Bryce Young Week 2 vs New Orleans Analysis
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This video backs up what I was already thinking. He’s got some mistakes but he’s not the reason we’re 0-2. 0 separation and long developing plays and there just isn’t enough time or space to get the job done. Can’t believe people are giving up on Bryce already.
Panthers fans are irrationally taking out years of trauma on this current team. Even Reich, who is deserving of criticism doesn't deserve all the crap he's been getting.
I don’t think we’ve faced bad teams so far. Bryce looks good. He’s not getting great separation from WRs or TEs. He’s also getting a lot of pressure in his face because the routes are long developing. So he’s missing some throws by just a bit since he’s being rushed as they bear down in him.
Agreed. I think it doesn't help that the Online is plagued with injuries and just lost Brady Christiansen as well. That leaves Cade Mays who was elevated from a full back roll, just ok Taylor Moton and 2 rookies in Chandler Zavala, Icky and Bozeman. We "may" get Austin Corbett back in a few weeks. Maybe. And as shown from the tape the schemes are not helping our WR corp. But this is a offense that's still finding it's rhythm. It's gonna take a little more time but Bryce definitely isn't the issue. Don't get me wrong he's learning as well and is not without fault but when given the opportunity he is delivering on his promise of skill sets.
Every team has fans like that. They want immediate results from a rookie or new QB. It means they don't really understand the game.
@@dbsti3006man i been sayin dis bro dey jus dont get it
I've been waiting for this one
Same here
Weekly dose of 19 and our weighted ankle wrs getting roasted gotta love it!
15:14 Also, props to Young for snagging an errant snap. Very calm, never let that throw him off the reads and the timing. He didn’t take off until everything had expired.
Bryce demonstrates good metrics, will rise.
No props for lining behind right guard on a potential scoring play and then getting sacked 😂😂😂
Frank Reich had same problem in Indy.
Loooong developing plays that provide no threat to a secondary and are not in sync with the drop back, with a line that can’t protect long enough
to be fair you are describing HALF of the NFL offenses. there are like 10 teams with a reliable passing game.
@@danielwing8019 I’m just saying watch the routes, they aren’t on time with the qb drop back. If he would let it go on time at the top of his drop, the receivers are still developing their route
The slow developing plays are an issue, that's easy to see
Yeah, this is why Kyle Shanahan is undisputed #1 for me. He knows how to set Purdy up to get the ball out quick
Reich wasted at least 12 downs against the Saints calling run plays right uo the middle for maybe 5 total yards
Saw a chart showing that Bryce so far has been the most accurate qb when throwing to an open receiver but his receivers get open at one of the lowest rates in the nfl
They get open at the lowest rate in the nfl
Yeah cause they’re awful outside of #19
@@NoonyJW🤡
That's because he's only throwing 4 yard passes
@@NoonyJWlooks like they’re all awful # 19 has experience but seems to lack the athleticism from getting older
J.T. is doing the best, most entertaining football show anywhere. His analysis surpasses anything on any mainstream network and he has fun with it. Bravo, bro. Keep up the awesome work with the channel.
100% Agree... I also enjoy WagerTalk TV haha
For real
Frank Reich is a 41-40-1 head coach and he’s showing why with his outdated ineffective play calling.
Exactly. This, exactly. Reich is a great guy, a good man. Smart coach? No.
It's literally the best record a Panthers coach has had in decades. Progress!
@@dave6455That’s cap Ron Rivera was 76-63-1 as the Panthers coach.
My god you guys love to repeat yourself. 31 other teams also complaining about their head coach. Y’all love using the head coach as a scapegoat
Thank God he’s off the colts man I was frustrated for years with his lack of innovation, and now we have Steichen. Mwah
You can see here how a guy might deteriorate over time: looking to run every play, forcing the ball in to places, looking over his shoulder to protect his blindside, etc.
Let’s be real, we all clicked this video for “number 19” 😊
Hahahaha
Deff played a a part
Naww I clicked to see my Saints lock up🔒⚜️😂
I clicked for JT
Thielen actually was decent against this game
I don't get how anybody can see him as a No. 1 overall prospect. He's Teddy Bridgewater, who's an excellent backup but he's not a No. 1.
Facts! He's way too laid back and conservative. This isn't Alabama. It's the NFL. There's a cap and draft order involved. He's not gonna have all pro WRs on both sides and all pro OL from L to R. Just not gonna happen. Dude needs some dog in him. You're no1 overall...we're supposed to see some X factor shine through here and there despite the subpar talent
Staged league bs, entertainment not sport
Saints dbs are simply better than panthers wrs
the panthers have the worst WRs in the league
It’s that simple. People making this a Bryce issue are weird
Playcalling is also pretty bad.
Favorite channel on CZcams. Been waiting on this one
Love the videos & I just subscribed. #KeepPounding
I just started watching football last year and I found this channel this year and it’s great the way you explain the game and everything is so easy to understand love the content. But damn the fields videos are so damn frustrating cause I’m a bears fan
JT! On a roll with the content. I'm learning so much. Would love to see a Pickett episode this week if you get a chance.
i’ve been waiting for this
These MNF games were pretty hard to watch, especially this one.
Literally just searched for this. Amazing stuff!!
I was at this game and all I could think of was “number 19”🤣🤣
Care to explain the number 19 meme to me? 😅
Love the content bro this is probably one of my favorite channels after the Justin fields video
Thanks JT!
just found this page and i love it haha. finally someone who knows concepts that i can share my misery with
will you do a tlaw and burrow one? So interested in knowing what happened last weekend
god I am addicted to these
Same
I love the extra commentary on all players the field and not just the qb
You’re an absolute machine
All of us here in Charlotte are feeling cautiously optimistic. IT seems like the team's problems aren't due to Bryce's skill. We were hype as hell going into the season, but the pundits and people with more level heads are probably more correct: We used a lot of capital to get our guy, and obviously that comes at a cost. Expect this team to get better and better throughout the year and onward as we genuinely get to build a team around Bryce.
I hope it's the new surroundings, building chemistry, tough defences, banged up online and bad receivers and I still think Bryce is our guy .
Let's pray it turns around
I think yall gonna be starting the red rocket soon. Dalton actually impressed me last year on the Saints. He just seems to have some real bad luck sometimes.
@@PoboyMusic to save Bryce from the current situation or because you think Dalton is better?
Not all.. I'm real wary at this point. His size isn't so much the problem, but he's so timid out there. He should be nfl ready, at least moreso than the other rookie qbs taken after him
@@thomasstephenson4058to save face for bryce imo
Yeah I was looking forward to this one
I subscribed after the Justin Fields video. First!! Digging the content
Can’t wait to watch
Losing confidence in the coaching staff and gm quickly watching this mess. You know Bryce is gonna get criticized by all the talking heads like tua before Miami hired McDaniel.
Great vid as always JT! just curious, could be completely wrong, but at 19:33-:36 feels like it would be pretty tough but he could layer it to 81 there? No great options like most of the game but wondering if that wouldn't have maybe been a better option than whatever the hell 15 was attempting to do.
Appreciate the vid!
I know Mingo is an athletic freak but I honestly didn’t see him as a crisp and quick route runner. Thought he was a reach for that early 2nd. He could develop for Bryce but yeah I don’t see it really. I’m sure he could be a decent WR2 overtime though.
love these videos. great work. do you not know the names of these recovers tho? i see u refer to thielen and mingo as 19 and 15 or “the receiver.
He hates thielen idk about mingo tho 😂
He knows the names I think. I’ve heard him say thielens name before I think. He usually refers to the players by there number tho but every now and then a name will drop.
I love the analysis J.T. you were spot on.I wish that you were the OC on the Panthers.Thank you for putting this excellent video together.I look forward to more of your expertise in the future.
We’ve got a great oc, he’s just handcuffed by the hc
Man I’m learning so much.
When you said “when you’re going down, just throw it away”. Reminded me of when he hurt his ac joint at Bama doing that.
The one at 17:00 hurts the most IMO because the route concept is ASS 100% agree with you there. But once it breaks down.... you gotta make a play, and Mingo becomes WIDE open when Davis slides down to tackle Bryce. Just throw it man... frustrating offense so far that has mistakes from everyone honestly. Have to scheme better, have to get open better, and have to throw better when you get the opportunity.
Also, in my honest opinion too, you have to GM/scout for this team better too. Not because there was a lack of trying to bring guys in (2 FA WR from a weak FA class, FA TE, and a 2nd round pick WR), but really hard to say it's totally fine/acceptable. Comparing to Texans guys, most would say their group is better than ours, but Collins taken after TMJ, Dell taken after Mingo, Robert Woods is also a 10th yr vet player, FA TE in Schultz vs FA TE Hayden Hurst... Gotta either scout better, or use your scheme to fit the players better. No way you should be saying you missed on everyone when teams drafting later than you are hitting still at the same positions.
I disagree with that first play. Sure it is touch, but it is a lollipop that allows the defender to run the route, as you say, better than the receiver.
When the defense understands what plays bryce does its pretty easy to jump the route. If adams broke it inside instead of going outside he breaks his defender ankles
I’m waiting for the Trevor Lawrence one. Can’t wait
Great Video! I love the way you broke it down. As a Panthers Fan, I can't pass heavy judgement on Bryce when plays are taking too long to develop, and receivers can't get separation from defenders. He will get better.
Love your videos on Bryce so far. Always bringing up interesting topics. Appreciate the content as always, cannot wait to see more on Young.
Gonna make any vids on Derek Carr?
Love the vids!!
Awesome content. Those anticipation throws are impressive. Once Carolina can get some more separation + cleaner pocket we will see what he can do.
8:25 Just throw the screen to Laviska Shenault here and give him a chance! He is the most dynamic skill player we have (supposedly our version of Deebo Samuel). BRO HAD ZERO TARGETS. No excuse for him not getting the rock AT LEAST 7 times a game.
bryce is just figuring things out, he needs to realize he cant create a big play at all times and its good to take chunk yardage instead of tryna be prime cam
Why are you acting like Viska is Justin Jefferson? He's not that good my man
@chrislambert2001 he's averaging a first down per reception.
@@SamuraiBuns first of all, what does this even mean, and 2nd of all he has 2 catches for 16 yards this year
@chrislambert2001 it means production like that you don't only have him on the field for one snap a game. And his career average is 10 per reception.
Very nice intro 👌
Him making the slo mo noise on Theilens route😂
And people talked down on Cam who was Carolinas QB 🐐
JT don't miss. Keep it up, beast.
Great analysis as always JTOS. Frank Reich ain't it. Making BY a static drop back passer of 10 yard routes makes zero sense. They need SCHEMES to your excellent point. Pre-snap motion to compensate for the lack or perimeter speed. Misdirection. Change of direction. The likely outcome on this trajectory is BY being broken physically and or mentally. I say let the OC play call. This ain't it. This is malpractice as it stands.
Did Carolina not watch film of Thielen last season?
After watching the Fields videos, Bryce has such clean mechanics
Bryce would be so good if he wasn’t drafted to the panthers lol
What worse is we can’t even tank this year because we gave have our 1st round pick to the bears
@@ballsballsballs3617and he would be even worse off with the bears.
@@ballsballsballs3617💔
I'm curious; how do you get this footage? Is it like public viewing from some where or do you have a plug kind of situation?
Could be the All22. Nfl±
Gotta wonder what the panthers coaches are seeing and thinking when they’re watching film
Ty for this, really makes me see where to put my support... #TeamBryce
Need a mac jones breakdown
Frank Reich needs to stop calling plays. Let the OC do his fucking job. Bryce will be good when the receivers create separation and the play calling is good
I'm just sad he got hurt. Now we have 2 of the 3 exciting young top-5 drafted rookie QB's out with injury already. That anticipation on throws does show what everyone was so excited about, but there's certainly a lot of learning to come if he can stay in one piece.
Do you have friends in the Teams? Or do you live in San Diego/Coronado?
saints corners are really good imo. Taylor and Adebo are 2 of the best young corners in the league. Marshon is still playing at a high level.
Bryce Young is still learning on-the-job and showing development. There are several problems but give Bryce a top 10 receiver - someone who can get separation, and he will throw darts. From the line to the play-calling, those improvements can give him more comfort in the pocket and develop as a passer. These things take time.
This! I just hope they keep him encouraged as a rookie QB and it doesn't negatively affect his development in the long run. But just 2 weeks in he is showing improvements and learning from mistakes.
@@Mightyxenos agreed. He is also quite mature when it comes to media and press, which is character you can't buy.
@@bull_city_sports_cards Agreed. I think that was another thing that drew him to the staff so I think he'll be fine.
GOOD STUFF 👍🏽
Random question as a Vikings fan, is it possible the panthers just couldn’t get tape of the Vikings’s receivers from the last couple years?
lol are you saying that because 19 has BEEN struggling to get separation for years now?
been watching you for a year or so now, keep up the good work. as a panthers fan, i suppose it’s
good to know that bryce isnt the reason our offense sucks,
it’s just everyone else, including the OC 😭😭
Idk why the scheme is so bad, he’s from the rams coaching. So it’s just like what is he not translating to Carolina
Thanks for the support
@@andrewbell8164 Thomas Brown isn't calling the plays. HC Frank Reich is.
JT - the play at 6:20 in this video...what I can't help but notice is that it looks like C-1 man, and the free safety is lined up on the opposite hash from where there's two receivers. #2 runs the over, #1 looks like a post or a go...seems like a play Bryce could've let rip if he made it to that progression...not that I blame him for taking the open throw on the over, I guess I'm asking more about if #1 running a deep vertical against that look is an alert route that Young could've anticipated or not.
2:04 that's immaculate defensive positioning. You reckon if bryce stared at where he was gonna throw long enough
2 wr in the area so he could've thrown to either the wr1 or wr2 and the wr2 ran a slow route so it messed up the timing which led to a incompletion
@@jordan1x405 The guy who made the play also wasn't looking at Bryce the whole time so where he was looking had no bearing on whether or not the he made the play.
Why would he have to look off the safety against single high with the safety 20 yards away? 😂
@theredguy92 because unless they're just gambling, aka his second int as a pro, because Bates didn't respect their deep threat, that's how you play football. Bates will definitely get exposed by a team this year for that no doubt
I still LOL at #19 crying about the 1 time he had any separation because of broke. Coverage. He would be a good 3rd option for a team at this point.
What really sucks is there aren't a lot of great options for WR FAs next season. I wouldn't mind at all seeing Curtis Samuel come back or Tee Higgans come in...
we need better perimeter players
I feel like that first pass to Thielen could've been closer to the sideline. A bit underthrown by Bryce Young.
Yeah that wasn’t a “perfect” pass like he tried to make it seem
@@Semi_11 Now if Thielen was supposed to be running horizontally closer to the 40 yard line, I can see how Bryce's pass was perfect. Maybe Thielen just rounded his route too much at the top.
Here for the 19 slander
Gotta say as a fan who was at this game, the playcalling was embarrassing. Frank Reich needs to get off his high horse and hand the reigns to the OC to make playcalls
Colts fan here. Frank has lost it at calling. I honestly don’t understand what Carolina seen what they seen in Indy these last few years and said he’s our guy.
Panthers need to check in with the Lions on Jameson Williams for Bryce.
Yo, I thought that too.
On the second play Bryce had chark open for the Ted
What video u looking at or are u legally blind???
@@TheFleetwood7043rd play, mybad
yea…. why didn’t we just tank last year while managing to keep CMAC and DJ Moore 🤦🏻♂️ we wouldn’t be in this mess
No tank at the bank played play to win losers lose gtfoh with that strategy !
@@richardhincemon ahh yes and look how our fucking offense is smuck 🤦🏻♂️ probably on the bandwagon to hire Wilks i bet.
@@donaldduck2756Correct!
#19 The Rub route king🤴 Deep route disabled.
I watched this game live. The play calling is horrendous and the WRs are prob the worst in the league from what ive seen. Miles Sanders is a solid back but he's rarely gonna give u those explosive plays they need. Also that left tackle they drafted last year is unfortunately not looking so great. Bryce has made some mistakes but they got major holes at every position so this is gonna be a ruff year for Bryce Young and this offense.
Hey are you covering Jones tomorrow night? Please say yes so I can watch more tape on our OL getting absolutely destroyed 🫡
I honestly think that if Carolina still had Moore and CMC to give him good targets and a good run game, we'd be looking at a 2-0 Bryce Young and not 0-2 Bryce Young.
as-is, the offensive playbook is not built with receivers that are so outclassed by defenses. they need creative routes to get people open, not running 3 people into 2x~3x coverage each play
Agree 💯. As much as I hate to say it, we shouldve traded Burns instead of DJ. Our defense would still be good enough, and our offense wouldnt struggle nearly as much
@@AFerglow-key it does look like they should have traded Burns because our offense already struggled enough then trading away our best WR didn't help.
I like Burns alot but at the moment I'm not sure if luvu would be able to do what he's doing without Burns taking up some attention.
@@samuelgilbert5527true but look at our dline as it is young and fast (outside houston) barno had a great preseaon and DJ johnson was solid
100% - the playcalling is there and Young is showing flashes but we've traded away so much talent. A bit of a nothing though cause it'd be really hard to get Young without trading away at least Moore (Maybe package Moore/Burns + another decent defender and a 1st or something or just get really lucky with QBs in draft.)
CMC is a great fit in SF (anyone with talent really is) but he'd be doing so much for this offense that needs someone to actually get open and make defenses have to guard against both pass and run. Blocking is meh and run game is not there, and neither is the separation so it's entirely scheme + QB accuracy to make the offense move which is asking a lot of Bryce.
@@TheMightyBone it's gonna come down to getting the run game started and getting the ball laviska because he honestly is the most explosive player we have on offense at the moment.
We honestly could have kept CMC with the trade of DJ in the off-season it seems like unless the players we drafted pan out.
#19 and #15 don’t even put any effort in their route when Lattimore is guarding them , the ball ain’t going their way . Lol
Can anyone tell me who this guy is? I can’t find anything in the channel description … 🤷🏻♂️
Don’t I say my name every video?
Run the damn ball.
Dude REALLY doesn't like Thielen 🤣
Bruh, in the first clip he’s got a receiver breakin in the middle of the field. All he has to do is shift his body to left a hair, get an angle an throw a low ball across the middle that receiver can get down a grab safely.
In 2nd clip he LITERALLY throws the ball across his body an across the field, this is a MAJOR no no. That pass shoulda been picked or tipped easily by the guy in between the receiver a the qb.
Frank needs to take some plays from madden because they look better than what I just watched.
We got soft and told him to chill on 19 now he don't wanna be real 😩😂
Unfortunately for the kid, the Saints defense is on a historic run right now. They have no weaknesses on any level, barring injury.
4:48 😅
Hopefully it doesn't take the Panthers 5 years to upgrade the Offensive coordinator and WRs.
The OC is a shanahan/mcvay protege, Reich is calling the plays tho
Pick and choose your content
Maybe he need power to call choice routes
This one makes me feel better
I don’t completely disagree with his assessment of the Panther’s offense or Bryce’s performance but I can’t help but feel like Cj Stroud wouldn’t have gotten as many excuses made for him. If Cj had the day Bryce had I feel most of the blame would’ve been placed on him.
Absolute facts! Remember when Panthers first pivoted away from him to Bryce....Sports media literally ran an entire smear campaign on Stroud. Said he was dumb. Can't read defenses. Not coachable. Arrogant. Blah blah. Meanwhile he's taller, heavier, better deep ball, better ball placement....had more TDs, more yards, higher completion percentage and fewer ints. Said all that to say this. Young is not a #1 overall talent. He's gonna take a lot more development than what they said to play at this level. Play calling, separation and OL are all factors but again....if he's #1 overall...he's supposed to have an X factor that shines through (at times) through all of that and no one has seen it. I'm not excited about Dalton starting Sunday but I'm thinking the offense is gonna look a bit more competent with him being experienced. There might be some plays that don't go exactly the way the coach called it and that's fine as long as the chains move.
Let's be honest, the Panthers coaching staff dont know what they're doing with scheme either
Oh god.
19 still catching strays with the “low mph” comments
Worst Sluggo route I ever seen in my life 😭