Is a Digital Dash Worth It?
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As the miata gets more and more modified, we need to be able to monitor more and more engine vitals. We’re going to install a digital dash in the miata so we can keep an eye on EVERYTHING, right from the dash! Will it look good or will the clean aesthetics of the dash be ruined? Let’s find out!
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"This is how you know I'm a car guy..."
brakes singing as he stops
That would aggressive pads
Extra street cred when your pads screams and you're a car guy..... as long as they're performance/track brake pads.
@@Christianc95c so my bad pads don’t count? Damn.
@@Christianc95c I have Wilwoods, and oh god they can be so loud when casually stopping lol.
@@hipster_tacos SAME
Zach: "I want to keep my eye on a lot of important things"
Also Zach: *Removes his oil pressure gauge*
If it’s a problem and u hide it there isn’t a problem anymore
@@DaxanDaxter if a knock happens then just turn up the radio
Hey doesn't have a fuel gage either
@@DaxanDaxter I drive a bmw it didn't even come with those
@@DaxanDaxter someone had to say it
Its probably just me, but the response rate on the dash isn't what I'd like.
yeahh... especially the delay on tacho and lack of functioning speedo... really disappointing tbh, rather just have a pillar guages with colorful backlights lol
and the speedo isnt working
I agree. The digital tach in my Si is terrible. It only runs at like 30hz and is slightly behind where the revs actually are.
And then you have the digital speedo on like every car these days that runs at like 1hz.
Yeah its like there are not 360hz monitors already
It's a Raspberry Pi driven thing, and to use the GPU properly is going to take a lot of expensive programmer time.
New cars have nVidia graphics cards and large teams of programmers to make it happen. Give it a few years and the enthusiast solutions will catch up, but it will take some time.
9:43 Everytime you get into your car: “Before we drive off, just wait a few minutes for Windows to load up”
Windows 98
Didn’t actually take a few minutes and your supposed to let your car get warm before driving anyways
@@jamesmoore716 how many people warm up their car for 5 minutes before moving off? 0.0000001%
@@notmenotme614 they should.
@@zenkiethan in real life, you’d do it for the first week. Then realise it’s a pain in the ass every time you drive somewhere. You can beat simply turning the ignition on and driving off straight away.
“Look at all my gauges, look at all my data”
Car nerds everywhere: 🤤🤤🤤
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Noice
12:25 😎
I read this comment right when he said it
expect he doesn't have one the most important ones......
The title could Literally say “is butter on toast worth it?” And I would still watch it and love every second of the content.
And the awnser to that is yes
@@maxlithium1190 always worth it
Thanks
@nola7560 nola7560 nah I did the brake delete kit in my truck
@nola7560 nola7560 nah, I did the Fred flintstone conversion kit I make 600hp
"Megasquirt"
Always makes me laugh.
Sister company of Big Jizz
car people: I want more gauges, MORE
Aviators: we want less gauges, LESS.
I guess it depends on the plane but yeah. Haha! Honestly, I like all of the gauges in my plane and love planes so I want my car to have a ton of gauges too.
U really need 4 gauges
For a group c monster
You only really need the 6-pack. Everything else is just extra.
Glass cockpit ftw!
@@CarGuyCole360 What's the 6-pack ?
“look at all my gauges, look at all my data”
*mph stuck at 0*
So the miata ECU cant read the RPM and speed?
Maybe just needs the GPS set up first
Facts I was like bro you can’t even see how fast you’re going like isn’t that one if not the most important gauge to have working?
@@michaelfiorentino5893 Not exactly. If you drive a lot you get a feel for how fast you're going in the city---especially if there are other cars around you.
Can't say the same for track as I never been but I feel that's not very critical either.
Yep, also unless I missed it. A speedometer running off GPS is bad, especially if you lose satellite coverage
it’s gonna be a sad day when the “is selling your project car worth it” episode comes
Fucking good,can’t wait for him to move on to cooler cars
@@bryceheppler7181 bruh
@@bryceheppler7181 I really don't like you right now. 😐
@@TDawg0702 I mean,sorry,just don’t like the Miata,the whole Miata idea has been shoved down my fucking throat way to much,just sick of hearing about it
@@bryceheppler7181 you don't have to watch the series then lol
For a digital dash I would expect it to not be as laggy as it is. I still think it looks super sick it’s just the rpm lag that kinda brings it down
Just think if surgeons did open vlogs like these. “Oop, don’t need this anymore” *throws it across the room*
We throw into the trash bin :3
"Out with the old heart and in with the new! Now you can see that his heartrate has stabilised and he will make a perfect recovery."
i dont like how the revs arent smooth - like it refreshes every half second. that would make me mismatch shifts
He I thought the same
I agree, I would much rather have analog gauges instead of digital if the refresh rate is that low
Yes it bothers me so much, it has to be butter smooth or I am not installing something like that
Yeah it's really odd, almost looks like bluetooth lag or something, and I definitely know I've seen lossless digital dashes before. I know when I switched from a bluetooth OBD scanner with my phone to a cobb accessport the update lag went away so maybe it's something like that
Maybe, some kind of conflict between video frames per second value and refresh rate of the dash itself? Like flickering lights of modern car optics on video.
Honestly, at this point Zach could be doing anything and we'd all still be here! 😆
So true
Anti-matter warp drive - is it worth it?
"This week on money pit were gonna see if a jack in the box antenna topper is worth it."
I love him, they should build a drift car or start something new so we can see more of him.
I really feel like this ain't a budget project car
I like at 13:07 where u shift and then there's a full second before the tachometer drops down.
Really what you want in a track car.
I love watching this series. Zach is so knowledgeable with everything cars and he’s able to DIY everything which is great
That refresh rate of the screen tho
Yeah, it's cool, but it seems to lag.
Yea, noone seems to mention that, its horrible
I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed. 😂
It’s almost sickening I would just keep the old gauges
It's horrid, takes almost a second to update, and 1 second might not sound much but if your full throttle 1 second could be a lot.
Money Pit: It's wednesday, time to simp over Zach Jobe and his miata
me: yes
He's so happy cruising in it too
bruh this is litealy my favroite youtube channel. i watch your vids when i fall asleap when im board in class like 24/7. the miata build is my fav seeries so far. keep it up!
This is my favorite segment of Donut Media. It's basically a step by step guide for a project car. Keep up the great work man!
Not gonna lie, I kinda miss Zach working on the Miata in the driveway outside the garage
Me too :(
Yes sir u are right
I miss the birds honestly
Same, I can probably guess why they moved but it had a lot of charm to it...
I still like the show but it was better when he did stuff on the Miata that we could actually do on our driveway
The animations don’t look smooth at all from the video anyway. It’s a small thing but would drive me insane
Same here
Upping the refresh rate on the ECU or Dash monitor would help
@@viktorvolkov49 I would need the highest because that shit was pissing me off 😂
@@viktorvolkov49 I’m not sure it’s the refresh rate, it could just have a slow ass graphics processor in it
Agree
I'm in awe. Zach stays so cool throughout the video. I kept waiting for him to say, "Here's one I finished earlier," like in a cooking show.
This is by far the best project Miata series I've seen on CZcams!! This really makes me want to lookin' into a new project car to work on!
Next episode of Money Pit : "Is installing a rocket engine worth it?"
How is this not the top liked comment 🤣🤣
@@Hysterical05 probably because people are not short minded and think this is funny
Obviously
LMAO
lol
“I can monitor anything that’s important”
Mph stays at 0
Was looking for this comment to make sure I don't repeat someone else
@@brendancross2767 Same here
AFR? Yes, obviously
MPH? Not important
That way you don't have to lie to the cop when he asks if you know how fast you were going.
Exactly. 😆
Good show Zach. In western Canada it's currently -21C (-6F) and seeing you cruise in your convertible with a toque and hoodie at dusk makes me dream of May or June. You and the rest of the Donut crew are great. Keep it up.
The end of the video is was the best part for me, good plug 💯
Next on money pit: “Is a fire suppression system worth it”
Hahahahaha
Honestly, yeah
Ugh, that slow update/refresh speed would really annoy me
Same. I have an OBD2 connected app on my phone that allows me to do the same things as this and has about the same update speed. It's really not useable as a standalone system I think. The digital dashes that the ecu manufacturers make such as haltech and ecumaster are way faster
Too much data on the screen at once, I assume this uses some sort of canbus similar to OBD2 which has a poll rate limit, example poll rate is 60 times a second.
You add one extra variable, they can update 30 times a second. You add 20 like on the digital dash here and you are lucky if you can update 2 times a second.
The software needs some prioritization of things that update often such as MPH and RPM then only update other things every few seconds
@@mwmm that's what i was thinking. if the bandwith is limited, I'd rather hav rpm update at ~20hz, speed at 5-10 and the rest can be every couple seconds or so.
The speedo is like that even on the new Taycan, its crazy.
@@sjorsangevare yeah and if you notice on most VW digital displays, the RPM responds perfectly. Seems like an oversight from the engineers.
Really one big thing that is putting me off my next car, I love the active info display in other aspects but the Speedo part grinds my gears!
Me: how much gas we have?
Zach: yes
“This is how you know I’m a car guy”.
Congrats to be the only Miata driver to ever say this.
"so it doesnt look too janky" he says as they cut to him literally painters-taping it in place
Fr
I mean, it could be free floating
How much is it
czcams.com/video/UEXB2OKZ4c0/video.html
Zachs hair needs its own Instagram, it’s beautiful.
This show made me want to do car stuff. Thank you donut for inspiration
at 8:35 I thought he siad "I had a little of molly yesterday, it was weird" lmaoooo
I heard the same😭
Wednesday is the best day of the week now and no one can tell me otherwise!
Money Pit + choccy milk.
It's Thursday where I'm from
I kick my kids out of the living room so I can watch Zach work on the Miata on the big screen lol
I look forward to this every week lol
That's facts
"...So it's gonna be a little bit tricky to get this installed in a way that looks decent in a way that doesn't keep me up at night... "
I felt that.
*Evil laughter* "Flames bro!" You'll be saying that at the next track day without an oil pressure gauge lmao
I can't imagine how crazy Jobe looks driving around, talking to himself about data
Zach makes everything look easy:
“At this point, all we have to do is mock up a connection between the flux capacitor and the positive side of the combustion reaction system. And then of course, if that doesn’t cause a catastrophic nuclear explosion, we just have to convert this AC cable to FM. Easy!”
"Now I can monitor everything" brakes squeak*
Wonder if he can put brake pad thickness on that thing? Just put it in the super squirt thingy
I was a wire harness builder, it was one of the funnest jobs ever, I made theater controls and lights
It's so cool seeing manufacturers making use of 3D printing. Makes things feel more personalized
Looks extremely laggy.
These companies have no shame putting worst possible screens and hardware on these digital dashes and selling them for a few hundres dollars.
It's not the screen, rather it's the raspberry pi that is running the entire operation
@@lolollilol2655 yeah ur right ,under screen I meant the whole thing
@@lolollilol2655 The screen still looks like shit. Also nobody put any effort into writing a decent looking GUI.
That's business ideas right there lads!!
also I have little trust in software that is running on such device. how much testing did they do if they didn't even spend time on proper manufacturing ?
"And I just put a computer in the glove compartment, with the pedal to the floor, radar in the grill, tv in the middle of my steering wheel"
Ludacris really was ahead of his time.
And don't forget the hide away license plate.
I'm really glad Zach figured out his own style. Its awesome!
The only things with this mod that you might want to think about a little more is where you're getting your power from. it's tough to run wires under the dash and have them go where you want them, and because of that I often want to connect it to the first 12V bus I can find close by, but what it looks like you did is basically run your dash screen (which I imagine being somewhat power hungry) on the same fuse as one of your under the dash lights. The circuitry for the light is not designed to pull the same number of amps as your screen probably is. Now, as long as you didn't change the value of the fuse the worst thing that will happen is you might have problems with the fuse popping (which when you're driving down the road can be a big problem). If you did change the fuse however you've then created a fire hazard (you seem smart enough to not do this, so I'm assuming you didn't). Neither of these scenarios is a guaranteed problem though, so you might get away with it, but your viewers who want to try this on a different car might not.
As much as I love technology, removing the analog cluster just feels like a bad move to me...
It wouldn't be a problem if the dash itself was a bit smoother and more accurate. Right now it looks like those cheap ass multimedia head units. I'd personally rather keep my old dash in there and install more gauges. I love the look of gauges, and when they all do that start up motion at once.
@@astanisystems gauges are cool but it will add clutter to the a pillar and make it really hard to see
@@CoveringFish Depends on their size, spacing, amount, and their location. You're however not wrong there.
@@astanisystems Yeah, thought kinda the same. With a tachometer that takes up so much screen space, the choppy frame rate makes it look kinda... meh. I think that it would be worth the effort of taking the analog dash and modifying it to have additional electronic gauges. Hard but still cool retrofit kinda thing
It's a raspberry pi and a screen being sold for 8x as much as it's worth
Zach: "I got a digital dash"
**Drake and Future have entered the chat**
beat me to it
i dont get it
@@narlie2974 Drake and Future have a song together called Digital Dash
@@narlie2974 it’s a song by drake and future from back in like 2016 when they released “what a time to be alive”
that's the first thing I thought when i saw this🤣🤣
Can we all appreciate the fact that because Cali isn't allowing their barbers to be open we now are graced with Zach's sick flow.
This was awesome Zach. Looks great!
Day 55 of wanting Up To Speed back
day 4 of supporting bruh'nt
I support
Day 5 of complete agreement with you guys
Deadasssssss
@@MrLlama-rc8nj day 1 of enjoying your profile pic
"Yeah, my dash runs Linux"
@@mutetovsugraanin7047 I can't even lmao
@@mutetovsugraanin7047 then it just wouldn't run lol it'd crash when you went over 55 or some dumb shit
Can it runs crysis
I use arch btw
Nice Rasbian in there xd
Next episodes:
Is getting a 6 inch lift worth it
Is getting 33s worth it
Is getting a new frame and body worth it
Is getting a new interior with it
Is getting new safety features
Is getting a new car worth it
And I'll watch every single one
The gauges looks so slow with how it’s frame rate is just looking at the tachometer it seemed to be taking it’s sweet time actually giving a readout
I just commented the same thing
he should definitely have invested on a better monitor
@@saucymcrib4047 I wouldn't want anything less than 144hz when using it daily to monitor quick movements
@@saucymcrib4047 it’s not the monitor that’s the issue, it’s the data interface. There’s only so much data you can throughput at once before you bottleneck your connections.
@@AshtonAudioworks Whats causing the bottleneck?
That’s one thing I will always prefer over newer tech, is the old school mechanical dash... put whatever new fancy display stuff you want, but KEEP a needle tach and speedometer somewhere on it to see... LOVE what DODGE has done with the dash in their newer challengers/chargers, PERFECT mix of retro and modern, looks amazing! #Keeptheneedles
Check out the displays Enovation Controls makes for wake boats and UTV's, we usually keep rotary-style gauges for speedo, tach, and sometimes fuel.
hell yeah, the rpm gauge needs to be analogue so we can see the needle rise and fall. it just needs to be be that way. its the law 😂
He just attacks wiring with a fierceness it blows my mind
This was just… impressive. I’m inspired to try to update my Monte Carlo dash to a digital one
Man I love this kind of shit. Can't wait to see what else you have planned
Day 304 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Hell yea gamer
U know u r first when pagani gaming has no replies 🤘
61 left
You’re back!
Ye lol
Forget james’ dad (for now), I just want an up to speed
my main reason for watching Donut media is to watch this man work on his car👌🏽👌🏽
Double tapping the right side of the screen might be one of the best feautures on CZcams, feels great to have an upper hand on ads
Isn't it great how one of the most important gauges on there isn't working: the speedometer.
speedometers are worthless
We're going faster, that's all that matters.
The one thing I love about Donut is that they have a massive following,one of the largest in automotive CZcams and they are still doing normal stuff to normal cars..
the way you advertise your merch and your sponsors is better than most youtube channels and i only say most because i haven't seen them all
I enjoy watching. Win, lose, or fail he posts it. Steering rack rebuild was awesome!😁
Anyone else try to say the “let’s get ...” thing with Jobe every time? I usually get it right, but I was unprepared for “let’s get digital”
Imagine inverting it, then facing towards the windshield. It'll make a dope heads up display
would be cool to take off the backlight and such and mount the monitor alone onto the glass like a heads-up display, but I can imagine that would be way too distracting haha
It's like you can read my minds man. I am thinking on doing this soon
Another great video! Thanks
"i got the digital dash" - drake, "digital dash", what a time to be alive.
Nice! I’d be unhappy with lagginess of it though. I actually made a digital display for my car from scratch, and it was challenging to get it to run smoothly with a fast response time. I have a video of it on my channel for anyone interested in a different take on it!
OP is telling the truth, what a cool addition, everyone should see this!!
I didn’t know they were still doing it after the turbo kit! What a present suprise
Digital cluster panel is the most amazing thing that happen to modern cars
🏁🚗
It is satisfying to see the digits moving fast depending on the vehicle speed
Everyone ignores how he almost rapped that ad in the end
"What is this? Nightride?"
Time to colab with the Poles?
*knight rider
@@subparmonkey9186 nightride is a youtube channel that works on miatas, def should watch them tho
@@subparmonkey9186 * nightride, a group of polish dudes doing nice stuff with their miatas and a kei truck called "Kevin". They´re on youtube as well.
@@OlegMk2 best car channel imo
"what is this? Knight rider?"
For the fuel gauge, look at the Stage6 (the brand) I got one on my motorcycle and it’s small, simple to install and clear
Dark mode shirts! Finally I donut merchandise I will actually wear. Thanks donut!!
Boyz, make a “just a couple screws” t-shirt!!
If only I could afford the absolutely incredible JDM mk3 supra digital dash. If you haven't seen it, look it up. Its some serious back to the future stuff!
or the 300zx dash. God, why didnt they make one for the Rx7 FC? even the 626 had one
@@hannesdude1741 Wow, just imagine a FC Rx7 digital dash. That would be awesome
Toyota Soarer dash is cool
the s2000 has a cool digital dash too
Audi Quattro also had a digital dash. '80s man... the '80s really did some sweet digi-dashes.
"should look good"
11:26: Yep. Blue stripes. Looks excellent, good job.
Just seeing how far the Miata has come from bone stock is hugely rewarding.
“Is a LS swap worth it?”
Ls swamp on miata is like a real m60 in nerf battle
or a 2JZ lol
I'd find one of those Yamaha 5-valve 1000cc bike engines and make my Miata have no torque. Come to think of it, maybe would be better for a Aerial Atom sized ground up project rather than this. But it would still be cool.
Of course it's worth it a Vortec with junkyard turbo 👌
Cease
" i had to go to the mall the other day... it was weird" i felt that lmfao
Sounded like he said he had molly yesterday and I had to do a double take.
I would love an update on this, since the digital dash was giving problems after installation, might be cool to see how you been dealing with them bugs in the system
Being a pc nerd too while being a car nerd, once I get a Miata MX-5 hopefully I will try to make my own type of thing with this
Love how the MPH was a constant zero :D
At least im not the only one who notices lmaoooo
i was searching for this comment
He said that he can keep an eye on all of his things but doesn’t recognize how his mph is been at zero this entire time I think he should’ve kept the old cluster gauge
@@jacobshirey5807 I think it's more likely on purpose so he didn't have some internet goon drop a dime on him speeding.
My ex gf’s nickname was “Mega Squirt”
how'd she get that name???
@@texasghoul91 Im pretty sure its a joke bruh
@@jozefm3044 thanks captain obvious
@@jozefm3044 no way
I think I know her.... 😂
You guys should do everything you need to know about the Ford Fairlane
Looks great with your Win98 dashboard updates 👍🏽
At this point zach's going to convert his miata into a c5 corvette
“Look at all the things that I know about my car! That’s how you know that I’m really a car guy.” Is so accurate 😂
"I am able to see everything that matters"
Cue the MPH that was not saying his speed
Lol I thought I was the only one that noticed
10:05 guess you could say that new dash is lit
zach :"so it pretty much looks like windows"
me as a computer nerd:"that's raspbian which is linux but ok"
I thought
the same. Also, judging by the I/O of the thing behind the screen itself it's Raspberry 4. It have more juice in it than displaying a graph
@@VeinX wait wha
Why are Donuts “commercials” and t shirt advertising better than literally any other companies or products advertising
The designs are amazing aswell
@@jessemam6346 yea like I wear all that simply southern shirts and that parrot one looked sick as hell
Cause they try
It’s on the level of Japanese commercials
Bot comment. Not fooling me, this comment is on here 3 times with different usernames.
Personally I dont like the style, too flash for me.
Haha 6:40 " I had a good roll of molly yesterday it was weird" haha you devil zac
8:56 never heard such an accurate statement before