Core i9 14900KS vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D - Test in 10 Games
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs Core i9 14900KS l 1080p
Buy Ryzen 7 7800X3D at newegg.com - bit.ly/43e3VxW
Buy Core i9 14900KS at newegg.com - bit.ly/43nHy9P
Games :
Resident Evil 4 - 0:00
Call of Duty: Warzone - 0:53
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 1:59
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 3:18
Starfield - 4:25
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:29 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Forza Horizon 5 - 6:45 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:56 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Remnant 2 - 8:54
The Witcher 3 - 9:48 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-14900KS - bit.ly/43nHy9P
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
CPU Cooler - MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360 - bit.ly/3mOVgiy
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj - Hry
Games :
Resident Evil 4 - 0:00
Call of Duty: Warzone - 0:53
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 1:59
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 3:18
Starfield - 4:25
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:29 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Forza Horizon 5 - 6:45 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:56 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Remnant 2 - 8:54
The Witcher 3 - 9:48 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-14900KS - bit.ly/43nHy9P
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
CPU Cooler - MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360 - bit.ly/3mOVgiy
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
What's more impressive are the temps, they are very respectable.
well yeah when you cripple the wattage going to the processor.... My 14700K draws more power than that.
Oh so that's what they are doing.@@kamelionify
You sure this was tested on 1080p with 4090? I just checked witcher 3. The FPS was minimum 200FPS
That cpu power consumption of 7800x3d 😮
The key is: Tsmc. Not shit crap intel.
Literally half, insane !
@@furieux6742 Tsmc will produce a mobile cpus for intel. Intel just cant compete anymore.
7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder.
instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.
@@notenjoying666 No, they only produce a part of Intel's CPU, most of the parts are manufactured by Intel on the 7 nm process and the rest is processed by tsmc on the 5 nm or 3 nm process, it's not like Intel can't compete with them. AMD is just stuck with 10 nm because there are still too many undeveloped DUV machines to break even on investment. If they give up self-production or their first chips will be processed by tsmc, then AMD will be the loser. have trouble
370€ vs 730€
83W vs 210W
Intel fell asleep for 10 years
CPU isn't only made for gaming
@@willy7968 then there's the 7950X3D
@@willy7968 go on, reply to the 2nd comment - we are waiting for you. ;)
@@shuyaku99 lol i've heard that 7950x is better than x3d version hahaha, not because it have x3d at the end means it is faster haha x3d is super hot haha
less wattage > less heat > smaller rad or aio > even cheaper ( and no overheat issue like 14 gen )
just look at the power consumption of these two processors....
and this is me lowering the voltage on the i9 some more.
the electricity bill will be expensive this month
HOW THE FUCK DOES RE4 MAKE THE CPUS GO ALL THE WAY TO 270W
GPUS*@@flamingophone
@@flamingophone thats the gpu lmaoo
Wow! Crazy difference!! 😮
The Ryzen 7 7800x3d is also half the price and trades blows with the i9
The price is realy the issue. That said, the i9 is better for productivity tasks... If the i9 was cheaper, we would have a debate on which one is better. I'm sure some people would go for the i9 for PCs they use for gaming and work.
It doesn't. 14900KS will gain 25-30% more with fast ring/tight ddr5 ram. It's undoubtedly faster than 7800x3d in every single way. 7800x3d for normal gamers, 14900KS for people wanting the absolute fastest.
😂😂 Yeah right, Intel fanboy@@HeartOfAdel
@@HeartOfAdel Hardcore copium. 14900ks not getting even 10% increase with faster memory than this. U r literally lying here.
@@notenjoying666 you have no clue what memory/ring tune does on Intel lol. It shows how clueless masses are about overclocking.
It's a generational leap in performance. It scales like crazy.
I only have an example with 9900KS on my channel with bdie, but 14900KS has exactly identical sensitivity if not better.
The fact that 7800x3d consumes less than 60-80% of power while performing the same if not better says everything you need to know 💀
The Ryzen 7 actually lost for perfomance, it does have the efficency advantage.
The problem with the i9 are the bad voltages and bad scheduling while gaming (Hardware Unboxed showed gaming perfomance and efficency increasing by a lot with APO).
@@saricubra2867 7800x3d is 3% faster than 14900KS on average.
82 Watts vs 212 is madness 🫣
Power consumption is crazy but the 7800x3d lost in most the games...
@@saricubra2867 how bad this aged now people have to use different bios settings to keep ther systems Stable with a Intel 13th and 14th gen so they lose up to 11% performance. Intel is just a joke they take so much money for ther products and from 2010 - 2018 they was bussy scaming people with high prices, without AMD and Radeon we will sit here with 4cores 8 threads for 400 or 600$
4:50
AMD = 83W
INTEL = 210
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
and dont forget the usage 80% vs 50%. 210 actually half of the max consumption. thats madness :D
Intel al 100% una refrigeración de auto sino se quema o baja potencia consumiendo más de 300 watts una locura
fact)@@umityldrm6355
@@umityldrm6355Based on news, the intel i9 14900ks draws 400W on full load...
@@PanchoGDMKWii isn't 450 Watt under a full load!
4:41 damn that i9 is drawing 212 watts
Absolutely disgusting.
E cores my butt.
It's not even doing anything to save power!!!
Yeah 5$ more if you play 10h/day and 30days/month. So in 100 months you will save money for new proc. Logic of AMDeep guys 💪🤦♂️🤣
@@catalinneculita4988 go back to school! you failed math!
@@ICRA7EDamdeeper detected :))
7 7800X3D undoubtedly the best gaming cpu.
I kinda regret not buying it but i already have 5800X3D in my PC from last year. I think ill be alright a few more years
@@Ladioz If you already got that one, you don't need to upgrade for now.
AMD lose - 0.1% 1% . You're too stupid to call the 7800X3D the best gaming CPU today.
However 14900KS can work with high speed DDR5, upto 8000MHz, so it's better to test it with 7600+MHz memory, Ryzen can't work with it.
@@Ladiozyou are good for next 7 years
Ryzen has half the power consumption while maintaining the same fps
And half the price
@@anonymgamer3416 and generates half the heat, it will be easy to cool summer time and costs less in electricity...
The i9 is also running over a 1000mhz higher frequency also 😂
@@ogen87 Please rewatch the video, the temperatures are roughly the same.
@@MarkoMood That's not what they're talking about. Generating heat is not the same as being hot. The power consumption is proportional to how much heat it generates
Nice. I was looking for a ~250w room heater for under $800.
I always forgot that Intel still stuck at 10nm and decided to rename it to Intel 7 instead.
It's okay Intel, take your time.
LOL better than calling it 10nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
maybe still 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++@@frederickspeller8117
@@frederickspeller8117 intel on 10nm beating AMDs 5nm LMAO that's true circus. AMD wouldn't even touch intel on 5nm 🤣
@@AdiiS the copium is hard
@@AdiiS Wow. I have never seen someone as delusional as you.
70W vs 170W
nono dude 80 vs 200 watt xd
85W vs 210W lmao
4800mhz x 5900! I downgraded to 5ghz (x50) my i9 14900k consumes 80w totally unnecessary 6 ghz
7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder.
instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.
More cache doesn't immediately Translate to better performance.
Intel's cache is literally laid out flat on the CCD, making its physical contact farther away from CPU cores-especially P Cores.
AMD's Cache is stacked on top of main CCD cores. Making its physical contact distance shorter. Shorter distance alone already making huge difference in IPC. Because the electrons doesn't have to travel too far away. That's why Overclocking any x3D CPU from AMD will immediately revoke warranty. Because they also create foolproof measure on the CPU die to detect whether or not it's overclocked.
Overclocking CPU for maximum fps is dead anyway
In esports, you cant compare between 400-500fps
and in AAA games CPU is bottlenecked by the GPU anyway @@niezzayt3809
Yup. Great chip. Loving it. Make me laugh the i9 running 20% higher clocks and often consuming more than double the power to match it!!
Ryzen cpu easy win here vs intel engine
Ryzen 7 7800x3d - the best gaming CPU for a new PC building
Ryzen 7 5800X3D - the best gaming CPU, who don't want upgrade AM4 socket to AM5.
Intel i9 14900KS - not for gamers choice.
5800X3D is too expensive. Might as well buy a new mobo, DDR5 RAM and a 7500f for a little bit more and get the same performance. At least then you still have an upgrade path. 5800X3D should be 200$ MAX based on it's performance.
AMD this is not a processor for PC.
@@mikehawk6918upgraded from 5900 x to 5800x3d and i have more fps everywhere its a beast and not that expensive
@@mikehawk6918 new mobo new ram, 5800x3d right now isnt that expensive, basically like when 5600x was launched priced.
i9 is not for any choices, it is a shame what intel price this cpu at.
If someone is building a new pc, I would recommend to build a AM5 system. Much better for gaming and good upgrade path!
and save huge power usage
yeah, I've upgraded in the end of last year
Brokies
@@RohanSanjith Yk intel sucks ? AM5 way better lga 1700 is dead
Low iq 😂 @@RohanSanjith
It's like Intel brings a gun to a knife fight but also brings the wrong ammunition every time.
BRUH THAT TEMP AND WATTAGE ON 14900KS ☠☠☠
I'll give you wattage. But the 7800x3D is equally as hot lmao.
@@SSJBen Nah. 14900k is hotter 90% of the time. And 7800x3d is using 2 times smaller node 10nm vs 5nm so its 2 times harder to cool it. +as author said he undervolted 14900ks so yeah...💀
@@SSJBen, awwww butt hurt Intel fanboy trying to make yourself feel better by saying , look they are equally hot , do you sob a lot looking at these benchmarks Intel always loosing , lol
@@notenjoying666 Intel is done for
@@SSJBen this tester channel is intard fan boy, he use his best cooler for 14900ks and stock for 7800x3d but 87800x3d still cooler lmao
How userbenchmark will spin this as a win for Intel?
This is the most important question.
Haha. So true. You can compare 2 GPUs or CPUs at a similar price point and have the AMD one ahead by a mile but it will still be described as a piece of sh*t at the bottom of the benchmark. Proper fanboy site😂
"In a time of record inflation, the high power consumption and temperatures of the 14900KS will both provide entertainment and heating to the user, something that Advanced Marketing Devices's 7800X3D and its "3D Cache" can only dream to accomplish" or something I suppose ? XD
There is a dude in here already commented i5 13400 would get the same result against 7800x3d 🤣, so hilarious.
@@hquan1roflmao, that's a good one !
I don't think I ever red a userbenchmark review, this seems like the best time to do it 😂
thanks to the 7800x3D, I can use air coolers like the Noctua L9x65. 90mm fan, no AIO
2X power consumption
1 GHz higher Clock
+16 Cores
almost twice the cost
No upgrade path
5% slower
Edit - Needs a 360mm AIO to run it
360? You think 75 degrees WHILE GAMING is okay? Imagine any workload on it... 420 minimum...
@@notenjoying666nah a quality 360 is enough. But still too much lol
1. Destroys it in multi threading.
2. Destroys it in PC snappiness and latency
3. Destroys it in gaming with fast tuned ddr5 (can do 25-30% better than here)
4. Literally destroys it in everything speed related besides horrendous efficiency and price.
But you gotta pay for the fastest.
@@HeartOfAdeldestroys it in gaming?
Wut are you smoking?
am talking about gaming, don't care about multitasking at this price.
Its a glorified 13900k
@@ArnikoGiri can you read bro? With fast tuned ddr5 and tuned ring clocks. They'll give a ton more fps to that chip, xmp is absolutely crap for a i9 KS cpu.
As an XOC guy myself I would like to share a few words of my own first this guy has paired the 14900ks with ddr5 6000 which is not the highest speed ram which it can support unlike the r7 7800x3d which would not even show any difference with any faster ram because its already reached the limits of the infinity fabric so by this what I want is while the 7800x3d is paired with the fastest possible ram it can support which would actually make a difference the 14900ks on the other hand is not so just to make this comparision a little bit more even pair it with atleast ddr5 7200 also you've told that you have undervolted the 14900ks and with my experience with overclocking and also undervolting the 14900ks it works best with the voltage it comes out of the box with about 1.4V if you try to downclock or undervolt this cpu it will make it perform worse undervolting the 14900ks only makes sense if you don't have enough cooling capacity but then why even bother buying the 14900ks also you've told us absolute nothing about which motherboard you are using for the r7 since mobos could make a difference too that matters as well and lastly it is the SP of the cores of both of the processor you've got that matters also your i9 might have worse cores that other i9's and your r7 might have better cores from other r7's and from all this I don't necessairly mean that either one of them is worse the 7800x3d is the best processor for gaming both in it's price point and from AMD andis meant more for consumers who plays games more than tinkering with settings in bios while 14900ks is meant for enthusiast like myself who like bios and making and breaking records more than playing games but what I'm saying is the 7800c3d is paired with the best it could support while the 14900ks is not and one last more thing which I would like to add is that $749 pricetag might not be worth it to consumers but to us it is I mean almost
PS- r7 7800x3d is the best gaming processor for normal consumers while the 14900ks is the best gaming processor for enthusiasts although it was not meant to be a gaming processor but rather some to break oc records on
PPS- don't mind any mistakes in it, it was a handful typing this
Edit: also I see people in the comments taking about power consumption and to that I would say the reason intel processor in whole not only consumes more power but also performs worse than they were meant to is cuz they are on an older processor node compared to AMD and now I know many people will say why pay more for an older process node so that's a whole other debate topic which I don't even wanna get into
Edit 2- Y'all don't say I don't even own a 14900ks to begin with I've got 8 of em yes 8 I bought 8 to test those 8 14900ks's seperately and then keep the one with the best silicon or the god bin one and sell the others to my homies for cheaper
Agreed on the RAM Speed being a Handicap for Intel but at least lets agree that the efficiency for the work is ridiculously low.. 50% Usage at 210watts vs 80% Usage at 85watts? I am sorry but the intel is only good at winning OC contests that affect 0.001% of the population for everything else is a horrible pick over AMD.
To start, this comparison IS fair to have the same ram speed. Letting the intel have faster speed is very clearly not making it fair LOL. 4 months ago eTeknix released a video comparing the i9-14900k with the 7800x3d and albeit its a 14900k and not 14900ks, your theory about memory speed was proven wrong on nearly every title he tested (42) especially when it came to 4k resolution. The 7800x3d managed to beat the 14900k in most titles using 7600mhz cl38 ram for both cpus, which performed worse on the amd than the 6000mhz cl30 ram it prefers. Also, theres games that benefit from 6000mhz+ ram speed on the 7800x3d, that is not the max speed it can support. The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu PERIOD. If you have to spend 2.5x as much, draw 2-3x the power, run 25% faster ram and generate 2-3x the heat just to perform equal or 1% better in gaming, you lost. the 14900ks is the best for overclocking records like you said but if its for gaming go x3d. czcams.com/video/-Wkr3FV50xI/video.html video for reference
Could you add the power draw in watts at the wall? Using a power meter. For the computer, minus the monitor or anything else?
You should include wattage useage in these for the final result.
You gotta add the power to end graphs. The dif is nuts
Waiting DirectSr plus a few patches later. Besides long term usage favors x3d , even not mention power consumption.
Even though AMD is not good at graphics cards, it shows that it is the best when it comes to processors.
Be careful you're gonna get attacked by the rampant AMD Radeon fanboys now 😂
How are they not good in graphic cards? Literally the second best gaming graphic card is made by AMD...😉
@@justsayno1734 It is not. When accounting for features, power draw and RT performance, the 4080 Super is just the better card overall out of the two. I wouldn't look at RX 7900 XTX right now, it made sense only when the 4080 was $1200+, but right now the 4080 Super just killed it. BUT I agree saying AMD is not good at GPUs is pretty stupid.
@@justsayno1734 a wise man would not look at ONLY the gaming performance but the WHOLE gpu itself, if AMD offers good software support and gpu features like Nvidia then AMD Radeon wouldn't have to deal with their low marketshare but until then Nvidia will keep dominating the gpu marketshare
I think when you look at used prices for recent nvidia cards, it’s really pretty price competitive with the AMD stuff. But the features and driver support are way, way ahead. They’re even moving away from the clunky old nvidia control panel with the new nvidia app beta.
I was going to make a ‘best $360 I ever spent joke’, but I l realized that could be interpreted both ways because of the insane price difference here.
would also like to know idle power and temps on those
Poda Singh makan
Usually intel is better at idle power, but they still need to work on full load efficiency
Intel is under 10W idling while Ryzen is around 30W
I would like to see the same benchmark with Intel Apo(Application optimisation) active in advanced mode to see the difference.
yo brother, could you compute the Averages for all the games combined, please?
for both the Avg fps and the lows! thanks a bazillion!!!
When u test solo games i would love to see the performance on 1440p.maybe 4k cause these builds are made for 4k and 2k res imo. I know is a comparison between these 2 in the cpu intensive scenes when u test on 1080p u mainly testing for lows 0.1% in competitive games but for solo players 0.1% matters less. Average fps and 1% lows wich are minim fpses without stutter that's what concers us more.
They test it at 1080p with a 4090 to artificially create a cpu limited scenario to highlight differences between CPUs. For solo games at 1440p and 4k, it's a GPU limited scenario where there is no difference between all last gen CPUs. So take the cheapest AM5 CPU and you'll be fine for a few years and be able to upgrade to another generation later. Buying high end cpu for solo gaming is usually a waste of money.
@@palapapa1510 no it is bs 1080p for 14900ks and 7800x3d ? what a joke, you will be suprised how much better the Ryzen run with how much better FPS then the i9 in higher resolutions.
that intel power wattage makes me cry in european
I am mainly playing simulator games and I was surprised to see that AMD's chip performs better in MSFS. It used to be Intel IIRC a few months/year ago? I am an intel user (an old 9800X from the now stopped X series) and seriously start to consider AMD as an upgrade.. I am not interested in overclocking as I live in hot country (during summer months) so this is an extra plus point for switching to AMD. Only thing is I've seen in YT that there are some issues with some combinations of certain mobos with AMD cpus they can slowly cook/fry the cpu (and even the mobo itself) even on stock settings.. Intel platforms were traditionally more robust and stable and cpus could not be damaged easily even under OC..
Holy cow the differences in those 1% but especially the .01% lows are huge from one to the other.
Processador monstruoso esse ryzen 7800x3d a eficiência energética é o que maia chama atenção nele! Verdadeiro Rei do games!
7800x3d👍
14900ks👎
Ryzen 7 7800X3D = 70 watt Core i9 14900KS = 150 watt 1:23
Facts
In my country it is not worth buying an Intel processor because of the high electricity costs
@@vovapapi-sk2zgin cyberpunk test, i9 14900ks consumes up to 187w (2:50) and starfield 205w (5:06) 💀
but bruh , the 14900ks has a whole 100 mhz more then the 14900k BRUH you have to get it
What name the cooling you use in i9 gen14
Thanks for this Video, i just ordered my 7800X3D & 4080 Super!
14900KS = Extreme Overclockers
14900K = Productivity
7800X3D = The Ultimate Gaming Experience
Howewer memory oc record was made on amd am5 platform.
7800x3d is a real gift to gamers
half the price intels top stuff for same performance on average
half the power draw so you can get cheaper mobo
does not heat up like the sun so you can get a air cooler
You know the B650 boards also work well woth R9s.
@@xXXEnderCraftXXx no shiit sherlock
Good evening. It's practically 2.5 times more energy consumption to get almost the same FPS in starfield.
Seeing the AMD CPU at half the price while also consuming half the power and still being within 8 FPS in every single game is just insane.
Performance of these CPUs is similar because of GPU bottleneck. Based on fact that I9-14900KS is under lower usage by 20%-30% than 7800X3D with the same fps, I9-14900KS seems to give much more fps than 7800X3D when both used on 100%. AMD fanboys just err. Not so easy lol.
@@spookyscaryskeleton313 based on total utilization. The 14900ks has 3x the cores and 2x the threads over the 7800x3D. I would absolutely expect utilization to be lower. With 20/30% lower utilization and consuming considerably more power, that's not a good result at all. Intel fanboys I guess.
The 7800x3D sometimes has higher temps, interesting. I guess accessing the 3D cache generates a lot of heat?
smaller chip = more energy in a smaller area = higher temperature. intel has large chips in comparision and can easier remove heat
Yes my 7800x3d can sometimes get to near thermal throttle temp on an air cooler (but doesn't reach throttle).
And AMDs heatspreader is too thic
The 3dv cache, the way is stacked, makes it harder to cool. I currently have a 5800x3d, and yes you need good cooling.
I got 40 degrees idle, 50 degrees just browing.
60W de consumo con el 7800X3D 😮, Una bestia de CPU
siiiii
So glad I ordered the 7800 last week.
Where to Buy the Intel Core i9-14900KS Processor in the UAE - GCC-Gamers ?
Starfield with intel 14900ks power consumption: am i joke to You? 😂😂😂 Buahahahaaha
No one needs the 900 Series for 4k gaming , i7 enough
What AIO are you using?
Do both processors have all the same instructions? Or is the AMD cpu one of those that you find out 5 years later it doesnt has an instruction that a new game needs to even launch
I think it would be better to test both processors with tuned DDR5 to see their maximum capabilities. 6000CL30 is fine for R7, but the i9 can make use of 7200CL34 tuned.
Doesn't really matter if Intel consuming beyond 3x more Wattage than Ryzen.
Even if it does make Intel win in Benchmark, it only makes Ryzen more favorable because when Core i9 using faster DDR5 and tuned, it also increase the power consumption like crazy than what's already shown in this video.
350 Dollars more expensive, paired with even more expensive RAM, for 10 FPS gain is utterly pathetic
@@niezzayt3809 It might not matter to you. It matters for others. The 14900KS consuming more power doesn't matter to some people, especially where electricity is dirt cheap, the thing that matters to everyone is the insane Productivity advantage Intel offers.
But in this testing, it's the best of both AMD and Intel, so why not test them in the best case scenario?
Also Zen 5 is supposedly having better memory controllers, so it will be reference to test memory scaling too.
@@dominatortitanium when you say Productivity, this channel doesn't even test that Productivity at all.
So even if this channel does Actually make the video with your RAM suggestions, they will still Only Benchmarking games, and makes Intel even more pathetic.
@@niezzayt3809 Intel is pathetic considering their poor efficiency. But the 14th Gen Lineup is a Pretty good all-rounder. And not considering efficiency, in this test the 14900KS is pretty much the same as 7800X3D, even without bringing the potential gains from using 7200 CL34 to the equation.
As a gaming channel, an ideal test would have the best RAM options for each processor.
You can see HWU's video on 13th Gen Memory scaling, where the 7200CL34 XMP is faster than 6000 CL30, not to mention the tuned 7200CL34 kits.
Edit: Typo
@@dominatortitanium Why have different memory on the Intel to help its performance, when it already needs more cooling, more powersupply, more case ventilation?
The price difference of the 14900ks compared to the 7800X3D is already enough to buy a new case, new headphones, new mouse and new keyboard. Why make the price difference even greater?
If wanting a allrounder instead of gaming, the 7950X3D is still cheaper then the 14900KS.
As a Intel fan i am disappointed
Well done amd
Why are you a fan btw ? It's a corporation that makes computer hardware , what's up with brand loyalty , so stick to a company that hasn't produced a decent cpu since 2017 how does that benefit you ?
AMD , Intel , Nvidia or any other company are just corporations, no need for brand loyalty , they won't thank you for it , but if you vote with your wallet you get better computer parts for less .
What's up with this fanboyism.
@@skywalker1991 Well being a "fan" of a brand can result from earlier experiences when e.g. brand A products worked flawlessly for you while brand B caused problems.
Averaging the average of each game
7800X3D - 156.9FPS - 99.87%
14900KS - 157.1FPS - 100%
*14900KS is .13% higher fps*
Averaging the c.pwr at the end of the test (when it starts to fade)
7800X3D - 66.4W
14900KS - 170.8W
*14900KS uses 2.57x more power(+104.4W)*
Lowest retail price in US (5/3/24)
7800X3D - $358.99
14900KS - $663.99
*14900KS costs 1.84 times more(+$305)*
what overlay do you use to record low 1% fps
looks like normal RTSS settings
Get ddr5 7600mhz + for i9 or any other intel 12gen and up and test it again. You will have to see difference, or even ddr4 4000mhz + with tight timings. Why do all of these youtube benchmarkers underestimate ram speed when it comes to intel, just why 😮💨.
Cause they are like the mainstream youtube reviewers. Dont have a clue about memory tuning.
intel apo with advanced settings changes the situation in a profound way
Two years ago it was amd crying use faster ram, now it's Intel fans wanting the fast ram... 2% better frame rates and spend 60 bucks more.for a kit or ram.
Intel lost this round. It's ok. KS chips are going to need a car radiator to keep them cool not thermal throttling.
@@robertbolzicco9995 Intel Apo is the way
+30% Rainbow six
+20% Meteo Exodus
@@gabrielebarreca1335 those numbers aren't adding up in this video. Seems like a cherry picked % also it's twice the price and twice as hot.
And intel claims amd is selling snake oil 😂
The 14900KS is a CPU for enthusiasts who OC it to 6.3 GHz on liquid cooling and run 8800 MT/s DDR5 memory. But for everyone else, the 7800X3D is great.
that power consumption 🤣, absolute shintel
14900kW
😂
Pls do benchmark of the new apo supported games.
In principle, there is parity among processors) in the end everyone will take what their heart desires)
Damn
Double the power. Double the price. Same performance.
What a deal!
@TestingGames A comparison could be handy of how much money had been used on electricity, let's say per half an hour or hour of gameplay on AMD and Intel CPUs.
thank you for this, friend!
Warzone using 24gb vram 💀💀
"allocated" not actively using
Warzone allocates all of your VRAM to prevent lag
Warzone seems to do it with any card not just the 4090 even if you'll use 6700 xt on 1090 you will qllpcate very close to it and 1440p you'll allocate 12 gb vram so I guess they have a point here.
Natty lifter with elite genetics = 7800x3d
Juiced lifter with bad genetics = 14900ks
only in gaming, in every other productivity application it's the complete opposite
@@STXNCIC And remember its 1080p Testing lol not 1440p
@@officialyashvirgaming when did I say it was 1440p?
@@STXNCIC but the 1400ks cost nearly twice as much...
I don't get it. In the majority of tests like Hardware-Unboxed or TechpowerUp, the 7800X3D has a better AVG and 1% low than the i9 14900K. Why is it the other way round in your tests?
RAM Speed being equal on Both handicap Intel so this is best case scenario for AMD.
7800X3D can only support 6000mhz memory while the 14900KS can do over 8000mhz.
So if you artificially handicap the 14900KS to slow speed (Its rather slow for it) RAM you have these results.
If he acctually used the i9 to its full potential its better. It can use 7200+ mt/s ram which is way higher than the 7800x3d.
So how about video editing comparisons, photo editing, or statistics crunching, or engineering modeling or music editing? We're not all gamers out here.
Intel has become what AMD was years ago, extremely high power consumption cpus just to be able to compete and still falls short.
It's because Meteor Lake (true 14th gen ) was a failure and they have to keep older tech on the market.
@@lharsay Intel sucks since skylake. 4690k was the latest rly good and insane intel cpu. Everything after it was a complete mess.
@@notenjoying666 I think 8th gen, 10th gen and 12th gen were good.
Power Consumption: 2.25x
Price: +$300
Performance: Almost the same
Conclusion: Core i9-14900KS is a waste of silicon, money and power. Just buy a 13900K (or 7950X/3D) if you want high multithreaded performance with great gaming performance. If you don't care about that, 7800X3D is the way to go.
Noob and serious question here: by having Tripple the number of cores and double the number of threads, the i9 will perform better in the futere? Also the % of usage is always lower on i9...
Serious question because my 4770 lasted untill it start to gave me too much stuttering and i gave in and bought a new i7 (last year)...
i saw ryzen 1700 tests in 2024 and 16 threads not helping it, in some games even 5700x gives nearly x3 fps difference)
No
As a simple answer - not really.
If we'd dig a bit deeper, then IF Windows gonna finally start to work correctly with the difference in normal cores and the things called "e-cores" by Intel + IF Game devs and engines gonna start to make and split tasks based on the core types correctly + IF we'll leave in the perfect world, where's possible to predict 100% of scenarios, and preventevly manage them to run on correct threads, then, theoretically, you could have a small boost instead of a trouble by all this additional e-cores. As an example - FX cpus, which came with their multi-threading much earlier then the industry got ready for that. But, till and IF all the things gonna happen, there for sure will be another cpus with 2-3 times lower price, which are able to do all this things much batter, so there's no point to buy high-end Intel p+e cores cpus right now "for the future" for it's overprice, if you aren't satisfied by the performance here and now. However, we have to admit better multi-tasking potential of Intel in this concrete comparison, cuz e-cores could take side-processes, as Google Chrome on background while your're playing, or whatever. But still, if we have to search for SUCH pluses with twice more expensive cpu - doesn't really worth it :D
Most games dont use a fraction of the cores cpu's have today. The extra cores arent for gaming but production. So thats not likely to change as the cpu's get older. It's why they always use the *800x series Ryzen instead of the *950x version.
Don't let the usage% fool you.
For the whole picture you'd need to see all cores in the graph, not just the average usage shown in the video.
Let's say your CPU has 20 cores and only one of those is at 100% while the other cores do nothing, the average shown will be super low. But that 1 core at 100 will make your game stutter.
The Ryzen has "only" 8 cores so the average shown will always be higher.
Double the power draw and price and 5-8° hotter while still being slower is crazy
AMD Win
Nobody with i9 would go with just 6000MHz RAM though. At minimum they'd get 7200MHz, but probably closer to 8000MHz.
More money for extra 1-2% fps and 200w for power consumption?
@@enginex99 If you knew anything you'd know its way more than just 1-2% FPS boost in CPU bound scenarios. Sure, 7800X3D makes most sense for most people. But its a lie to try and claim 14900K/KS doesn't beat it.
Most of 14900k's cant run stable even at 7800. 7600 is the fastest anyone can rly run, anything above is a silicon lottery.
Also you can oc memory on amd, and tighten up the timings.
@@notenjoying666 you can run the i9 on 8400mhz stable and can amd also do 6.4 ghz like the 14900ks p cores? i dont think so.
@@michagysin3082 Only if you get a good 14900ks chip. Reddit is full of posts where people cant even boot with 8000 xmp profile.
If you really wanna show CPU performance, you've to dial down the settings, or also include eSports title like CS2, Valorant and Dota.
I think a dogtown driving loop or a walk around the black market in cyberpunk would be better. More taxing than corpo center
When you look at the price to performance and also power consumption. There's no competition in gaming. Other applications might benefit from that 14900ks over the amd variants
what is the software who is using to show informations ?
@@NoSkillsBro i ve nort fount section for display Pcore and ECore processor measure
I would love to helldivers 2 on your next videos since that game is very cpu heavy
Could somebody explain please why the ryzen cpu utilization is nearly always the double of intels counterpart ?
I know the wattage is a lot lower and i am completely with the ryzen side this time
But wouldn't that make the intel cpu alot more future proof ??
Intel CPU has way more cores, so the utilization is lower.
guys i am curious about someting, any of these games doesn use %100 RAM, VRAM or processor capacity so what is the limiting factor of fps?
This is actually gpu limits fps
you can use higher ram speed with 14900ks to gain more fps since that cpu is for overclocking also
Yup Intel lost it plain, but I do agree the Intel 12th gen i5 12400F, 12600K and 13600K were worth the money paid for em as they were able to be at par or better than AMD CPUs in same price park.
Can you make a video of the 14900k vs 14900ks?
2fps diff
Well... this video confirms me in my decision in getting a 7800x3d. And that is someone saying who only used Intel since I got my first PC, 26 years ago. 🙊
I don't quite get all the negative comments on intel.
14900k is not focused on gaming. It does a good job ALSO at gaming but is a productivity and multi-tasking monster. 7800x3D is a gaming CPU with all of it's 8 cores available for 3D v-cache. It has a crazy 96Mb of L3 cache and it is also advertised as a gaming processor.
It has one primary purpuse and does the job extremely well.
7800x3D - 10/10 for gaming and 7/10 for productivity
14900k - 9/10 for gaming and 10/10 for produvtivity
7950x3D - 9.5/10 for gaming and 8.5/10 for productivity (it also has 8 cores for v-cache, like 7800x3D but requires more fiddling to get all the cores active for games, 7800x3d is plug and play, but in the end it gets similar performance as 7800x3d, perhaps 1% lower results on average).
This is the reason why 14900k is 3x the price of 7800x3D...because it can also do much more stuff that is not related for gaming.
If you are like me and you are building a PC tower solely for gaming purpuse, get 7800x3D and save some money.
An 14900ks made by TSMC will be insane
Next 15th gen made by tsmc
Вроде как, на процессоры 7800x3d меньше влияет разгон памяти, из-за быстрого кэша и делителя, было бы интересно сравнение с памятью 8000mhz на обоих процессорах
Korea/Uzbekistan. 😊I'm planning to buying 7800x3d 7900xtx sapphire nitro vapor-x using for 2000$ only desktop . Its normal price i though!?
Refresh vs technology
In the case of old games that only use single core of CPU (or 2 cores), which one of those 2 CPUs will produce higher fps? Ryzen R7 7800X3D or Intel core i9 14900KS? And why?
Ryzen!
Ryzen. Because of a much larger cache.
@@mikehawk6918 Yes, but in return the i9 chip has a higher clock speed.
So we can't know for sure unless someone tests it, unfortunately people only test it with new games that are capable of using a lot of cores.
@@artworkdt2077 If all it took was clock speed to win, older AMD chips before Ryzen would have dominated, but lower clock speed Intel crushed them. Its not all about clock speed.
About 2 weeks ago I bought brand new PC with r7 7800x3d in it. Speechless.
What Motherboard and GPU?
@@TheShadiboy1 Gigabyte aorus elite b650 ax and RTX 2060 SUPER (very soon will upgrade to 4070 super)
The Power Consumtion from 7800x3D is really nice. My 5950x nee almost the Power from this Intel. In Cyberpunk my 5950x use 160W
Am I the only one noticing micro-stutters with the 14900KS in Warzone
You know that you can overclock the amd one and get more performance right?
One if specifically made for gaming and the other is made for more multicore applications but the prices on intel CPUs are actually ridiculous…
I luv my 7800x3d. I upgraded from an Intel 5820k. Electric bill a little happier now.