Cardo PackTalk Bold Install and Quick start guide
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- So my time with Sena has now come to an end, but happy to announce that I shall now be working with Cardosystems for the foreseeable future. In this video I unbox the Packtalk bold, install it on the helmet, and go through a quick start guide!
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They are brilliant best coms I’ve used by far look forward to seeing the next in the series 👍👍
Nice vid. There are a group of 8 of us that have been using the Cardo Packtalk since it's release and it has been a bit of a revolution. It's the first unit that does almost everything it says on the tin.
Best unit ever, I’ve had the rest this imo is by far the best 👏
Glad I found this channel, so far all your videos are awesome. You are very articulate, thank you for taking the time to share your awesome videos!
Thank you for your kind comments, I'm glad you're enjoying the content 👍😜
Hi Shaun. I have just watched you and Bruce do BruTime. I enjoyed it very much. I also have changed up from SENA 20S to Packtalk Bold (on order) following your presentations. Your product presentations have become very polished and your rides particularly with Andy are brilliant. Cheers, Alan from Australia (2018 R1200RT).
Thank you Alan, glad you enjoy the content, working on the next vid as we speak👍😜
Tried many and Cardo MESH is the best. Love them to bits and makes any ride with your mates.
Hopefully I'll get to test that soon✌😜
Nice Video, never thought Cristian Horner would teach me how to put my comsystem in my helmet
This is the best Bluetooth intercom in the market, you will be blown away :)
Hope so✌😃 all good thus far!
Best unit on the market currently. Have tried Sena and Interphone and Cardo wipes the floor with them for quality, battery life, ease of installation etc etc.I always use the sticky mount as think it looks neater. Literally just reinstalled my Bold on my new Tour X4 lid yesterday...
Good to know Scott! First impressions I am very happy with it.
Brilliant bit of kit the connection to other riders is seamless and the sound playing music is awesome , Thankyou TeapotOne for the code!
Perfect timing! Bought a gt air 2 a week or so ago and the packtalk bold is en route. Happy days!
Mega! I didn't get the GT air 2 because of that housing on the side for built in comms unit. Will you have trouble mounting the packtalk?
TheLikeableRider better not! Sure the sticky pad will work. Now got to work on the American accent apparently! Cheers
Seems to do fine with my messed up English accent✌😂
@@richardstratford6013 The latest updates seem to have made the accent recognition much better.
tojjer29 that’s good, don’t know how it will do with my Derbyshire accent...
Amazing how all reviews has something good to talk about the comm system.
However, has anyone tried it with the new Sena just know how much Sena has improved as Cardo seems to be the new Benchmark.
Great, just bought a Bold, arrives tomorrow..
Great stuff!👍😜
Try switching you phone to dark mode, all becomes much clearer 💪👌
Nice video, great information thanks.
Good video. I have the Back Talk Bold and it is very good.
Seems to be the one to have✌😜
Thx mate! Faster and easier explanation than cardos video!
Glad it helped👍😜
Good install vid. Ive just become a sena owner myself. Be interesting to see how the packtalk gets on. They get good reviews.
Happy so far✌😜
Well done! 👏
Thanks, was pretty easy
Can this be installed on a blue tooth enabled helmet?
Good vid. 5.7 is out now
I’ve had the PackTalk for a while now... a brilliant bit of kit. In my experience you’d be best to take out the small mic and put the boom mic on. It’s much better quality and alleviates a lot more wind noise.
Will see how it holds up, no issues with the mic so far1 👍😜
Great! Thanks i can easily mount my bold to helmet (:
Been considering getting an intercom for a while, looking at all the reviews the Cardo seems to be the one to get, so looking forward to your up coming videos and thoughts, especially as you had the Senna kit before, 👍
Weather has been rubbish this week so haven't been able to get out since I got it. Hopefully be out next weekend!
Nice straight forward video..I've recently bought the Bold and found it easy to set up to my GS TFT screen with one problem..i can't receive or send phone calls. Recent and paired numerous times and even viewed the online video..but no joy. Everything else works fine. I've now just given up for the time being as it was stressing me out too much and i was seriously thinking of using a hammer on it.
Not tried the phone call option yet, will let you know!
Anyone in the comments experience with installing the Cardo in a Shark helmet? Any issues?
I wish camera was on what buttons you are pushing when pairing with phone. Would make it more useful for sure.
thank you for making this easy the instructions were terrifiying lol
My pleasure Terry, glad it helped you👍😜
Thx a lot for that, I've the C3 Pro helmet, which is a flip up one, is it possible to mount the mic some how?
Hi
You'd need to use the boom mic and not the wire one👍
Do the speakers fit over the ears on the shoie? On my Hjc rpha 11 the speaker cut outs put them above my ears 😢
They do for me yes, but bare in mind we all have different shaped heads. You'd need to try one on to see if it works for you.
Is there a way to fix the cardo in the shoei neotec2? Thank you for the demonstration. Cheers from CH
You'd probably have to mount it slightly further back, and using the sticky mount.
Enjoy the radio turning on even though you didn't tell it to. Seems to be a default option for it when it gets confused. Great bit of kit though. To adjust volume, adjust it when each item is working. Adjust the phone volume when the phone is on a call, music when music is playing etc
Not sure what you're telling me about the volume settings?
Sounds like you have the 'pre Bold' version like me.
The voice command wasn't very good and what ever you say turns the radio on, which gets a bit frustrating as it takes a while to get to the point where it can be turned off.
I had a quick Bold demo at this year's London Bike show, and found the Bold to be much better with voice commands. Interested to see how this goes.
@@Eammim Nope, I have the bold version with JBL speakers. Firmware 5.7 seems to be better.
There's already version 5.7? Installed the 5.6 last week
@@thelikeablerider8800 yep
Hi! What would you suggest for a simple bluetooth unit just for phone calls and gps off the phone. I ride solo, so don't need these fancy units connecting several riders etc :)
Hi
Then I'd suggest the Cardo freecom 1+ would be the unit for you. It'll do every that you suggested👍
Great video. What Shoei helmet is it? I have a new GT air 2 and I have to stick on the outside.
Its the previous model to yours. That's the reason I didn't get the Air two, the lack of room to mount a coms unit, and I didn't fancy getting the inbuilt unit.
I have the pac talk bold and a bmw navigation vi. I have connected my phone to channel 1 and the sat nav to channel 2 same as your vid. Is it ok to then pair the phone to the sat nav. This then shows up on the sat nav the number of the person calling or does this cause issues, only I noticed you didn’t connect your phone to your nav. Do you or anyone know thanks
I only know from my previous experience with my Sena unit, I didn't pair my phone to the sat nav, sometimes had issues like you said. Be interested to see if it works with the Cardo. Also depends in the order you switch everything on I've found.
How did you tuck in the wires behind the cheek pad so the plastic that slides into the shell doesn’t hurt the wire?
Just tuck a bit more cable in-between the shell and cheek pads, so when you push everything home, you don't nip the cable.
Hello. let me start be saying great vid keep up the good work. right i have the Cardo Packtalk Duo & i have managed to set up the radio ok but i cant get the music to work or the phone presets to work properly, when i say Hey Cardo Preset Dial it always calls the 1st person on my list of 4 people & it dont give me the option of who to call. Any ideas please ???
Many thanks Andy Farrar, Leeds.
Hi
Thanks for your kind comment!
Mine all works fine with the voice commands, although I don't bother with radio, I just listen to spotify. Because I connect the headset to my Garmin, incoming and out coming calls are control through my Sat Nav.
Good review
Thank you m8👍😜
Which Shoei lid is that? Been shopping. Saw urs and want one. Thanks for the vids.
It's the shoei GT Air! Not sure of the graphic name🤦♂️
Does JBL speakers fit in the helmets holes? I want to buy the NXR
Yes they'll fit👍😜
At 7:09 you said to be careful not to pinch the wires I am having trouble on how you managed to get them into that part of the helmet?
Just poke a it more cable down inbetween the outer shell and the eps, that way the cable won't be under tension when you push the cheek liner back in.
So I have a question. I want to move away from Senna because my 30K let me down in wet weather on a Pyrenees Tour. My buddy has a Street Glide CVO with a Harley Bluetooth/Mesh helmet. We have both found bluetooth comms to often break up and mesh has proved to be more reliable, except that is for me in the rain, when my 30K just failed repeatedly..
If I move over to Pack Talk bold will Pack Talk's mesh talk to the Harley Helmets Senna Mesh?
No unfortunately they wont speak to each other over Mesh, you'd have to pair over bluetooth to each other. Maybe you could convince your buddy to come over to Cardo✌😜
What’s your initial thoughts on this headset as I’m thinking of jumping from Sena? I know you said there would be more vids on this, but after a couple weeks, what’s your thoughts?
Its definitely better than the Sena, everything is working as it should, voice commands are very good, and the sound quality is great, even at higher speeds, that's where the Sena units struggled. There is a slight glitch with Cardos current firmware, as sometimes the radio turns itself on without me saying or doing anything, but I'm sure that will be sorted with an update.
Thanks for the reply Shaun, Packtalk it is then. I also like the waterproof element as I forget sometimes that the Sena is on the lid especially with the pants weather we have in the UK!
Hi. Would you recommend putting the cardio packtalk bold to the Shoei GT Air2? There is the issue of the raised plastic cover on the side of the helmet.
Or would you recommend a different helmet.
Ps I like the ratchet chin strap on the Shoei.
Your advise is appreciated.
Cheers
No I wouldn't recommend an install on the GT Air 2 as there's no room to mount it, you either have it mounted too far forward, or too far back.
There is a yt video of it being fitted to a gt air 2
I'm sure there is, but most probably fitted in an unrealistic position.
I want to buy the flip up Shoei but will the packtalk fit as the new ones have that cut out for the Sena unit. I am presuming that you have had an indepth training course from Cardo ? Perhaps not just wondered if you knew the answer.
A lot of the manufacturers have now made it more difficult to mount a third party comms unit, and one of the reasons I didn't buy the Shoei GT Air 2. You still have options to mount it slightly further back, or to use the sticky mount. Difficult for me to say for certain without having the helmet in my hand.
@@thelikeablerider8800 Cheers mate just thought you might have bumped into someone who has tried it.
My unit won't clip in, I was intending to swap it between 2 helmets as well, it fits ok and snaps in on one helmet but not on the other one, can't figure out why?
anyone else had issues getting the unit to snap into place? I'm using the clip mount on both helmets.Thanks.
I had the same! Clicks in fine with my Shoei helmets, but it's much harder to click in on some of my HJC's. Think some helmets that are possibly more curved, bending the housing slightly more stopping it from seating properly. Try bending the hosuing slightly to a straighter position, worked for me👍
@@thelikeablerider8800 Thanks, I may try using the sticky mount further up the helmet.
I really need to get one of these.
You should! Working perfectly so far and the sound quality out of those JBL speakers is awesome!
@@thelikeablerider8800 Get that bass boost on! 😂
@@tojj29 I don't want my helmet to explode! That came out wrong......🤦♂️
@@thelikeablerider8800 🤔
My helmet doesnt have the hole to put the esrphones into. Ive place are the helmet but its pushing my my ear and temple which is not comfortable. And suggestions?
That's unfortunate! Yeah can he more difficult if your helmet doesn't accommodate them. Try a few other positions, they don't have to be positioned directly over your ears.
TheLikeableRider will you recommend cutting a small hole in the styrofoam to fit the speakers?
No I wouldn't recommend cutting into the helmet! If you can't find a good placement for the speakers with your current helmet, then I would recommend upgrading your helmet tbh.
hi mate, what model is your shoei helmet?
This is the GT Air, the first generation
Hey, after 2 years can you send us the feedback? i want take intercome but i dont know what to buy... cardo or interphone?
Hi
I've never used any units from Interphone, so unfortunately I can't compare the two.
Have you been able to pair your cardo packtalk bold to your BMW TFT screen ?
I ask as I have a 2021 S1000R and am considering getting either the Bold or the limited black edition please can you let me know your thoughts on the cardo thanks
I haven't and probably won't tbh! My Garmin controls my music, and telephone calls etc so no real need to do it. If I would also connect to the bike, I'm sure it'll cause problems.
@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks for your reply unlike you I do not use a Garmin as such if I am just connecting 2 sources to the Cardo - iPhone and s1000r LIKE YOU WITH YOUR PHONE AND GARMIN this should be ok. Thank you again. Just one more point to ask would you recommend spending the additional on a Black over a Bold version ?
I neglected to ask as you are a sponsored individual by Cardo are you aware of any planned updates of the Cardo range - Packtalk etc. ? Please can you let me know thanks.
Unfortunately I haven't used the Black edition, only the Bold which I'm very happy with. BMW will always try to sell you their own brand of comms units, that apparently work better with the connectivity dash. The Cardo will pair with it, but you won't necessarily get the same technical support. Yes I'm sponsored the units, and as yet I've not been informed of and update to the units you're asking about.
Unfortunately many helmet brands now use a dedicated com unit, like the current Shoei helmets (GT Air 2 and Neotec) and Schuberth (c4). I rather be free in deciding my com unit or not spending money on multiple com units. Sure you can use a sticky mount, but the clam doesn't fit anymore. Now I have to welcome Arai to the family...
Yeah that's the reason I didn't get the GT air two, as it doesn't give you much room to mount the comms unit, either too far forward or back🤦♂️
Yes, I have that problem on my Neotec 2, because of the position of the flip joint and drop down sunvisor lever the Cardo ends up way back on the helmet.
It's a shame as the Shoei is a neat install for Sena (I think) but the Cardo is a better comms device, certainly for bike to bike.
Can I just use the GPS on my Iphone? Thanks
Sure👍
How do you get the Cardo audio onto your GoPro?
It was loud enough that the gopro picked it up, tweak the audio on editing😜
@@thelikeablerider8800 Thanks!!
I found its sound is excellent, the "hey cardo,..." command is not good, many times the command is not recognised, I set the sensitivity on different positions but I had no much success, however, using "ok google" I had no issues whatsoever.
Interesting to hear others opinions on this, my "hey Cardo" seems to be working fine!
@@thelikeablerider8800 "ok google" works fine, even i can say play mixes (my playlist) however hey cardo has better commands, volume up or down, etc, unfortunately, i can't fully use its system. disappointed though
What's the best way to talk thru the unit, but record the dialogue ? What other device do I need to record the audio to ? iPhone / app ?!
I use a zoom H1 to record the external audio.
@@thelikeablerider8800 Hmmmm.... ok so the wired mic needs to be plugged into the H1, got it. I'm gonna figure something else out maybe. Maybe the RODE Wireless Pro or something..
Do you mean while riding?
@@thelikeablerider8800 Yes sir. Trying to document my first few rides on a new street bike, and just want to record the audio of what I'm saying about it.
Then I use a lav mic with the gopro mic adaptor. The mic is secured in my helmet with velcro and connects to the camera.
Switch from Sena to this. Absolutely the best interphone on the market: JBL sound quality is simple fantastic;-)
Yeah it's a great unit👍😜
Which Sena ?
anyone know how to stop the annoying bleep when paired to garmin zummo ?
The screen tap beeps?
@@thelikeablerider8800 yeah and when it gives an audio instruction
What were Shoei thinking making the GT air 2 for a sena system, when virtually every review rates the cardo better??
Have u tried the new sena?
@@ohlins_5110 I have and I don’t like it that’s why I replaced with a Cardo bold black
@@polo_da_great47 I tried the cardo it wasn’t that good I love my cena tho it’s amazing
@@ohlins_5110 what model sena did you use , are you still happy with it
@@paulhollands6779 hrmon kardon vsn
Have you tried the slim? I like the profile but a seperate battery pack...not so sure. As an aside, your intro music is too damn catchy, just spent my two hour ride whistling it in my helmet 🤣🤣
i had two slims charging port broke on both in under a month,now have a bold way better and more robust
Hi is that a speaker mounted on the back of your helmet as well?
Yes that's the Headwave Tag, which is a bluetooth speaker.
@@thelikeablerider8800 is it etter than the jbl's in the cardo? I was looking at these too👍
Hi
What is that on the back of the helmet?
It's the Headwave tag bluetooth speaker
You didn’t fully explain how to tuck the wires on the left side.
all personal preference! you need to tuck them in so you can't feel them when you put on the helmet. Every helmet is different, so just place them where ever is best for you.
You referred a few times to "if you can't use the bracket". Why do you view the bracket as the default option and the sticker as the fallback? I've always done stickers as the preference and would only use the bracket if the surface wasn't suitable. The brackets add to the weight (marginally) but create more wind noise right next to your ear that just sticking it on. I also feel it's best to avoid shoving things between the layers of a helmet.
This isn't a criticism. Just a genuine question as to why is the bracket is preferred?
I suppose it's just viewed as the more secure option🤷♂️
I'd never considered that 👍
Mine intercoms have been stuck on and never had an issue so not something I'd thought of.
P. S. My delayed trip to Cochem starts on Friday 😁
Omg! I have the same thing wtfreak
Manuals in map style should be illegal. It means the manufacturer hates their customers and would like to pour manure on them. Otherwise nice video.
JBL are far from being a top speaker maker.
I have it and it's shit imo. When you give it an order, like play music, or play radio, it NEVER understands you, and you have to fiddle with the buttons anyway. I recommend staying away from cardo.
The voice recognition works great on mine, no issues with that at all!
Frankly, they can lose the radio. Total waste of time, and you've already mentioned yours comes on by itself lol. Bad mark against cardo for that. All you need is intercom and phone, although the new, ever stupid money raking, UK phone laws for driving have effectively made using even hands free systems illegal.
Great help, Just a little hard to understand your accent.
I learned nothing here.