Can You Go Fast on Air Suspension? [4k]
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- There's a definitely stereotype in the modified scene that cars on air suspension are typically all show, no go. And with hordes of showcars aired out flat on the floor, there's some truth behind that belief. But can cars on air suspension actually be serious, competitive machines? Cody Miles thinks so.
Special thanks to Cody for having us out and spending his whole day filming with us, and special thanks to our honorary intern Devin Herndon for coming up with the idea for the video.
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Wow. I'm still so amazed about American car laws. Here in Germany you would NEVER get this thing registered for normal roads.
espro Freedom 🇺🇸
espro to be honest I don't think it's to bad. Yes TÜV is a bitch but they keep lots of crap that is legal in the US off the road. I really don't want a wheel of some crazy stance car in my windscreen on the autobahn
This seems to be in California. We have the strictest car laws in the whole country. You basically can't modify anything on your vehicle, but the enforcement is somewhat lax
Cal3000 how? Everyone I know that lives in California can't get any mods on without them being emissions tested and approved! You can't even fart without it being emissions tested!!! And that's why I live in Florida lol
There are ways to get things CARB approved. If someone is cert to do the testing that the mods don't affect the emissions to badly then they can issue you a sticker for it. Basically, don't de-cat the car and you will be fine.
one of the most badass subarus I have seen
the title ha an easy question, its yes i mean the lincon mark 8 had air suspention and was the new edge svt cobra before the svt cobra mustang generation was a thing
After hearing that the Subaru was street-legal, the intro made a whole lot more sense...
i always get jelly when i see that everything can be street legal in USA, we aren't even allowed to change steering wheels..
Alex Strömberg
Can't even change... A steering wheel?
Son, you need help.
well, we can if the other one also has airbag, and if the car doesn't have a airbag it can be changed.
Alex Strömberg, It would never be "street legal" here in Australia either
Alex Strömberg depends on the state but in Florida as long as it has four lights, blinkers, and mirrors its street legal. It's such a gray area lol.
0:45 sounds like he’s about to spit a fire ass verse with the background music lol
Lmaoo
I like this guy. He actually puts his modifications to a good use and air suspension definitelly makes sense for a fast car that is also daily driven. I also really like the colors.
Snail With a Shotgun I really don’t think anyone is daily driving this car
PeRX Didn't he say he drives it daily? Or at least often on the road?
He started out driving it daily and wanted to continue to have the ability to drive it daily with the mods. However, he said later in the video he now dailies a 350z.
the point being, his race car is street legal, yes not a daily but still registered street legal, that in itself is best of 2 worlds as he can drive his race car on the street if he wants like he did in the canyon drive.
Whats his youtube if he has one
Great story! Thanks for making this interview happen 👌
Dudes , I swear the production value is high.
Salman Alshamrani I just think that the production is done by a good team ... Not a high production value video . :)
Yea i don't think they have such high budget for videos but the team is really talented.
Crazy what a 4k camera, drone, gimbal and a little colour correction can do.
A lot of people don't know that, but even with, this production quality as far as sound goes on top of it is ridiculously high.
A good 4k camera and a few lenses a gimbal or stabilizer you can make videos like this oh and a computer with a decent editing software but sound like alot but your just buying that stuff once I'm pretty sure they have made there money back on gear a long time ago and if you get a CZcams channel going you can upgrade as you go
Hope you guys have been enjoying the video! It was such a blast getting to get out and film with Cody. Would you guys be interested in more detailed looks at specific Time Attack cars like what we did with Cody, and the Subaru couple Markos and Sally?
Edit: okay, we'll do it lol
I would personally love to see the crazy builds people have come up with for time attack.
Definitely, time attack is what brought me to this channel
That would be sick👌
Sally is my real life waifu
Gears and Gasoline short answer: *YES*
How you guys have only 184k blows my mind 😂 deserve way more with these videos
I was shocked to see them only have 30k before hahaha damn their content is legit..
glenn maquiran It’s so true, video quality is insane
It’ll jump up soon! I wonder how long they’ve been doing it but their quality is 👌
It's mind blowing they legit have some of the best car content on CZcams if not the best
Atleast the subs are loyal
I always watch your videos on the TV to get all of that 4k goodness 😊
me to, i have option to watch it on 4k monitor, but on 65' TV is even better!
yahir rivera1890 you dont need very fast internet for youtube 4k, 30-40 mbits is mostly enough.
i just use my iMac
ummm 4k is only good up close..
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love this channel, highest quality car videos in a long time!
So bags are _tunable!_ My eyes are wide open after hearing that. That's badass.
You guys better not F***ing stop making videos I’m in love with this channel every Saturday I wake up on time just to watch the videos . I wish the channel would make more video more often. This channel is so underrated . I learn a lot from this channel every time . PLEASE DONT STOP MAKING VIDEOS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET AWAY FROM ALL TGE BULLSHIT AROUND ME . DONT MIND MY CHANNEL NAME ITS FOR MY GAMING CHANNEL IM TRYING TO MAKE . I really love you guys no homo . Keep up what you guys are doing
Trolling at It’s worst we put out one a week because we try to heap some good lovin on each video. Glad you enjoy them, we don't plan on stopping soon
This is the video that literally sold me on air suspension. About a month later I did the install with a 3P system on my 408Whp mk7.5 GTI. Still fine tuning and figuring things out but I’m loving it over my BC racing coilovers.
Dude the quality and originality of this video is mind blowing...new subscriber earned
Next video: "Why do car guys wear fullcaps with sun visors on back?" Do they imagine it as a spoiler?
Rear downforce bro
They're probably too high from knowing that they own such awesome cars.
The backwards cap helps them keep their feet on the ground, and they need all the traction they can get otherwise they'll float away just like that GTA San Andreas cheat code
Lmao
Also, I know I said the same thing as y'all but...
I wear a hat because my hair looks like shit or to keep my hair groomed and to show support to my favorite teams
@@createusername6421 i wear a cap cuz mx5. Yes, cabrio
gotta walk fast somehow
Your footage is always buttery smooth. Each shot well thought out. Amazing cinematography
Honorary intern 🙏🏾
Devin Herndon my g you need more followers
I love Bags so much. They are super comfortable, they handle extremely well, and when aired out, looks extremely well. I plan to put air on my ‘01 Mustang GT.
Damn. That was a great video.
I feel you with the engines, i am on my third (and best), and it was my fault they blew. You learn better and do better.
Hi maxxjett I watch your vids :)
supra thanks man! 👍
maxxjett films where did u get ur suspension from again?
Dustin Kucera my coils are from stance, 8k front 6k rear. They have been on the car for about seven years
who's got the money to blow engines..
This channel is a prime example of quality over quantity. Keep up the great work.
Fascinating ! I've been seriously contemplating something like this for a future build, yet, hardly any info on from a real world track use experience. Thank you for making such a well produced and informative video. Bravo to everyone involved in this production on every level.
I think air suspension gets a bad rap, and I can see it really taking off once the technology gets a bit better. In the mountain bike scene air has taken over most bikes compared to a traditional spring set up. The ability to just add or remove pressure takes no time, and achieves the same thing as changing out a spring. Using volume spacers you can change the way it behaves, having it soft at the top and very stiff near bottom out. Having ridden both on the bike side a spring soaks up soft bumps much better, but air gave much better support, which is perfect for exiting a corner on track. I could see this becoming popular at the track as changing set up becomes easy and the extra support and dampening of air I could see as a benefit.
Fuck, that Subie looks AMAZING. And it performs decently, what a machine. Impossible for me to say a bad thing of a car that has the looks and has the performance, and proves it on the track. The daily looks dope as well, and the video, holy shit. The quality is simply insane. One of the best car channels on youtube, best combination of cars, knowledge and interesting info, astonishing visuals and interesting people.
I’ve been in need of this info, perfect timing guys.
straight outta NFS
loved the car :D
I thought i was watching a video game cutscene, it looks so good! now i can show this video to people that hate on bags lol
Why people hate bags ???
@@goalazo93 they still don't perform as well as coilivers and they are heavier.
Holy shit I think I saw you guys filming this dude when I was carving one day... I can’t believe I didn’t recognize y’all that Subaru was FAST and loud!!! A little intimidating in my civic si haha.
Shoulda worn brown pants!
Amazing truly i thought that the same thing about airlift suspension that it was just for people who like to look agressive when stanced. But also found out recently that nascar drivers back in the day also raced on airlift suspensions for racing. Keep up the vids enjoy them very much and its verry informative, much love
I've said it once and ill say it again, every video you guys make is a masterpiece , each scene has its place, everything flows beautifully... the little things in these videos just make them stand out from any other automotive channel. i wish you the best of luck! I truly believe you will be the channel that makes it to the top :)
I allways wondered about bags for sports. Everyone dissed the idea. Saying the car would be sluggish that it wont handle good that it will lean too much to one side. But in reality I knew it could work.
Am I the only one who thinks that the Hawkeye generation is the best looking?
Socrate for me the best gens are :hawkeye and blobeye
2nd are you from greece?
Oxi.. 😉
Bratsoni pote den xereis
HawkEye and BugEye for me.
Blob eye is the best tbh.
This is the only car channel with no hate that i could find and I love it
I love the versatility of air suspension, unfortunately in many countries it's not allowed.
But i do honestly believe that if you're setup is right, you have the best of both worlds.
wtfdididolastnight why’s it not allowed
I live in Belgium, not allowed here only coilovers with matching papers.
But for instance in Germany it's allowed if it's TUV-approved.
If you get caught by the cops here you get a big ass fine and you need to go to an inspection centre again with original suspension or coilovers with matching papers.
Also illegal in Australia unless it’s ‘engineer approved’ with a certificate. The certificate will cost you more than the bags themself
Mick Arthur become an engineer and certify your own car :D
what about the UK? seems to be legal there right?
I love the Impreza,the car that basically turned me into a petrolhead,as I see these videos and look my savings I get more and more motivated to get one, great work on the car and great video on this channel,keep it up!
Can’t beat linear springs on a 3 way coilovers with external reservoir. And probably same price. If you’re serious about time it’s the only way to go.
haha what kind of race car do you have? XD your mom's Fiat Multipla on 3 way coilovers?
skullrdw e46 m3. I’ll be at thunder end of April, come through to see “my moms fiat”
czcams.com/video/plW6YgQuKeg/video.html
skullrdw Too soon jr
aaaand skullrdw.exe has stopped working
I'm glad I am able to inspire others to get bags sharing my experience on youtube as well as cody and killing the stereotypes on bags! I like what cody is doing with tracking the car and sharing his experience!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Always love these videos. Top quality 👌🏾
Will definitely look at bags now.
One of the sickest STI out there. I love it when a car is made beautiful, keeps her shiny, and races the crap out of it. Yeah
such an amazing car
true, just right, not over the top or anything; perfectly fine tuned
You really had to edit this...🤣
This was the best and most succinct explanation I have ever heard / seen re. this set-up. Cody Miles is very articulate. Great video, as always. I've said it before, and I really mean it: you guys get better and better. Amazing vid.
"Its a ton of work, but it's something I never stop thinking about."
Relatable asf
Videography is my dream job, and most of these clips are just amazing to me.
I wish there was a comparison with a car with coil overs and time attack them with the same driver
There is: www.airliftperformance.com/blog/airvscoilover/
Cody W. I more so meant a 3rd party that did it
elric116 Well they cant fake the results that much. So if you are looking air vs coils and dont race professionally.. I would say air win always.
2 things...
1. I just found your channel and so far your stuff is awesome.
2. I also have a 2007 Subi, mine is a WRX, and a Z. I actually just bought the 04 350z about a month ago and im so excited to get into it. And now I'm seriously looking into air suspension for the z.
Keep up the good work, you guys are killin it
I don't mind a good high quality air suspension. However, they cost an arm and leg and it's a lot of maintenance from what I heard.
costs to be on top.
Ya, the cost is high and bags need regular replacement.
other than a proper installation and draining the water from the tank monthly, not really.
MsSomeonenew are we in the 1900s?
Air suspension takes very little maintenance. You get what you pay for!
I just ordered bags and never came across this G&G video until now. Makes me even more at ease. can't wait till my bags arrive and I can get them installed on the car!
your production god daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!
An increase of 50k subs in just 3 months is simply amazing. Keep up the great vids guys.
But how are bags in canada with -40° temperatures
Keggerx works in Norway with -30 temperatures. Just don't slam it before you park it, lines may freeze up.
I think some Lexus suvs had bags so it shouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't do it personally though cause Lexus probably had shitty Canadian whether in mind.
Airlift claims it to be tested to around -30 Fahrenheit I was in NY recently and it was -10 with the windchill and i accidently aired out over night and still didnt have any issues on my 16' mustang gt.
Works with my S4
Add air brake anti-freeze to your air lines and you will be good to go. We are located in Vermont and haven't had any issues!
Such a nice bit of kit, he's done well with his Subie :)
great informational video
Gosh. Cars are a super expensive hobby. I'm happy for this guy and I love both of his cars. My only concern is why doesn't this channel have over one million subscribers?! A phenomenal channel this is.
The thought of bags instead of coilovers for cornering and pushing limits scares me, maybe im just old school 😕
You most definitely are. My car isn’t bagged yet, but I do have at least 2k miles of experience on bags and they handle just as good as coils
@@PeRRXX what are bags? I'm new at this car stuff and I hope to be car guy
J.Caine ✓ bags, also known as air suspension, is essentially a coil over, but instead of a spring, they use a “bag” that holds air and you raise and lower your car with pressurized air. And to hold that air you’ll have an air tank and an air compressor. I’d say google it to get a much better definition. Just google “what is air suspension.”
@@PeRRXX thank you so much man.
@@PeRRXX what I want to know is how can you have a high enough relative spring rate when you let air out of the system to lower the car. Seems counterintuitive to me. Like I would think that in order for you to get a high enough spring rate out of the bags that they would have to be at or near stock height with the proper amount of air to create a spring rate high enough for performance. Also does the airbag create a linear spring rate, progressive spring rate? I would actually think that the resistance of the bag would create an almost exponential increase in spring rate on every bump and road imperfection.
I love all of these videos that have someone talk about their cars and what they have done in their career
can you make a video of Can You Drift on Air Suspension? plsss do it i need it
FormerNine 11079 I second thT
u can drift on anything lol its up to you if u want to experiment with it or not, its a few cars out there drifting on bags it can be done, the reason alot of ppl dont do it is cuz of the cost an if u get into a lil accident on the course or someone taps your wheels an it goes off alignment a lil bit scraping the bag youll most likely need to replace a bag or height sensor an most likely you wont have an extra bag or height sensor at the track an no one at the track will have one if u dont have any of those ur car is done but a coilover will be fine cuz its juss a strut with a spring not all tht other lil stuff tht can break or pop its juss more expensive an more things worry bout, most drifters like to keep it simple an dont want to deal with tht point being its juss not practical for drifting
@@lonelyboysole im thinking about going air cups for this reason
i really dont understand how this channel only has 185k.. such amazing content
wait... so he feels unsafe with going 166mph without a rollcage... here i am in germany running the autobahn every second weekend at over 170mph in my 2014 Audi S6 (unlimited by a friend ofc)... *chuckles* i'm in danger
What's it's top speed? And what did you use to unlock the top, and did it improve acceleration and mileage?
Well, if you crashed it would be bad news. IF you crashed.
A cage can help a 50mph roll over or crash , plus some tracks in America requires them for over a certain track time or speed
I was specifically looking for an answer to the question of “can an air suspension hit the corners hard?” and this video answered that beautifully.
The best channel
In the world!
This honestly answered all my questions for air suspension... I was contemplating installing it on my 2002 Merc CLK430 coupe (my daily driver) so I could have it low when I want, but when visiting family, I can raise it to stock height (they're the types that instantly think any old car that's modified is "ghetto"). But overall, I didn't want to sacrifice cornering capabilities.
Great vid. Answers a lot of questions that I'm sure many of us had in mind.
zero dislikes lol proud to be part of first 50 views
Theeditman Racing Official now there’s 3 and it hasn’t even been an hour
A marketing video that is enjoyable to watch and gauges the interest of the target audience. Very very well done!
What camera do u use for theese videos?
That car is gorgeous. I never realized how much I liked 4k until I watched this video. Beautiful car!
HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU MAKE THIS SUBI CALI STREET LEGAL? WE ALL WANT TO KNOW !
It was probably registered and insured before all the mods, and illegally smogged
Don__219 you still have to smog it every two years or annually I don’t remember haven’t lived in Cali for a while.
Ya it’s all smoke and mirrors there’s no way that car is street legal that’s a bunch of BS.
@@Barrettcoronalight ya every 2 years but he probably knows someone who can just to the paperwork and say it passed
Don__219 you mean Jose? Ya I use to have guy lol. But before then I use to swap my b series out for my d16 just to pass. I even remember my buddy borrowing it to do the same. Honda engines if you don’t know.
You guys make such beautiful videos!!!
Dat subie is lit
The only trade off I see is weight for racing applications. For some fun time on track or daily drive, it shouldn't change anything.
Btw amazing shots and quality, keep it up!
yes but no... moving on
HELL YES!! I am differently getting Air Lift performance!! Best video I have ever seen on AIR RIDE!!
4k op
He seems like a cool and honest guy.
I wonder how much is the insurance premium for these kind of street legal racecars.. it must be stupidly expensive :")
theagam97 same as stock if you don’t say anything 😉😂
It’ll be the same as a stock car
Spencer Scrapes but then if there is a total wreck, they will not be eligible to pay you anything since you dont disclose any mods of the car 🤔🤔
I have an 05’ Mitsubishi Evo and the fucking insurance is a pain in the ass
When you go to track days there are companies that offer insurance I think some places it goes by what ever you write down the value of your car is they cover that percent with a deposit
I really enjoyed the videos from about a year ago. The guy is one of the only humble, contained individuals doing these car review videos. I think the subi is the product of someone with more cash than direction, but still a great presentation of his dope ass build!! Dude i wish I had a car like thi, but I also would want a dedicated track car before putting that much cash into anything street able! 😅
I like SUBARUS, I like hot boi stance, I like the video😅
You guys rock the video and sound quality. I'd like to say your quality is ready for the big screen. Keep up the flawless work guys.
Nice subie
Subie squad where you at?
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every once in a while I come back to watch this video for inspiration lol - a bagged brz owner
I might be a little crazy but I think I will buy a set of air suspension to upper my car in winter and lower it in summer :')
Renaud Dargis That's not how it's meant to work though. Bags aren't really meant to be driven while half inflated, mainly for alignment purposes. It's usually up for driving, down while parked. If you want it up in the winter, down in the summer, you're better off with coilovers for the summer, then stock suspension for the winter.
Shona As someone who lives in Canada, I was thinking about bags for my wrx for this exact reason.. If I don't care about my aligment during winter months could I do this? Ground clearance is important when it's a weekly occurance to be driving through 6+ inches of snow before the plows come by.
EliteSlayer542 When I'm referring to alignment it's your ride height alignment. You set your ride height where it's fully inflated and then set your alignment to that. Whenever you lower your car, the alignment goes off, mostly with camber and it allows wheels to tuck up in to the wells. I live in Ireland, where the roads are shit all year round, I have bags for my Mk2 Golf and the ride height and alignment is set for when the bags are fully deflated. However, it's a not stupid low and sitting on the ground, it's a happy medium so that I can drive around fully deflated without needing my compressor on at all times and when I encounter a speed bump or bad road, I can use the bags to full potential and go full monster truck mode and raise the car by 5" to get over bumps. You could do this to your car also, it would help greatly in the winter months, but be aware that it comes with trade offs and your car will never be able to be fully stanced out, sitting on the ground unless you have another set of bags, and you may also have to set your alignment as driving them around fully inflated full time would probably leave you with positive camber, which obviously isn't great for tire wear lol.
Shona Thanks for the detailed answer dude, so from my understanding, if I want it low in the summer, (not slammed by any means, I live Montreal and you need pothole clearance lol) then I should align it when fully deflated and only use my bags for the winter. I want to permanently jack it up by at least 2 inches over stock, but how bad would the tire wear be on my winter set at that height?
EliteSlayer542 I'm really not sure to be honest it all depends on your setup so I couldn't possibly tell you off the top of my head, I'm only really familiar with what worked for me. I should probably also mention that my setup couldn't be bought, it had to be custom made to suit my requirements. I used Airlift Crafter pack and built my airlift myself, and also made custom coil springs that act as bump stops to cause my bags from getting any wear while driving around fully deflated, (like I mentioned before, it isn't ideal to have bags fully or half deflated, you want a minimum of 0.3 Bar pressure in your bags.) It won't be cheap, bags never are, even the cheaper Crafter packs cost north of $2k, but they are worth it. I'd recommend checking out the Airlift Performance website, they have introductions and FAQs full of every bit of information you could possibly want.
This is such a well-produced channel that deserves way more than 200k subscribers. Way to go y'all
Could this be dey wey?
Edward Agora Feenman why. Stop
I found the 12 year old guys
Gentlemen, we couldn't just let such a disliked and despised meme fade away so quickly could we? 8ts already faded so badly, with just a little help it might stay around to annoy people indefinitely.
Edward Agora Feenman this comment should be deleted
danny graafland or pinned, either way.
Awesome content! Still coming back in 2021 just to watch it all over again! 😍🙌🏼
The way I see it, if it's on bags, it's not a race car
TheZondaS this is clearly a race car. If you built it to race, it’s a race car.
the way I see it, you are pretty dumb
It’s not a race car, it’s just holds a couple time attack championships.... this has to be the dumbest comment yet
😂
+Cody Miles . dude.... I was never really a fan of the hawkeye, but holy shit yours looks soooooo good ;)
After this channel shine into my eyes my moms Supra was a real legend
This has opened my eyes for air suspension, not something for stance, nice work!
Nice haha love “I’ve gone through a couple engines” I had an 04 STI and went through a couple myself lol a lot of headache and tuning to get up to 600 hp
Whoever filmed this needs to make a movie
Its so good that it can still be street legal. Here in the worse country (Singapore) to own car the enforcement unit for catching people with modification is just crazy. You drive a tuner car and they are always on the look out for you. Not to mention cars here in the first place is already crazy expensive, a used hawkeye subie is cheapest at USD 44,000
Literally cant like this video enough, cant wait to get my garage started.
I love the 4k videos i love every video GEARS AND GASOLINE make
Awesome car! Air is comfier than springs too. I love it🤙
To be honest, you look like you have 10m subscribers and i mean...you totally deserve that.. your cinematography is insane. Love it!
This intrigues me for my next track car just to make getting the trailer to the track and when I need or want to take it to work
I’ve seen this car a lot, but seeing it through whatever camera you’re using is like holy shitttttttt
this did a great job on educating people on air systems, pretty cool stuff. Also those FF4's look so good on his 350Z, I am so ready to pull the trigger on some
Finally somebody answered the question I had in a long time and with a video. Awesome video guys. Thanks
This video was so well made any frame could be wallpaper worthy.
I loved every shot of that Subbie. Excellent work!
GG, do a getting to know with Evan shanks!