Old vs New: 1974 Ford Highboy vs Raptor vs Cliffhanger 2.0 Off-Road Review

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  • @TheRealGunGuyTV
    @TheRealGunGuyTV Před 5 lety +232

    Not a fair comparison. A new truck vs an old beater that has not been maintained. A good comparison would have been the new pickup vs a properly maintained old truck.

    • @stevenvertnum3708
      @stevenvertnum3708 Před 4 lety +15

      EXACTLY. It's almost like machinery that's only set for 40 years without care wouldn't work properly or something. Vs something that BRAND NEW and HAS been maintenanced

    • @robertfrazier5947
      @robertfrazier5947 Před 4 lety +9

      My boy would whip this pussy wagon

    • @wdb3110
      @wdb3110 Před 3 lety +13

      @@stevenvertnum3708, I have both a 44 year old F-150 4x4 that has been properly maintained, and a Raptor. The old one will run "circles" around the Raptor when off-road.

    • @Pedrofitbulls
      @Pedrofitbulls Před 3 lety +1

      My nasty Dana 80 4x4 wound eat him

    • @ronpackman2266
      @ronpackman2266 Před 2 lety

      @@wdb3110 sure

  • @mr.e129
    @mr.e129 Před 5 lety +334

    That Highboy is 45 years old. I doubt this Raptor will even still be running in 45 years.

    • @ElfamosoValle956
      @ElfamosoValle956 Před 5 lety +1

      Tried to blow the hair lmao

    • @paulhoskins7852
      @paulhoskins7852 Před 4 lety +33

      There won't be enough software updates to make it that long!

    • @adamgreen3716
      @adamgreen3716 Před 4 lety +12

      Will get a computer problem and wont start.

    • @patrickholt4140
      @patrickholt4140 Před 3 lety +2

      You’re right

    • @Blue_Flame_Raptor
      @Blue_Flame_Raptor Před 3 lety +9

      Nah, the gen 1 raptor is one of fords best. Extremely reliable and badass. I'll report back in 45 years because I'm never selling mine!

  • @The-Man-On-The-Mountain
    @The-Man-On-The-Mountain Před 5 lety +173

    One thing is for sure: Old ones are always way more cool and beautiful than modern ones.

  • @waybachwin1747
    @waybachwin1747 Před 3 lety +33

    3 years ago when I watched this video it made me want to get a highboy. I now own one thanks to this, and I love it more than ever!

    • @Oldskul-iz4om
      @Oldskul-iz4om Před 2 lety +2

      I'm right there with you!!
      I purchased a '75 Highboy after watching this video about a billion times, and I have never regretted my decision!! I LOVE MY HIGHBOY!!!! I can't drive that truck anywhere, without getting a thumbs up, or "I want to buy it". Ford, Chevy and Dodge fans, all give respect, and that's the way it should be!!

  • @BlueDually4x4
    @BlueDually4x4 Před 7 lety +104

    While I appreciate the concept behind this comparison.
    You should make sure the trucks are in decent working condition, like not dieing at elevation or that the battery is bolted to the damn fender. Because with those 4.10 gears in 4low that old Ford could have idled its way to the top of the mountain.

    • @joelarchuleta1814
      @joelarchuleta1814 Před 11 měsíci +1

      battery flying off lol/ that truck is capable of doing most anything if in working order.

    • @Chevy4Life350
      @Chevy4Life350 Před 4 měsíci

      My 85 chevy definetly could its got 4 low, and a granny low gear and 4.10 gears

  • @thegoldentundra3581
    @thegoldentundra3581 Před 7 lety +142

    The Highboy looks badass! Just needs work!

  • @BubbaDog001
    @BubbaDog001 Před 5 lety +134

    Driver incompetence does not speak towards the vehicles capability.

  • @shanerichardson9568
    @shanerichardson9568 Před 5 lety +29

    I was so disappointed that you didn't restore this truck before comparing them.

  • @CliffWarren
    @CliffWarren Před 7 lety +227

    A great example of why these old trucks should be restored. Don't replace that engine, rebuild it!

    • @pmonet31
      @pmonet31 Před 5 lety +2

      @Sami I agree, a great oppertunity for a 408 crate engine. Torque for days.

    • @danielanderson2030
      @danielanderson2030 Před 5 lety +5

      If I had more money, I'd have my whole pasture packed full of em... I've only got 3. 65 f250 I'm converting with highboy axles, my 67 highboy that need some body work, a carbs and tires. Then my 86 f350 cc dually 6.9 with a banks kit. Both my highboy and 86 have 4 speeds with a gesr vendor ranger torque splitter. 65 is motorless. .

    • @latenightlosers420
      @latenightlosers420 Před 5 lety +3

      @Sami as long as the blocks not cracked they can be rebuilt 😂

    • @13tucker45
      @13tucker45 Před 4 lety +1

      @Sami Are they prone to cracking blocks or something? If not then why can't they be rebuilt?

    • @karljay7473
      @karljay7473 Před 4 lety +1

      @@danielanderson2030 I have a 73 Highboy with a 4 speed and I have a Gear Vendor that I want to put on there, can you tell me where the GV sits? I called GV and they didn't have a setup for it. I was thinking it would go behind the NP205 and would only work on the back wheels. Is that the way your's works, behind the NP205?

  • @baldy194859
    @baldy194859 Před 6 lety +264

    I rather have the 4x4 shifter on the floor than those buttons !

    • @mikewells8804
      @mikewells8804 Před 5 lety +13

      Amen to that

    • @outdoorsnevada4138
      @outdoorsnevada4138 Před 5 lety +10

      Yes!

    • @davidrigdon5290
      @davidrigdon5290 Před 5 lety +10

      Hell yeah that's what I am talking about!

    • @JIMvc2
      @JIMvc2 Před 5 lety +5

      So you prefer crap over quality? Wow.

    • @billypyles212
      @billypyles212 Před 5 lety +27

      A 205 T case" floor shifter" which im sure is in that F250 is most definitely not crap, more like bullet proof. Gear to gear and cast iron housing, when they made em right

  • @1LOCKNLOAD
    @1LOCKNLOAD Před 7 lety +6

    Those old Fords are tough. I currently have a '69 F-250 390. I've also owned '70 F-250 360, '71 F-250 360, and '74 F-250 390. Great trucks.

  • @dustincraig4944
    @dustincraig4944 Před 5 lety +82

    Get a manual, 4 low granny. Crack a beer and relax...no problem.

  • @jimthorpe9291
    @jimthorpe9291 Před 5 lety +46

    What you talking ABOUT that old Ford is 10 times the truck that new street queen your driving! It just needs to be tuned !

  • @Toutvids
    @Toutvids Před 5 lety +166

    Imagine if the kid knew how to drive and the old Ford was actually well maintained.

    • @paulhoskins7852
      @paulhoskins7852 Před 4 lety +18

      Yeah, but he did well for being inexperienced!

    • @thekraken826
      @thekraken826 Před 4 lety +23

      Imagine being a prick like you!

    • @gerardomeza3335
      @gerardomeza3335 Před 4 lety +11

      He hardly can walk on rocks

    • @chriscarguy
      @chriscarguy Před 4 lety +14

      Don’t pick on the kid. Keep in mind it’s a 45 year old truck! Only few people can drive that thing perfectly. In the Raptor, I bet even a 14 year old can drive that off road

    • @brandybroome3480
      @brandybroome3480 Před 3 lety +3

      @@chriscarguy probably even an amish 14 year old could offroad in the raptor

  • @G45_Strong
    @G45_Strong Před 4 lety +8

    I like how supportive of his son he was during the entire course 💯

  • @brycebelton290
    @brycebelton290 Před 7 lety +141

    Father and son offroading! Nice!

  • @camman9235
    @camman9235 Před 7 lety +67

    74 F250s are pretty good trucks.especally when truck came fresh off the line with tall suspension

    • @jamesnm21
      @jamesnm21 Před 5 lety +3

      I would take that truck fo sho but needs a bit of work on the carb or somewhere.

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Před 7 lety +7

    That old truck did surprisingly well. Definitely sounds like that old carb could use a rebuild, and a proper anchor for that battery.

  • @a2d
    @a2d Před 7 lety +39

    Roman, I have an 8 month old son. Watching your videos with Tommy really makes me excited for all the adventures we get to go on when he's older.

    • @CARSONSCANNELL1985
      @CARSONSCANNELL1985 Před 6 lety +2

      Please upload your off road videos with your son!! I started to drive when I was 8, so, pleas start soon!! hehe

    • @bossmansal67
      @bossmansal67 Před 6 lety

      Sergio Chavez
      He said 8 months, not 8 years.

  • @1FastGXP
    @1FastGXP Před 7 lety +3

    Great job guys! Always good enjoying father and son moments. I don't think Tommy will forget 9:21 for a long time. Nice to see you there for your son Roman, backing him up.

  • @mcinkyt
    @mcinkyt Před 7 lety +33

    Comparing a new truck to a 40+ year old truck is like comparing a 70's era truck to a 1930 truck

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 Před 5 lety +12

      In many ways a 1930 truck is closer to a 74 truck than a 74 is to a 2010 truck

    • @taylorgrant23
      @taylorgrant23 Před 5 lety +3

      That’s some quick math bud

    • @jimwagner6260
      @jimwagner6260 Před 5 lety +3

      The Model T would still climb that Hill

    • @wyattnyfeler7270
      @wyattnyfeler7270 Před 3 lety

      @@johnkendall6962 not an early 30s truck those still had open cabs and 30 hp engines maybe by the late 30s the technology had become comparable

  • @heelirl6370
    @heelirl6370 Před 5 lety +15

    So......rebuild the motor and transmission, new transfer case, new gears, front and rear air lockers, steering upgrades and you're good to go with the old truck. Still cheaper than the raptor and more fun.

    • @stevecraig4827
      @stevecraig4827 Před rokem

      Maybe just a tune up and adjust the carb and tie down the battery

  • @MDC2020
    @MDC2020 Před 7 lety +55

    Weak. You two under estimate that F250.

  • @austinhennington5440
    @austinhennington5440 Před 6 lety +191

    This is pathetic. The kid doesn't have a clue how to drive a carburated truck! If it's set right like all 3 of our 70s ford's are, they will idle in gear and fore on the first crank. They made the old Ford out to be this charity case when in reality that old Ford will take more of a beating that that plastic raptor will.

    • @JonathanWJ
      @JonathanWJ Před 5 lety +20

      go step outside and manually lock your hubs, dumb boomer

    • @haywire17
      @haywire17 Před 5 lety +29

      Although a bit harshly worded, I mostly agree. I'm pretty sure even "1970s technology" came with well-made battery hold-down brackets (sturdy bolts!)...and although those engines did not make the horsepower OR fuel economy numbers the new stuff does, with properly tuned carb, that truck should've started easily, and practically IDLED to the top of that hill with all 4 wheels spinning in 4 LOW... If you don't know how to work on an older carb'ed engine, find someone who does, and try again, please... Looked like a good job driving though, but you were dealing with a poorly running engine, Tommy! (BTW - even with the rust, the old truck has appeal to me over the new one!)

    • @leomonster1973
      @leomonster1973 Před 5 lety +18

      @@haywire17 BTW - even with the rust, the old truck has appeal to me over the new one! Me too.. PS that Raptor in 40 years will have been in the Junk yard for 20 years...While that 74 will still be somebody's toy

    • @bradleekraft833
      @bradleekraft833 Před 5 lety +10

      would also much rather own the older one lot less to go wrong for instance that electrics shift nob fails your dead in the water

    • @ImNotT10
      @ImNotT10 Před 5 lety +5

      Varnce that’s literally not how you spell it💀

  • @muechelmoerder
    @muechelmoerder Před 6 lety +11

    There's something to be said about properly maintaining a vehicle no matter how old. Having a proper factory battery tie down, knowing how to rebuild/tune a carburetor, making sure all caps are on tight; these are all things the son should know how to do in the future.

  • @08DodgeRamHemi
    @08DodgeRamHemi Před 7 lety +30

    I'd like to see the original Power Wagon vs the 2017 Power Wagon

    • @tommyscovel8841
      @tommyscovel8841 Před 5 lety +1

      They kwit building REAL FACTORY 4X4s in the late 70's. They just kept getting weaker and weaker from then on. This SHIT they have been building over the last 30 or so years can't hold a candle to the old school machines. And the kicker is that they could build machines far better then the old school machines if it were not for just one little thing, GREED!!!

  • @Pohnees
    @Pohnees Před 5 lety +74

    this is literally just a raptor fanboy dissing an older unprepared truck & driver the entire video

    • @Madmaxxxx1984
      @Madmaxxxx1984 Před 5 lety +3

      umad? true...sadly

    • @stevenvertnum3708
      @stevenvertnum3708 Před 4 lety +2

      It's almost like something that has done nothing but set and rust isn't as prepared as a brand new anything that's maintenanced. Huh, wonder what was wrong with it.

    • @deborahchesser7375
      @deborahchesser7375 Před 4 lety

      umad? They should have tuned the 74 up that’s bullshit how stupid

    • @swashington942
      @swashington942 Před 4 lety

      Yes and he's doing a good job of it. Calm down soy boy quit getting so butthurt

  • @BakerRacing
    @BakerRacing Před 5 lety +11

    I love the Raptor but that old High Boy looks so cool!!

  • @roadking8337
    @roadking8337 Před 5 lety +118

    Wtf kid has no clue how the even drive the. Old ford. Realy. Put a farm boy in it.

    • @scarhart53
      @scarhart53 Před 4 lety +6

      And you have no clue how to speak or write.

    • @knuckleberry4720
      @knuckleberry4720 Před 4 lety

      @David Tucker you have no clue on life

    • @knuckleberry4720
      @knuckleberry4720 Před 4 lety +8

      @David Tucker that is not junker that a good truck that needs love it will be around long after that raptor

    • @knuckleberry4720
      @knuckleberry4720 Před 4 lety +1

      @David Tucker that truck needs better tires carb work a cam and 4:10 gears with a locker in back

    • @isaaccastro5866
      @isaaccastro5866 Před 4 lety

      Bolens69 69bolens thats not a kid 😂

  • @alraybaca6235
    @alraybaca6235 Před 5 lety +43

    I'm just 3 minutes and 42 seconds into the video and I choose the 1974 highboy No matter the results of this video

  • @stevencsawyerss
    @stevencsawyerss Před 7 lety +17

    I really appreciate and enjoy the old vs new reviews. Great job on both Trucks, my heart goes out to the highboy. I had a 76F-100, straight six and three on the tree, manual steering and no AC. It did have an AM radio. I miss that Truck. Thanks guys for a fun reveiw! :-)

    • @marcbenedict3676
      @marcbenedict3676 Před 6 lety +1

      my first truck was 1987 f150 with the 302 v8 and a 4 speed manual with a granny gear. it still starts and runs fine after parking because i have since upgraded, but i am keeping it forever with hopes one day to drop a bigger engine and stronger transmission into it and restore the outside to it's original glory

    • @robertgammett8718
      @robertgammett8718 Před 5 lety

      My first truck was aged truck was a 1985 f-250, had a 360 c6tranny with no overdrive lmao. I loved that truck but I couldn’t afford to completely fix it.

  • @petehaselden9861
    @petehaselden9861 Před 6 lety +24

    inexperienced driver vs father, newish truck vs poorly maintained pickup. Condition being the same, as well as driver I would put my money on the highboy. Especially in case of a breakdown.

  • @dalejones9652
    @dalejones9652 Před 7 lety +12

    Great job Tommy! That is one fine truck you have, and I hope you are able one day to put it all back like new. I really enjoy your enthusiasm and your youthful optimism. I hope you and your Dad cherish every moment you have together. Thanks for the continuing entertainment and can't wait to see what you do to transform "Rustyboy" into "Kick Raptor Butt. (KRB)"

  • @mattkelly534
    @mattkelly534 Před 6 lety +149

    The 1974 Ford high boy is 1000 times better then all the brand new JUNK trucks . old school all the way , these new vehicle's are all junk

    • @handheldgarage3297
      @handheldgarage3297 Před 5 lety +16

      In 40 years the '74 will still be going, but will the Raptor still be going?

    • @Larcona_
      @Larcona_ Před 5 lety +6

      That's funny... Not like the new ones are better in every quantifiable way or anything.

    • @johnjones4096
      @johnjones4096 Před 5 lety +6

      You must not have actually watched the video the 74 highboy barely ran, shake rattle and stall all the way. The 4wheel drive failed at first, the battery rattled loose, it smoked like a 2 stroke.

    • @jamessawchuk5682
      @jamessawchuk5682 Před 5 lety +6

      They needed to run one that was better maintained. Remember, Big Foot was a 1970's era 4x4. And he kicked major ass.

    • @xgamerbih
      @xgamerbih Před 5 lety +5

      yep.... I think the same... I would NEVER buy something newer than 2005.. NEVER

  • @dougmoore6612
    @dougmoore6612 Před 6 lety +1

    I’m really enjoying the ‘74 F250 videos. We have a ‘74 F100 short cab, short bed, 4WD, 4 spd manual that we are currently rebuilding in our driveway. It’s the wife’s truck and it is so much fun to drive. I’m a plane mechanic myself. So it’s getting the full treatment now that the engine finally died. When it’s back together and kicking ass next year I’ll get some video of it off-road.

  • @acephantom903
    @acephantom903 Před 7 lety +24

    "It has factory limited slip" It might have a factory limited slip but unless you replaced it in the past 30k miles which I doubt, it isn't a limited slip any more.

    • @israelduncan4341
      @israelduncan4341 Před rokem

      I'm curious what you mean by that? If the fluid hasn't been changed or flushed then both tires will spin?

    • @acephantom903
      @acephantom903 Před rokem +1

      @@israelduncan4341 The fluid is an oil with an additive to assist in the clutch pads engaging. If the fluid wears out, the clutch pads will not engage or not engage well. Only one tire will spin as if it were a standard open differential.

    • @israelduncan4341
      @israelduncan4341 Před rokem +1

      @@acephantom903 O okay I see what you're saying and I apologize I'm not very mechanically inclined but engines and trucks have always been fascinating to me, I thought you meant that after 30K the fluid and metal shavings in the differential would be so thick it makes the truck more of a positrack goes to show that idk what I'm talking about haha. Anyway I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me.

  • @slrs3908
    @slrs3908 Před 7 lety +19

    PLEASE do a little maintenance! Please! How embarrassing.

  • @kevincollins9731
    @kevincollins9731 Před 5 lety +3

    Notice the F250 needed some love but did everything ya'll ask of it . Those are great trucks just need to love it some !!!!

  • @Numbahz
    @Numbahz Před 7 lety

    Reminds me of the days my dad used to take his suburban random off roading, bouncing all over the place. Pretty awesome experience u guys get to share as well.

  • @WpgRedRider
    @WpgRedRider Před 7 lety

    Awesome episode. Looks like a lot of fun! Thanks for all you cover TFLTtruck!

  • @sofakingtouge2399
    @sofakingtouge2399 Před 7 lety +71

    watching this kind of confirms something I've been thinking for awhile. cars from the 90s are the best. Seems after 2000 the technology got out of control.
    90s you had fuel injection, solid axles, ac, and not having to get out to lock the hubs.
    newer stuff, to many parts to break, solid axles seem to have disappeared.

    • @sofakingtouge2399
      @sofakingtouge2399 Před 7 lety +1

      Alex Kochan thanks captain obvious.

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 Před 7 lety +2

      If you want a solid front axle, all you need to do is go drop 40k on a 3/4 ton Dodge or Ford. Both have solid front axles and coil springs. Or just go get a Jeep Wrangler.

    • @sofakingtouge2399
      @sofakingtouge2399 Před 7 lety

      BlueDually4x4 or just walk out to my driveway and get in the jeep.

    • @fread51
      @fread51 Před 7 lety +10

      Cars from the 90's are no way better than the cars of 2000

    • @sofakingtouge2399
      @sofakingtouge2399 Před 7 lety +2

      billy heaton if you are in Texas I go rally racing almost every weekend. I'm more then happy to be proven wrong. come on down.

  • @coolmg7482
    @coolmg7482 Před 6 lety +11

    The old truck need Just a better driver., but sounds like a good kid.

  • @eddiej9733
    @eddiej9733 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice father son bond. And you guys are laid back and just... normal and great vids

  • @mattolsack2527
    @mattolsack2527 Před 7 lety +3

    Man I just love Fords, great video tfl! that highboy needs some to, can't wait to see that thing restored a little more

  • @mikszekely1224
    @mikszekely1224 Před 5 lety +6

    It's a good thing Dad was there to tell him to switch it to 4wheel.... Or he'd still be on that hill

  • @markrich3271
    @markrich3271 Před 6 lety +8

    Why not jet the carb for the proper altitude ?

  • @banshee511
    @banshee511 Před 7 lety +1

    love the old vs. new reviews. And Tommy is great. Keep us updated on the highboy.

  • @marcbenedict3676
    @marcbenedict3676 Před 6 lety

    looked like an amazing time with your dad. enjoy it while it lasts. i miss mine everyday and we used to do stuff like this all the time

  • @bubbamiller1182
    @bubbamiller1182 Před 7 lety +8

    That old truck great for being 40 years old.

  • @cliffsta87337
    @cliffsta87337 Před 7 lety +7

    Y'all gotta do something with that highboy. The motor is shot and the body has rotted away...

  • @jasperbowers2860
    @jasperbowers2860 Před 5 lety +2

    You know why the f250 wasn't as good as the 2018 Raptor, because back in the 70's, truck we're made for work not to climb mountains.

  • @tomclark6271
    @tomclark6271 Před 5 lety +1

    My '73 E300 has nearly 600,000 miles on it, bought it new, and maintained by me. 302v8, little c4 tranny that I rebuilt myself, married to a cast iron Dana 20, married to a Gearvender overdrive on an adapter that I built myself. Warn winch and massive bumper with a trailer hitch on the front, disk brakes and 4:11 gears, manual locking hubs. Oh yeah, it's a van, so I camp in it too. I've replaced the solenoids and electric shift motors on many Ford pickups and SUVs, and would never own one myself. BTW... Friends don't let friends drive Cheys.

  • @jessiefayne4083
    @jessiefayne4083 Před 5 lety +8

    Wouldn't have had half those issues if he'd have gone over the truck before he tried to take it through the f****** mountains it's not like that was a real bad Trail it was a cakewalk

  • @jimmypics1570
    @jimmypics1570 Před 7 lety +4

    LMAO. "PARTS ARE FLYING OFF" That was GREAT!!!!

  • @djcutlas1976
    @djcutlas1976 Před 5 lety +1

    This was a great watch I literally told my wife today I continue to keep our 2000 Expedition running because that's kind of last of the Mohicans!!! Out of all the SUVs on our street ours is one that never ever get stuck and anything all the others do!!! I also had an 86 Suburban that I wish I never beat to death that was also a great vehicle

  • @347mav3
    @347mav3 Před 5 lety +2

    No way will the Raptor or any modern truck be running and holding up like the 74.

  • @ethancooper9567
    @ethancooper9567 Před 6 lety +4

    It clearly says ranger on the 1974 ford

  • @HoosierDaddy_
    @HoosierDaddy_ Před 7 lety +109

    More please! Great old truck. Cmon FORD. Hook rusty boy up with a great new engine!

    • @fr3ddywr0ng31
      @fr3ddywr0ng31 Před 7 lety +2

      Hook this truck up with a new engine

    • @stevenvanheel3932
      @stevenvanheel3932 Před 7 lety +6

      Brad Conklin how about hook him up with a decent tune up? The carb is obviously screwed on that thing, and the engine would run a lot better with a decently tuned carb.

    • @russcarneyjr2473
      @russcarneyjr2473 Před 7 lety

      I agree build a old BB 390 with heads cam and pistons to match all. builid it around 450-495 HP. with about 560ftlbs of torque. Then just have fun while it lasts, meaning about 12 minutes.

    • @camman9235
      @camman9235 Před 7 lety +2

      The carburator in 74 f250 may just need the timing adjusted.

    • @HoosierDaddy_
      @HoosierDaddy_ Před 7 lety +1

      Steven Vanheel. Ya, but on the earlier episodes they showed the camshaft has one lobe completely down to round and the pushrod was bent. It was band aided together, that's why I'm saying that. I'm a Ford technician. I'm not against it being a Ford.

  • @documentation2134
    @documentation2134 Před 6 lety +2

    Time to get out the rust converter and fiberglass for the 1974 truck, 1974 was awesome btw

  • @burncrash0570
    @burncrash0570 Před 7 lety +1

    Im 3 2 i mean

  • @hollowaang5284
    @hollowaang5284 Před 7 lety +85

    They're both V8's so I love both truck's.

    • @chrisnabours720
      @chrisnabours720 Před 7 lety +6

      Tommy Hammond I feel you on that. V8 engines will provide more torque. The high boy needs front and back lockers though. Limited Slip is still better than open diffs.

    • @footbalr074
      @footbalr074 Před 7 lety +11

      "V8 engines will provide more torque" except not really
      3.5 v6 makes much more torque (at lower rpm's) than its 5.0 counterpart, even the 6.2 they put in that gen of raptors
      the 300 i6 that served along side the 302 v8 for years again provided more torque at lower rpm's
      with that said those old fe engines where monsters for the time and great motors
      I have nothing against v8's or old trucks but lets stop with these autistic "i like muh v8's for the torque and powah" arguments

    • @tomsfruitstand6821
      @tomsfruitstand6821 Před 7 lety +3

      footbalr074 many things go into torque and horsepower. Stroke, bore, etc. the 300 was just a l6 but had a fairly long stroke. The 5.0 was a v8 but had a larger bore and shorter stroke, so it could rev higher and make more horsepower but not as much torque.

    • @ccanaves
      @ccanaves Před 7 lety +8

      A diesel would climb that hill just idling :D

    • @footbalr074
      @footbalr074 Před 7 lety

      Butt hurt eh?
      You're a giant hypocrite.

  • @tomwolf4609
    @tomwolf4609 Před 5 lety +3

    Put a real driver in the hiboy ..my father inlaw and myself did that kind of stuff with our f250s once a month in the 80s.we even went places so steep we chained up the front end on dry ground..put me in that truck!

  • @chrislaney8861
    @chrislaney8861 Před 7 lety +13

    Awesome video guys! Can't wait to see Big Green vs Colorado ZR2!

  • @JamesBond-jk1ns
    @JamesBond-jk1ns Před 5 lety +4

    Those off-road tracks are our ordinary roads.....

  • @Bayan1905
    @Bayan1905 Před 7 lety +12

    First off, Tommy needs a little more time off road, two, get Tommy some money to scrap the carb on that motor. I have a 74 F-100 with a 390 and the factory carb and it starts so much better than that. I put a Pertonix ignition in it, took out the points and went with a better distributor. Pump the gas a couple times and she fires up almost immediately. His should be doing the same. Get a different box and some engine mods and that 74 will wipe the floor with the Raptor and you'll be doing it for so much less money.

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 Před 5 lety +1

      Another think if i'm out in the wilderness with only basic hand tools i can fix the old truck not so much the raptor.

  • @AnthonySvt_
    @AnthonySvt_ Před 7 lety +14

    You guys gotta rebuild the High Boys engine before it goes and bends more push rods. And might as well throw forged internals and build the motor

    • @AnthonySvt_
      @AnthonySvt_ Před 7 lety +2

      And might ass well 4 link the truck throw some Fox or King coilovers on it get rid of the body lift and put an actual suspension lift

    • @chrisadkins602
      @chrisadkins602 Před 7 lety

      Might as well build something worth a damn for it. The 360 was never a great motor. A nice 351M build would wake that truck up nicely

    • @1LOCKNLOAD
      @1LOCKNLOAD Před 7 lety +2

      @Chris Adkins Are you crazy? I've owned 2 360"s and 2 390's. That 352 block is awesome FE. I love the 351, but no need to dis the 360.

    • @elijahbrown7692
      @elijahbrown7692 Před 7 lety +2

      Chris Adkins. oh wow someone doesnt know there history lol. they took those 360's and put them in javalins to race on the tracks because of how fast they were. ford had no idea at first. so then they took them out started dumping 390's in the later model trucks. and btw an M? everyone knows the 351 is best with a W behind it, NOT a C or .....M......lol.well now your sorta up to speed. all thats left is bringing what you got and a pink slip and lets hookem up. 75' custom 250 highboy. all origional. Im waiting...

    • @steelheadhunter1
      @steelheadhunter1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@chrisadkins602 um 351m motors are gutless boat anchors. Trust me I've owned 3 of them. The 400m motors were a little better but if you want a real motor, hook up a 460. They bolt right up to the 351/400m bellhousing.

  • @Pattfahey
    @Pattfahey Před 7 lety +3

    New camera equipment? The quality is great!

  • @gregstevenson525
    @gregstevenson525 Před 5 lety +3

    Maintain your vehicle. I have a 1979 f150 custom ,(stock) that is equal to the Rapter you are driving. Driver equalizes the outcome. Older is better

  • @aussiedrifter
    @aussiedrifter Před 5 lety +8

    I still prefer the Tall Boy as I have owned 3 of them & driven properly they will haul the mail. Not wishing to be critical but the young
    bloke need's to learn how to drive properly & stop acting like a big girl & over dramatizing everything, as they do.

    • @jegr3398
      @jegr3398 Před 4 lety

      Well I guess this is a good experience for him then, hopefully he learned from it 👍

  • @Mascotal
    @Mascotal Před 5 lety +4

    SOOOOOOOO! I would love to see how well the raptor does, 44 years from now.

    • @DangerousDaedric
      @DangerousDaedric Před 3 lety

      I have an 83 f150 that would take that hill great and show that raptor some real balls

  • @TREX3151
    @TREX3151 Před 7 lety +7

    Good job Tommy. Starting to like that old truck!

  • @colbypride2268
    @colbypride2268 Před 5 lety +4

    See what that thing looks like in 40 yrs

  • @stevenquere8243
    @stevenquere8243 Před 7 lety +4

    I think that Rusty Boy's engine should be rebuilt then fuel injected like Big Green.

  • @metapatriot
    @metapatriot Před 6 lety +10

    Top Tip: the least you can do is the minimum amount of maintenance and have the old truck running properly before you send your son up steep rocky road while your driving 80,000 dollar toy...nice going cheese!

  • @mixrmandd
    @mixrmandd Před 7 lety +13

    My God the kid is so far out of his comfort zone it makes me feel sorry for him.........dad must have missed confidence 101 entirely

    • @billholt174
      @billholt174 Před 6 lety +5

      mixrmandd -- I thought similarly. It seems an awful lot like his dad has babied him. It's genuine affection, but it's misguided. Mold a man out of your son, don't make a marshmallow. I expect to see a Teddy Bear riding shotgun with Tommy, but then again, I was impressed to see him driving Big Green.

    • @robertgammett8718
      @robertgammett8718 Před 5 lety +4

      Or you know, he’s his own man. He has a 74 going up hill, that’s pretty badass

    • @adventuresofwillandshelby6013
      @adventuresofwillandshelby6013 Před 4 lety

      Robert Gammett he couldn’t adjust the carb issue though

  • @ledzeppelin27
    @ledzeppelin27 Před 7 lety +9

    man, you guys are just dedicated to blowing up that high boy's engine

    • @chrisadkins602
      @chrisadkins602 Před 7 lety

      Its a 360 i would be too. One of Fords worst engines ever

    • @1LOCKNLOAD
      @1LOCKNLOAD Před 7 lety +3

      Bull crap. 5.4L is the worst.

    • @slrs3908
      @slrs3908 Před 7 lety +3

      Isn't a Ford 360 just a (slightly) smaller version of the Ford 390, which is one of Fords best engines ever?

    • @1LOCKNLOAD
      @1LOCKNLOAD Před 7 lety +3

      Yes, the 360, 390, and 428 all came from the FE 352 block. Different stroke. I've got a 390 in a 1969 F-250. Great motor.

    • @brandonthornsberry280
      @brandonthornsberry280 Před 6 lety +3

      Chris Adkins... horse shit ..

  • @tmanthekid4396
    @tmanthekid4396 Před 7 lety +5

    Put a locker in the rear of the f250

    • @jessupblackmoore1600
      @jessupblackmoore1600 Před 5 lety +2

      Front and rear an the only thing that could stop it would be the driver

  • @SteveConsigny
    @SteveConsigny Před 7 lety +10

    Great Video...Tommy did great, seems like a nice young man. Don't listen to the negative Nellies.

  • @MCatwar
    @MCatwar Před 7 lety +3

    I'm not much of a ford guy, buy i have a soft spot for the dentside. you *NEED* to put a better engine in it and give the body some TLC. or, you could keep driving it as is and wait for the thing to blow up on you.

  • @TheHutchmaster
    @TheHutchmaster Před 5 lety +3

    Great videos but this kid is afraid of his own god damn shadow lmao

  • @K4Lgames
    @K4Lgames Před 7 lety +30

    kid needs efi come on man your sending him up shits creek without a paddle. keep you head up tommy a little more camera time youll adjust more to it. To everyone who is giving this kid hate
    1.) hes doing pretty damm good off-road with what he has
    2.) he not only has to not let down his old man in the hill climb but 346k people who would just rip on him
    3.) its not his channel and its father son bonding if you dont want to see him in the video dont watch it you knew he was going to be in from the first 5 seconds of watching

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 Před 7 lety +9

      Agreed, if that old Ford had some TLC before, he would have done everything the Raptor did. With less worrying about mashing the truck's belly on a rock.

    • @K4Lgames
      @K4Lgames Před 7 lety

      amen brother

  • @philtripe
    @philtripe Před 7 lety +26

    bring a good FIRE EXTINGUISHER for when that death trap bursts into flames

    • @yomomma6492
      @yomomma6492 Před 7 lety +1

      phil tripe you mean extra gasoline so it will burn faster.

    • @paulmccallum4229
      @paulmccallum4229 Před 7 lety +2

      The Raptors not that bad!

    • @______3597
      @______3597 Před 6 lety

      phil tripe are you talking about a Chevy or a dodge??

  • @headcas620
    @headcas620 Před 7 lety +3

    Rusty boy is bad ass.

  • @corycoulter5140
    @corycoulter5140 Před 7 lety +7

    The old girl needs a new engine

    • @foellerd
      @foellerd Před 7 lety

      Cory Coulter They mentioned putting a crate engine in all the classic trucks and competing of each company will pay for it. RustyBoy, big green, RustyBoy, and Mr Trucks dodge. Would be epic, all engines at this age are pretty old to be taking abuse in my opinion. I only trust Toyotas and Hondas off road with my life when they are that old, lol.

    • @derrickking8586
      @derrickking8586 Před 6 lety +1

      Come on dad your son is a neard

    • @ethanhurl8202
      @ethanhurl8202 Před 5 lety +1

      No it just needs rebuilt

  • @abrahamreyes7282
    @abrahamreyes7282 Před 5 lety +3

    Si es mucho mejor la nueva
    Pero si la quieres para trabajo y tengas que subir siempre así
    Aguanta más la viejita
    Subela a raja madre muchas veces y me dices cuál aguanto más 😂

  • @rockycadieux4642
    @rockycadieux4642 Před 7 lety +3

    Where's big green?

  • @Welcometofacsistube
    @Welcometofacsistube Před 7 lety +53

    Not a ford fan but waaaayyyyy better than any Toyota junk hey Guy?

    • @DiscoMan
      @DiscoMan Před 7 lety +11

      Kristopher Klassen doubt it

    • @jakerton97
      @jakerton97 Před 7 lety +6

      Kristopher Klassen my 99 tacoma would eat that shit up

    • @fread51
      @fread51 Před 7 lety +2

      LOLtoyrta truck ain't shit overrated frat boy trucks glad i sold mine and bought an F250 4X4

    • @AnthonySvt_
      @AnthonySvt_ Před 7 lety +2

      billy heaton 350 HP is an big ass overstatement my Brother in law has a brand new Tacoma and it has 290 Crank HP

    • @guyproulx4893
      @guyproulx4893 Před 7 lety +4

      Kristopher Klassen yeah i guess having a truck that will actually last without any issues like that pos isn't desirable.

  • @lrizo3841
    @lrizo3841 Před 7 lety +54

    I'd take the old Ford over that Craptor any day..

    • @fread51
      @fread51 Před 7 lety +10

      LOL what a foolish comment you would fix that every 100 miles its' a 74

    • @justinpilon7330
      @justinpilon7330 Před 7 lety +6

      i agree with L Rizo old truck are better, i could care less if i need to fix them its enjoyable

    • @lrizo3841
      @lrizo3841 Před 7 lety +1

      I'm thinking a Cummins swapped..

    • @lrizo3841
      @lrizo3841 Před 7 lety +2

      billy heaton Its not what you buy, its what you build.

    • @johnnyasus86
      @johnnyasus86 Před 7 lety +3

      L Rizo I'll take an old Chevy over a old ford

  • @shadrachattack1475
    @shadrachattack1475 Před 5 lety +1

    Quality Father-Son time. Not many things can compare to that. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ianmcnair5060
    @ianmcnair5060 Před 7 lety +2

    Just saw that Ram advertises winning a Gold Hitch Award from you guys on their website, pretty awesome!

  • @nonrevhogan8938
    @nonrevhogan8938 Před 7 lety +1

    Can't get enough of this video. One of my favorites. Moab is cool too but this hill is so awesome. Really shows what a vehicle can do. That so cool that you all live so close to all of those places. I get a little mountain back roads in Shenandoah but not like you all get out there. Can't wait to explore out there one day. Nice job Tommy! Rusty Boy will kill Dare after some power train work. That is a great truck. Wish I could do more cool stuff with my son Roman. TFL Truck the best.

  • @Boborino
    @Boborino Před 7 lety

    I want to personally apologize to you Tommy for all the 12 year olds getting salty about you joining TFL. You are hilarious, obviously have the same love of vehicles your Dad does, and the knowledge to boot. Sure you make mistakes, but you're human just like us all; besides are humble and learn from them which is a trait more people should have. You are a great addition to TFL and Keep up the great work. Oh and nice truck!

  • @Pje3ski
    @Pje3ski Před 3 lety

    Enjoyed the video. Love seeing the old truck get up there. Good driving Tommy.

  • @gabrielstippler1646
    @gabrielstippler1646 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the content guys! A few words of cheap skate advice for the Rusty Boy. Ratchet strap the battery down. Richen or lean out the mixture on your carb by running some different jets to compensate for altitude, the mileage is already crap--might as well make it run right.

  • @ratman5727
    @ratman5727 Před 7 lety

    What a cool episode! I was unaware they were father and son, but now I definitely see the resemblance!

  • @kyleh3615
    @kyleh3615 Před 5 lety +2

    My uncle had a 78 150 4x4 that he took up a local hill not too diffrent than this one in the 80s when he was teying to impress a girl.
    Battery came loose and took out the alternator and the fan.
    Always secure your battery

    • @deo1011
      @deo1011 Před 5 lety

      I've seen the exact thing happen in a 79 bronco. Battery got chopped up by the fan. Fortunately just the battery was damaged.

  • @never2late454
    @never2late454 Před 5 lety +1

    As someone who owns a 2012 F150 4x4 and a 1976 Ford 4x4 I actually prefer off roading if the 76 than the newer truck. The 2012 is more comfortable but it's just not as fun. Somehow the turning of a knob to engage all 4 wheels doesn't give me the confidence as the 76 does.

    • @killerklown6905
      @killerklown6905 Před 5 lety

      4x4 knob if you cant activate there are 100 things that could be the issue with a floor shifter you know when it's in and when it's not and it's much more fun!

  • @jarrettjones4140
    @jarrettjones4140 Před 5 lety

    Knowing how to operate your machinery is also key lol. Gotta get a little western with the transfer case because it's all gears. Don't worry about the grinding it happens

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 Před 7 lety

    Great vid! Looking foward to lots of ZR2 content soon.

  • @TheStwat
    @TheStwat Před 7 lety

    Great episode guys, loved it.