Wilson Sent me a Better Airless Gen1 Basketball
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- The Wilson Airless Gen1 Basketball definitely turns heads but how does it play?
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0:00-2:54 - Introduction
2:54-4:25 - Sponsor
4:25-6:06 - Unboxing
6:06-7:10 - Bounce
7:10-8:25 - Classic Wilson Ball
8:25- 10:20 - Airless Ball
10:20-12:33 - Conclusion
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The bigest drawback is that it is impossible to sign it by players 😂
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wow i didn't think about that - true
it won’t ever be used anyway
just get a fine edge silver sharpie
hot take. It's implied that you use this on the way to the kitchen at 3AM.
I bet it sounds like an atomic bomb when trying to seak around at 3am
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@@MoreshwarChaudhari-my9jj💀
I believe that is accurate
It's called drag coefficient and I'm a little shocked that no one saw this coming. It's a ball, covered completely in holes. It's trajectory will be affected.
The airless also looks lighter weight. So if they had the same drag coefficient (pretend), the same drag force, a lighter weight ball is more affected by that force. I think they are trying to reduce both the drag and the weight, but haven't tuned it right.
its like throwing a whiffle ball instead of a real baseball. this thing is stupid
I think most people saw this coming
I’m pretty sure every engineer at Wilson understands that…
You don’t think the paid engineers who spent their life studying this and making this for years didn’t account for that?? It’s obvious a placebo effect
I can’t wait for the temu version
😂😂😂😂😂
Temu has it already and they corrected the air issue 😅🤣😂
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hahahahahaha - made of string
People already design 3D Printing models made out of PLA, so it's basically one time use xd
Every video I’ve seen of someone shooting with the airless ball has air balled their first shot
air ball with the airless ball. nice.
yeah the wind passing through the ball when you shoot it has to have some effect on it. I don't even know why wilson even spent money coming up with this weird thing
@@gowthamgowda3216 Just as a publicity stunt. And it works like a charm.
They can make an airless ball without the need of the holes. I don’t know, i feel like the holes are a gimmick.
well they need different material or thickness then. @@OGWimoTapia
One of the main things for me is the sound. I don't think I can do without the sound of a normal basketball bouncing on the ground, it's as important as the feel to me.
I would imagine that this basketball is KIND of like the airless tire, like they always show the tire where you can see through it, but in reality when they actually release the tire i think they would be covering the sidewalls with rubber, meaning you can only see the inside of the airless tire for the demonstration purposes, so for the basketball I would imagine that this is kind of that same thing, release it to a few people who want to buy it so that people can actually see what it is, then release the actual one with some kind of leather skin or something so it doesn't have all the whole visible
it sounds like a wet slap, it's gross
covering the holes would definitely change how it acts with the ground and air@@Arcella1981
Funny, I have the same issue with electric cars
@@Arcella1981 Especially since, covering it with a thin non-structural skin would be a fairly simple solution to start dealing with the drag difference.
It also doesn't have that much to do with the major technical difficulty which was creating the complicated structure in appropriate materials for this concept to work. (also part of the reason why many of the people trying to 3d print this ball fail, it required quite specific materials and printing methods)
my smoll brain in 2000: humanity will be living on Saturn by the end of 2020
reality in 2024: airless basketball
😂😂😂😂😂
Back to the future had flying cars in 2015 so forget 2024 😂 how about 1984
reality in 2024: airless 2.5k dollar basketball that could be 3d printed for like 30 bucks worth of material
Nasa is sending people to live on the moon though
Go read Bible hell on earth is coming as a military veteran we won’t ever live on another planet go watch more Hollywood satanic trash
This is why we are failing in this world stupid inventions lack of knowledge of God y’all are fools
This definitely makes sense as a collector's item. High price, low volume, selling to people who want to have a small piece of history so to speak. Wilson probably doesn't need to sell very many of these in the grand scheme to make enough money to recoup development costs so they can continue to comfortably develop gen 2 and so on. Future generations will likely get cheaper as the production process gets more refined and the product gets closer to being usable as a drop-in replacement for an air-filled basketball.
As a collectors item the v1 test version is probaby going to getch 100 times more then the production one.. in 20-30 years... if it gets to be collectable at all.
what does "piece of history" mean? This youtube comment is a piece of history. Ponzi schemes are history. Just because someone markets something doesn't mean its worth buying or that it will be important later.
Bring back Lew Later please 😢
I've been looking for something similar, some other podcast like that. I couldn't find anything as good...
Lew is later alright like over a year Lew Later 😮
What happened?? I was waiting for a comeback but nothing happened
Bring back lew later music
@@charlesparenteau9256 that’s what i thought he was talking about 😂
the editing with the texts in this video is chef's kiss
until it glitches...
I disagree i actually can't stand it😅
Your skill on the court is impressive 👌🏾
I don't get how this guy is still so popular all his vids are 5 mins of ads before he even talks about the product we are here to see him review.
With so many subs, you gonna get the ads.
It’s pretty common knowledge he buys views
I'd say that the speed holes are interfering with the magnus effect. Preventing it flying as well as a backspinning basketball, golf ball or table tennis ball.
I want that R32 in the background!
Facts that thing looks clean asf
Not a fan of the rims but the nismo intercooler is cool
@@sniepo_gaming9953quite literally
It WAS in the background for the first half of the video. Didn't you see it?
At first I thought momentum would be the reason why he kept shooting short due to less weight, but apparently the Airless is very close in weight to the regular. So yeah, while he said air resistance, I'd say he's close to the answer, it'd be turbulance that's causing a lot more drag on the ball flying through the air. All those holes will be creating some mad random turbulance patterns.
I agree with you. If they were able to have some sort of leather/faux leather mesh covering the ball, that would definitely help with the air resistance and grip. Hopefully they’re already working on implementing something like that because if they’ve already tried and can’t get that to work then this just stays a collector’s item. It would be so cool to have airless balls that are functionally identical to regular balls
But then again, why fix something that isn't broken? A normal ball is just perfect as is.
@@akamehino, they aren’t. Regular balls go flat. And are noisy. Way to completely disregard facts.
@@InvincibleDead85so pump it up. Who cares if it’s noisy, you’re either using it outside or in an open gym
@@akamehithese kinds of products aren’t really intended to fix any problems. It’s more so just “hey look what we’ve been working on it’s pretty cool”. A basketball that doesn’t need pumping sounds amazing but the technology to make it happen never existed until now
Covering the holes will probably make it bounce a lot more different than a real bball, just look at how the Jabulani went, and that's not as far of a move compared to the airless.
@EngineeringExplained needs to take a look at this. The effect of air around the ball instead of through it. Id watch that for sure.
The drag would be quite a bit different because of the holes, which might be why you had to shoot it harder
I Work in 3D Printing and the first Ball you got was with raw Material unfinished. The Black one is chemicaly smoothend an coloured.
If it flies with more resistance than before that’s so awesome, that means the arc of the ball changed to be more vertical at the end - in other words once you’re used to the distance, it’s easier to get a basket
Damn this guys is pretty athletic haha all your videos are just you sitting on a chair so I never imagined you being this fit, good job
I believe he also plays hockey regularly.
@@OctwavianHe’s Canadian I think the parents have to sign them up for it contractually.
With that analysis, it really belongs to a glass case only to be adored by friends and visitors. Not in the court! Keep inventing stuff Wilson, maybe someday you can make something court worthy ^_^
The most jarring part without handling one is the sound. So very different. Of course the look and design are fascinating. Yet again without handling one it’s hard to imagine.
As many others in comments have stated, I would think all the holes would create drag. You expressed how you felt the need to push the shots harder from 3. Seems like a flaw in engineering. Yet I suppose it would very much change the game if it were adopted as regulation.
Thanks for putting so much effort into a review of something I’ll likely only see on video. As you said it’s unlikely to be used in a random game and I don’t have that kind of scratch. Cheers!
Can't wait to see an affordable, practical version of that. Hopefully they can lighten it too.
I miss the old unbox therapy 😢😢
Ball is life
The vivobarefoot choice of shoes is the most impressive part of this video. I love it
Awesome! I was also thinking about air resistance the whole time maybe the trick would be to ever so slightly increase the size of the holes...and to counter for weight use a more dense polymer??? I dont know...😅 the material science + fluid + aero dynamics here is not meant for my brain😅😅. Which is why i think its already insane that they got it to this level...
Ok, long time subscriber...the thing that caught my eye the most is that Lew missed the 1st 2 shots and that competitive beast inside started sturing. Then he saw the 1st one go down and was like "nah thats not enough, I need another one!"
He didn't miss
He hit the rim to see the bouncy
stirring
I was looking at the r32 for 12:33 minutes , What a piece of art .
no you weren't, as it wasn't on screen for half the video
Airflow is a factor when shooting with the ball, but it’s not as big as you’d think. It’s more so the actual weight of the ball compared to the regular basket ball. A regular basket ball has more weight to it which allows it to go farther with similar force as you would with the airless.
It’s the same reason why a paper plane with the front two corners folded then the wings doesn’t fly, but the moment you fold those corners one more time and make it heavier in the front, it flies.
Never been this early love the hard work you have always put into your videos it's is simply quality brother
Damn, exact time at Assassin's Creed Shadows trailer.
Wtf?! I'm not subscribed to ubisoft, but as soon as I've seen this comment, the next video became the trailer!
CZcams magic. :3
You take that shit to the hood you'll never see that ball ever again 😂
What's really cool is the moire pattern seen as the holes align at different orientations & at different camera distances. Can I borrow it to study?
The bounce sound plays a significant role; I reckon even professionals would need to make adjustments when using this new airless basketball.
Bro a professional brick layer throwing bricks all day long
The real question is why they are investing R&D into a product that no one wants nor needs 😂 It solves a problem that doesn’t really exists and presents a bunch of new ones.
I mean, you don’t have to worry about inflation and deflation, nor do you have to worry about popping the ball, so it’s more durable, plus the 3D printed material should be more eco-friendly than whatever material they’re using for the actual ball (maybe). It’s more a matter of convenience. You store the ball away, you come back to it after 20 years, and it still works like new without requiring air
@@mrsoisauce9017 It's 2.5k.
@@mrsoisauce9017 These are not durable. That was a big issue with the prototypes; they kept breaking. That’s a natural side effect of composite melted materials produced by 3d printing. 3D printing is also not eco-friendly lol. Microplastics aside, the filament manufacturing process isn’t great, then printing itself releases significant harmful emissions. Plastics also get brittle over time, so that ball ain’t bouncing the same 20 years later.
@@iRunfastXC This isn’t exactly a plastic tho. I have to assume it’s a material that’s similar to TPU; it’s more rubbery and bouncy. I believe it’s more durable than standard filament as well. Both those things would help its durability over time. Plus, as technology progresses, it’s going to become a lot better as a technology
I’d be more interested in an airless car tire than an airless basketball
What ever that material is, make a layer 1/20th the depth of those holes to cover it. That is what I want to see Wilson. Yes the bounce will be affected altering the structure, but surely ratio matters a lot. If you have a thin layer the resistance to morphing will be low enough to allow proper compression and uncompression.
Try shooting it underhand. Spin should be a good facter against the air resistance with the holes.
The ball is coming up short. The air going through it is probably messing it up. Seems like you have to use more strength to get that ball where you want it. Going to wear you out faster. There’s nothing wrong with todays basketball.
Likely all the holes are creating turbulence through the air.
The only thing that's wrong is it has air & needs an air pump 😅
I’m Wilson ❤
Honestly, I could see how you would want it to emulate a typical basketball a bit more accurately with future iterations. But I still think this would be a great tool to train with as is. You are using all the same motion but with more required strength to accommodate for the drag. That should improve accuracy control when shooting a regular ball.
Hey, Hello, they can just plug the holes eventually and the ball will be fine. It's most likely still in this honeycomb form to show off that it has no air.
Artifact???
Air resistance through the mesh make it more force needed vs conventional solid curved surface of the ball..
Orange Leather wrapped around the honeycomb would look and feel pretty cool I would think. I can't wait to see someone do that.
You should test this theory out by mentally adjusting to the airless ball, by only shooting and using the airless ball for a few days and then switch back to the normally wilson ball, with a hypothesis that your mental adjustment to the airless ball should lead to too much power when using the normal ball, as you try to mentally adjust back to the normal ball.
the good thing about he new ball is that you might be able to make trick shots out of it. The holes made it possible to curve the ball like a golf ball
Very interesting analysis. Well done Lou
I think a clear material with the same texture as a regular basketball would have a very nice feel to it
It is definitely a multi use object, if your dog is bored you can put a treat in the ball and keep your dog entertained or you can put it in the washing machine to have the soap better distributed, not to mention the fact that you could clean amazingly your salad there, it could be difficult to cut the salad in a very small pieces to put them inside but hey, you can't have everything in life ... right?
For the short throw you can read about the magnus effect. It's probably what's "not" happening as the ball has no pressure and no plain surface compared to a normal ball.
Airless balls have been around in different ways for a long time. Just haven't gone basketball sized yet. The marketing and product design for this is excellent. Taking an everyday kids toy idea. Making it feel fresh and new. At a much larger size. A wiffle ball is one example from our childhood.
I like your idea of keeping the core and wrapping it in leather
Im Impressed with Lew on the court!
What an awesome R32 in the back!😍😍😍😍
This was really cool. CZcams randomly made me watch you. I want to go play basketball. I will absolutely buy 2 if they hit $50.
That GT-R sitting behind❤
If it's really catching air drag, then I wonder if blowing a balloon up inside it, would help cut some of the drag... If not, adding a thin outer skin, could possibly help. Obviously, a thin outer skin would wear fast, and it wouldn't be good for outdoor courts. It would help with figuring out if it's real the air drag that's making it shoot different.
I figured that air drag was gonna play a massive role on that design after the last video, kinda dissapointed you didn't try it with a fan blowing near the hoop as to simulate wind in an exterior court
This was a good video. Please bring back more detailed honest reviews that focus on the things that you guys used to focus on 3-4 years ago. I miss these types of videos.
If this is hollow with no air then make tennis balls solid with no air, golf balls hallow but filled with water. Fill the football up with concrete mix ect...
This would be very interesting in the pro league , I actually would like this ball being used and see who comes out on top and who falls next generation of basketball players might have to be much stronger and its gonna force players to play more aggressive since dunks are gonna be the main way to make points
I think this tech would be great for people to practice their handling at home. Would require some more R&D for actual on-court use in a game.
This is dope. The way they got it to mimic the behavior of the traditional ball, but be made using modern techniques.
At the same time, mfers actually managed to engineer a basketball that needed to be patched in order to work properly. He's talking about it like it has a version number and everything. What a time to be alive.
They need to put a leather wrap around it with all the holes still exposed to give it a little bit more weight and still be able to have the leather basketball feel
It would be interesting to set up a little launcher like a trebuchet and compare the differences between balls in distance traveled at varying speeds.
No way I’ve only just remembered about unbox therapy I used to watch this guy daily before bed back when he was doing the cup that doesn’t knock over 🤣🤦🏻♂️
What shoes are you wearing ? I need those ! My feet need air during the summer and those look amazing
I wonder how it functions in a cold gym or even in hot temps.
Great Vid! Low key missing Lew Later 👀
it's not that it's adding resistance, it's that the skin effect that's usually present with regular basketballs is gone as the air is going right through the ball so it's not got the carry a regular skinned ball does. Try putting a skin on it and see if that fixes it, if the weight is correct.
i want to see what a full court or even half court laser pass would look like. in my head I imagine it comes at you like a knuckle ball lmao
Hey Will, have you got the Soundvibe Thunderpuck? We can not get it in the UK and you have two. Thank you.
Its actually funny that you airballed the first shot because I saw a video by another creator where he claimed everyone airballs the first shot with it. So clearly there is a difference however a pro NBA hooper was able to immediately adjust to that first airball and he was droppin dimes after that.
only good for indoor coz pebbles, dust, wind are the enemies
air get through and might circulate inside for a bit that affect the momentum of the ball.. i guess
I'd love to see a wind test with smoke going over this ball and a regular one just for kicks.
Pretty sure that there isn't more resistance, just LESS lift. Backspin plays a crucial role in generating lift on a basketball and even a change to the surface texture can affect the amount of lift. A porous ball will never create as much lift as a continuous solid surface, which is why we don't see planes with holes in them to 😁
This is the experimenting that lacked on the previous and other reviewers videos. This was my main concern with the product, it’s still a cool looking item to showcase on display somewhere.
Ohh nice Skyline. Didnt know ya had good taste in cars. Show us more of it.
Cool video! Thanks!
Seems like they could create a consistent structure across the entire surface to improve feel and air resistance. The see through seems to be aesthetic. Seems like you’re kinda saying that as I type 😂
Maybe with an orange leather exterior, and a heavy interior lining.
Pretty sure this surface structure makes Magnus Effect quite strong. Effect of spin should be considered.
If they put the same external orange layer than the classic ball, it will recover the holes, give the grip back, and maybe the sound as well
how do you keep air from getting inside it?
What's the problem within regular one? And why should we need to switch to Airless one?
The problem is a combination of drag coefficient and the magnus effect. Both of which could be solved if there was a covering on the ball.
As a tennis player I’d be interested in trying out airless tennis balls if Wilson were ever to make them.
The consistent missing short is pretty surprising, you think they could have figured that out too in the GEN 1
would be a great ball to practice dribbling in the middle of the night in ur room without waking anyone up.. and when u grab the normal ball the sound it makes will enhance it better too.. i mean i am just waffling completely disregarding the price
you should weigh them both and see which is lighter. the airless looks lighter, so i assume if its lighter, youll need to throw it harder to beat air resistance.
Looks like the Airless would work better as an indoor training tool for dribbling like if you are in an apartment building.
wondering how the holes would affect its spin etc
I Think that's Venom Ball Edition with Special Features!!! 🏀🏀
I like your hypothesis, now to ask Mythbusters!
Maybe take the leather off the regulation ball and glue it on the Next-gen?
Putin a mic in your hat is a genius move
Nice blue Nissan R32 in the background ❤❤❤❤❤ 🔥 🔥 🔥