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An Outsider Visits a Presbyterian Church
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- The Presbyterian Church in America is part of the Reformed branch of the Christian family tree, and I went to Lennox, South Dakota to learn more about it.
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Hey, that’s my dad! Love this video, thanks for coming to Lennox!
Thank you for inviting this channel. This channel is wonderful and accepting
God bless you and your family, dear sister.
That's awesome!
Your dad seems like a wonderful pastor. I really miss the PCA and the OPC. My wife and I now attend a non-denominational church, because she did not feel at home in the PCA/OPC. I had to compromise and find a church with the same reformed doctrine, but that had a little bit more modern worship. I'll always have a place in my heart for PCA pastors :) Your dad seems awesome.
He's a solid dude! Keep rocking frozen chosen.
I’m Orthodox and I was very much appreciating what the pastor was saying about salvation. Talking about how the the crucifixtion and resurrection were wholly necessary for our redemption.
I’m Catholic and I completely agree with you
But as is typical of the Reformed, he says absoultely nothing about the Incarnation -- and focuses on the blood atonement to appease God's wrath.
Honestly apart from the way the worship services are conducted & icons, (eastern) orthodoxy & the reformed faith share like 80-90% of the same fundamental doctrine
@@Andyman3k We all share more than we think. What I have found what splits us is always in the weeds. I am not a fan of reformed theology, which often makes me look down on reformed thought. I need to repent of that because their tradition is old, not as old, but it's old enough to be at least respected.
@@Andyman3k maybe 10% - the reformed understanding of predestination is condemned as a heresy by the Orthodox, same with their view on original sin. Orthodox believe sanctification and salvation are basically the same process, reformed deny this. Orthodox pray to the Saints and the Holy Virgin Mary, reformed do not.
As a Presbyterian I’m so glad you got around to covering our denomination. The Presbyterian church has a very rich history and worthy of delving into, and the Presbyterian church has produced some of the most important theologians in Christian history (at least modern, though some could argue of all time this far)
R.C. Sproul FTW
I'm a Presbyterian from north east india..
BEING A PRESBYTERIAN IS SOOOOOOOOOO GREAT!!!!!!! GOD BLESS THE PRESBYTERIAN PASTORS OUT THERE AND GOD BLESS TO ALL!!!!!
BET YOUR PROUD THAT TRUMP IS PRESYTERIAN :D. BUT I LOVE MY ORTHODOX BECAUSE WE KEPT THE TRUTH WHEN CATHOLICS BROKE AWAY FROM US.
Im Presbyterian also
@@1985LISS why are orthodox people always so quick to attack. I swear, on youtube and social media its always orthodox who are being prideful and rude...
I went to Presbyterian Church last Sunday 😊
I was predestined to love everything you do Matt.
I see what you did there. Soli Deo Gloria!
You've touched on the issue that doesn't quite sit comfortably in my mind. But it's a very cool church.
I see what you did there
@@annwood6812 It doesn't sit comfortably in anybody's mind, because it challenges the concept of absolute autonomy, which we all want desperately to believe that we possess.
I’m a Catholic and I love hearing about other Christians. I love what you are doing and I pray for the reunion of all Christians everyday.
If we cannot unite in doctrine in this life, one thing we can be united in is prayer.
Catholics worship statues and pray to Mary.
@@keithpritz1347 See Matt's videos where he talks with Catholics. If you ask members of your church to pray for you, and you affirm that those who die in Christ are alive in heaven, the only objection to not asking the saints to pray for you is to argue that they aren't part of the "cloud of witnesses" (Heb 12:1). That could be a valid argument. At any rate, it's bearing false witness to act as though Catholics (as well as Orthodox and Anglicans) are idolators for asking the saints to pray for them.
@@keithpritz1347 this thread isn't the place to start arguments
@@keithpritz1347 We don’t worship Mary, we ask the Blessed Mother’s intercession to pray for us and present our petitions to her Divine Son and the Father. That’s not really idolatry. God Bless !
100% on the mark. I grew up Presbyterian, it never connected with me personally. I converted to Catholicism and now can can worship our lord and savior with my heart and mind and feel his presence. Ultimate goal - Christ is our only salvation and I found that in Catholicism, my relatives have found that in Presbyterianism. I think that is the ultimate goal of all Christians. God be with you, brother.
Great video. I grew up Catholic in Poland (even being an altar boy for years) converted to Jesus Christ via God's Spirit's work using Gospel of Grace through the ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ in mid '80ties; became Baptist in 1991 and recently moved to presbyterian camp.
It is always interesting for me how people who convert to Roman Catholicism and show signs of regenerated hearts can not notice serious issues with their Church's doctrine of justification?
@@prezbiterianiegdansk9535 Because it is Augustinian. If you have issues with Rome's justification, you have a problem with Augustine. Protestant understanding of justification is antinomian (it's possible that I have spelt it wrongly but my point stands).
Wow, I’m speechless! I’m not from a Christian background, but recently I’ve been getting the urge to visit a church. I tried looking up churches in my area and the one closest to me is a Presbyterian church. While looking up churches around me, I also realized that there are many different kinds of churches. I stumbled across your videos a few days ago (Thursday) and I was binge watching your visits to the different kinds of churches. I remember trying to search up Presbyterian church to see if you had visited one (Friday) or if anyone else had done an in depth review/visit, but I had found none. And voila! The video I was looking for popped up on my feed right now! Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m sure it’ll be a good one!
Cool! Did you try out a church?
Awesome you want to try out church, I pray the truth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ will be revealed to you and you will repent and and believe on Him for eternal salvation. Just bear in mind that not all Presbyterian churches are faithful to the Gospel. Unfortunately many have gone very liberal and some even preach a false gospel and false Christ that might make you feel good about yourself for a time but will not save, sadly same can be said for many other "Christian" denominations as they submit to and conform to the culture of the day... FYI the Presbyterian Church in America, to which the church in the video belongs, is one of the faithful branches of the Presbyterian church.
Not all presby churches are the same, look for a good PCA or OPC near you 🙌🏼
@@ninerocks Nice judgement.
Believe in Christ. Love one another. Even your enemies.
Walk with grace and remember that to the pure all is pure.
@@richardwhite6062 Love does not mean being nice. The most loving thing one can do for someone believing a false gospel is to tell them the truth.
Best video series on CZcams.
Thanks!
“Ebenezer,” for me, calls to mind the wonderful old hymn “Come Thou Fount”
"Here I raise my Ebenezer
Here by Thy great help I've come
And I hope by Thy good pleasure
Safely to arrive at home"
i was always puzzled with the word ebenezer in that hymn because i didn't know what it meant, and i always thought of Ebenezer Scrooge.
it's cool beans to hear what the word means
For me it reminds me of veggie tales 🤣
@@EthanDyTioco our hymnal has a footnote to explain it.
Church names and eras kind of go together. You will find a lot of Ebenezer Churches started late 19th century. I suspect there was a merger or move to get the name they have.
I'm from the Presbyterian Church of India (PCI) . But Church windows , we don't decorate like that, infact is plain, simple window. But its great seeing other churches especially from the west .
Calvin wouldn’t approve of stain glass and frankly I agree with him.
I agree with your (PCI) church on that subject. Most PCA churches here don't have so many pictures as a part of their windows.
Lol.. I'm also a Presbyterian from Meghalaya and we only tend to follow what the Bible teaches.
I am OPC and we would agree, as did the pastor of that church, the windows however are historic, so he likely cant remove them.
@@slamdancer1720 honestly that’s perfectly fine imo. I wouldn’t say it’s the end of the world haha, but I wouldn’t install them if I were building a new church building.
As a Presbyterian, this was great!
You must leave Protestantism
I am new to the faith and went to church for the first time yesterday. I chose the Presbyterian church in my neighborhood not knowing much about Presbyterianism but thinking it looked like a nice congregation. Everyone was so welcoming, but there is a lot more to a Presbyterian service than listening to a sermon and singing a few hymns! There are calls and responses, specific prayers said by everyone in unison and periods when the congregation stands, sits and kneels. I liked the service, but I have so much to learn.
Aeyyyy glad I got to be here earlier! Matt I’d love to interview you! I tried sending a dm on Twitter. I’ve been loving your content and recently became a patreon!
We neeeed this interview to happen!!🙏🏻🙏🏻
Ayyeee This the collab we need
I'd love to see that interview as you two have some of the best content on CZcams. 😎👍
LETS GOOOOOO
+1
As a Dutch reformed fella this was great to watch, thank you Matt!
Hello fellow Dutch Reformed dude! is your federation within NAPARC?
@@CDC39A Im actually from the Netherlands, so my homechurch belongs to the Gereformeerde Gemeenten (Reformed Congregations). In the USA and Canada we have 28 congecrations under the name of the Netherlands Reformerd Congregations (NRC).
@@Bestevaer did you vote for SGP in the last election?
@@camulodunon I sure did!
I don't mind telling you, of all the ones you've done, this has my ear. I'm amazed at how they look at God, His Word and Theology. I might have to look deeper because this really speaks.
Right on TD.
Hope you find truth and peace brother.
FINALLY! So glad to see us Presbyterians represented! Great video!
You should tour a traditional Methodist Church! Also this provided so much insight into the general over view of a PCA Church! Keep up the great work! Thank God for people like you who are kinda nerds when it comes to the different branches of theology, you even get those of us who don't really know much about the history of different traditions interested in all this super cool stuff!
Methodist church is one church I would never enter just for the fact they allow interrelations, you cannot marry anyone outside the christian faith. The person you are to marry and raise your kids should be the same faith or you can be doomed
Not Presbyterian, but reformed and Baptistic. Enjoyed this pastor's hosting your visit and answers to your questions.
Reformed Baptists and Reformed Presbyterians get along pretty well. One group baptizes babies and one doesn't. I grew up Baptist and became reformed early on. Two years ago I realized I agreed more with Presbyterian/Covenant Theology and switched.
@@icypirate11 there is also a big difference in eschatology among other secondary and tertiary issues...like real presence. but indeed we do appreciate John Macarthur and Charles Hadden Spurgeon.
I really enjoy these videos brother, thank you. Praise God!
God, under His sovereign will, decided before the foundations of creation that Matt would be predestined to visit Lennox Ebenezer Presbyterian Church. 😉
Predestined.......so I can do as much good or evil as I want, it doesn't matter?
Could God not be all knowing without predestination, what if I had free will to do what I want, why can I not choose to be a good person, Christian or not, choose to be a good person and still have a all knowing God.
@@JuanRempel do you think God knows everything that is ever going to happen?
Is… is this joke really going to spark a debate about predestination?.. 😅
@@gingerjeff6385 only God knows…
Agreed 😂
Fantastic clip brotha!!!! I loved this! Thank you for doing this work and visiting all these different perspectives of Worship. Keep going! :) :) :)
This was perhaps one of the most aesthetically pleasing churches I have ever seen, Matt. You pick out the good ones for this series :)
Another great video! Can't wait for part 2!
Matt, I love this series you’ve done. It’s a brilliant method of creating dialogue across the denominational divides. Thanks for your work towards conversation and unity.
Loved what you said about unity. Keep going with these excellent videos. Great stuff.
I love how you actually came at this whole project with an open mind. I’ve watched nearly every episode in this series, and it’s so cool to see how you’re really integrating what your learn as you go and pulling it j in to this bigger understanding of Christianity and of religion and faith in general. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the video Matt! I appreciate you thanking the host and pointing out their role. It's a big responsibility to try to adequately represent the ideas of their whole church on the spot in front of thousands of people! I also appreciate you doing your best to find the most educated people that you can to represent these various denominations. I understand that it would be hard to find the right person for that in many faiths (including my own), so props to you for traveling and making a great series. Its so nice to be reminded how much we all have in common! I look forward to more videos in the future, especially if you could ever do some videos with someone from the church I attend :)
We have IC/XS/NI/KA over the sanctuary at my Catholic church. Another Catholic church about 5 miles down the road is very much in the "Ark" style, as if you were entering an enormous upturned boat.
I’m Catholic as well, I’ve noticed the “Ark” style at a number of the parishes I’ve attended.
Great as always Pastor Matt! As a member of a reformed church, I really appreciated what you said about the confessional Lutherans and the Reformed feeling the obligation and "pressure" of church history and the Reformation. Having grown up in an Evangelical church, it was something that was sorely missed.
I thought it was a good observation too. Anglicanism also has that "historical pressure."
@@wesmorgan7729 absolutely!
Thanks so much for talking to a Presbyterian! Been waiting years for this!
I’ve been watching your videos since I discovered your channel last year, and I’ve come away feeling extremely blessed by all that you do, so thank you. I grew up in the Presbyterian tradition (in Australia), though I now go to a non-denominational church (which would probably be a bit closer to the American evangelical free tradition, but not quite as it has a baptist flavour lol). But, I’m excited to join you in your conversations with the Presbyterians (of the American flavour as I know it’s not exactly the same as the Aussie flavour - why do I keep using the word flavour? Lol), as it’s helping me to understand my childhood church traditions more. So thank you and God bless 🙏🏼
Thank you. Great video. Your videos are hyper informative. Very grateful.
Really love the character and knowledge of Ethan, Seems like a great Pastor. Praise God!
Good stuff, Matt. I enjoy learning about the ideas of all believers. It is nice to know you offer a non judgmental open forum for this effort. Bless you, brother.
Matt- you’re amazing! Great work.
Timothy Keller's denomination, if I'm not mistaken. Probably the most influential person on my life!
It is.
Tim Keller is horible.
@@innovationhq8230 yeah, which is odd in this denom.
I’m excited that you’re finally visiting a Presbyterian church! Not Reformed, but I’ve always wanted to see you cover one in your fair and amicable way that you always give to everyone. Can’t wait to see the sit down talks from this visit!
Matt I love what you do to point out and EXPLAIN the different views (and why they all make sense for those of us who find one or another makes sense to us). God does meet us where we are -- each of us!
Great video. Thank you Pastor Ethan for sharing your church.
So many similarities! Beutiful way to show how we are all brothers and sisters in Christ! I have found the most truth in my particular faith but I appreciate the opportunity to continue to search as I "practice" my faith. Thank you for your ministry, Matt!
Really love the connection to remind the people. That is clearly their core value and Pastor Ethan always pointed to that fact
As always I love these series. This is close to my home. I am in Uniting Church and this denomination is part of uniting church.
Thank you for sharing this church. Much respect to this Paster and the congregation of believers.
Hey! Thanks dude. This was great. Good to see my people represented.
I have been prayerfully considering which church in my area God would have me to be a part of. This video was encouraging. Looking forward to more from your channel.
On a more serious note, thanks for the video Matt. As always, appreciate the great respect and seeing the heart behind different groups' perspectives
I know right! It helps us to understand that we are all just parts of the greater body.
I watched this two years ago when it released and cane back to see this church. Its really beautiful!
Thanks bro, loved this episode!
Matt because of your videos i come to understand that what ever we are doing and what ever we are building we r doing it out of the love we have for God… I think all these denominations are arguing on who loves God the most or who pleases God the most🥰🥰🥰. You are building bridges and I really appreciate it. God bless you brother.
This was beautiful! This church exudes such reverence...it's hard to describe. I loved all of the comments of the pastor, as well. I especially liked his explanation of the EMPTY CROSS. I have never liked the Crucifix...with Jesus still hanging on the Cross. It was His Resurrection that was so powerful!
Thanks for this video. I am a new subscriber to your channel and I have been "binge-watching" your videos.
This is exactly what I needed for my novel project. Thank you!
WOW! Never in my life have I seen someone approach a matter as objectively as you do. You truly do shine a light on all the various beliefs that you encounter, all the while masterfully avoid offending anyone. You sir, really do go into these situations hungry to learn and because of it I am fascinated from all of your content that I have watched thus far.
Its a beautiful building- thanks for sharing
Oooh, my denomination! I really love all of these church tours.
Matt, you are really so gracious about each and every tradition that you interact with. You find the absolute best in each one. It’s a REMINDER that we should be charitable with everyone. Thanks for doing these videos.
Yeah but I doubt he is having a difficult time being charitable to a PCA church
What a stunning church. It is both simple and complex, rich and humble. And its minister seems like a very faithful shepherd.
love this channel
Love your comments about different expressions of Christianity!!!
I have really enjoyed watching this series - I grew up half Baptist (father's side) and half Catholic (mother's side), and have filtered through a number of protestant churches and have recently joined a Presbyterian church. I hope you have an episode where you talk church history, their concept of a confessional church.
Give Catholicism another chance brother. The Catholic Church contains the fullness of truth. She is the Church that Christ founded. God bless.
@@garrettknowles4007 lol. You want him to join your wreck of a denomination?
@@garrettknowles4007 The Catholic Church is a mixture of the true faith which was merged with the Babylonian Magi when they settled in Pergamus and influenced the Roman Emperor Constantine to adopt their traditions. The idea of the Pope came from the name that the Magi gave to their priest which was "chief bridge builder". In Latin it is translated as "Pontifus Maximus". So basically Catholicism is a perverted form of Christianity that evolved from the Babylonian Magi polluting the church. That's why we have traditions now of idolatrous statues in churches, gaudy elaborate cathedrals, masses that imitate Old Testament sacrificial ordinances, clergy that dress up in wizard costumes etc. Jesus said "no one comes to the Father except through me". We do not need clergy to intercede for us, and we most certainly are not to call any man father.
Praise God!
Always happy to see a new video drop. And as a Messianic your Saturday uploads actually help keep me focussed on Sabbath.
I would love for Matt to visit a Messianic Congregation. I would love him to visit
Rabbi Greg Hershberg in Macon, GA at Beth Yeshua International. Rabbi Greg is
originally from NY, and is a very dynamic Messianic Rabbi, with a growing
international ministry with this congregation. I'm not in GA, but watch the Sabbath
Service on CZcams. That interview would really reach Matt's audience.
@@HJKelley47 I would love to see it too. Although my recommendation would be to contact Executive Director Monique Brumbach at the Union of Messianic Jewish Congregations and make sure you get dialed in with one of the top theological voices based on their recommendation. There's not a lot in the middle of the country where Matt is but Rabbi Stuart Dauermann in California does a lot of work with the broader Christian community, and Rabbi Dr. Mark Kinzer in Michigan actually is the leading voice in Messianic-Catholic dialogue and might be of particular interest this audience.
@@adambrickley9088 : Which ever way Matt would chose to go,. visiting a Messianic Jewish
Congregation would be interesting. I will say Rabbi Hershberg grew up as an Orthodox Jew
in NY, with Bar Mitzvah and all things part of the Orthodox Jewish tradition. Had not given
thought to the Messianic-Catholic dialogue perspective. I feel it might interest a particular
audience. Let's just hope that Matt reaches out to this expression of the Body of Christ
(Messiah).
@@HJKelley47 Amen :-)
loved all the information from the pastor. I a methodist at a young age, then a baptist but attend several bible studies who never mentioned their denomination but found out later they were independent Bible or Presbyterian who taught the Word verse by verse. joined serval Baptist churches but always spoke from a Reformed presprective and had very little company. finally moved to a PCA and am where my beliefs always were. thanks to a Pastor who really kept the focus on true Christianity and the Word. thanks for you probing questions.
I love his church shaped like the ark! And those stain glass windows 😇🥰
I'm a presbyterian from Brazil and I love to see my denomination around the world! Thanks for the video
I'm from meghalaya, north east india.. n I'm a Presbyterian..
Great job, Matt. And big thanks to Ethan. It's got to be stressful when you are kind of asked to represent an entire denomination. (I know that in my own denomination there is a WIDE spectrum of people)
Thank you for enriching our lives
I love this series of videos, love with conviction, brotherhood with differences is possible in Christ. I have learned so much and it has done much good, please keep it up.
That was a really nice church, I have to say though, as an Orthodox Christian, it was really somewhat entertaining to me to see him sort of dance around the concept of iconography and stuff, especially with those stained glass windows (which were beautiful, by the way). It's always interesting to see reformed churches who are still relatively "high church" (comparatively speaking, anyways). Wish you could've had time to sit down and work out some theological stuff with him. I know you always do, but make sure Rev. Sayler we all appreciated the opportunity to see his church.
To be honest, this is a low church even on a presbyterian standard, with no communion table, no pulpit etc. Within most Presbyterian churches even those considered low churches still keep the communion table, pulpit and have organised forms of worship. Many historically presbyterian churches especially the PCusa ones are elaborately decorated as well. Though they themselves deny it, Presbyterians are actually quite tolerant of images and symbols compared to most other denominations of Protestantism barring Methodist, Lutherans and Anglicans.
@@RuataLungchuangThere was a pulpit and communion table.
the architecture reminds me of a medieval catholic parish church, and that speech about it being an ark is actually quite fitting, the space which he was referring to is called the nave, which means ship. I definately see a lot of echoes of Catholicism in that church, the art was especially evocative of that, it shows how close our traditions are, i remember reading a Presbyterian service book and being amazed at how close what i was reading was to the roman missal, many of the basic prayers and structure being the same. And the theology he had of salvation seemed related to our theory of salvation which ultimately goes back to anselm, although obviously there are stark contrasts, and the Presbyterian theory is in reaction to the catholic one. thank you for this series, it has really got me to think about the connections between me and other christians
Ebenezer-God sovereignty directed me to that passage the morning after my daughter was stillborn. Always a poignant reminder of God’s unfailing love…even when life doesn’t make sense
That's so powerful and beautiful ❤❤❤ bless you
Good old Press Button B’s 😊 my church although I use a Lutheran Church now because there are no Presbyterians in my new country. Good bless all, Ian
Thank you for doing these videos. It's nice for the Christian community to get to know each other better. To appreciate the differences.
I really like how you focus on what makes us ONE in Him! You're taking all the things we as Christians have in common and showing them to us, the viewer, to remind us that as Christians, we are ONE in Him. I like what pastor Ethan said, '...the pastor's job is to remind us who we are and satan just wants to steal our identity...' There is a divisive spirit who wants us to focus on the things we don't have in common (stealing our identity) and you (Matt) are reminding us who (and Who's) we are...that we are ONE in Him together as the body of Christ, just as Jesus and the Father and the Spirit are ONE (St. John 17 20-23). "How good and how pleasant it is, when brothers dwell together as one!" (PSALM 133:1) Btw...cool trivia about the name Ebeneser. I always wondered what that meant in the song, "Here I raise my Ebenezer..." (Come Thou Font Of Every Blessing) and could not get past the only reference I had to the name, Ebeneser Scrooge (produced kinda a funny image in my mind)...makes you wonder, was Dickens trying to say that the protagonist in his Christmas Carol story was a stone of a man, yet even he was not beyond the grace of God (Spirit of Christmas), finding salvation he became the help of God (Eben-Ezer) to others in need? Here I raise my Ebenezer | Here by Thy great help I've come | And I hope by Thy good pleasure | Safely to arrive at home
I am a Presbyterian and am thrilled that you visited this church. The church that I attend is not as ornate as this church but has beams on the ceiling like this one that are seem to be pointing to God. I just did not pay it any attention before, but I will from now on. I did notice that a lot of the woodwork on the walls is very similar to my church which must be their for a reason. Anyway, I really enjoyed this visit and thanks so much!
Thanks Matt, for acknowledging us…Joe and Linda Ha
Athiest, turned protestant, turned Catholic here--i really appreciate your work. Well done bro!
Was raised Presbyterian but honestly haven't really heard all the details of their beliefs spelled out. This is informative and really interesting to understand the reasoning behind their practices! I will likely be converting to Orthodoxy soon, but this is so helpful in explaining my own background to give priests more context to work with.
I look forward to future videos where you explore deeper into Presbyterianism. Please remember, there are branches of the Presbyterian church that do differ on key points. Whether PCA, Orthodox Presbyterian, PCUSA, EPC, etc. you will find general similarities but some specific differences that may surprise you. Please remind your audience that this is but one view of Presbyterianism. Thanks a lot for your content!
As an OPC guy, seconded!
I'm a member of a ELCA Lutheran church, and we've got some differences from the Missouri Synod Lutheran church (as a generality we're more open to women pastors and the LGBTQ community), so I felt the same way when he interviewed the Missouri Synod Lutheran pastor. I like learning about the different expressions of Christianity.
Even within a Presbyterian denomination there can be a diversity of beliefs. My church is Presbyterian within the PCUSA denomination. My church is conservative in doctrine but the music is contemporary and the worship style is informal.
Agreed! I was raised PCUSA, and I was really surprised by the differences.
@@Sincyn241 most PCUSA churches are more like a Methodist church than a truly reformed church. There are exceptions.
I'm excited. I know that I'm often uncharitable towards Calvinism and could use some learning!
I was extremely against it initially, but the more I looked into it the more I realized how biblically sound it is.
I was as well, now I am one!
Calvinism has been ruined by people who think that anyone they happen to dislike for petty political reasons is damned and anyone that they happen to like for equally petty political reasons is among the elect.
Only God gets to make that call, all we can do is act in ways that meet what we are called to do.
Even if I am not among the elect, I still get this life to live and can see the wisdom in doing what is good for its own sake.
No transactions involved - God makes the decision and you can’t buy your way into grace with good behavior.
@@Justanotherconsumer I personally haven't experienced this. I don't speak for all obviously bout our churches try to remain very politically neutral. We don't buy into the sham of political evangelical nationalism.
In my experience, even self-identified Calvinists can't fully get with Calvinism. Most are three or four point Calvinists; there's always one point that they can't completely square with.
Good video. I like seeing a Pastor who is willing to explain why they believe what they believe instead of pointing and saying they are right and you are wrong.
When you begin to witness by telling someone they are wrong then you loose the witness right away.
Matt, you are a thing. Pastors should want to talk with you. You answer questions I never even thought about
How beautiful this Presbyterian temple is! And the pastor, with great wisdom and education, explained everything very well. I am also a Presbyterian, I am part of the Presbyterian Church of Brazil. Founded by the American missionary, Reverend Ashbel Green Simonton, in 1862. 💚
What a fabulous church! In a world full of darkness we need the light more than ever.
Very interesting I love How this minister Explained The reformed faith . This is exactly how I would explain my belief in Christ
I grew up Presbyterian, now Catholic. Really enjoyed this video, especially your commentary on simple versus elaborate decoration. To clarify, Catholics do not do anything to try to impress God, it is all about worship of God. God bless!!!
Thank you so much for the series! Once again, I enjoyed this video And the perspective that it brings. I also got kind of excited because I live about an hour away from Lennox, South Dakota. I also have often wondered about that particular design style in churches because I see it frequently and churches in this area of the Midwest. I’ve often wondered if, at the time these churches were built, there was a major company or supplier that supplied beams like that. In my own town, several churches have very similar designs to the church in this video, and they are from A variety of denominations. In my small town of 10,000, there is a Presbyterian Church, Baptist Church, Methodist church, and reformed Church of America with a very similar design to the Lennox Ebeneezer Presbyterian Church.
So I don’t know if it was a theological decision or an engineering and supply decision, but I’ve always wondered.
Once again, thanks for the videos, and I look forward to seeing more.
This is exactly what I love about these videos. We so often learn that we have something beautiful in common: We love Jesus! We may have differences in the way we express it, but that's ok!
As a South African Presby Minister , this was a pleasure to watch, thank you and thank you to the Rev.
Very informative and positive.
I like the stained glass windows a lot, very unique yet reverent style. I wouldn't expect them from a Reformed church.
Wao🥰🥰🥰am Presbyterian Church from Rwanda I really love it till I die
Glad you were able to visit a Reformed church!! I thought that was funny with the images of Christ as well. What’s interesting about the Reformed tradition during the Reformation is that it took place in many different places and some things weren’t exactly the same. I’m sure your interview will cover these things but images of Christ, holy days, exclusive psalmody vs inclusive hymnody were areas where not all of the Reformed tradition was 100% agreed upon. They may have to bar up those windows if some VERY Puritan minded Reformed show up haha Looking forward to the interviews. I hope the discussion on the sacraments gets into our use of sign and seal terminology. Anyways I love the Church catholic and pray daily for MORE unity. God bless!
I love this series where you go to different denominations and tour there church. You should visit an Messianic Jewish Synagogue as an outsider next!
Waiting for the next video in this series
Two things have struck me in this series.
1. If I'm traveling and want to worship somewhere I know enough of some of these other churches that I can worship with them.
2. I'm continually amazed that we all have the same book but have come to such different conclusions as how to act out our faith.
Thanks for doing these dig into the trenches videis!!!
I grew up at a korean Presbyterian Church in Dallas. The stain glass windows, choir and the organ is what I think of church. Right now, I'm just attending any local church (regardless of the denomination). I think I identify more non-denominational. It overwhelms me of which church to pick just because of the denomination. Thank you for educating the public on all the Christian denominations!
Hi there. Im 38 years old and only just found my way to the Lord about 18 months ago. Its been hard with covid and not being able to physically attend church here in Australia, i currently am a member of a Pentacostal church. But i have been watching your videos lately to see what else is out there and have found them very helpful. So many denominations wich gets overwhelming as a new christian but i will know which one i belong when i feel it more passionatly i guess. Dont get me wrong i do like my church and its members are all lovely, friendly and welcoming but i just cant get around the whole speaking in tongues and the slain in the spirit processes. Just very strange to me. I will keep studying my bible and God will show me the way and where i belong. Thanks for the great videos guys.. 🙏👍
I went to a Presbyterian church growing up, and ours looked very similar to this one! I didn't know that specific architecture style was a theological decision, very cool!
I am a non denominational Christian and I really like the "ark" look of this church.
I think that the theological implications of having church in an ark like structure is awesome and a genius idea!
Nondenomination is a domination.
I came to be Presbyterian about 3 years ago at my local OPC after a few years in a nondenominational church . The ordinary means of grace are extraordinary 😉