An Outsider Talks With a Lutheran Theologian (What do Lutherans Believe?)
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2019
- What do Lutherans believe? I wanted to know, so I visited a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church (LCMS) where I met with Pastor Will Weedon who explained what Lutherans believe and how they're different from Calvinists and Roman Catholics.
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This is part one of the interview - there was just too much to drink in here. The second half is going to get into some very challenging stuff about Lutheranism and Catholicism, so I hope you'll come back for that.
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Just don’t make us wait eight days for the next one! 😂
@@revruesch However...8 days is a good resurrection/new creation number! So...it's probably worth waiting for!
Crucial Productions Ugggh...how can I argue with that! LOL
@@revruesch 😂😂😂
Enjoyed seeing Book of Concordia on your book stack.
As a lifelong LCMS member I want to thank you for finding a Pastor that so clearly stated what we believe. Nicely done.
I grew up with my grandfather as an LCMS pastor and found it disheartening how many people especially from the catholic church’s were against Protestants without actually researching each protestant branch.
Pastor Wheedon is doing it right. Because as someone who is not a Lutheran, I would 100% want to come to his church to hear him explain things. He’s engaging, he’s ready to laugh, he’s a good listener, and he _loves questions._
Please Lord fill the world with more pastors like him.
I’m converting to Lutheranism because I love how straight forward simple and pure it is.
Amen
I came from Mormonism! Grateful I found Lutheranism (AKA The Bible).
Thanks be to God! Welcome!
My husband and three children are going on three years of being Lutheran!
Rome sweet home
The guy who comes in at the 12 minute mark and awkwardly wave is the best! 😂😂😂
laughed so hard when I noticed hahahahah
Everyone say Hi to Pastor Gleason! He's awesome. :-D
I waved back. I'm polite like that.
@@CrucialProductions My dad went to seminary with Pastor Gleason back in the day, and has one or two pieces of his artwork. It's worth noting that Pastor Gleason does stained glass work, and he crafted the beautiful designs on the doors at the entrance to the sanctuary, which are shown in the first video and can be seen behind Matt Whitman in this video. Hi Pastor Gleason, from Pastor Domke's oldest daughter! :D
Hi Pastor Gleason!
If Jesus comes back between now and before you post the next instalment, I do hope he lets us watch the rest in heaven...
Lol, you win the comment section.
@Lincoln & Welland Regiment I think you replied to the wrong comment. I'm confused by the beginning of your comment. Yes, too many criminals have infiltrated the catholic church, because they feel safe hiding in the clergy. However the church does not promote this and believes those men are in grave sin. The bishops and cardinals who moved them around and tried to hide their actions are evil men too, however the true catholic church and believers in Christ are against these criminals and the criminals who allowed them to enter the church. Take a look at the good priests out there who don't get any media coverage, I know many of them and they are good people.
The Mark of the Beast is the sign of the cross, taking the right hand, touching it onto the forehead as the victim of the deception calls on the Three Unclean Spirits coming like frogs from the mouth of the Vatican.
@@MattWhitmanTMBH I don't think we'll care, at least not right away.
Just to clarify: Lutherans in no way dispute the development of terminology; how could we? But the point of the Church’s refining the language was always to confess more clearly and accurately “the faith once delivered to the saints.” Jude 3. The doctrine itself did NOT develop; what developed was the way the Church sought to confess it such a way as to cut out misunderstanding and false understanding. FWIW.
hey Pastor! thanks for this. Iv used it numerous times to as an intro to Lutheraism - Lex Lutheran on twitter... I tweet u couple of times!
DJTripleThreat78 Lol. Lol. Thanks
Rev. Weedon, just wanted to say thanks for sharing so much knowledge and with clear passion and love of Christ!
I wanted to ask if there is a sense of reclaiming the ancient church in the minds of the Reformers. There are things that I can find in both the Lutheran and Anglican perspectives that lean more towards the Eastern Church. In fact I believe that there was a relationship between the Lutheran theologians and Patriarch Joasaph in Constantinople. Is it correct to say that the Reformers sought to return to original Christianity and to cast off innovations made by the scholastic movement within the Roman church?
May He bless you and your ministry!
Love from a brother in Christ,
Rob
Simon Templar yes, particularly in the second generation Reformers. Read through Martin Chemnitz’ Two Natures in Christ and you will be astounded at his reliance upon the Eastern fathers (whom he’s reading in Greek). A friend of mine once described Lutheranism as an Eastern Christology wedded to a Western soteriology. :)
David Phillips ...I find it odd that you say the pope can be infallible, but also speak against Vatican II, since it is official Catholic practice now...
This needs to be a series. This pastor is a phenomenal speaker.
A series were he goes around talking to Lutheran pastors?
@@andrews9695 Where he interviews Pastor Will from time to time.
FYI, Pastor Weedon has a daily podcast called "The Word of the Lord Endures Forever" 😊
@@tbird1968 I should check that out. Thanks
The U in Calvin's TULIP is Unconditional Election its Total depravity, Unconditional election Limited atonement Irresistible grace and Perseverance of the saints
As an Orthodox Christian it’s surprising how much more similar the Missouri synod church is to ours than many modern Roman Catholics.
As a Roman Catholic, it is amazing to me how similar many confessional Lutherans are to more conservative Catholics.
Quite simply put: confessional lutheranism is linked a lot with western soteriology (and sacraments) and with eastern christology 😄
@@esayli-vainio6698 Eastern christology? How?
The Roman Catholic church was on a trajectory that early Lutherans rejected. Martin Luther even exchanged letters with the Orthodox and considered joining the Orthodox church until it became clear to him that the two theologies did not match.
The Roman Catholic church went on and had the Council of Trent and later Vatican II, but it is no accident that conservative, confessional Lutherans "appear" to fit somewhere between Traditional Catholics and the Orthodox because in many ways, they do.
One big irony is that modern Catholics love to vilify Luther for "creating Protestantism" while many Lutherans actually are sympathetic with the Orthodox church's position that it was the Roman/Western church that broke away from the East and not the other way around.
Any way you slice it, one of the biggest characteristics the three churches share is placing importance on correct theology and doctrinal boundaries. In this way, the Germans are just as stubborn as the Romans and the Greeks.
@@shellieperreault6262 it sounds like you're making a claim that orthodoxy is protestantism. It is true that they broke from the catholic church but the catholic church views the eastern churches as not in communion but sacraments made through the eastern churches are valid. That's the difference between the great schism and the protestantism reformation.
“The doctrine does not evolve”
I love it! One BIG reason why I’m happy to be a Lutheran.
And the reason I know I always will be. :)
Tell that to the ELCA.
@@ministryoftruth1451 amen as a Lutheran those people aren’t Lutheran they are like a mix with evangelical
@@joshnosek6078 I'd say they are a mix with Universalism.
@@ministryoftruth1451 could be that to. all im saying is the elca gives lutherans a bad look
I was baptized Presbyterian, confirmed Methodist, married ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America), but finally found the LCMS, and I am HOME. My faith has grown immeasurably thanks in part to the LCMS's diligence with scripture.
I took a slightly different path but also found home with LCMS.
rickandrews2112 one more stop to make....Catholicism
A righteous woman is worthy of praise! If mary isnt worthy of praise, who is?!?
My Lcms wife appreciates the practical similarities of viewing/adoring mary the way she wants her children to view/abore her.
Also she like to consider how jesus feels toward Mary and considers feeling the same toward her.
Finally , all generations will call me blessed quoted Mary the Blessed Mother. We may ask ourselves, "Am I apart of that generation or am I apart from that generation?
@Tom Jenkins worship requires a sacrifice... do u have evidence of a sacrifice I make to Mary? Maybe you have different definition of worship?
@Tom Jenkins where in scripture does it say we are only to offer prayer to God.?
As a lifelong lutheran I really appreciate you didn't leave us out and spoke to an orthodox lutheran branch as well. Looking forward to the next part.
Michael Schuller I am too! I was so afraid that he would speak with a heretical branch (like those that accept sin in the church). I love this video!
What is the orthodox Lutheran branch?
@@run4cmt any that aren't ELCA for the most part. So LCMS, WELS, ELS etc
@@redmikey24interesting i grew up in lCMS which was very conservative but i didn’t know their were even more orthodox churches than us. I was always taught we were the most conservative among the Lutheran church.
My jaw dropped when he said his statement on patristics! 😂 Gotta love a bold and fiery Lutheran 😂😮💨
I am a Catholic, but after listening to this video I think I might be Lutheran too. Zero objections. Great, great video.
@@alhilford2345 I am 67 years old and I have estimated that I have been to over 5000 Masses during my life. So I think I qualify as a Catholic, I have also read Luther's commentary on Galatians, and I have viewed several documentaries on Luther. I also studied some of his writings (more controversial) many years ago. Currently, I am witnessing a creeping crud of fanatical piety coming into the Catholic church which has convinced me that there is a very strong element in the Catholic church that does not know what the Gospel is. For that reason, I have increasingly listened to more and more Protestant teachers, and I have been more than pleasantly rewarded. Yes, I still am Catholic and I find nothing objectionable about Luther's basic view of things. My only objection to the current Lutheran church is that it lacks courage to stand against many of the things that are clearly evil in our culture. I am very tired of talking to my Catholic friends who always seem to resort to the argument: "We have the real presence and they don't." Wow, that is weak and pathetic, IMO. I prefer Peter's view of things in the Acts of the Apostles after he had the vision of the blanket descending from heaven full of all sort of creatures, etc. After this vision Peter declared he realized that all men who fear God are acceptable to Him. I agree with Peter.
@@ronaldkulas5748 but you must acknowledge that Luther's basic view of things entails a schism from the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church -- a rejection of apostolic succession that creates a new church which is in its nature at odds with Christ's church. This very schism leads souls away from salvation by offering a false gospel not in line with THE Church. Luther's theology is only similar to the Catholic theology because it's among the earliest to splinter off. Place Luther in the 21st century and there is no limit to the blasphemy he might believe in -- because it is his church, not Christ's.
I pray you don't allow the liars and sinners that have penetrated inside the Catholic Church be the reason you are driven out of it. Retain what is yours.
@@ronaldkulas5748 get hold of a good catholic apologetic. There s a reason why protestants kept splitting and splitting. They can all interpret as they seem fit, which results in numerous contradictory opinions. Bible isn't meant for personal interpretation! It's like giving a medical book to a random person and ask him to perform an operation. Its for reading and Learning but the ultimate interpretation is for the authority of the Church.
@@justynagorka3972 They can all interpret as they seem fit, which results in numerous contradictory opinions. - Isn't that exactly what the Church does? The Popes and the Churches personal opinions throughout history have consistently contradicted eachother. The Church is and has always been a corrupt institution.
@@dragondov I dont know.any contradiction. Sorry to disappoint you. We dont interpret as we please because we can err
We follow the magisterium.
I was raised Roman Catholic and am converting to Lutheranism. This video was very helpful to me in answering the question, "Just what do Lutherans believe?" Thank you and God bless you! 🙂
You’re a fool then
That’s wonderful! I’m a Lutheran too converted from Southern Baptist. I’m glad you and I can have fellowship together. For more research on our doctrines I suggest Dr Jordan B Cooper, he’s been incredibly helpful in my furthered understanding of our doctrine
Yes! I have enjoyed Dr. Cooper's channel immensely. He is wonderful!
God bless you! 🤗
@@benjaminhawthorne1969 God bless you too!
What made you decide to make the change?
I’ve felt like one of my kids...constantly checking CZcams to see if this video is up. Really looking forward to this and thankful for the gift that Pr. Weedon is to the LCMS.
I was the same way!
Same. "C'mon, Matt!"
Pastor Weedon’s new podcast is excellent!
I did the same thing every day
I would love to receive a sermon from Pastor Weedon. The way he articulates the word of God is truly amazing.
He does daily sermons on his podcast, "The Word of the Lord Endures Forever."
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace;iiii
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 It does. It's just not called "The Trinity". It is in the OLD and NEW Testaments!
My wife and I discovered historical/confessional Lutheranism after spending our entire lives at mainstream evangelical churches. Now we and our young family attend a LCC church in Canada. Watching this series of episodes reminded me of myself 3 years ago: discovering the mind-blowing beautiful simplicity of grace alone through faith alone in the work of Christ alone delivered to us through the Means of Grace. Brilliant.
Amen my brother in Christ. I’ve was born and raised LCMS but still get tears in my eyes when I even attempt to contemplate the deep and strong love God has for us in His undeserved Grace.
To all my LCMS brothers and sisters out there: who else had gotten a three-parter? Eh??
But really, all glory to God for the precious gospel being shared so well!
Lutherans: "Yeah, it's what we do. We drink, and we know things..."
My car broke down and I have been walking to church near my house for the last 3 weeks. I decided to check out the Lutheran church and it also happened to be Reformation Sunday (weeks ago). This video is an eye opener for many it seems and I have had a similar experience at the local church here. I am looking forward to attending again this Sunday! At the Lutheran church, there is a first, second and third reading (which could be an Old Testament bible verse reading, New Testament reading, and epistle reading... all of which are Christ focused. Just like all of the beautiful hymns that Bibically "bombard us with the word of Christ"). To me so far, the Lutheran church is like a beacon of light that's stands firm in history and relevant traditions that as so many protestants are quite frankly ignorant about. I am absolutely not Catholic... but I may be Lutheran! Thank you sooooooo much for this video. I am a subscriber to this channels and I was pleasantly surprised that this fantastic video was made. I am thankful to the Lord for this video and to the host and guest as well.
Go to a Catholic Church and attend Mass. Don't reject the Catholic Church until you understand the Church. Talk to a Catholic Priest and get to know the Catholic Church from the source and not what others say.
Also, those things you found in that Luthern service is because it originated from the Catholic Church typically. More than likely the readings you hear at the Luthern service are the exact same as the Catholic readings because of the Revised Common Lectionary. Vatican II implemented the formation of the RCL and in 1983 it was reviewed, adapted, and approved by various Protestant church authorities. Created because of the Catholic Church and then some Protestants approved it for their our. Also the Catholic Church is Church history 👍
Yes, the Lutherans kept the godly bits and spat out the ungodly bits. That's what the whole video was about.
@Denis Dominguez, you conveniently forget that Rome split with the reformers, excommunicating Luther and others for pointing out Rome's errors.
I've been a Christian for over 50 years & I would have been sooo lost without the pop-ups. Great video as usual Matt. Looking forward to the next session.
That feedback helps a lot. I want this stuff to be accessible, but also to push us to learn and understand new things. Glad that was helpful!
@@MattWhitmanTMBH same here, glad for all the pop-ups as an LCMS Lutheran myself for ~20 years. They really help provide the context necessary to understand some bits of the dialog. These 2 videos are the first of yours I've watched, really enjoying them and the discussions taking place. Really helps when individuals have the gift of speech which the 2 of you really have.
100% agreed!
Ditto. Very grateful for them.
I’m one of those Missouri Synod Lutherans, this is good stuff. Great set of videos here.
Ryan Lindblom MS won’t except me.
Happy Sabbath!
God's 4th Holy Seventh Day Sabbath commandment. Friday sundown to Saturday sundown.
Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 12:8,
John 14:15 If you love me keep my commandments.
Also excited for this! Pastor Weedon was so engaging. Not at all what I was expecting. I really had no idea what a Lutheran church would be like.
Feel free to find a wels or lcms to go to locally
I had the opportunity to visit St. Paul's and Pastor Weedon a few years back while on the way to Fly out of St. Louis from Springfield. Both reflect the very best of our Church body and it is wonderful to see them here. As an LCMS Lutheran, these are the very things we Hear and Confess each and every Sunday. Praise be to God!
🤯🤯now I have a hundred more questions! Wow loved this interview! I think my favorite part was when he explained Faith as a gift!
This guy is awesome, both enthusiasm for what he believes and clear headed explanation.
I hope one day to be half as good.
I am an athiest who is fascinated by religion, and I love your channel! keep it up ❤
Thanks!
Welcome! You're not a fellow believer but you're a fellow human and you're welcome because of it!
Hey! May I ask, where has your fascination brought you over these past two years?
@@krissmork videos about Greek and other mythology, where the Bible came from etc. I was watching a video about Genisis and how it came from Greek and mesopotamian beliefs. Really neat to watch. Many videos I've watched recently are from the "Mythvision" CZcams channel.
@@mayganphynix8267 Oh, boy. Sounds like you're listening to secular sources mainly then. Not to argue, but be mindful that these claims are based upon there being similar imagry in the Bible as in other mesopotamian religions - but this doesn't prove the one coming from the other. An easy way to open up the possibilities, is to recognize that the Bible was written by people trying to convey meaning to those of their times, and thus resorted to use imagery and language that was familiar to them.
If they believe in Ba'al, who was believed to be almighy, and soaring on the clouds of heaven, how would you as a prophet of Yahweh, the God of the Jews, convey that Yahweh is the Almighty God? By Yahweh riding on the clouds of heaven, for example.
John did the same in Revelation, where he used similar descriptions of God as the Greek were familiar of in connection to Zeus: "The One who was, and is, and is to come".
The assertion that Christianity or Judaism therefore originates from these religions, is a rashed one.
Well, that's coming from a Christian, so hah! But a good source if this interests you still is a professor by the name of Michael Heiser, who has his doctrate in the ancient mesopotamian religion and languages (I with 99% certainty didn't call that by the accurate name, but he studied something of the sort. Very cool insights from a complete Bible and ancient religion nerd.) He is on youtube and had a podcast "the naked Bible podcast". He died to cancer recently, which is tragic, but his work is still being published.
Anyways, thanks for the response 😁
So you're telling me there's yet another in this series coming? Can't wait.
Also, still appreciating that Book on Concord on the desk!
Well Matt, seems to me you've found your long lost twin in Pastor Will, and by that I mean that you both share a talent for engaging presentation and you are both impressively articulate in your religious insight. I say that as a Catholic, and while I acknowledge the differences in belief between us, I also appreciate hearing incisive inquiries about and knowledgeable expressions of the faith of other religious communities. Truth is that we are still a long way from the unity that Christ prayed for among his followers, but at least now we are listening to each other, and your "Ten Minute Bible Hour" episodes are instrumental in that effort. Good job!
Thank you both for this interesting video. I love the idea to see those different angles and different denominations.
As a Lutheran from Germany this topic is of course especially interesting for me.
Oh, we need more Pastors like Will Weedon here in Germany.
We desperately need a Reformation in the EKD (Evangelische Kirche Deutschland) over here. :-(
Keep on the good work, both of you.
Hey Bruder. Wir haben eine Kirche in Deutschland, die mit der LCMS in Kirchengemeinschaft ist! Die SELK. Ich selbst bin vor kurzem übergetreten, falls du also an einer konfessionell lutherischen Kirche interessiert bist, schau auf jeden Fall bei der SELK vorbei. Wir haben eigentlich überall in Deutschland Gemeinden.
Caught this video while it was still processing. Beginning to feel like a super fan.
Same here!! :-D
Me too! I've never seen that before
As an Evangelical Free pastor I am enjoying learning more about different faiths within Christianity. Thank you for giving me a better understanding of another church tradition that I come in contact with regularly.
High five Free Church friend!
There's still time to get back to your Lutheran roots, E-Free guys! 😊❤
I'm in the process of converting from Presbyterian to Lutheran...I CANT WAIT.....
Currently Presbyterian, but very intrigued about Lutheranism. Would you mind telling me what convinced you?
@@guzzn9714 Not OP but take a look at the Christology. Key differences there
That's it. I'm a Lutheran now.
Nice to have you! Let me know if you're ever in Taiwan. We'll find you a parish.
I came to the Lutheran church from the Baptist church because I was looking for more traditional, less contemporary style of worship. I'm still learning many Lutheran ways. This video is helpful.
Matt, As a seminarian at a Missouri--Synod Lutheran seminary, Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne Indiana, and I love your videos. I am super excited you found Pr. Weedon and I love your interview. Keep up the good work, brother. Peace in Christ, Zak
Thank you for this video, it was very powerful and helped me return to confessional Lutheranism
I can't believe how hyped I am about this, such a great video Matt!!!
So much stuff to learn. Thanks for displaying the meaning of key terms in boxes. Great idea.
Oh my goodness! I need more. It was just getting juicy! Can't wait for the next video.
Such good work! The questions, the answers ... all are engaging and drive the conversation to the really important things to discuss!
I love these church tour and interview videos. Great job and keep them coming!
So appreciative of Matt and Pastor Weedon in this conversation.
Can't wait for the rest of it!
I was sooo glad when you popped in at the end to say this was only part one! I absolutely wanted MORE by the end of this video. Thank you thank you, Matt!
I was raised and confirmed LCMS Lutheran and joined the Catholic church last Easter. I love videos like this; remembering my Lutheran roots reminds me to appreciate my protestant brothers and sisters in Christ and to pray for the unity of all Christians.
You’ll be back.
@@anthonygarcia3960 Or you'll come home :)
@@emilyroberts4150 Who knows? But if you want to know the truth you’ll be back.
@Party Peetz True that’s why I came back to the Catholic faith a couple weeks ago.
@@emilyroberts4150 I did come home lol best decision ever!
I love seeing you go through this process of visiting different churches and listening to what they believe! Keep searching for the truth 😊
Yesss, another part coming! Haha. Appreciate everything you guys are doing, and the way in which you discuss and dialogue is just an amazing display of brotherly love. We need more of this!!
This was a flippin’ awesome video. Looking forward to more with you and Pr. Weedon.
I stream KFUO to listen while working and have heard Pastor Weedon there-it is great to see his face! I really appreciate this series, thank you.
These videos are SUPER exciting! I remember how hard my own “Road to Wittenberg,” was, coming out of a conglomeration of Protestant traditions! Very glad to see you have the support of the entire LCMS as you ask these questions! Very exciting to watch!!! Thanks for sharing!
Yessss, I've been waiting for this video the moment the first video dropped.
Matt, I commend you for the boldness and honesty you bring to this work. Pr. Weedon has long been one of the most gifted communicators in the LCMS and he's at his best with an intelligent and critical interviewer. Thank you for introducing him to a larger audience!
I could listen to you two talk for hours honestly
Looking forward to part two of Lutheranism. I am a lifelong member of the LCMS. Great Video! Always enjoy listening to Pastor Weeden.
This was such a great interview! Thank you for doing this. Pastor Wesson is such an amazing witness to the Glory of God.
Finally posted this! We’ve been waiting impatiently!
Thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and make a series of wonderful videos exploring both the physical building of the church and Lutheran theology! I Just wanted to say I was so excited to hear Pr. Will Weedon mention The Lutheran Church Canada! I have been a member of it since my baptism as an infant --- and hope to attend seminary to become a pastor in this church body --- If it is God's will!
I really want to say that I am thankful for the dedication that the church has to preaching the central doctrine of justification: that by grace, through faith alone, broken sinners, are justified! and as we come to hear the word, and partake of the sacrament of holy communion we are forgiven our sins and strengthened in our faith! Hallelujah - Praise be to Christ
Praise be to Christ, indeed!
I grew up and was baptized in the Methodist church. But then I found the LCMS two years ago. Since then I haven’t looked back!
Wow! Will be watching 10 more times. That was packed full of info.
Excellent job Matt, thanks so much for your thorough, investigative approach. Looking forward to part two!!!
Wow! This is so good! I can't wait for the next part!!
This Lutheran pastor is incredible! Really interesting to listen to him.
Hey I am thankful that you were curious and honest with Missouri synod, I am also confessional lutheran and our church belong to co-operation with Missouri Synod. Even as confessional lutheran, when I hear you talking with pastor Weedon, I get pumped up too...and to me, this's weekly normal stuff...but to hear it outside of my views...it's so nice.
Great interview! It is so refreshing to see an interview with such integrity, honesty, and without loaded questions and set-ups. Wonderful interviewer and interviewee.
This is fantastic! Thanks for doing these. Your open attitude is a rarity and is essential for making these conversations happen.
"I'm a calvinist on like Mondays and Tuesday" oh my gosh I died hahahahah. Too relatable. Thanks for all that you do with these, absolutely love what you're doing on your channel!
Indeed! I've said for most of my Christian life that I'm "about half of a TULIP," but Wheedon articulated a congruent position with so much eloquence I'll have to co-opt his explanation.
Great to see a comment from Gospel Simplicity! I follow both!
This guy is great! Love the church setting...very well done!
Matt, a very stimulating discussion, thank you and Pastor Weedon
Matt, thank you my friend for these wonderful videos. You are a gift from God! Thank you so much!
Refound my Luthern roots. Really recently. ❤️🤙
This is great! 11 comments and 23 likes for a video that's still processing. Now THAT'S hype!
I'm so pumped for the next segment. Keep up the great work brother!!
Awesome interview. Can't wait for the second half!
This was very cool. It was listening to Paster Weedon and the others on Issues Etc. that moved me from Calvinism to Confessional Lutherism (though I’ve have yet to be confirmed due to illness and being house bound). I like the balance of law and gospel I hear at the Lutheran church services vs the law biased preaching I got for years at evangelical churches. Praise Jesus for Pastor Weedon.
Matt,
Another great video. being an Anglican Deacon I always assert myself to continue to learn as much as possible. These videos are definitely so very helpful and educational. I continue to tell all my church folks and friends about TMBH and the new TMBH podcasts!!! God bless you sir!!! You are doing a great thing here!!! I would thoroughly enjoy picking your brain for like a year! You have a ton of knowledge about a lot of different things.
I really appreciate hearing that, and thanks for jumping in on the new podcast too. I'm just finding that there's only so much room for videos each month, and it's tough to work straight through a book of the Bible the way I used to in video format oh, so I figured the podcast would let me do as much of that as I wanted to and if anybody wanted to come along they could.
Thank You for taking the time to learn. So often many people outside the LCMS make judgements on limited information.
Absolutely impressed with his knowledge of church history. He is very articulate and this is a great interview!
As a Missouri Synod Lutheran...I can't wait to see the rest of this talk. Nicely done.
Wonderful video and thank you for the presentation.
This series has been incredible. Absolutely fascinating
It was great to learn the point of view of a Lutheran. Tks, Matt, for sharing with us this experience.
I learned a lot
Raised LCMS. Attended LCMS school through 8th grade. Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it.
Shout out to the guy waving into the video 12:9.😂😂
Terrific interview, Matt. I really appreciate your honest questions and not taking all of the form answers of your own tradition at face value. Lot's to be gained in exploring the various traditions of the big-c Church.
Wonderful interview. Pastor Weedon is such a knowledgeable and faithful man! Would love to see you sit down with an ELCA pastor to see the similarities and differences.
As an ancestral German I grew up in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. Their doctrine is sound. In my view they make a little much of certain tradition and ritual but I'm thankful to have had a sound Christ honoring faith foundation as a child. That is perhaps something getting harder to find in 2020 with many heresies.
This is my favorite interview so far.
This is the video I've been waiting for!!!!!
WOW, what an amazing interview! I went to seminary and I couldn't have told you why we read the church fathers. Well I can now. I'd have some other questions for MO Synod Lutherans of course, but I found Pastor Weedon (he looks so different from when he was on Star Trek TNG) amazing! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I see what you did there... :-D The main difference is that no one yelled, "Shut up, Wesley!"
Lutheran pastors have epic facial hair.
Thank you for this second part of the series. Will is a true gift from God. Thanks and God's peace be with you
Can’t wait for the rest!!! Awesome job!!!
This was such a beautiful exchange of ideas and lovely interview! So cleansing, thank you VERY MUCH!!! I’m in the process of examining whether I belong in the Lutheran church, after a lifetime of devout Catholicism. Love to all of you out there, stay well stay strong and in Christ 💗
Oh interesting sister in Christ! How comes you think like that? If you need any more information, I can maybe help on what Lutheranism is and what we teach. (Greetings from a confessional Lutheran from Germany)
I love it!! The cliffhanger... "Lutherans are the continuation of western catholicism, after the cleansing of the Church by the Gospel in the 1500s." Way to keep me hanging for the next video... and for what the comments section makes of this statement.
For Lutherans it is very important to stress a distinction between Catholic and catholic (Capital C vs. small c). The small c indicates the meaning "universal" as it applied to the original texts of the Nicene Creed, or as in the original "universal church". It is simply using the same words as existed as it did in the beginning of Christianity. It doesn't have anything to do regarding the Roman Catholic Church.
It's a really silly claim. I mean, like so ludicrous it's almost hard to know where to start in pulling it apart. The idea that a church that ditches apostolic tradition, ditches most of the Sacraments, ditches multiple books of the Bible, makes non-Biblical (in fact counter-Biblical) claims regarding the means of Salvation, and whose fruit included a massive dissolving of a major portion of the Church into countless little sects of massively varying beliefs and interpretations of Scripture (Protestantism), is the "continuation of western catholicism" is simply ridiculous. I'm sure this pastor means well, but he's put his life's work into a lie and I can't help but feel sorry for him.
@@peterheckert3688 not just my opinion, it's the teaching of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church that Christ founded on Earth that I'm advocating for. It's not like these disagreements don't matter. The salvation of souls is at stake. The errors of Protestantism have destroyed Christendom in the West and even infiltrated the Catholic Church to the point that if we are not now in the Great Apostasy, it is a terrible type that prefigures the Apostasy to come.
Stop the journey talk- GOD'S BREATHED WORDS speak of Spiritual Birth and growing into MATURITY while being fully equiped for the works God created for His Children to work- having been reborn of the heavenly Adam, which must happen if the Body of Christ is to become fully unified, see Ephesians 4. EVERYTHING has to be ignored and called JOURNEY nonsense, how about using the venacular from GOD'S BREATHED WORDS CALLED THE BIBLE in plain language.
PERSEVERANCE is not called a gift. One is sealed by the Spirit when "having believed" Did anyone catch the Calvinist saying do you believe everyone will be saved? after it was said that Jesus died for everyone- one extreme to the other there- GOD'S BREATHED WORDS CALLED THE BIBLE use words like: Obey and Disobey and 1 Timothy 4:10 says "...that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe." ESPECIALLY IS THE OPERATIVE WORD. It lines up exactly with the word OBEY concerning the Gospel, why don't Calvinists believe this verse, or that the gospel can be obeyed or disobeyed? This verse is the same in Greek and if, as Calvinists teach, one does not have the ABILITY TO CHOOSE TO believe any message from God, i.e. the gospel for salvation, unless God FIRST REGENERATES THEM, how can one disobey God? That would be impossible! Calvinism's 9, not 5, points are false and a refutation of Calvinism begins with 1)refutting - their DEFINITION OF SOVEREIGN, then 2) MITICULOUS DETERMINISM 3) A SECRET WILL OF GOD 4-8) 5 POINTS called TULIP 9) A FALSE GRACE. Calvinism is easily, CONSTANTLY, refutted from GENESIS TO REVELATION. see Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5, 32:35, where God Almighty Himself says that the Jews did something that 1) He DID NOT COMMAND 2) that NEVER ENTERED HIS MIND! This refutes THEIR DEFINITION OF SOVEREIGN and MITICULOUS DETERMINISM, only a single example.
Matt as a student of theology and Christian learning I am blown away by your forthright and loving approach to bringing a better understanding to us. This can only bring us all closer. God Bless you on your journey and may Christ enlighten us all.
This is extremely high quality and informative work. Thank you
I literally clicked on the video maybe 8 times before it was actually uploaded lol...i Suspect this one is going to get a massive amount of views. 🙏🏽👏🏽👍🏽
It's always great when people show up for these things.
@@MattWhitmanTMBH I met Pastor Weedon in June for the Issues etc Conference up in Chicago. You and your team would be blown away watching all these wonderful christians worshipping as Pr. Weedon led us. Words do no justice to those type of experiences. Rev 4:8-11
My mom was a member of the Missouri synod. I have a special place in my heart for them
Brilliant discussion, and, informative and entertaining. Thanks, brothers!
Absolute brilliant discussion covered in grace and love.
Nooooo. I feel cut off. I want more. Give more.
Tx for your time Will and Matt