An Outsider Visits a Lutheran Church
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- čas přidán 30. 10. 2019
- The Missouri Synod Lutheran Church was an entirely new experience for me. I can't wait to share it with you!
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As a Catholic, I am profoundly happy to see this pastor talking. He seems to be a holy man who loves the Lord. May his church and congregation be blessed with wisdom and peace.
this is not catholic by the way, he is a protestant minister
@@eddyj2823 hence he said pastor... And not priest.
@@eddyj2823 clearly he knows that
@@TexterEX bruh
TexterEX Catholics don’t worship Mary, there’s this thing called DULIA. Search it up.
As a German Lutheran it made me so happy to see my church so vibrantly and joyfully alive in the US.
Leider gibt es ein kleines Missverständnis. Der Glaube alleine reicht nicht aus, zur Errettung. Denn, es gibt den Glauben vom hören und den Glauben vom sehen. Das was wir sehen sind unsere Taten, sie sind eine Folge von dem Glauben vom hören. Es steht geschrieben, "gerettet werden" immer Zukunft, das bedeutet es ist ein Prozess.
What should I expect
We are the most prevalent Christian religion besides catholicism
@@michaadamczykcantillana religion
@@Naked_Sports200 You mean you FEEL, you are not thinking.
I am a proud Russian Orthodox Christian and I have to say, I loved this pastor’s energy and enthusiasm. His congregation is blessed to have him. God Bless ☦️
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Dont bless the heretics, convert them
I am a confessional lutheran and I wouldn’t want to worship any other way. I went to other churches, left the church completely to be a wild godless party animal until God woke me up and carried me back. LCMS has always felt like home to me. This pastor did an amazing job and is so enthusiastic about His faith and his church and it’s soooo encouraging. I had goosebumps the whole time listening to him talk.
I totally agree with you regarding matt , his an absolute gem!
Besides did you ever visit the church of jesus christ of latter day saints by any chance?
Kindly let me know your thoughts how it goes or feels like when you visit them.
Besides, i love luthranes, amazing peeps!
God bless you wherever you are at.
Kind regards,
Thanks again!
@@mwambuelijah9960the issue friend is though you have “faith” in Jesus, you fundamentally believe in a different Jesus than all historic Christianity. You believe in a created Jesus, and the father whom once used to be not God, but a man, and this is DIRECTLY against scripture, ”“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. BEFORE ME NO GOD was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.“
Isaiah 43:10 God says there are none before, nor after him, this verse alone proves Mormonism, is a heretical group, who does NOT believe in the same God as the Bible. You can’t have faith in the wrong God and expect to be saved. Turn to the traditional triune God, and obey his word. God bless you friend, may we be brothers in the same Christ some day❤️
I am not religious but seeing everyone you speak to being so open and thoughtful with their faith is what finally convinced me to attend Evensong at St Paul's Cathedral. It was lovely and very moving, I cried a little bit.
I hear you on the not religious thing Anna. I was not a Christian for a time after seminary, but I see a whole lot of beauty and Truth in this thing, and I came back to it. I hugely respect you going and taking in a service as someone who is skeptical of the whole proposition. That's big, and it's brave.
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@@MattWhitmanTMBH I like your show a lot! Thank you for your thoughtful reply :)
Anna as an American Catholic I thank you for being open to attending a service at St. Paul's. I lived in England and was able to go to Kings College Chapel but not St Paul's. There is a beauty to all of these services that it seems you recognized. Good luck
@@jg2072 Although it is quite beautiful and seems like it is in praise of God, Our Lord dwells not in there. The Church forbids us to participate in the Rites of Non-Catholics.
Sometimes as a Catholic, Protestant churches seem so foreign then you step into a Lutheran Church(Anglican, Episcopal churches as well) you see the connections. A beautiful church.
I feel the exact same way - hopefully, they will one day see their errors and return to the Mother Church!
@@Multi0703 in Bible which one God say Mother , Mary is God ? Don't be so wrong and fall to very deeply with Satan .
@@rinhana238 So let's go back to our Logic 101 class:
Jesus = God
Mary = Jesus' mother
Therefore, Mary = Mother of God
Saying the opposite is blasphemous in Christianity and forces you to not be a Christian, but rather a Jew or a Muslim !
@@Multi0703 I only believe in Holy spirit Bible , and all of god here is reality, it doesn't like people who walk by the wrong ways out from God Say Mary is God .
@@rinhana238 Denying that Mary is the Mother of God is a blasphemy, that is why I will never be able to be a Protestant. Protestants teach heresies and go against the Word of Jesus Christ and the Word of the Bible.
Martin Luther was not just a Catholic monk - He was highly educated and had the equivalent of multiple doctorates. He knew the theology he was trained in inside and out and also knew it didn’t line up with many of the teachings of the church.
As a Catholic, I often encounter the complaint that "we don't do full emersion baptism", so somehow it must be wrong. This pastor beautifully explained--it's not about the "amount of water", it's about the Word(s) used in the Sacrament! I feel like I just wandered into a Catholic Church!
Uhm...no....sorry. Baptism, from khoine greek means: to immerse. And it was done like this from the beginning roughly til the west began adding changes upon changes to the faith.
@@Blueray93Romania Can you give evidence that it was always done by immersion before said "changes" were added? Because I can refer you to probably the earliest Christian manual for Christian practice called the Didache, which many scholars actually believe was written in the first century, and it seems to say the manner of baptism doesn't really matter. See section VII on baptism, in which it states that pouring water on the head three times is a valid method of baptism. ;)
@@bethanyann1060 And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19 in living water. But if you have not living water, baptize into other water; and if you can not in cold, in warm. But if you have not either, pour out water thrice upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whatever others can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.
This implied immersion. Pouring seems to be when no other means is available. Because it says "if you have not either" THEN.
So...in the correct Orthodox way, the person is baptised by immersion and only if proper water is lacking or there is an emergency(life or death situstion) is one baptised. So we see changes and changes brought by the Romans throughout the centuries which, of course, ended with the reformation.
Sorry but the Catholic Church is THE authority on Christianity, as they are the ORIGINAL. If Catholics have been doing Baptisms without full immersion, then it’s OK. I fully respect other methods of practicing Christianity so long as they believe in Jesus Christ as God. But to say that a Baptism isn’t valid because it’s not full immersion is ignorant and flies in the face of 2000 years of Christian worship.
@@billmartin3561 While I wouldn't agree that the ROMAN Catholic church is the original church, since the Eastern part of the church and their bishops were also present for the first thousand years, I agree that saying immersion is the only valid form of baptism is ignorant of what the church as a whole has practiced for the entire church age. I appreciate what you said about other branches of Christianity, so thank you for that!
This has got to be the most energetic pastor I’ve ever seen!
I love his excitement. It's contagious.. 😀
Energetic but not saved.
Wil Weedon is famed in the synod for his enthusiasm. I always loved listening to his line by line commentary on the Bible.
Old School Muscle there are people like this on every TMBH video 😂
Old School Muscle There's always a nasty "Pharisee " on every blog!
I am an Eastern Catholic & this pastor seems very energetic. Most certainly that his congegation is very lucky to have someone like him on the altar. Great video Matt
This dude is the embodiment of *pure energy*
The energies of god is an old church concept... maybe it is visible here?
Coffee is awesome.
This video is partly why I chose to join a Confessional Lutheran church almost a year ago. Soli Deo Gloria!
God be praised!
Regarding the assumption that EVERY symbol and rubric possesses meaning, I used to attend a very similar Missouri Synod church. During the liturgy one Sunday the pastor stopped mid sentence, lowered his head, took about five seconds of silence, and then resumed. Afterwards I asked about the meaning of the pause, and he responded, "That portion of the liturgy is called, 'Whoops, I made a mistake and forgot my place.'" Ah, a liturgy so beautiful that even the mistakes look reverent.
Best part:
Matt: "You do the Wakanda forever gesture..."
Pastor: "THE WHAT?"
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The wakanda was amazing!! And I say it without any intend to disrespect. I love these videos to better understand as an outsider a different practice on faith.
You couldn't have chosen a better representative than Pastor Weedon. He's awesome!
If there is a more joyful Lutheran in all the world, I haven't met them.
I’m proud to be Catholic. Founded by Christ Himself!😊❤
Lutheran is a reformed Church . I go with the original
Catholic Church founded by Christ .
As an LCMS Lutheran, I feel honored that you did this video. Thank you for checking us out. And yes, Pastor Will Weedon is indeed nuts in a good way.
I think it is very interesting. 😀
What's LCMS?
@@Mr.Truxton Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod. There are other synods, the ELCA, Wisconsin etc..LCMS is the second largest synod.
@@flinttim Weird, I'm just a finnish evangelical lutheran so I don't know anything about that.
@@Mr.Truxton What church body? State church or free church? There is a small chance that you are part of a sister church to the LCMS, who maintains fellowship with confessional churches in many countries.
Hey Matt! I'm an adult convert to Lutheran Missouri Synod from Southern Baptist. I found Lutheranism to be a very familiar message with my understanding of the Gospel. Your interview was well done. I will be following you my friend.
As life long Lutheran Church Missouri member, I have to say the "complexity" of the service is comforting. I fell from the church from sin and guilt more than once in my life. Returning was so easy. The hymns, the words, the flow were the same when I was a 5 year old in 1973 sitting with my grandmother. It was so easy. Thank you.
non-liturgical worship is useless in my opinion. save it for bible study. Every church since the early days has been liturgical
@@Numenorean921 I am not Lutheran, but Eastern Orthodox. I realize there are differences between us, but I think God is far more present in liturgical worship, than in a more evangelical free type of service. I'm not sure how well I have expressed myself, for that I apologize.
God became far more present for me at my first liturgy than ever before. I could not go back to a non liturgical church again and feel as connected as I am in the liturgy.
@@shirleygoss1988 when you say you could never go back to a non-liturgical service, what denomination was it a part of? Thank you for your time, and God bless you ✝️
@Michael Torres I actually grew up in the. LDS (Mormon) religion. I got "saved" and was in various Baptist denominations for 11 years before coming to the Eastern Orthodox faith.
Howdy Mac McMurry... Mac McCabe here -- also a lifelong member of numerous LC-MS churches. I have a very similar backstory as well. What part of the country do you live in? I'm in the Northwest +pax+
As a Catholic, I love this guys energy I wish more people had this kind of enthusiasm about God
I wish more of the protestant brothers and sister had the enthusiasm I see with this pastor and many priest in high liturgy churches
As a Roman Catholic, I have a profound respect for the LCMS. They're probably one of the only Lutheran churches that have stuck by the original doctrine. A lot of what they do for their Sunday Divine Service is very similar to what many Catholics would observe in a typical mass. Unfortunately, I do have to say that sometimes the LCMS can often appear more Catholic than your typical Catholic "Novus Ordo" in that they might actually use incense, sing traditional hymns and use organ as the sole accompaniment. Unfortunate for the Catholics, not Lutherans of the Missouri Synod. I know a Greek Catholic priest whose brother was dating a Lutheran girl to try to convert her. She was LCMS and they met in the middle for what they will do on Sunday, mass first, Divine service after. After that, he asked himself "what am I going to convert her to? The service was more Catholic than the mass itself." That gave me a good laugh. All of the divisions in the church are unfortunate, but I'm happy that the LCMS and more doctrinally conservative Catholics can agree on many issues like social teaching.
This makes me very sad, as you correctly state, this chapel looks more Catholic that most novus ordo modernist parishes. Altar rails, ad orientum, etc
@@greypilgrim1649 One I know of in particular looks like a United Nations hall.
Crappy weird futurism.
The Lutheran Mass which is the Catholic Mass is the same in Lutheran churches worldwide. I am not knocking the LCMS since that is the Synod I was raised in. But all Lutherans worship alike with few exceptions. In fact, in European Lutherans [e.g. Sweden, Finland, etc.] looks so catholic [incense and bells] that one would not be able to tell the difference.
I prefer to stick with my trustable tridentine mass instead of making friends with heresy.
Lutheran service is the Holy Mass. Augsburg Confession.
I think his is the first time I have seen an outsider actually look at at Lutheran Church without labeling it "too Catholic" or " too Protestant" too "stodgy" or "boring" the r "intellectual." To have someone actually look and see how exciting my faith is, was very gratifying. Thank you for this video!
AGREE! Loved this. Love being an LCMS Lutheran.
Yeah i dont get how anyone can think lutherans are too catholic.
Signed a firmer lutheran that finally got away from that heresy
This video has made me considering attending one of our local Lutheran churches.
@@bryanbridges2987 Just be sure it's not ELCA.
I think this is a really good representation.
I've been searching for a denomination. I have been torn between Lutheran and presbyterian, but I think this has helped me decide to try Lutheran first. Thank you.
@JRKirkpatrick Did you decide?
I was considering both myself but Presbyterians are Calvanists and that helped me decide to become LCMS.
@@christy31180 Yes, my sister and I joined the LCMS. It's been a blessing.
I left the Mormon church. Learning now about other Christian churches is fascinating. Your videos are very interesting and helpful. Thank you!
What did you go with?
Some say that Mormonism is not real Christianity. Is that so?
@@isaaccutlip5815 …we are attending a local church that is affiliated with the PCA. otherwise, we haven’t officially joined any other church, but we are happy where we are now.
@@Violet_Lotus_ …in my perspective, yes, Mormonism is not real or true Christianity according to the Bible. They believe in the “man” of Jesus Christ but they differ hugely on the spiritual nature of God and the Son of God according to the Bible. There is so much more but I don’t have time right now to explain. Mormons are super kind people but they don’t follow the Bible completely. They have added doctrines that differ from Biblical Christianity.
@@BGCflyer that's amazing . It's was PCA or Calvary chapel for me , both are small start ups without church buildings. I went with Calvary chapel but if anything changes I will think I'll go to the PCA church
I'm a Lutheran from Finland and it was such a joy to see how similar yet slightly different things are there in the US. Thanks for making this video!
This is just one example. My LCMS church seems a lot different. Not in doctrine but just style of service.
Terveiset Suomen luterilaiselta kirkolta Venäjältä. On hienoa huomata, että olemme kaikki niin samanlaisia. Herra siunatkoon teitä!
I got to go to a service in the Czech Republic (in Polish that day because of how close it is to Poland) and it was so cool to hear the same tunes and to be able to tell what part of the service we were in despite the language difference just because of how similar it is all over the world. Now I want to go to as many Lutheran churches in different languages as I can, it brings me so much joy to see us all worshipping in the same way across time and space, for generations and generations
@gwenj5419 I've been to a lot of both LCMS and WELS churches. Most are fairly similar but none are the same. Some of them may as well be Catholic, others mega non-denom.
I am direct descendant of Martin Luther. Still a Lutheran after all these years ✝️ Thanks for being super cool!
I love this pastor's enthusiasm! As a Catholic, if I wasn't told this was a Lutheran church I don't think I would know the difference.
They can look fairly similar... sometimes even more Catholic than actual Catholic churches.
The Mass used today (Novus Ordo) was modled after the Lutherans. If you see a traditional Latin Mass it is quite different
@@richardounjian9270 Have you actually seen a Lutheran service? The basic structure is based off the medieval Mass.
@@Magnulus76 I don't disagree with you. The Novus Ordo is based off the Tridentine Mass. However, the Lutheran and Catholic liturgies are almost indistinguishable to a common observer in this video. When I was younger, I dated a Lutheran and went to church with her frequently. I used to think that the Lutherans copied our Mass. Now. I realize that we basically copied the Lutherans after Vatican 2
@@richardounjian9270 The Tridentine Mass has a few differences but the overall structure is very similar. It's more similar to the Novus Ordo than it is to a Protestant service you'll find in a Presbyterian or Baptist church.
As a Minnesotan I mostly know ELCA Lutherans and had a lot of stereotypes about LCMS, Pastor Wesson did a great job helping me better understand what drives the Missouri Synod group.
Uploaded on Reformation Day 2 years ago! In 2019 I started my journey in studying Catholicism, and thought I might actually convert! I ended up discovering Lutheranism. I actually watched this video a couple of times a year or so ago and loved it. I've shared it with others too. This Reformation Day, which happens to be a Sunday this year, I'll be entering the LCMS.
Posting a video on the Lutheran Church on the 502nd anniversary of Luther posting his 95 thesis: well played.
10 Minute Bible Sass...well played, guys. Seriously though, Lutherans seem like cool people.
And Europe has been in decline ever since great job Martin Luther!
Heresy but God calls us to call those back towards the Universal, apostolic church.
Yes, the video really "nails" it .... hah.
@@kzizzles8329 your arrogance is outstanding
I'm Roman Catholic but I love this pastor!
Even me.. I'm not Catholic but I love my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ,
This is the thread I'm hoping for :)
If you were catholic and you loved him you wouldnt be so supportive of his active heresy
@@MrTelepicker thats apostasy. And in case you forgot we threw that thing out. Hes not the real pope. Only one man can have that imprint on his soul at a time. Benedict is pope. The idol in the cathederal proves it
Scott Lewis hey man am an orthodox Christian and could u explain what the catholic view of Mary differs from ours ?
This Pastor’s energy is so happy you can really tell he has the Holy Spirit.
As a lifelong LCMS member, this a a great series will Pastor Will! I’ve watched it numerous times.
I was confirmed in the LCMS just last Sunday. It's nice seeing this video pop up.
Pretty sure I saw you post about this on reddit...lol. But welcome!
@@brycepatties whoa, that's a strange case of internet paths crossing, haha. Thanks!
Congratulations
Congratulations! I rejoice for another sheep coming into the fold of Christ.
@DJTripleThreat78 congratulations
As a Catholic who studied at a Benedictine monastery, my mind is just boggling around right now. I knew that the Roman Catholic and Missouri Synod Lutheran structures (both in theology and building) are similar, but not how similar. He did a better job explaining things than many Catholic priests (about things in common). This was great, and cool! Thanks!
I study at a Benedictine university and it was the same for me watching this video
@@MrIzz Or one holy and apostolic church and heresies lmao
@@MrIzz Well differing interpretations will exist. Hence the denominations. The important thing though is one's faith and walk with God regardless of which church you attend. 🙂
The Lutheran Liturgy is essentially the same as a Catholic Mass even with the same prayers and scripture readings.
@@Talmai2001 That makes sense the more I think about it. The biggest differences would be our rememberance of the Saints and belief in what happens with the Eucharist.
Fun fact: luther never wanted to create the protestant church, just to change roman catholicism, not even the papal succession
That is typically how it works, JESUS didn't create Christianity he really reformed Judaism
@@practicalbibleapplication162 correct
Sort of, but he was kind of forced to when they excommunicated him. The German Lutherans typically referred to themselves as Protestants until other protestant splinter groups started forming from outside of them.
@Siebenstern Blessings to you
We are the Original Evangelical Catholic Church. Us Lutherans. Nobody beats our beautiful TLH liturgy and songs.
I love how he exudes the love of Christ so much. So down to earth as I see Jesus in the word. Blessing
You picked the best pastor to speak with on this for Lutheranism
I personally think he should have spoken with Has Fiene.
slenderpup yes, or maybe even Pastor Borghardt (Immanuel, Bossier City LA) or Pastor Petersen (Redeemer, Fort Wayne IN)
The Sacrifice of the Mass is not a “repetition” of the Sacrifice at Calvary but the SAME Sacrifice from 2,000 years ago. The Mass transcends time and space since it is a supernatural event. So we really are present at the Foot of the Cross in the year 33 AD. Just thought I would correct Matt’s error in this video on what we as Catholics believe.
Derrek Garcia amen
John in PA it’s a not a representation, it IS theee one single real sacrifice of Christ on the cross.
Amen, my brothers and sisters
To Derrek Garcia- This is a very important clarification; thanks for making it. I have seen other Protestants make the same error. On the other hand, it is often stated that Lutherans believe in "Consubstantiation", which is not an official teaching of the Lutheran Church. Lutherans refuse to explain the mystery of the Sacrament, and so do not so much as reject Transubstantiation as decline to affirm it. They prefer to leave it as a mystery, while insisting on the Real Presence of Christ in the Sacrament of the Altar- the Holy Eucharist.
Your catechism does say that it is a re-presentation. The sacrifice does not however need to be re-presented to God the Father, it is once for all. The Lord's Supper is Jesus giving us the benefits of the cross, His Body and Blood for the forgiveness of our sins.
I'm an LCMS Lutheran was an Evangelical until my early 40s. There are maybe three men I would have chosen to represent my church, and Pastor Weedon is definitely one. Great job! I can't wait to see your next installment.
I'm guessing the others are Jesus and Luther
I love this Pastor. As a 63 year old Roman Catholic who is new to the LCMS I enjoyed listening to him answer all the questions with such enthusiasm. I am still learning myself and I learned a lot listening to all the information. Thanks be to God.
This "visit" series is informative and interesting.
As an Anglican I can say we are very thankful for out Lutheran Brothers and sisters!!!
That Will guy could almost make me want to be Lutheran. Fantastic dude. Making the faith look good.
This is beautiful. And even giving me some guilt. When he talks about how easy it is to tell others about something we enjoyed and yet how often I miss opportunities to tell others what glad tidings God gives us.
Jesus in the manger but not on the cross = discomfort with the cross. Hands down the most interesting point I’ve heard in any of these videos.
_23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles,_ (1 Cor 1)
Without the cross, there is no resurrection. Hence, we preach Christ crucified and prominently display the crucifix.
I had to go back and listen again to this part because I totally missed the quick point this pastor made that unlike much of Christendom, the empty cross offends "us" (Lutherans) because without Jesus there it lacks power over sin.
You couldn’t have picked a better person to interview.
Bryan Wolfmueller is also great.
I love the way this guy loves Jesus 😊
It's contagious!
His enthusiasm is infectious:)
Take it from me, an ex-reformed who turned confessional Lutheran; It seems so subtle these differences, but they are bigger than you first think.
Also, when considering liturgical traditions, you will either keep them or replace them with modern liturgy. Often, the modern version contains less of Gods word. That is not a good thing.
Several Reformed/ Calvinist denominations [ie. Presybertain] are in full communion with some Lutherans [ELCA and in Canada]. We are honored for all Christians to join us in worship and Holy Communion.
The strict reformed churches have way more of the word of God in the service compared to Lutheran's that violate the regulative principle and sing all these man made hymns many written by heretics instead of singing from God's inspired song book the Psalter.
innovation HQ Aha! And so what? If lutheran churches decide to go all Rick Warren, as many SBC-churches have, does that make the rest illegit? Guilt by association makes all Presbys guilty of Tchividjian’s sins.
I am talking about faithful confessional churches, and not some ELCA-gone-off-the-rails kind of stuff.
Come to my church and your comment would be put to shame
@@innovationhq8230 One of the most beautiful parts of the Lutheran Liturgy is the chanting of the Psalms by the cantor and choir or congregation. Plainsong chant is ancient. Luther's Mass was entirely chanted except homily.
@@innovationhq8230 Good job omitting two thirds of the command to sing Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs.
So interesting because I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran and sometimes forget how this looked to me when I first became Lutheran and also makes me cherish what we stand for for the glory of Jesus! Thank you
“Christ committed adultery for the first time with the woman at the well, of whom John speaks. Did they not murmur around him: ‘What then did he do with her?’ Later, he did the same with Magdalen, and shortly thereafter with the adulterous woman, whom he absolved so lightly. Thus, Christ, so pious, also had to fornicate before dying.”- Martin Luther
Hopefully not this kind of Lutheran. Yikes!
@@bethm4448 the statement is total blasphemy.
@@bethm4448 Do a little digging on that quote. It seems that was from one of his table talks and needs context added. I was shocked to see it since it's inconsistent with his teaching, so looked it up. :)
@@litlckrets Would you say this to anyone at any point in your life? He's a very bad guy. No way around it.
@@lc-mschristian5717 Yes, Luther seemed to enjoy blasphemy :(
I fell in love with the Lutheran tradition because it allowed me to keep true to the Eucharist, Rosary, the saints, and Mother Mary without having to be stuck in such a rigid hierarchy.
I became Lutheran (LCMS) about 3 months ago! It’s great
I was confirmed on Reformation Day 2020 and haven’t looked back.
The thing (it seems to me) we need to get from this series is...That Which Unites Us (JESUS) Is Sooo Much Greater Than That Which Divides Us.
Amen to that.
Amen .. I agree
It is the desire of Our Lord that we all be one, John 17.
@@stpaulphillip
A pastor I had many many decades ago told me that. In addition to 'Some Of Your Theology/Doctrine is Completely Totally Utterly WRONG....and so is mine."
I used to believe all these various Christian Sects/Denominations were wrong/sinful/not in Gods Plan. When I really thought about it I realized they aree part of Gods plan. We are all different, have different needs.
AMEN
I’m so glad you went to talk with Pr Weedon. He’s truly a wonderful man of God and a great blessing to our church.
I loved his last book and all of his appearances on Issues Etc.!
I'll say.
He seems like a good pastor.
He needs to get saved.
Yep, they chose very well. Pr. Weedon's one of our very best.
This guy's a hoot. Lovely pastors are the best.
Hamil, IL???? So cool! My dad is an LCMS pastor, and my mom's a deaconess! I love being LCMS, especially meeting fellow LCMS teens!
This series is one of the best things on the internet right now. It's amazing to see someone being genuinely interested in what others believe and think, and not just ask questions to get more ammo in debates. I love that you show the world that it's possible to have good and meaningful conversations with people you might disagree with. The respect you show to all different kinds of people is really inspiring! For me (as a Finnish Lutheran theology student) it was also quite interesting to hear an American Lutheran talk about these things and see how similarly things are done over there despite the cultural differences. I hope you continue to do this series!
Yes kudos to both the interviewer [he is quite astude] and the wondrously interesting Pastor Weedon.
I am an LCMS Lutheran in America (with VERY Lutheran Scandinavian roots) and it's amazing to see the uniformity of our liturgy and customs in the church all across the world. Of course there are some differences, but overall every traditional lutheran service I have been to has the same general shape and is instantly recognizable. The best example was when I attended a service on the eastern border of the Czech Republic. I may not have known the language, but I could tell exactly where we were in the order of service. Gospel reading, Lord's Prayer, Benediction, whatever it was. And hearing it all in a different language too, is so special. When we sang the hymns, I sang along in the English lyrics while hearing the Polish or Czech (since it was a bilingual service). I would love to attend more services in all sorts of different countries. It's such a special experience.
Rev. Weedon is a very talented Pastor. Every time he speaks it's an old, yet new and exciting, experiance in learning.
This is a great idea for a Netflix series. Spend three episodes highlighting a particular christian denomination visiting congregations and delving into their beliefs and practices and demonstrating at the end of each episode what all Christians share in common.
This just feels right, feels like coming home
Thank you so much for visiting St. Paul and talking with Pastor Weedon. You could not have found a better representative of the Missouri Synod as a whole, and I am so glad that you came away with the feeling of "the whole Church for 2000 years." I was raised Lutheran, but that's why I stayed Lutheran.
Thank you for doing this video. It was very well done and respectful. I am LCMS. My husband and I converted to it from different church backgrounds so I totally understand how it looks to outsiders. The liturgy is sometimes hard to get the hang of in the beginning. But what really drew me to love it is that it is the words from the Bible (sometimes easier seen in the service book with the text references) and that connection to Christians before us. My husband later went to seminary and we were assigned a field work church (mentoring church) where he got to learn more about the liturgy, traditions, and ceremonies that the Lutheran church kept because it confessed something about our faith and scripture. Now my husband is a LCMS priest/ pastor not far from this church. Blessings to you.
You and your husband should get over here for a visit sometime!
Angelica "But what really drew me to love it is that it is the words from the Bible (sometimes easier seen in the service book with the text references) and that connection to Christians before us. " Yes! We're still pretty new to the LCMS (confirmed earlier this year) and were completely unfamiliar with the liturgy. My kids' eyes lit up the first time they realized Bible verses we were reading at home were what we sang at church during Diving Service! It's all centered on Christ. No more pendulum of pride and despair, but trusting in God's promises. We are so grateful to now receive God's gifts each week.
Great video! I'm from the same Synod, but in Brazil. The theology it's the same, and the pastor did very great in his explanation of the Church and the Liturgical aspects. It's very great joy to be representaded by him.
Pastor Weedon reminds me of my pastors that I grew up with back home. I just wish we had pastors like him in Florida where I am now.
So pumped that you made it into a Confessional Lutheran church, and even more pumped that you went to St. Paul's and spoke with Pr. Weedon! I listen to him all the time and always love what he has to say, as well as his enthusiasm as he teaches it. Can't wait for part 2!!
Really nice video. Some brazilians are sharing your video on facebook. I'm a lutheran from Brazil, the LCMS started our church in here. The lutheran church is amazing and is just perfect to know that we are salved by the grace of Jesus Christ. May Jesus bless you, man.
My great-grandpa was a German Lutheran missionary in Brazil and my grandpa was born there, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear that.
@@atonewiththedust wow! I'm studying in the Seminary to be a pastor. In the first half of this year we learned about the history (or story, I don't know) of the missionarys from America. Maybe we have learned about him. What was his name?
@@ericksonbraun I'll try not to doxx myself but his last name was Lehenbauer
@@atonewiththedust oh, yes. At least three Lehenbauer's came to Brazil.
Fabulous! I am an LCMS Lutheran. Pastor Wheedon rocked it! This was well done and extremely informative (even for Lutherans! :)
What a perfect date to publish this video....October 31st.
Martin Luther would be pleased!
I just joined your channel and love it. I returned to my faith after 20 years and am currently attending a Lutheran (LCMS) church in my town and enjoy it very much.
That is such a beautiful building, without being pretentious. Sometimes I feel like my evangelical tradition is really missing out.
I used to be a evangelical quasi Baptist non denominational Christian who played in multiple praise bands. I found my way to confessional Lutheranism (LCMS just like the pastor in the video) and am so glad I did. We celebrated all saints day this last Sunday. The service was about the great cloud of witnesses we see in revelation gathered around the throne singing praises to the lamb. It will be so wonderful when we are all together in that crowd all singing Holy Holy Holy together. Of course, we sing the Sanctus (Holy Holy Holy) every Sunday so in a way, we are joining that great cloud of witnesses every Sunday. You should visit a confessional Lutheran church!
I’d encourage you to research other denominations as the 1st comment suggested^^ I myself was born and raised Catholic and I love it. Last year, I tried out an evangelical small group and church and it was good! There was definitely a lot of people passionate about Christ. I just felt out of place there and I missed the Catholic Church. I’d recommend watching “the hour that will change your life” by father mike Schmitz to start off and then read John Ch. 6. These teach about the Eucharist. If you look at these sources and they spark an interest in the Eucharist, I’d look into Catholicism. The sacraments and especially the Eucharist are what draws me to the Catholic Church. To me, God loves all people in all denominations equally, but I believe I personally am able to connect with him most in the Catholic Church simply because of the sacraments. Definitely look into it and look into other denominations too!!:)
Adam, I've been in your shoes. I grew up in Pentecostal churches, where the gospel--Jesus died for you--was definitely preached, but the emphasis was on internal feelings and signs, and a changed or charged spirit. In Lutheranism I came to learn that God's works are "extra nos"--outside of us, fully accomplished, and simply delivered our "poured in" through the preaching of God's Word and the sacraments of baptism and the Lord's Supper. Because of the emphasis on the external working of the Word (vs. the internal feelings/ emotions/ changed heart), Lutherans realize that everything about the church itself should also "preach" and proclaim this Word, this truth of Jesus for us and the surrounding history and events. Thus, Lutheran buildings have a distinct and intentional architecture that proclaims what the church is, who Jesus is, and what God is doing for us through his Word. The symbols, the beautiful art/ stained glass, the colors, the "uniforms" of the clergy and assistants--all of these are part of the confession of faith and designed to teach and reinforce our confession. I've been in Lutheranism for over 20 years, I consider myself an intellectual and very well versed in theology for a layman, and I'm still learning about new things and nuances in all of the art and symbolism contained in the art, music, architecture, etc. God be praised for his gift of the word, the church (which is the vessel of the word and sacraments) and all of the faithful, thoughtful theologians, artists, architects, etc. through the millennia who have confessed God's truths in many different ways!
Beauty is of God. You are missing out for sure
“You can’t help but see that it’s about Jesus Jesus Jesus.” 👍🏻🤣 I love this priest!!
He's a pastor, not a priest, but he IS great!
*pastor lol
Priests are successors of the apostles. This guy is not in the church and oreaches heresy
Koding Krusader Catholicism is the heresy. Just like any other works based religion.
I'm LCMS Lutheran and it okay to call a pastor a priest or even Father. He is still a spiritual father and we do have private confession too. My husband is a priest. So it is okay to call him that HAHA
Matt, I wanted to share with you that I came back to this series four times. I felt led to visit a LCMS church and found my church home there. I wanted to give to you and Pastor Will Weedon thanks for this series. The impactful conversations and genuine expressions of faith carefully laid out in your videos have helped me pursue the truths of Christ and his message. I have learned that Christianity is one tree with many branches. It is beautiful to see the diverse expressions of faith to our Lord and Savior. Blessings to you and your ministry! ✝🙏
I think this is a classic episode.
I had NO idea how Catholic Lutherans connected to the Missouri Synod were. I really needed this information. My son (grown) has become a member of one of these churches and I thought it was a regular Protestant church! Ha on me! Thank you for going to the trouble, as I have no way to get to a church, let alone my son's, to see what's going on.
You picked a great place to go! Pr. Weedon is an excellent representative of Lutheranism.
As a life long LCMS member, his enthusiasm and charisma is a little over the top, but what he says is correct and a great representative of LCMS.
I find that when the media interviews priest/pastors of any Christian denomination even catholic they always choose the dumbest people possible to make the church look bad
HWaH I agree. His joy in the Lord is a delight to see and hear. Coming from a non-denominational background, it was sensory overload the first few times we attended Divine Service at an LCMS church. Now I find it comforting and quite wonderful!
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I can't see how enthusiasm is anything but the correct response to the christian truths.
Why do you think that?
If you think he's being fake, I get it, but he seems genuine to me.
(I'm not a Lutheran myself by the way).
@@IamGrimalkin i dont feel he is fake. He seems very genuine. I appreciate that. I attend a traditional lcms church every sunday and its a rigid efficient style of service. You can set your watch to it. Got to love the Germans 😆. I've never met a pastor who is this over the top. Maybe a little of the south has rubbed off on him 😆. It's just struck me as odd. Like I said in my first statement, he certainly knows his stuff and he didnt say anything that was incorrect from our perspective. Seems like a good dude, too. Just a little different than what I'm used to. Were all brothers and sisters in Christ.
Ha! Life-long, and joyful Missouri Synod Lutheran here. What a perfectly appropriate day to release this video. I share Pr. Weedon’s enthusiasm about our historic Christian confession. Loved the interview.
I'm Catholic and watched your Protestant visits a Catholic Cathedral, then watched the second part/interview, then watched this - this is awesome! I can't wait to catch up on your videos. I hope more people see these. You do a great job and your curiosity is contagious!
I long to visit a Lutheran Missouri Synod Church one day. I’ll be in the middle of the church, saying, “Amen” and “Take yo time Pastor!” ‘cause I’m Baptist. ❤️❤️❤️ Lutherans!
Have you visited one yet?
Be prepared to get some looks...
I am a LCP lutheran pastor from the Philippines and I thank you for visiting our partner church. This is so informative
I am LCMS and know a couple of the members of the Hamel church...Will Weedon is BRILLIANT and funny!
This guy is wild! I love his non defensive confidence in what he’s doing. ❤️
Great video! Pastor Weedon is a treasure. I'm not sure how anyone could not be Lutheran after talking with him!
These videos are an absolute gem. I think you’re doing a great service by going out and producing these and in doing so breaking down barriers and giving understanding to different denominations.
Matt: "Will Weedon ... Will Weedon... Will Weedon..."
Me: disappointed when Wesley Crusher isn't a Lutheran pastor.
HAHAHA. Shut up Wesley.
Sheldon Cooper: “WHEEEATON!!”
Me: Not disappointed, as Wil Wheaton is a virulent anti-Christian. Maybe he could be ELCA...
Your thinking of the Wesaylan confession brah i think that's Methodism...
I was expecting Dr. Sheldon Cooper to stumble in.
Thank you for doing this video. I have just recently joined the Lutheran Church in my town (LCMS) and it has been such a rewarding and comforting experience in my life. I was drawn to the church not only because of the uplifting word of God spoken there, but also because of their beautiful music program. When we sing, I know God hears us. I am still learning about my new church and your video was so informative and helpful.
Very informative. Thanks for the video. I am a Missionary Baptist in Arkansas but I have visited the Lutheran Church in Batesville several times. I was always welcomed and treated with utmost respect. Their theology is very close to ours. So close that I have no doubt many of them are truly saved according to the Word of God. I say that because so many "so called" churches are not preaching the Truth. Those think they are saved but not according to the Word. To them God will say, "depart from Me I never knew you".
You definitely picked the right pastor to speak with. Pastor Weedon’s extensive knowledge combined with his engaging personality makeS for compelling conversation. Can’t wait for the second part.
You seem to get to the heart of things very easily. I’m looking forward to watching the other videos in this series as well, to see what others say about their own faith traditions.
Love that hat, too. Connected to Buffalo, NY?
I sat with a smile on my face during this whole video, because 5 years ago my wife and I started attending an LCMS church, and had the same kind of questions and had to wrestle with the same issues. I am really looking forward to the interview. Thanks for the work you do Matt.
I had no idea how “high church” Lutheranism is!?! It actually makes me want to check it out!!!
A lot of people think that because we had beef with Catholicism in the 16th century, we tried to change everything and take down every construct of the Catholic church. Martin Luther, and us modern Lutherans, actually love a lot about how traditional Catholic church masses are, and instead of chucking all that out the window, we get rid of what was problematic about any of it back then, and adapted it to our order of worship. There's nothing like a Lutheran's love for traditional hymns. It's always a highlight of the service, and something I look forward to all week long. And there's something really special about involving yourself in something that has been fairly unchanged for hundreds, if not thousands of years. I come from a very long line of Lutherans, and I often feel connected to them through our shared faith and thinking "I wonder if my great great great grandpa in Denmark used to sing this hymn." I definitely encourage you to check it out.
@@haley9976 I think it gets confused with Calvinism and Puritanism.
Jordan it's the only REAL Lutheran way. No watering down...no compromise...
Our Lutheran church isn't high church at all, though conservative in doctrine
@@haley9976 I've grown up at a Lutheran church that has had a more traditional service with the liturgy and those wonderful hymns, and a contemporary service with more contemporary music. I do feel connection with my Scandinavian heritage when I sing those hymns. I'm also Petersen with great great grandparents who migrated from Denmark, maybe we're fifth cousins or something lol!
I love this, he was open and passionate. He opened his doors and laid out his confession! His love for God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit shines through this Pastor.
"All 2000 years of Church happening at once." Great impression.
Thanks!
Yes, this. Beautiful words to describe one of those "gut feeling" types of things. I was nodding my head with your outside opinion as a very accurate description of what I experience every single time I enter the doors of my Lutheran church.
That's exactly what the liturgy is meant to be so I'm glad it came through that way. I'm a Lutheran and on any given Sunday we mifur sing a hymn from the 6th century, followed by one from the 16th century, and then an African American spritual from the 19th century, and then a hymn from the 13th century, and lastly a hymn written 15 years ago. Historic Christian worship takes the best things from each generation and adds it in without throwing out all of the old stuff. So it really is like having all 2000 years of christian worship.
@@ericr91 Yes, but there is nothing wrong with the contemporary hymns like Marty Haugen composes. A modern setting/ folk Mass can be very inspiring, too.
Thanks for doing this one, I think too many evangelical protestants are not exposed to what Lutheranism is. Will Wheedon is somewhat promentant in the LCMS.
I grew up Lutheran and haven't been to a Lutheran service since my family's church had to close when I was about 10. Seeing clips from the service took me WAY back and conjured memories I forgot long ago. Even the board with the bible passages listed looks exactly the same! Even though we were technically Evangelical Lutheran Church in America the similarities are huge. Love your channel!
This is a great Lutheran Pastor. His congregation is really blessed.
I thought Will did an awesome job, and I love talking Bible and theology with people like him.
If you want that sort of thing on a more regular basis, please check out my short, new daily podcast at thetmbh.com/podcast (or wherever you get your podcasts). Unsurprisingly, it's called the Ten Minute Bible Hour Podcast.
Rev. Weedon's all kinds of fun. He preached at our congregation's 100th anniversary in Nampa, Idaho in 2017. Just as energetic as he is here, and I got one of those laughs when I thanked him for pouring Christ down my throat (he was handling the chalice during Communion that day).
@John I'm not sure how this is supposed to relate to this video or to the comments above it. If you're accusing churches like this of being Pharasaical and not caring about the poor because of their ornate traditions, I would suggest you look up that particular denomination's world relief page and scroll down to the links to their disaster response, mercy medical teams, etc.
That parable is Jesus is the Good Samaritan. it points to his sacrifice of himself for sinners, who like the helpless man who fell among thieves, are left for dead so to speak by the world of sinners who will not and cannot help him. Only Jesus is the Good Samaritan who can salve our wounded bodies and sin-sick souls with the balm of his holy blood shed for sinners.
@John I was going to enter that you may have answered a dream I had. Then I heard: he did. Thank you.
@@Ndnative3431 It's also about loving your neighbor. Jesus was an example to us of how we should live. Pick up our own crosses. Help those who have fallen, those in need, those who are sick.
Matt - I’ve been hoping you’d visit a Lutheran Church. Thanks.
Will - Grace to you from a brother from the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA). Thanks so much for sharing so much of our shared theology with Matt.
Experiencing genuine Confessional Lutheranism can ruin you to everything else. It's hard to understand how something so seemingly boring and plain can get in your bones in a "I can't shake this" sort of way. Behind the plain, boring facade is an unswerving, deep, and firm commitment to Jesus and the Bible. I walked away from the LCMS for about 6 or 7 years and simply could not shake Lutheran theology.
I've heard Will Weedon on the radio many times, and on Lutheran Public Radio, but this is the first time I've seen him on video. Cool guy. Fervent believer.
Thank you for this video. My grandfather was a Lutheran pastor and missionary in New Guinea back in the 1950’s and this reminds me of him so much. Love God and love others, you are doing both, keep up the good and tasteful work.
Great Interview with will Weedon! Love the Missouri Synod's Lutheran symbolism all pointing to Jesus.
Jesus is the total focus in a Lutheran church and Mass. There may be images of the blessed Virgin Mary and Apostles as examples of Christian virtue and faithfulness to Christ. But the reason we bow to the altar, processional cross and elevation of the Host and Cup is because Jesus is fully among us. His very and Real Presence drops us to our knees in awe and reverence. "Lord we are not worthy to receive You but only say the word and I shall be healed".
Will Weedon is a Lutheran treasure. I can't be like him when I grow up.🤣
*I want to be like him...