The Rinaldi Trento: Does it Meet my AXEpectations?

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • This is a well made felling axe with curved handle that Baryonyx sent to me for testing and review. It showed some impressive power in the wood chopping tests, although there was one problem, as you'll see in the video.
    Keep in mind that the delivery time may be quite long, depending on how many orders they have to catch up with.
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Komentáře • 745

  • @johnisaiah985
    @johnisaiah985 Před 4 lety +733

    Best thumbnail I've seen all year

    • @Akario3
      @Akario3 Před 4 lety +43

      HERE'S SKALLY!

    • @lobotomisedsalamander4158
      @lobotomisedsalamander4158 Před 4 lety +12

      You mean best thing that happened all year.

    • @johnisaiah985
      @johnisaiah985 Před 4 lety +3

      @@lobotomisedsalamander4158yea..

    • @Fuzz82
      @Fuzz82 Před 4 lety +1

      Best thumbnail I have ever seen!

    • @eightywight
      @eightywight Před 4 lety +4

      His wife looks really pudgy in the picture, Skallagrim needs to tell her to diet.

  • @kvalvag5934
    @kvalvag5934 Před 4 lety +730

    Person: So what do you do for a living?
    Skall: I'm a viking

    • @TheLiamis
      @TheLiamis Před 4 lety +50

      Poor neighbour's. "The crazy Dane is viking again"

    • @peeeter4337
      @peeeter4337 Před 4 lety +26

      I'm testing weapons... on my loud neighbours!

    • @kaliumnitraat
      @kaliumnitraat Před 4 lety +5

      I want to like but its 69

    • @velazquezarmouries
      @velazquezarmouries Před 4 lety +11

      He is a viking gear councilor for people who haven't went A' viking for the first time

    • @howdy627
      @howdy627 Před 4 lety +3

      I got a damascus ax like your with rosewood handle , its a fine ax to hang on the side of a vikeing ship, i have a straight 2 handled with a curved end, so my ax won't fly out of my hand

  • @brogurt
    @brogurt Před 4 lety +111

    The fragility of the curved handle could be remedied by bending the curve into it with heat/steam rather than cutting the curve into it with whatever milling process they use. It's an ancient technique. That way the grain follows the shape, rather than the endgrain being exposed at potential stress points. That makes for a much more expensive handle though because it's more time intensive than just cutting out a handle with a saw. I recently purchased a sythe for cutting my hay, and they shaped it with steam. Just the snath (wood part) was ~$160. The craftsmanship and skill to make lifelong tools comes at a price. But like Skall said, you could just pick up cheap tools at a hardware store. Some of them will be good quality, but they're not like they used to be. If you know the location of an Amish community I recommend their crafted goods. They still put care, hard work, respect, and love into their goods, on par with Tolkien's elves, which made their items "magic."

    • @alexs5814
      @alexs5814 Před 4 lety +1

      Exactly my thougths! the way the grain was literally pinpointing the line where the curved handle would break/split in time. wow.

    • @zeening
      @zeening Před 2 lety +1

      pretty unrelated but good video on how crazy you can get with the steam bending wood vs how breakable it is without steam xylah foxlin made a video where she made an entire corset that she wears out of cedar wood strips, think it's called cedar-stripping or something, the process they use to make canoes it was pretty cool.

  • @johnjason1472
    @johnjason1472 Před 4 lety +353

    5:46 "its not just for chopping limbs"
    You meant _branches_ , right skall?

  • @prismaticc_abyss
    @prismaticc_abyss Před 4 lety +365

    He lives far away from Erik now, so he has to break the axe Handels himself

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede Před 4 lety +9

      Best! Comment! Ever! I laughed so hard!

    • @weswolever7477
      @weswolever7477 Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah...I was going to make an Eric comment, and then......

  • @solwogan5356
    @solwogan5356 Před 4 lety +366

    Dude, you gave up a perfect opportunity to say "AXES DENIED"

  • @jb8086
    @jb8086 Před 4 lety +55

    An old way of making curved axe handles was to steam/heat and bend the wood. This made it so the grain didn’t run off the side and weaken it. Old hewing axes for turning tree trunks into square logs were bent with an offset to the side so you didn’t hit your hands on the log.

    • @pierlombardini8705
      @pierlombardini8705 Před 3 lety

      They still make handles that way, obviously that raises the price

  • @migueeeelet
    @migueeeelet Před 4 lety +129

    I'd say that in this case, the shaft's curve causing the head to be a bit back should make the center of gravity a bit more centered, not skewed to a side.

    • @vindiesel3066
      @vindiesel3066 Před 4 lety +14

      You know what else’s shaft is curved, causing the head to be a bit back?

    • @lemongraabtheforsaken1225
      @lemongraabtheforsaken1225 Před 4 lety +4

      Oh i didn’t even consider that, interesting.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Před 4 lety +34

      @@vindiesel3066
      A scythe's.

    • @leviathanpretzel
      @leviathanpretzel Před 4 lety +18

      @@DinnerForkTongue nice recovery

    • @carlosmorris4510
      @carlosmorris4510 Před 4 lety +8

      That was my first impression; the curved handle would create better balance... Too bad about the grain of the shaft with this one though.

  • @AdamCeladin
    @AdamCeladin Před 4 lety +44

    Great Review Skall! BTW Rinadli have one of the best throwing axes that i ever tried ,))

    • @SolitarySword
      @SolitarySword Před 3 lety +2

      Are we talking tomahawk, hatchet or double-bit?

  • @WindHaze10
    @WindHaze10 Před 4 lety +23

    You see those vikings from Rinaldi? They've got curved axe handles. Curved. Axe handles.

  • @leprachaun69
    @leprachaun69 Před 4 lety +72

    I ordered the kingfisher machete from Baryonyx almost two years ago. Still haven't received it. Ive been in contact with the owner multiple times via email and always get the same response: "Yours is one of the next orders to be fulfilled and should be going out very soon!" I fully expected to have to wait a while for the machete but at this point i feel like they are just pandering me and don't really care about customers. Maybe my order is an anomaly and they are a good company to order from, but personally i will never order from them again.
    Edit: Just finished the video and the bit at the end that Skall addressed about the kingfisher wait times is totally understandable and i would normally be fine with. However, I wish the company would be more transparent about the wait times instead of generic replies of "soon!" whenever i contacted them.

    • @witherrose1566
      @witherrose1566 Před 4 lety +22

      Aeorik jesus, that kinda sounds scummy.

    • @animeswords8750
      @animeswords8750 Před 4 lety +20

      I had the same experience as well. Waited almost a year for my order.
      When the one year anniversary was coming up i sent a sarcastic email to them congratulating them on up coming anniversary. It seemed to work. They got my order the following week.
      Might give it a try. Oh i did keep it nice. Just dripping with sarcasm.
      Good luck.

    • @DShiflet01
      @DShiflet01 Před 4 lety +9

      I've ordered from them dozens of times without issue. Had a package lost in the mail once and a replacement was shipped an hour after I emailed them. It did take awhile to get the kingfisher but it did eventually show.

    • @leprachaun69
      @leprachaun69 Před 4 lety +22

      @@animeswords8750 Ive sent an email about ever 6 months, each one becoming increasingly more sarcastic while keeping it overly nice and professional. At this point its become almost a joke in my house that it will get here sometime in the next decade.

    • @jamescanjuggle
      @jamescanjuggle Před 4 lety +5

      anything nearing 2 years is too long in my opinion.
      If you feel like the item is really worth the wait, then wait.
      However even despite them being behind orders/Covid its still not acceptable to have customers wait that long. I'd be asking for a refund and putting my money somewhere else since its practically been a sunk cost. Maybe order from them at a later date.

  • @colonelkenpachi5009
    @colonelkenpachi5009 Před 4 lety +415

    It's understandable why he wouldn't like axe's, No Pommel.

    • @lorinenecro8555
      @lorinenecro8555 Před 4 lety +7

      You see that thicker part of the bottom of the shaft right? What do you think that is~. xp.

    • @colonelkenpachi5009
      @colonelkenpachi5009 Před 4 lety +10

      @@lorinenecro8555 eh doesn't count it's unscrewable.

    • @lorinenecro8555
      @lorinenecro8555 Před 4 lety +8

      @@colonelkenpachi5009 Whelp so are you but you're still human.

    • @MyLungsStillBurn
      @MyLungsStillBurn Před 4 lety +5

      @@lorinenecro8555 this took me a second but...
      OH SHIT THAT'S SUCH A BURN

    • @colonelkenpachi5009
      @colonelkenpachi5009 Před 4 lety +5

      @@lorinenecro8555 well that the issue I'm not a Pommel so I'm not ment for screwing. Lol

  • @cookie_space
    @cookie_space Před 4 lety +72

    Is it a good battle axe?
    "Yes, if you change the hilt to a longer one. And the blade to a lighter one. Then it is a good battle axe."

    • @eddard9442
      @eddard9442 Před 4 lety +6

      Or you could use it in one hand with a shield, you hit anyone with that they are dead, if they try to block thier shield it may just cleave through and wound them and destroying thier shield.

    • @dexexmachinatu4151
      @dexexmachinatu4151 Před 4 lety +10

      Sooo a completely different axe altogether?

    • @cobraglatiator
      @cobraglatiator Před 4 lety +5

      i mean,the head is a little thick and heavy,not optimal, but decent, but yea, get a bigger haft. is what was said. really.

    • @prcervi
      @prcervi Před 4 lety +1

      perfectly suitable in a pinch, not recommended though

    • @jameskazd9951
      @jameskazd9951 Před 4 lety +1

      @@eddard9442 it would get a little heavy, thats why battle axes tend to have quite small heads.

  • @ct7567CaptRex
    @ct7567CaptRex Před 4 lety +22

    My dad always had two axes. One with a rather thin blade and one with a splitting head behind the blade for wet, soked wood. Because the thin blade actually got stuck on the piece of wood if it had to much water in it.

    • @davideb.4290
      @davideb.4290 Před 4 lety

      Those two are meant for different uses.
      The splitting head is obviously fpr splitting, while the thinner one is just for cutting

    • @ct7567CaptRex
      @ct7567CaptRex Před 4 lety +1

      @@davideb.4290 I know. I just couldnt describe it better. English isnt my mother tounge

  • @Kishandreth
    @Kishandreth Před 4 lety +73

    My thoughts: The axe head seems great. It's a tool and it's designed correctly. It may look rough, but your target can't call a time out because it's not being hit by a fancy looking weapon. If you want to touch it up and make it look good then spend the time doing it.
    The handle: Any handle will split along the grain, the best way to overcome this is a straight handle(straight grain), or starting with a straight handle and curving it. Personal preferences should be the deciding factor. A handle is easy enough to make/find/buy.
    Could be an interesting buy just for the head, then trying out various handle lengths to suit your preference. Axe + Shield could be a good choice, or a longer 2 handed axe. The head would only take a day or two to make it fancy enough for a wall hanger.

    • @oyblech8671
      @oyblech8671 Před 4 lety +5

      it seems a bit hefty to be used with one hand, I certainly wouldn't be of much use if I had this in one and a round shield in the other hand

    • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
      @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 Před 4 lety +4

      If you want to do the curved handles correctly you need to find/cultivate a piece of wood with the right shape grain.
      Good luck finding that at the hardware shop.

    • @prcervi
      @prcervi Před 4 lety

      it does come with a straight handle option

    • @snorgonofborkkad
      @snorgonofborkkad Před 4 lety +2

      You don’t need to write “my thoughts” with a colon after it. It’s a comment section. We already know you’re talking about your thoughts.

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 Před 4 lety +1

      @@snorgonofborkkad I agree with you, in principle, but in comment sections there is usually that guy that reads everything he does not agree with as "a statement of truth" from the writer that he just HAVE to challange! I wish it would be as civile that you say but,sadly, it is not.

  • @Str4vv
    @Str4vv Před 4 lety +219

    Not a looker? The fine bevel, the head seated elegently due to the curve and the hint of a beard. That thing is gorgeous.
    But I have to say, in my opinion "function always trumps form" and inlfuences/skews my view of esthetics heavily. Something that won´t work properly just isn´t sexy.
    From tools and weapons to high heels and corsets, no matter the context. Maybe I´m just weird :D

    • @zacharyrollick6169
      @zacharyrollick6169 Před 4 lety +13

      I get you. I find utilitarianism attractive as well.

    • @exlibrisas
      @exlibrisas Před 4 lety +4

      Same about women, eh? :D

    • @Just_A_Dude
      @Just_A_Dude Před 4 lety +1

      I totally agree.
      A thing that looks like what it is looks like it should, and anything that looks like it should is satisfying to behold.

    • @Str4vv
      @Str4vv Před 4 lety +3

      @APassersby that's just the way I am wired. It is so aweful when people (mostly women) can basically "only exist" and not, move, breath, use their hands (long/fake nails...) or walk on anything that is not 100% flat and solid.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 Před 4 lety

      Well it depend on the corset as most are just supportive undergarments as apposed to torture/disfigurement devises. But I agree, when something becomes so elaborate that it impairs the function of the item or person in question it immediately loses much of its appeal.

  • @someguy1947
    @someguy1947 Před 4 lety +10

    Skall that thumbnail is incredible. Please keep up the amazing work! Been watching you since the beginning and Im happy to see how much you've progressed over the years 😊

  • @Grabehn42
    @Grabehn42 Před 4 lety +22

    The Viking looking guy that lives in the woods? Nah, he totally hates axes.

  • @Mike-NP
    @Mike-NP Před 4 lety +2

    You say it's not "a looker" but there is certainly something attractive about a rugged tool well-made for it's intended purpose.

  • @stephaniewilson3955
    @stephaniewilson3955 Před 4 lety +73

    I assumed they had steamed the wood and then curved it. Just cutting it with that curve is asking for trouble.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Před 4 lety +21

      Or seek out naturally curved branches and process along the grain. But that's not what the commercial wood industry is set up for.

    • @AngDavies
      @AngDavies Před 4 lety +3

      They probably did- his implication seemed to be that most of the grain was following the curve just some wasn't- a curve or a knot or something throwing the grain off and creating a weakpoint
      Maybe just some QC issues, still cheap enough that it's forgivable, the steel seems good, and you could probably replace the handle with a better one

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před 4 lety +18

      Yeah unfortunately from the looks of it they just cut it to shape.... Which is likely why the first handle broke. (I'd just get the straight handle)

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree Před 4 lety +13

      On the handle that broke, the grain is straight. If the wood was bent, the grain would curve. I think it's safe to say the wood was cut to shape, not bent.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Před 4 lety +13

      @@AngDavies
      They definitely didn't. Had they bent the wood, the grain would also be curved, not straight and heading off the edge of the shaft.

  • @BlacK40k
    @BlacK40k Před 4 lety +1

    Really love that Skallagrim became more relaxed and easy-going over the years

  • @camdenbertrand1711
    @camdenbertrand1711 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Skall, professional axe throwing instructor and avid woodsman here. The reason your handle broke is because of the grain orientation. the grain of your handle should be parallel to the blade. With the right grain orientation the curve wont compromise the handle's strength. In fact, bad grain orientation will compromise straight handles just as easily. Think of the grain like laminated sheets. If you flex the wood in a way that would pull layers apart you have breaks. If the layer lines are parallel to the blade, the force of impact is distributed in the direction each layer of grain is thickest and it is less likely to break. New or old growth wood would also play a role. The wider the grain lines, the newer the growth. New growth is less dense and more prone to breaking. This is why, if you can find them, vintage handles are the best; they are all usually old growth wood. Also, if you take the above parameters in mind, the curved handle does give a mechanical advantage. I enjoy your content! keep it up.

  • @tom_olofsson
    @tom_olofsson Před 4 lety +1

    I bought a Rinaldi boy's axe from Baryonyx. I really enjoy using it. The tomahawk design makes it easy to pack for camping and easy to replace the handle.

  • @patrickcharette2151
    @patrickcharette2151 Před 4 lety +7

    My guess as to the relevance of the handle shape is to bring the bit of the axe head closer to the axis of lateral pivot. Doing so increases accuracy (generally accepted idea) and especially with an axe with such a long bit, reducing the distance to the centreline will have more of an effect. Since it’s a felling axe and would be used horizontally-ish most of the time (more exhausting then splitting wood, a vertical action) the reduction in potential for missed or poorly placed strokes would make it less exhausting to use when slicing the big ground broccolis aka trees!

    • @bryangrote8781
      @bryangrote8781 Před 4 lety +1

      I agree. It would definitely affect the balance, which affects accuracy. Also why I always preferred a double bit ax over a single bit ax. Doubles are fully balanced (plus less frequent sharpening). I will say though the handles on singles were more durable than the straight ones on the doubles in my experience but could be down to difference in thickness at the top. Bad swings were much more forgiving on the curved, thicker single but handles.
      I've killed many many trees with axes in my younger days, never had a chainsaw that would run. Used to throw em for fun too, which is easy with double bit. Singles always wanted to flip around backwards.

  • @CardinalBiggles01
    @CardinalBiggles01 Před 4 lety

    00:36 "Taking a look at a good tool is not something i would pass up". And you said that with a perfectly straight face. Well done sir.

  • @harbingerx7793
    @harbingerx7793 Před 4 lety

    I ordered a kingfisher back in Oct 2018. Just got it today. So yes, they are behind. But they are delivering. And thier customer service response was prompt and polite. It was a long wait, but for good reason. And the Kingfisher is a beast!

  • @13bravoredleg18
    @13bravoredleg18 Před 3 lety +1

    I've cut down some serious trees with my Rinaldi Large Cadore (1500 gram) axe. It's also good at splitting with a 38 inch straight ash handle. I used a 36 grit flap disc on a angle grinder to clean up the axe head. It's my favorite axe!

  • @Columkille72
    @Columkille72 Před 4 lety +2

    In past times, people used to cut crooked handles out of branches that where growing in the right shape to make sure the grain follows the shape over the whole lenght.

  • @TrangleC
    @TrangleC Před 4 lety +1

    As far as I know those bent shafts are primarily to help with edge alignment. By offsetting the head and part of the shaft to the back, so to say, the inertia of that "leaning back" mass pulls it straight when you swing. It is a bit like with the wheels on a office chair. You know what I mean? By offsetting the wheel from the rotational axis, you ensure that the wheel drags behind whenever you move the chair and thus is aligned in the direction of movement.
    On the chair wheel it is friction that pulls it back, on the ax it is inertia, but the effect is the same.

  • @kleinjahr
    @kleinjahr Před 4 lety +9

    The grain run out is fairly common in sawn stock. If it was riven out of the log and then steam bent, it would likely be better.

    • @tarille1043
      @tarille1043 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah, though I think that would increase the price of the axe due to the extra work. Just getting the straight haft version and a good axe for $85 is a good deal. Steam bent haft would allow for the curved haft design to function though.

  • @tristanvandever9411
    @tristanvandever9411 Před 3 lety +1

    the reason some axes have like a 45 degree bevel and a thick blade is because they are for spliting wood and the thickness allows the force of the swing and the angle of the bevel to push the wood out to the side mor then a thin blade allowing you to split the wood like logs better, whereas a felling axe has a thin blade and a shallow bevel allowing you to go deeper into the trunk of a tree so you can fell it faster

  • @tonycassi1748
    @tonycassi1748 Před 4 lety

    I am an italian farmer, rinaldi is a very famous brand in this environment for its quality and performance. thanks for the review 🇮🇹👍🏻

  • @nilsschenkel7149
    @nilsschenkel7149 Před 4 lety +4

    Yeah, saw you holding the axe up and said to myself "oh, the grain on that curve looks pretty weak". Lo and behold, broke exactly there. If someone wanted to make a durable handle with that kind of curve, they'd probably have to steam bend the stock or make it from laminated wood. The price might be different then, though...

  • @TheMagicalTaco
    @TheMagicalTaco Před 4 lety +3

    I think that having a curved handle will bring the center of mass (or pivot point) slightly forwards because you spend more wood going sideways and not just straight up on the far end of the axe. (please note that I'm not a physicist, this is just a layman's perspective)

  • @peterhansmann3289
    @peterhansmann3289 Před 4 lety

    just wanted to mention (unlike everyone else) that this is the best thumbnail I've seen

  • @RolandKontson
    @RolandKontson Před 4 lety +2

    Love the resonating sound of the blade @11:10
    Based on the grain the handle is just cut out as opposed to with directing or picking growth of a branch or bend it into shape with water over a long time - in school used rope fixed at the ends which we tightened after every couple of days (broadly recalled, don't remember if it took days or months) to get a 180deg bend with roughly meter diameter bend, while it was well thicker then a broom handle. A wrap would also probably help.

  • @ascendantfiction7220
    @ascendantfiction7220 Před 4 lety

    Since I've seen a lot of comments talking about the Baryonyx delays re Kingfishers, thought I'd share. Emailed them for an update a couple days ago (marking the 18 month anniversary of my order) and in addition to saying that mine was in the next scheduled batch to go out next week, they also mentioned that they're recently added more manpower to their workforce which has greatly sped things up. Hopefully that means everyone still waiting gets theirs soon!

  • @Arrow-dx1ov
    @Arrow-dx1ov Před 4 lety

    You can tell when someone is truly knowledgeable on a topic; when small discusses he’s talking about a tooling axe and discloses that’s it’s not something he’s familiar with and not his area of experience and knowledge. Very humble good sir

    • @a-sheepof-christ9027
      @a-sheepof-christ9027 Před 4 lety

      That's actually run of the mill... It's not a hallmark for anything really.

  • @hildolfrdraugadrottin7279

    I wanted to buy that axe awhile back but they were sold out everywhere. I did however find a Prandi Trenton axe which is basically the same style of axe just bigger.
    I have many years of experience working with axes and I'm also a collector.
    These trenton pattern axes chop extremely well with deep penetration and wide cuts. It does stick a lot though which is it's major drawback.
    As far as a weapon you are correct, they are too heavy to be used effectively against traditional type weapons of long ago. They would however be a pretty fair weapon if wielded by an experienced user and definitely capable of delivering lethal effects. I imagine the executioner would be smiling under his hood at the idea of using it to carry out his duties.
    Hopefully Rinaldi starts making enough to export again because I really want one to customize.
    I thinned out the edge, stripped the paint and gave my trenton a mirror finish. I then thinned the handle, stained it and gave it a wax finish. All this took a little weight off of it and greatly increased its cutting ability which was already very good. I'll eventually give the head a patina to make it more traditional looking. You should consider doing something like that to some of your axes. It not only improves their performance it's kinda fun and relaxing too. Cool video! 😊

  • @user-ih4vf1hh5g
    @user-ih4vf1hh5g Před 4 lety

    Skall! That thumbnail, really axeseeded my axepectations! Axesiting! You outaxed yourself there.

  • @enricocarraro4547
    @enricocarraro4547 Před 3 lety +1

    Great tool! Fun fact: here in Italy that axe is pretty cheap, they sell them for about 40 euros (47 USD).
    Rinaldi is a very appreciated tools' brand, here in Italy. They have hand-produced fine working tools for more than 200 years!

  • @gamebrainjagras4193
    @gamebrainjagras4193 Před 4 lety

    I’m so glad Baryonyx has returned to the channel

  • @martinombra
    @martinombra Před 4 lety +2

    Hi skall, i write you from italy and i wanted to tell you That here That axe costs around 52€, so i think there are some importations taxes in the 80$ price. So i think That the quality and the ruff finish is justified for the original price. (and forgive My ruff too English).

  • @darklighter8968
    @darklighter8968 Před 4 lety +65

    Totally not my thing
    Yeahhhhh *staring at that shouldered axe* riiiight
    U just can't get viking out of u huh ;)

  • @VeraTheTabbynx
    @VeraTheTabbynx Před 4 lety

    Seeing it completely explode that zombie head was terriffic. Good review, a lot more information than could be reasonably expected.

  • @fizz576
    @fizz576 Před 4 lety

    I like that you took a look at a tool instead of a weapon for once not that looking at weapons is a bad thing.

  • @claymoresteel
    @claymoresteel Před 3 lety

    Rinaldi axes are some of my favourite axes, such nice bite into the wood, so clean through, not the same as a chipping heavy axe such as a Tasmanian pattern axe. I just love those very thin tapers on the Rinaldis

  • @Trueforger
    @Trueforger Před 4 lety +1

    I *just* recieved my Kingfisher, last week. I haven't got to play with it, but it finally came. I was a little miffed because when I last talked to them in December, they made it sound like I was practically next in line to get my sword, but then, almost 9 months later, I still didn't receive anything. But, they got around to sending it, finally. You just might need to email them, directly.

  • @DraculaCronqvist
    @DraculaCronqvist Před 4 lety

    Okay, that thumbnail is a work of art, I love it.

  • @Lttlemoi
    @Lttlemoi Před 4 lety +3

    That method of attaching the head is also used for pickaxes, which makes them really easy to store.

  • @stupidbeetle
    @stupidbeetle Před 4 lety

    Funny you release this video now. I'm staying in Estes Park Colorado right now where the outside hotel shot from The Shining was taken.

  • @fahimzahir2085
    @fahimzahir2085 Před 4 lety +1

    @Skallagrim
    Given:
    Assuming a Uniform model
    The Axe handle is curved in relation to the axe head
    Time of swing is constant
    Velocity is constant
    Then we can say that the Force generated by the axes whether the handle is straight or curved (F = MA) is the same. The force output is relational to the mass of the axe and the acceleration.
    We know that that acceleration is the rate of change in Velocity (Position and Speed) in respect to the change in time (Here time is the time taken to swing to reach the tree). Knowing this the only factor that would change how much Force the axes apply is whether one is significantly heavier than the other, or the acceleration is orders of magnitude more. This implies that if acceleration is larger then the time of swing must be smaller because (Acceleration = DV/DT, DT = time of the swing.) so the inherent debate that the curve allows more time to accelerate is could be true depending on your reference but not applicable to the debate because acceleration depends on your velocity over time..so if in theory you had more time to swing but the positional change remained the same distance then the acceleration would be smaller.
    So the curve doesn't really matter but what matters more in determining acceleration is the change in the velocity versus change in time.
    So knowing these basic principles I believe that the curve is negligible in determining Force although if we were to measure the amount of Work done by either axe then the curve would have some effect because Work is computed as a function of Distance and Force.
    TLDR: I think the debate that the curve in the axe gives it more time to accelerate is irrelevant because acceleration is independent of time if we assume a uniformity. If uniformity is not a factor in regards to acceleration then I don't think we can't make any clear statements with regards to whether the curve matters or not because there is too much variability in DV and DT.
    I am not qualified, I havent really studied much physics but this is my attempt to explain it. I could be wrong so if someone has a degree in physics or knows a lot more...chime in and obliterate my life.

  • @salimufari
    @salimufari Před 4 lety

    The curved handle also helps the blade edge avoid rolling on contact because the urge to rotate is actually keeping the head in line with the cut. It also adds a shock absorbing quality too. The one big drawback is the grain orientation of the wood has to support the curve well. I would love to see a steam shaped handle maybe as a way around the grain issue. That or very careful wood selection for the curved haft. The hang on that head is pretty btw. Simple & elegant.

  • @ondrejh571
    @ondrejh571 Před 4 lety +6

    It's funny as since I've first seen the curved shaft I though myself "with such interrupted grains this is prone to break". And watching the video further, it actually did... This would only be reliable if it was made of naturally curved part of the tree.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 4 lety +1

      You could also steam a straight handle into the curve you want.

    • @ondrejh571
      @ondrejh571 Před 4 lety

      @@ScottKenny1978 That's true, but such a thick shaft would be very hard to bend.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ondrejh571 not too hard, watch Acorn to Arabella. They bent what looks like 4"/10cm oak beams into boat frames. Takes about two hours of steaming for that thick a beam, so a handle could probably be steamed in an hour, then stuffed into a mold for the handle shape. Let dry overnight. Pull from mold the next day and finish shaping the handle.
      Technically only adds about 10min of labor per handle, if that.

  • @TheAnonymousSword
    @TheAnonymousSword Před 4 lety

    the arch in that handle is actually very good in use because it balances this bit right in the middle and thus it follows your swing exactly and doesn't roll when thrown (not literally but when you throw a cut with it). But yes, acutely curved handles like this are more prone to splitting this way because you have a whole lot of cut fibres where forces are going through the handle, thus splitting the fibres apart at the weakest point. If you'd do such a handle proper you'd steam-bend the whole thing or go with a straight handle and lose that balance point. Gransfors also makes good axes but I have always tinkered with their handles cause they could be a little more square with flatter sides.

  • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
    @jamesfrankiewicz5768 Před 4 lety

    The curved handle brings the center of balance of the head more closely inline with the primary axis of the handle. For fully horizontal swings (like when felling a still-standing tree), it makes it slightly easier to maintain edge alignment (i.e. so the head isn't try to twist so much toward the ground during the swing). The other approach to make edge alignment easier for this use, would be to have a straight handle and a double-bitted, balanced axe head.

  • @yargmouth
    @yargmouth Před 4 lety

    Beautiful tool at a reasonable price...may have to pick one up! Thank you Skall, your vids are always insightful and interesting.

  • @kumpel1139
    @kumpel1139 Před 4 lety +1

    The rather fine edge is optimized for cutting. A steeper edge angle is usually an advantage if you are mostly splitting wood which in the age of cheap chainsaws is probable.

  • @VeganJutsu
    @VeganJutsu Před 4 lety

    Much love to Ben at Baryonyx knif Co.

  • @iamzid
    @iamzid Před 4 lety

    they should make the curved handles the way chair makers make curved chair backs. basically they take a straight grain plank and steam it until it becomes pliable, then they clamp it to a form until it cools and dries. after which it holds the shape forever. this method removes the worry is grain faults.

  • @sylvain7277
    @sylvain7277 Před 3 lety

    I've made handles for various tools and can tell cutting one out of a plank for example is always going to be a recipe for premature splitting. You have to respect the veins just like for a bow (ok maybe not as much).
    The grain has to be continuous from the head to the end of the handle. A branch is the best idea, honestly, from something like ash or hazel. If the curving was that important they could have tried bending a branch with heating or finding a branch with the right curve :)

  • @carloshenriquezimmer7543

    As far as I know the curve is there just to bring the center of mass of the axe head closer to the center line of the handle.
    That makes it easyer to handle for longer periods of time, like when felling a large tree.
    An alternative to this are double bladed axes, the simetrical head balances itself .
    Also I just had to laugh when Skall said "I have not broke this YET".
    To me it sounded like "challenge accepted".

  • @MeleeTiger
    @MeleeTiger Před 4 lety

    It figures you do an axe video the days after I had to grind/sharpen/clean 3 axes and chop wood.
    I was maintaining 2 hatchets and getting my 19th century broad-axe ready for chopping.
    We saved it from an old decrepit barn as just a head sitting in oil, got in a handle and use it every few years.
    The head alone weighs 10 lbs!

  • @thebadguy0-026
    @thebadguy0-026 Před 4 lety +2

    I tried ordering one as soon as i finished the video yesterday. They were sold out within 13 hours of skalls video 😂

  • @tiberiumnp8030
    @tiberiumnp8030 Před 4 lety +3

    Different axe head thicknesses and bevel angles are for different types of jobs. Not a surprise that many companies who manufacture all sorts of blades, including or exclusive fantasy designs, would mess up when trying to make a proper tool like an axe is. Also curved handles tend to work a lot better with a bit smaller axes, unfortunately some traditional axe companies such as Fiskars has moved away from those in favor of straight composite handles.

  • @TIGIO
    @TIGIO Před 4 lety

    That axe looks very much alike to Kratos's Leviathan Axe and in the beginning of the game he is felling trees. Kind of cool the developers paid attention to that. Also nice vid as always skall.

  • @spinne1312
    @spinne1312 Před 3 lety

    I think the curved shaft makes the balance point be directly above the shaft making it easier to handle. Also it distributes the energy better, so its a lot more durable, if it follows the grain. So you'd have to bend it instead of just cutting it out like that.

  • @Freytraz
    @Freytraz Před 4 lety +1

    This kind o fracture on the wood is quite easy to fix with wood glue. Just clean, apply the glue and clamp it together. Allegedly the glue bond should be stronger than the rest of the wood, so it would not be a point of weakness..

  • @TheSandborn
    @TheSandborn Před 4 lety

    I like the tool reviews with light self defense on the side makes it a good time all around. ✌

  • @FairlyUnknown
    @FairlyUnknown Před 4 lety +3

    If you don't need to send the axe back to them and don't have any other plans to use it to cut trees as it is in its current form, a cool video would be you making and fitting a longer handle onto it!

  • @bigsepticc9948
    @bigsepticc9948 Před 4 lety +7

    My first thought: god damned pine.
    We have pine that grows overzealous on our trails and it’s hard to tackle with an axe and too thick for a machete. I’d wager from the long cutting edge and axe like handle that this thing axe like a good combination of the two. That’s my first impression, anyway.

  • @yugen
    @yugen Před 4 lety

    Sold out. Thanks Skal.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Před 4 lety +1

    That thumbnail is god-tier.

  • @wolfhead21
    @wolfhead21 Před 4 lety +3

    If I'm not mistaken you could sort the issue with the handle out by cooking the straight wood and bending it into shape. As far as I can remember that was done with arrows. But that would drive the cost up again.

  • @Mettwurschtbrot
    @Mettwurschtbrot Před 3 lety

    This has very similar dimensions as the leviathan axe from god of war 4...so i got one for 55€ and completely reshaped it. Bearded axe and took lots of weight of the sides, making it much thinner. Tomorrow engraving the runes. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @internaut4257
    @internaut4257 Před 4 lety

    That thumbnail is a 11/10 skall

  • @michaelt6413
    @michaelt6413 Před 4 lety

    That break you experienced is my exact reason for not liking curved handles. That and they're harder to throw.

  • @KraljCorvin
    @KraljCorvin Před 4 lety

    Rinaldi is making some good axes and hatchets so far. I tested one or two of them and they are all good and affordable tools.

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita Před 4 lety

    I once read an article that a northern italian tribe used to have battleaxes with a similar backward curved shaft,and they were famous for their effectiveness

  • @de14jabs
    @de14jabs Před 4 lety

    First 15 seconds is 1 reason why I’m subbed and stay subbed 😂😂😂

  • @TruthIsTheNewHate84
    @TruthIsTheNewHate84 Před 4 lety

    If you're worried about it breaking and you don't want to replace the handle again you could try wrapping some sinew around the parts you're worried about. I've done it before and it seems to work.

  • @DeHymenator
    @DeHymenator Před 4 lety +1

    I bet it helps if your edge alignment is slightly off. The closer the edge is to the handle axis the less torque is imparted into your hand. So I bet bad cuts would bite deeper than strait handles.

  • @DefaultString
    @DefaultString Před 4 lety +1

    I like the rough look of the head!

  • @Pieslayer1992
    @Pieslayer1992 Před 4 lety

    A curved axe handle is to make it fit in places a non curved handle wouldn't offsetting the eye to the handle reduces the footprint of where the head will go. For example if you have too stick a wrench into an odd angle or a straight one you would use two different types of wrenches depending on the clearance of the area.

  • @notamexican91
    @notamexican91 Před 4 lety +2

    A basic straight-handled felling axe (or a traditional european pattern) is fairly off-balance; more susceptible to turning the axe in your grip upon landing a heavier blow. The curved handle is to maintain a familiar head shape while moving the center of mass further back to get more accurate and consistent strikes.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851
    @Doc-Holliday1851 Před 4 lety

    Pushing the axe head backwards brings the cutting edge more in line with the hand, which means more accurate cuts that are less likely to rotate the hands when striking a surface.

  • @Serasitas
    @Serasitas Před 4 lety

    A lot of those axes are meant more for splitting fire wood and not chopping into logs, hence why the bevel is that way, it's meant to be hitting the flat end grain of a log to split it.

  • @VadersDarkside
    @VadersDarkside Před 4 lety

    I don't need an axe , I don't want an axe , yet I watched this all the way through. Your review style is amazing Skall , keep up the great work. 👍

  • @themittonmethod1243
    @themittonmethod1243 Před 4 lety

    The only way to realistically eliminate grain run-out on a curved handle is to steam-bend it from a straight piece, but that would increase costs significantly as well. Cheers from BC!

  • @damianblu
    @damianblu Před 4 lety

    I'd love to see you review Mark and Dylan McCoun's Tomahawks.
    They're super nice for what you get, durable, and all around a ton of fun.
    Pretty good prices too for US made hand forged pieces.

  • @haveaknifeday
    @haveaknifeday Před 4 lety

    It did take a while to get the kingfisher but it did arrive but don’t hold your breathe for the sheath because it doesn’t come with a sheath when delivered.

  • @timothyhanna6304
    @timothyhanna6304 Před 4 lety

    I dont know why but that axe is beautiful.
    Just the shape, the curves, oh my god.

  • @deathbyastonishment7930

    That axe head is beautiful, I would love one of their smaller versions, the Trento boys axe perhaps

  • @goldmegaman1000
    @goldmegaman1000 Před 4 lety

    These are the puns and thumbnails I live for

  • @hurrdurr3615
    @hurrdurr3615 Před 3 lety

    About the curved handle, a backwards curved handle makes it so the center of mass of the axehead is closer to the axis of the handle. If you accelerate the axe, and your edge alignment isn't perfect, a center of mass in front of the axis of the handle will create a momentum that is pushing the edge further out of alignment. If the center of mass is behind the axis of the handle, the opposite occurs: the edge is pushed towards perfect alignment. If the center of mass is directly on the axis of the handle, neither will occur.

  • @CtrlAltPhreak
    @CtrlAltPhreak Před 4 lety

    Not even joking, I sat and laughed at the thumbnail for a few minutes before I even clicked on it.

  • @tarille1043
    @tarille1043 Před 4 lety

    I'm so axecited about another axecellent review from Skall!

  • @wolvenedvard3049
    @wolvenedvard3049 Před 3 lety

    I don't know, that looks like the perfect "balance" between tool and battle design. Impressive!

  • @Daniboy049
    @Daniboy049 Před 4 lety

    Yes! I’ve been eyeing this for so long, and I thought it looked like a small Dane axe. Can’t wait to watch this 😍🙃

  • @shanecullinane7299
    @shanecullinane7299 Před 4 lety

    First video of yours I’ve seen and you have earned yourself a new sub my good sir