You really have to enjoy a day at the range, thanks for sharing your results. I enjoy precision hand loading, and I’m always amazed by the groups of some factory ammo. Very impressive, be well my friends.
When it comes to the Barnes ammo, I highly recommend you to try the 130 grains TTSX BT ammo. I have found that to shoot well in many more guns than their 150 grains ammo. When I reloaded for my now ex-wife, and her Tikka T3, I also found it easier to get good accuracy with the 130 grains TTSX BT bullet than with the 150 grains one and it also proved to be a VERY good hunting bullet, including on moose.
Nice comparison! Just be sure your barrel is clean if you’ve previously shot lead loads. This will give the copper bullets their best chance to group well.
Enjoyed your video. We use Barnes TTSX 130 grain in my grandson’s 308 and it’s screaming at about 3200 fps and has little recoil with a suppressor, he’s 10 years old and he loves shooting his rifle.
Some rifles like different bullets and hate others. Mine love Barnes . Both get under 3/4 grp. Though they hate winchester coper rounds which are around a 2 inch grp. Find what yours like, and the batch number and buy the lot of them. Otherwise youll need to handload to get your favorite bullet to shoot accurately.
The lighter is better theory has some validity, but it’s also important to consider down range ballistics. The lighter bullets cut through the air more poorly than a heavier, “slippery-er” bullet. For 308, think 130 grain TSX v. 168 grain TTSX. The 130 is going to be screaming but the 168 could catch up to it in velocity. For my hunting needs I believe a 150 is the sweet spot for the 308 in a copper bullet, but everyone has to crunch the numbers and see what will work for them. If only I could get the 150s to shoot well, they are all just OK at 1.25-1.5”.
I’m guessing Sako did there homework before releasing that factory load, that’s fantastic groups for factory. I’m a Barnes bullet fan but I’m a reloader, not much experience with factory stuff anymore.
I like that rifle, if it didn't come in a thumb hole stock. Not a fan of thumb hole stocks. Not a fan of all copper bullets either but got some federal ammo loaded with the barnes bullets to try in my 300 win mag this year. We'll see how it goes I guess.
Did you see backfire a few weeks ago, tested the clean barrel theory for copper? Apparently it makes a huge difference in grouping. I’ve heard it before but never seen anyone test it. So the moral of the story for those watching if you have been shooting lead clean your barrel before going to copper. Also accuracy drops on copper rounds as there’s more ammo shot through it but that’s just my observation from the one video
Mr.Mr. & Adrien- I was seeing poor results shooting copper after lead. Saw the Backfire/Spomer videos and tested it myself. It’s 100% spot on- if you want accurate monolithic results, clean your barrel extremely well then shoot the copper.
Titanium shoulder on full display again. Its common to shoot lighter copper bullets for the increased velocity needed for expansion. At least 2000 fps at impact. Ive yet to find any factory copper that shoots well, haven't tried the sako though. Nicely done as always. Cheers
@ReviewThisThing I did check only because euro guns are typically slower twist. It is actually 1:11. I think most american guns are 1:10. Do you think the slower twist is better for copper bullets? I couldn't believe the results you got with the g20 because I have not had anywhere near that accuracy with Sig copper in my ruger .308. I have been told many times that longer bullets require a faster twist rate, not slower and copper has to be longer because it's lighter than lead.
@johnandrosemarywyatt977 that’s definitely interesting. I’ve heard that same thing - that the faster twist rate would perform better 🤔🤔 Maybe the 24.4” barrel is more of a factor I was blown away by how well it shot. It definitely made we want to shoot the 130gr Barnes out of it, but we haven’t.
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You really have to enjoy a day at the range, thanks for sharing your results. I enjoy precision hand loading, and I’m always amazed by the groups of some factory ammo. Very impressive, be well my friends.
Some of these loads are unreal for factory!
When it comes to the Barnes ammo, I highly recommend you to try the 130 grains TTSX BT ammo.
I have found that to shoot well in many more guns than their 150 grains ammo.
When I reloaded for my now ex-wife, and her Tikka T3, I also found it easier to get good accuracy with the 130 grains TTSX BT bullet than with the 150 grains one and it also proved to be a VERY good hunting bullet, including on moose.
Very nice! I DO wish I had tried the 130 grain, but I was trying to keep them close to the same.
Nice comparison! Just be sure your barrel is clean if you’ve previously shot lead loads. This will give the copper bullets their best chance to group well.
Thanks!
Enjoyed your video. We use Barnes TTSX 130 grain in my grandson’s 308 and it’s screaming at about 3200 fps and has little recoil with a suppressor, he’s 10 years old and he loves shooting his rifle.
Now that sounds pretty awesome!
I've had good luck with Barnes LRX in 6.5 PRC.
Thank you. Good to know.
Some rifles like different bullets and hate others. Mine love Barnes . Both get under 3/4 grp. Though they hate winchester coper rounds which are around a 2 inch grp. Find what yours like, and the batch number and buy the lot of them. Otherwise youll need to handload to get your favorite bullet to shoot accurately.
You got that right!
how many grain you shoot whit the Sako Powerhead Blade? Greetings from Germany:)
Hello! Thank you for watching. That on is 162 grain.
The lighter is better theory has some validity, but it’s also important to consider down range ballistics. The lighter bullets cut through the air more poorly than a heavier, “slippery-er” bullet. For 308, think 130 grain TSX v. 168 grain TTSX. The 130 is going to be screaming but the 168 could catch up to it in velocity. For my hunting needs I believe a 150 is the sweet spot for the 308 in a copper bullet, but everyone has to crunch the numbers and see what will work for them. If only I could get the 150s to shoot well, they are all just OK at 1.25-1.5”.
That's definitely the tricky part! We've had great luck with 150gr lead, but not so much with the copper.
I’m guessing Sako did there homework before releasing that factory load, that’s fantastic groups for factory. I’m a Barnes bullet fan but I’m a reloader, not much experience with factory stuff anymore.
We were blown away!
What size scope rings are you using?
I'm pretty sure these are the medium rings. scheels.rockporch.com/prdlink/keC24xuivn
Make sure you clean you bore if you have been shooting regularly with lead bullets .
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I like that rifle, if it didn't come in a thumb hole stock. Not a fan of thumb hole stocks. Not a fan of all copper bullets either but got some federal ammo loaded with the barnes bullets to try in my 300 win mag this year. We'll see how it goes I guess.
It does have a precision style stock option I’d be interested in trying. Let us know how those loads do for you.
@@ReviewThisThing Good to know. If I can remember to do it I'll let you know how that federal ammo does.
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Did you see backfire a few weeks ago, tested the clean barrel theory for copper? Apparently it makes a huge difference in grouping. I’ve heard it before but never seen anyone test it. So the moral of the story for those watching if you have been shooting lead clean your barrel before going to copper. Also accuracy drops on copper rounds as there’s more ammo shot through it but that’s just my observation from the one video
I haven’t seen it, but a lot of people have mentioned it - and a Ron Spomer video. Good to know.
Backfire is a clickbait hack to sell views.
Mr.Mr. & Adrien- I was seeing poor results shooting copper after lead. Saw the Backfire/Spomer videos and tested it myself. It’s 100% spot on- if you want accurate monolithic results, clean your barrel extremely well then shoot the copper.
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Titanium shoulder on full display again. Its common to shoot lighter copper bullets for the increased velocity needed for expansion. At least 2000 fps at impact. Ive yet to find any factory copper that shoots well, haven't tried the sako though. Nicely done as always. Cheers
I was very impressed with this setup! Thanks so much, and thank you for watching!
What is the twist rate of the sako?
I’m pretty sure it’s 1:10.
@ReviewThisThing I did check only because euro guns are typically slower twist. It is actually 1:11. I think most american guns are 1:10. Do you think the slower twist is better for copper bullets? I couldn't believe the results you got with the g20 because I have not had anywhere near that accuracy with Sig copper in my ruger .308. I have been told many times that longer bullets require a faster twist rate, not slower and copper has to be longer because it's lighter than lead.
@johnandrosemarywyatt977 that’s definitely interesting. I’ve heard that same thing - that the faster twist rate would perform better 🤔🤔 Maybe the 24.4” barrel is more of a factor I was blown away by how well it shot. It definitely made we want to shoot the 130gr Barnes out of it, but we haven’t.
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And….you didnt answer the question in topic…bye
Perry close between the Sako and the Norma.