.
@@nmvs1981 fake news
everyone is forgetting about how eurovision started.... just jury votes
public won in 2021, 2022?
They meant back in 1956
yes and jury votes first came when? 2014? 2015 something like that. A 50/50 split is the most fair thing we have gotten when we think that Eurovision was for the majority of time only Jury votes.
@@rxptar 1956
Well as french I'm glad we don't have to switch our 4th place in real life with... you know 😅
In my opinion the 75% televote votes and 25% jury votes would be the ideal system for the semi-finals
Math isn't mathing
Why?
which formula did you use to get the numbers, cuz my calculator can't by any means known man (myself) get to them. Might be a skill issue on my side tho, dunno.
Math is really not mathing here
I just recalculated Nemo's points. I don't know what the plan here was but did you multiply his televoting points by exactly 2,92?? Why?
@@thombogd1022 no
1/4 is the jury voting the total is 37x58, 2,146 so the 3/4 of tele is 37x58x3+58= 6,496.
Then u calculate the tele percentage it’s
365 to 2,200 (or smth I don’t remember 38x58) and the percentage is like 10.5%. 10.5% of 6496 is 666 so 1031 overall. In the video it’s less cause I didn’t use 38x58 but 37x58 cause I forgot rest of the world as tele but it wouldn’t change anything just the scores
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WE ALL know who go 2, the judges were silenced, NOT the people
the light against the darkness
Please keep making list videos of 2024 or else I die of PED😭
I will try😭❤️
Ahahahah true
@@ESCGiorgioyeah the most disparate video pls
Bye i dont know what to do, i keep enter to escworld, but theres nothing to do, esc is over
These results would fix everything
Literally most people barely moved, people are just projecting that Netherlands and Croatia didnt win. Put that blame on the EBU
So true thank you!!! 😂😂
Honestly, I really think the Jury shouldn't have so much power over the contest. They should only be allowed to give out 8 or 10 as a minimum and not 12.
Thank you so much for opening a discussion about what should be done! I feel like many esc account are beeing quiet because they want to secure their ability to get in the eurovision press room also next year. And so they are afraid to speak up! We as a community need to demand change. Otherwise this will happen again.
I like his song and I hate to keep say this, but the change is that Baby Lasagna should have been disqualified for plagiarizing two artists in one song, perhaps the jury decided to not vote for him knowing the allegiances of plagiarism.
But even without plagiarizing anyone, the song and performance of Nemo was among every other song and artist. Thankfully most of the jury made justice because Rim Tim Tagi Dim should have never get through the semifinals, but it was the public's choice and they broke the rules for maintain your interest on the ESC.
The only thing that needs to be changed is Corruption in televote, EBU should investigate it. If it wasn't for that then Baby Lasagna would have definitely won.
@@fabiumtaurinorum5573 Nonsense.
@@fabiumtaurinorum5573wow you're so full of sh*t
Eden is the best after Croatian!
Says who? The money or Hitler in his graveyard?
@@nmvs1981 I say and millions of eurovision fans
@@jt19 Everyone booed her?
@@piuvpiuvso what? She became second in televoting.
Why are people complaining? The juries have always been present and the winner has been the jury winner just twice in the past few years, with kalush and maneskin being the televote winners. Juries make the contest less predictable and give chance to different songs to shine more. Without the juries, Portugal would never have the chance to get top 10.
It doesn't mean they decide fair
did the swiss guy rly deserve 30 sets of 12 pts 💀💀 cmon he came 5th with the televoting for gods sake
Cause Portugal is piece of sh*t
@@visokilogrami yes, they deserved it cause they did a breathtaking performance, they have unreal vocals and they are the cutest person ever. Juries give credit to art more than fun and I think it’s more than fair.
@@visokilogrami and by the way, Croatia ended up 3rd with the juries so I don’t know what you’re complaining about.
Thank god it was 50/50 then
I hope there will some changes. Televoting is a huge amount of money in the game. If the audience realizes that their vote, year after year, doesn't matter, they will become discouraged and they will stop participating in it. And the Eurovision must be profitable, on various aspects. We need to limit the possibility of a situation in which the public's voice cannot change anything.
Exactly... I voted 20 times this year and spend money on that.... it ended up not making any difference. That really feels like watching your money go up in smoke. Definitely don't intent to vote again unless they change the system and televotes get more weight
You missed no4, just wanted to let you know😂
Shh don't make the antisemitic idiots face reality they don't tend to like it
That is a real outcome.
50/50 is better
i like this point system more. The jury is ridiculous.
Why don't they award points for placing rather than combined/ jury televote number. 12 points for 1st, 10 points for 2nd, 8 points for 3rd, 7 points for 4th, 6 points for 5th, 5 points for 4th and so on. Switzerland came 1st with the jury, and 5th in the televote, Croatia 1st in the televote and 3rd with the jury. Switzerland 17 Croatia 20
this is the true restult. (imo)
Yessss Silverster deserved better
Better results
El problema no es 50-50, el problema es que el jurado solo sabe apreciar algunos estilos musicales y por eso siempre los puntua alto, menospreciando a los otros generos musicales
Zorra es un genero musical?
@@nmvs1981Zorra is a religion 🙏
that is better 70 vote 25 jury
Can someone please explain how this 75% televote 25% jury vote works?
How does this system work? It’s a bit confusing
2:52 I think you messed up the numbers...
Oh, and she who shall not be named ends 4th here?
Yeap. I hope by next year the whole situation in Gaza has come to its end, cause if it hasnt...oh boy its only gonna get lot worse in Eurovision 2025
Better voting results than what was showcased
The juries this year were among the most lopsided in history, that's all. If we go by the years of the current system, normalize by amount of countries we will get the following for the highest jury score and distance to the second place among the juries:
2016- 281, 95 difference.
2017- 335, 91.
2018- 232, 15.
2019- 222, 6.
2021- 253, 18.
2022- 261, 14.
2023- 340, 163!.
2024- 365!, 147.
Note that 2017 was both a jury and televote winner by huge margin.
In the recent two years the juries selected the winner almost entirely.
Even more perfect:90% televoters 10% jury votes
So UK, Luxembourg, Germany, Portugal and Switzerland would fall into depression. I don't want that. - Croat
Good ending
im confused how this math is working
How did you fix this?
“Hmmm… that’s a wonderful idea!” - Flowey
Now that’s what I call the good ending!
Dont forget Jury saved the show to not have political winner
that video is the perfect example why we shouldnt do that
That's not how math works.
Uhm then what is wrong about it ?
@@ESCGiorgio While the proportions are correct (75/25), the result isn't normalized the same way they are with the 50/50 system, and that's why we get these huge amount of points. Instead of multiplying the public votes by 3, you should've multiplied it by 1.5 and the jury points by 0.5 so that we could also compare the results with the past editions.
That way, Croatia wins with 667.5 points. I know, the .5 looks ugly, but at least we can now compare the result with previous results, like Salvador Sobral's 758 points.
@@lilypad7851 aaaa yeah maybe it would look better in the eye
I would not be angry about this but it did make me realize something. Nemo was my favorite act this year and Baby Lasagna was my second. I had thrown more votes towards Baby Lasagna because I wanted them to win, and it was so jarring when my actual favorite won (they almost never do, and yes I still voted for Nemo). Now seeing who I tried to let win at the top makes me sad that my favorite lost XD maybe I would have been sad either way but idk because this is after the contest and I have gotten much happier that FINALLY my favorite song took home the trophy
If there was no block voting then we could have 100% televote, stop block voting & then we maybe could have it in the future
Eurovision 2024 results in Vidbir system?
I always hated the jury to have so much to say compared to the audience vote.
So you want more trash to win this for your own joy and entertainment? You forget that by voting you are helping the EBU to make more shit than what they have done so far.
This scores woild be worse. Fortunately jury points affecting half of the scores.
A year to never forget I guess.... I uploaded my top with comments as well!
you forgot eden
Did I 💋
Better Televore is 80%
Better ngl
The 50/50 split is more than fair, you still got the televote only semis and that’s itself disastrous for actual “quality songs”.
greece was below average
Greece and Armenia were the bundle of joy from all this circus, Deserved higher!
My favourite entry
How ironic that in a video that emphasizes the televote you chose to ignore the song that the audience loved so much. More of the lame, childish bullying. 😂
Maybe y’all should stream it then if you loved it so much, oh wait it’s flopping in comparison to songs that got 10th-15th lmao
@@noramadaras2594 You can't really use streaming numbers to compare anything, neither this year nor the one before
@@Lilo-of-Rivia uh yes you can, it’s been used as a stat consistently since Spotify came out, this is just you coping
Look better
HMM NO THANK YOU
Abolish juries.
Thank you
Abolish televote!
No, then it just becomes a high school popularity contest with the bigger populations always winning. Totally unfair
Yeaahhh how the vote turned out this year the televote has no room to talk
No, juries are guilty 2 years in a row of choosing the winner and with a big gap from 1st to 2nd jury place.
But televote giving points to countries instead of songs is even worse.
@@ff7_fan298 You can't vote for ypur own country
Где Ізраїль ??
Maybe televote-only would be a good idea if they also find a way to prevent countries from cheating. *cough* Azerbaijan 2011 *cough* you-know-who 2024 *cough*
AUSTRIA ROBBEEEEED😭😭😭😭
doesn't change much. People love to complain. Some years, the jury winner is the best song and other years, it's the televote. Jury favourites were very good this year (admittedly not last year though) and Croatia did very well with jury. Televoting was hijacked by politics this year.
On a personal level, there's about ten songs I would have been happy winning this year, but ultimately Switzerland resonated with me the best. To combine pop, opera and rap within seconds, while balancing on a spinning beyblade with no help, knowing full well that falling would derail the whole performance, was glorious. The lyrics were affecting and inspiring.
No to 75/25. That is a complete bullshit.
Giorgio voglio ringraziarti per il grande lavoro che hai fatto in questi mesi con l'Eurovision ti ho seguito sempre con interesse❤❤❤❤❤
Don't mke these videos they only spark anger in the fans for some reason
I’m just wondering, did you multiply their original televote scores by 3?
Yes
@@ESCGiorgiobut Austria received 5 points from public and you put 23
how come so many people watch eurovision yet theres only 200-300 ish votes
POINTS, not votes. Votes are converted into points. Each country gives 12,10,8-1 points to the top 10 most voted countries. 1st place gets 12, 2nd place gets 10, 3rd place gets 8 etc.
A nightmare
I prefer these results over the actual ones
Just bend the rules until Croatia wouls have won 😂
Croatia, Austria, Lithuania and Spain were robbed :(
You got robbed when you went to school, because you learned nothing!
Spain and Lithuania are not even little robbed...
Kaleen didn't sing well tbh...
If you already make such vids, you should make them reasonable and not produce antisemitism
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I love this much than the official one
SO MUCH BETTER
Georgia Lithuania and greece great songs but bad results
Bambie thug is always the 6th 🤣
So symbolic
😂😂😂😂
Let's keep the voting system like it is please
so, what is THE POINT to vote?
Croatia should send Baby Lasagna back to Eurovision for next year. I wonder how the votes would have been allocated if the Netherlands wasn't disqualified.
Personally, I hope he is done with this shit show 😅
I'll just follow him in his musical journey and support him there, I'm pretty much done with eurovision with all the drama and people who are spending money to vote & it doesn't even do anything
Also it would be interesting to know the results using old voting system (before 2016)
Oh YESSS I d love to do that video
This is so unnecessary dishonest and stupid lol
Scusate, ma che conti ha fatto per arrivare a questi risultati?
Per esempio Angelina ha ottenuto 104 punti dal televoto e 164 dalla giuria. Nel sistema proposto ha sempre 164 dalla giuria, ma i punti del televoto diventano 303.
Non capisco il conto, ha moltiplicato i punti del televoto per 2,91. Mentre sarebbe stato corretto moltiplicarli per 3, per mantenere la proporzione 3:1=75:25.
Anche se, a mio avviso, sarebbe stato ancora meglio dimezzare i voti della giuria, onde evitare punteggi finali monstre
Dove sbaglio? Che conto viene fatto per ottenere il moltiplicatore x2,91 ?
Although juries condemned Greece i am happy that because of the juries Nemo won.