Jeep Grand Cherokee 🔴How to disable stop start (ESS)🔴 Dodge Durango the right way. For Free!! 🔴
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2018
- This video will show you how to disable the Auto stop start feature (ESS) that is so annoying on your 2017 - 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2017-2018 Dodge Durango without disconnecting the hood ajar switch and losing your remote start. This will also work on other makes and models like Ford Ecoboost, Chevy, GMC Toyota. You will just have to find the IBS (Intelligent battery sensor) and unplug it.Finally Start stop Hacked!! This video is for information only.
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Thanks so much for posting this information. This auto start system is so very annoying!
Me you and a lot of other people agree
You’re welcome man anytime.
@@BrandonHaneline In your segment you forgot to tell them how much faster it kills the batteries and they aint cheap > another Jeep tech :)
Very true. We do go through some batteries
Debbie H yeap 295 at the dealership
You are so kind to have posted this. We just bought a 2018 Jeep Cherokee and did not realize you had to turn this feature off every time you got in the vehicle. This is the most annoying thing!! Thank you so much...it saves us a lot of frustration.
Your most welcome! Working in the car industry I hear a lot of people complaining about this problem. I felt I needed to solve it. Thanks again.
Thank you so much!! This feature is driving me crazy, and I cannot believe that they can't just put in a feature that remembers your setting for it. I have seen so many people online frustrated by this, I will pass along your video.
Please share on Facebook an Instagram so everyone will know. Working for Chrysler I hear customers all the time asking about this so I was determined to find out away around it. There are several other ways but this way is free and is the easiest for the consumer. Without losing other features on the Jeep. Please let everyone know. Thanks again.
I applied your tip to a 2019 Grand Cherokee. Also verified remote start works.
I had a chrysler Pacifica for a rental and it had stop start. The battery was easy to get to so I unplugged it while I was renting it. Then plugged it back in the night before returning it. Thanks for the great information
Confirmed tested and working on Jeep Grand Cherokee 2018 Limited. Thank you very much, sir.
Thank you for solving the worst engineering idea EVER!!! For the money we spend on Jeep products, the idea that something so intrusive to your driving experience can't be turned off, when the damn thing comes with different themes for the infotainment system, blows my mind!
I know right. Thanks for watching Matt Really appricate it. Im glad I could help
Thank the lord. I did what you said on my new 2019 Durango GT and it worked like a charm. It took a few minutes and done. I love it. Damn stop/start features are the worse. Thanks man.
I agree !!!! the start-stop button was invented for one reason not to save gas but to burn gas. With gas on the rise across the United States people are doing less traveling basically go to work , home that's it .here's proof did you ever notice gas goes up in the summer when people do the most traveling , and doing winter months gas is low . and only in warm States gas is $4 and better year round .So the government partnered up with car manufacturers to find out how to get consumers to go back to the pump and this is what they came up with start stop they tell everybody is to save gas but how when you need gas to turn the car on every start stop it's fuel injection fuel is sent the motor on every start to crank the motor .. pass the word
Thank you, my dealership wouldn't help me with this. I called Jeep HQ, because I actually almost died from this feature not working right. I actually dont think it saves gas really. So I am subscribing to your channel
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Thank you so much for this video, while the battery on the Chrysler Pacifica isn’t under the passenger seat, I was able to find that plug under the hood thanks to your video, I made a video to show people how to do it on the Pacifica and linked yours for where I got it from, Thank you so much again I would not of been able to do it without you
Savior!! You Sir are a genius, well done!
Thank you. I have heard so many people complain about this. I had to find a hack. Now you can enjoy your Jeep. 😊
Thank you this is very helpful! I was look for a relay to unplug but this is so much more helpful.
You are a life saver. The stop start almost got my family and I killed at an intersection yesterday. I see a lot of lawsuits coming over these stupidly engineered systems.
@Bill A Making a left at an intersection with a two way stop sign. Somebody blew the stop sign on the other side of the street causing me to hit the brakes. I hit the gas because we are now sitting perpendicular to oncoming traffic, but no response because the car shut off. Hard to tell time but it took a second for the engine to come back on and by that time people in oncoming traffic were slamming on their brakes.
Wow! Just did this and it worked great. Thank god i found this video, Great job!
Finally a fix! Great video and easy to complete. Worked great!
I’m glad i can be a help.
So tha A is always gonna be on is i unplug that switch!?
excellent video. you rock. this is gold. you relieved a huge cranial migrane for me today. thanks.
Thank you so much - this looks like it will work on my parents 2019 Acura RDX too!
Thank you so much for this quick fix! This was a huge headache🙏🏼
Life saver!! Most annoying thing ever.
Christian R yes it is. They put it on the new wrangler also. Here is the one on the wrangler. czcams.com/video/Nh2A5vpzZCA/video.html
THANK YOU!!! What a pain in the Arce that Start/Stop feature is!
I know right. Can’t stand that it.
Stay tuned to the channel FCA is supposed to announce something big tomorrow
here's something to ponder. if the ess is so good at conserving fuel why does it disable itself when your fuel level is low?
Question, can a resistor be put in connector end to stop the fault, sees open circuit, direct short(jumper) would show short circuit, resistor would close circuit without fault?
You sir, are the man!
I was told by my mechanic that disabling that sensor will also change how the battery is fed energy from the alternator. Is that correct? Do you know what else that sensor might control. If you reply, I'll get the message. Many Thanks
Thanks Brandon, this helped so much when i did this to my 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee when i first bought it two years ago. I've been problem free for 2 years but now the check engine light has come on and when i took it to the dealer, they said it was because I had disconnected this cable. Have you come across this issue? Not sure why the check engine light would come one two years later.
Any chance that removing the ground at the battery caused any electrical damage at any time, or computer problems ECM, transmission control unit, traction control, parking brake control unit or other electrical/computer anomalies ?
Will this work with a 2020 Durango RT? Thanks Much
This also worked on my 2019 Renegade TH with the 1.3L Turbo engine. Downside is that its in the engine bay and where the battery is located, there seems to be quite of bit of dirt getting there...so both ends will need to be protected.
Save gas sure...more wear and tear on the starter. Thanks for the vid
SIR! GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did this help you?
Yes it sure did bro!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I can't tell you how much that feature annoys me!!! Your way of solving it turned out to be the best way! I thank you every time I sit in the car now... LOL... Now I'm enjoying the new car experience because of you! I'm so thankful that you went out of your way to make this video. I hope something great happens to you soon! God bless and again... THANK YOU!! Steve
Wow. I’m so glad to know that I am helping people through CZcams. Thanks again. Now you can enjoy your Jeep more than you did. If you have any questions about the Jeep. Please let me know. And I will find out. I’ll be posting more Jeep videos soon. 😁
Terrific! Will this work on a 2020 trailhawk? Guess I'll find out in a few days.
Gonna do this on my wife’s 18 Durgano GT. Is that an auxiliary battery just for the start stop??? By unplugging this will there be any need for it? We always turn off the start stop feature as soon as my wife starts the car. We never use that feature. We just got the light for it this morning and it’s saying the aux battery may need replacing. What happens if we don’t?
Thank you for this video.
awesome thanks! could you do a video for a 2022 durango?
Watched this. Did this on my 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Couldn't get to unplug with my fingers. Pushed it off with a screwdriver. 1 minor arm scrape casualty. Peace now reigns in the land. Thank you!!!!
Most welcome my friend!!
Any check engine lights or anything come on since then? I seen another comment say they unplugged it but 2 years later check engine light came on
Disconnect light comes on but I just ignore it.
Just got a 2022 WL Grand Cherokee. Is it going to be similar to this?
will this work on 2017 compass too you think?
In Norther Virginia Traffic this feature is very annoying. They should set user options that allow you to set times before it activates, like if your vehicle is stopped for longer than 15 seconds it cuts off. At stop sign or stuck in stop and go traffic this feature is very annoying.
That’s why I’m always trying to figure out a way to over ride the system.
You sir are my hero!
Lol. I’m far from that bro.
VER NICE VIDEO. THANKS FOR THE TIPS!!!
Your Welcome. Thank you.
Awesome! Thanks man! Will like abs subscribe just for this tip!
Will this affect anything for emissions test ?
Is there any known....”Jumper Wire”. That does the same function as disconnecting the ESS voltage detector from the battery but still has the BCM and instrument cluster think the sensor is still connected?
Thanks for the information. I just bought a new 2018 Grand Cherokee with it and wondered how to shut it off permanently.
Lots of people don’t like it. Hope this helps. 👍
I wish someone would stage a online revolt about it, or a class action lawsuit happens. I just did it, and it works! But I'm also getting the (A)! symbol on my dashboard. Is there any way to get that off. Also I'm wondering if this voids any warranty?
Here is one for the wrangler some of these will work on the grand Cherokee.
Oh you splendid man!!!!
One thing I would recommend doing if your state you live in recquires a yearly car inspection plug it back up right before you go to make sure that the codes That show up from unplugging it do not fail your inspection.
Good idea. Not sure about all states but in North Carolina You would be fine. What state are you in?
I was wondering about that 😮
Thank you so much for this
Thank you very much for the information i went to jeep today and they told me it could not be done on my new Jeep did what you posted and it worked.Thanks a million
Jose Gonzalez yes sir! Your most welcome. I had to do something that feature is frustrating. Share with everyone you know that has a Jeep or Durango.
Question. Been jump starting my grand cherokee couple of times.. I know that the s/s feature is unavailable because probably the auxiliary battery is dead. 2017 still original main and auxiliary battery.. I heard that the aux drains main battery.. so is my battery bad or just getting drained by auxiliary? Should I change both or just auxiliary. Advance auto parts test said it was battery. Auto zone said it was at 50%. O'Reilly said it seemed ok... I just know it's not holding charge.. anyone help.
What if it is not disabled by me and the light comes on with the red battery light next to it. But not always. Does this mean the battery is going out?
Thank you so much! Just did it to my 2018 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk! Will never buy another vehicle with this BS feature again.
And burn up batteries. The dealership charged me 295.00 the car is isn’t even 3 years old. After the 36 months or 36000 miles. The warranty doesn’t cover the battery
I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee Altitude... it doesn’t bother me that much only in stop and go traffic... since I live in the south and the ac is on I turn the button off and
Nice and informative video, is there any way to stop the eco mode(cylinder deactivation)?
Unfortunately no.
Does the V8 5.7 2019 Trailhawk has ESS?? I can’t find the button on my Jeep to disabled I’m not sure if I even have it !!!
Stop/Start is to “Save gas” you can’t expect that if you buy a V8 haha.
Where is it located on a 2016 Jeep Cherokee Latitude? Im lookn to buying ine soon
Look into the seat belt buckle when its unbuckled it wont auto stop start but cant unplug it so add another under seat thats where im at tested and worked done
Thank you thank you thank you!
How are you disconnecting the harness without breaking it?
Thanks for posting. I'm wondering if you could put a small resistor on between the battery and the connector. This would report a lower voltage from the battery. Maybe the computer would think there is demand for the engine to be run. That could mean no light on the dash as well. I realize this would require a little more than simply disconnecting a cable.
I would be case full with that so it doesn’t full field the alternator.
@@BrandonHaneline Do not do that, the EMU reads the SOC of the battery via this sensor, it needs this information to ensure there is room within the battery for any energy regeneration, by inserting a resister in the data line to the sensor the EMU may be fooled into thinking there is room in the battery for the high voltage regeneration (up to 16volts) when there is not, this will destroy the battery. The whole idea is to always have around 20/25% room within the battery for regeneration to work efficiently, it`s all bulls**t really and the battery will die if not fully recharged on a regular basis, short journeys wont do that, DO NOT FOOL with system just disconnect the sensor and do nothing else.
Just a thought....
A two wire system. I wonder if the ecu is just looking for a change of resistance from this device fitted to battery wire? If so disconnect and fit a resistor of value across the across the wires so that fools the car into thinking that stop start shouldn't be allowed. Therefore no error on dash ? Trick is working out what resistance would trigger this
Thx!
I have a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I hope it works cause I can't stand that annoying feature. I k ow from being a mechanic for years that starting your vehicle numerous times on a daily basis will wear your starter and battery out sooner.
I followed your tips for my 2015 Trailhawk, and it work great... for a while. Eventually I kept getting an error message that said “battery safe mode” which as you know shuts down the radio, heated seats and a few others. I ended up replacing my battery after a failed test so I figured that was the problem, but it wasn’t. After having the new battery I kept getting the same error. I gave up and plugged it back in and no messages since.
Good idea, but my Jeep didn’t like the change.
Hmmm that the first I have hear of that. I had grand Cherokee unplugged for 2 years.
Yeah, it was pretty annoying.. I’d attach a pic but I don’t think I can
You should have monitored the charge rate to check before plugging sensor back in, an Ebay voltage monitor that plugs into the cig socket cost around £4.50, the charging voltage with sensor disconnected on my Merc`s is from 13.8 volts float to 14.4 volts charge, this voltage will fully charge an AGM battery.
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I just purchased a used 2015 jeep cherokee and it had this message and sometimes the car would jolt as if it wanted to shut off then the light on the dash came on, it got anoying so i took it back and they claimed to of replaced the battery and the sensor! But I bet the plug was just unplugged but I didn't check cause I didn't know at the time. But if that's the case this might cause the same symptom of the engine trying to shut off for a split sec then displaying the A symbol saying start stop system not ready battery charging service stop start. But I didn't like how the car dealt lime it was going to shut off.
It is possible. But if the Jeep was saying “ not ready battery charging” then it was plugged in and there is a problem with the stop start system.
thanks buddy
While the plug harness is unplugged, can you put a resistor into the harness so it doesn’t throw the light on the dash?... with these new LED screens it’s not as simple as pulling out the speedo cluster and pulling the tiny bulb out of the cluster. There’s got to be a way to disable the start/stop feature without throwing any codes or pushing the button. ECM flash maybe???
Yes. There are aftermarket plugins that will disable this feature. This is just the free way.
Go to this website and it should solve your particular problem. Yes the module is expensive but it WORKS...!!! www.smartstopstart.com
@@tomtalker2000 the way in this video doesn't cost $125 like that module. Imagine how many more of those modules would be sold if the price was more like $50. Selling thousands instead of a few hundred makes more sense.
ANSWER to HOW TO GET THE CLIP OFF: On my 2016 75th Ann. GC, I had to insert a very narrow 1/16 of an inch diameter flat blade screwdriver along the right side of that clip....and the clip is the part at the END of that entire black unit that connects to the battery post. So make sure you insert it in the clip itself and on the right side !!! After I slide it along the clip and left it there, I just pulled the clip off with 2 fingers. Hope this helps because I didn't see this answer anywhere else..lol
Thank you gentleman. I have a Darngo 2020 Standard and I am very tired of this . ! It is incomprehensible that a well-established company would do this work. Whenever I want to move the gear stick to the P position, the engine shuts down and then starts every time I start the engine unless I disable the system every time. I'm surprised that Doug doesn't have to be this way. The local company agent does not know how to solve the problem because he does not know what the problem is. I'm from saudi arabia
Question! I disconnected my negative battery terminals (I have two) and now my auto stop feature won’t work but I want it back. How can I get it back? My ABS and brake light will not go off either!
There is only one, it has 2 wires, supply and data.
Doing this will mess up the ECM batt voltage monitoring and micro charging variable output of your alternator voltage regulator. The digital regulator, with data per the ECM, is pulsing variable charge voltage based on the resistance, temperature and state of charge as your battery discharges ( usage, temp) and age. Suggest a better alternative is to jumper the Auto-Stop dash switch connector. Find a wire diagram and locate the switch button active circuit and the ground wire color code pinned to the connector. Make a simple jumper, insert to those two wires and you’ll disable this function without anomaly dash lights or charging issues. The ECM sees the button as pressed or activated=null. As always, some dissemble and reassembling is required. Or just remember to press the stupid button after startup. ;-)
why can't some fake steady module be plugged into that unplugged sensor, or where it was unplugged from?, like a certain resistor value, etc.. to fool it
I only see stop start feature as an annoyance. It is a horrible design if you ask me but whatever. Thank you for investigating. I've done a google search gallore for this and I came up short until I saw this. Looking into buying a used vehicle from ChryslerJeepDodgeRamFiat... etc. Being able to turn this feature off is a priority if I'm gonna buy a used car.
Since the off button already exist among other buttons like Sport and Eco off and P off. It seems like all Chrysler/JEEP has to do is program it in with all our other memory settings that remember our settings like A/C, seat, and mirrors. Problem solved. But unfortunately, when I start my jeep back up, the buttons go back to default.
If your biggest complaint of this is when you are going through drive-throughs @ 0:44 and it can be disabled by undoing seatbelt @ 0:57, why not just undo your seatbelt when going through a drive-through? I usually have to do this anyway to get my wallet out of my back pocket.
Thanks. Mine was actually malfunctioning. The light would come on and i would lose power. It was like driving a 2 cylinder engine.
what is the voltage it is looking for? and why can't you add a 6-volt resistor to trick the system into thinking its under the power level needed to let the auto start stop work?
Basically the intelligent battery Sensor monitors the amperage being used during a stop start event. So if it cannot measure the drawl that the vehicle is using then The stop start feature is disabled. I’m sure there are many different hacks to disable stop start. They all will end up with the same message on the cluster so disconnecting the intelligent battery Sensor seems to be the easiest for me
I have a 1967 Oldsmobile 98' can i use the same method to dissable my stop start?
Andrew Willis if it has an ibs (intelligent battery sensor then yes) Sure. Lol
I surely hope you said that with your tongue firmly planted in your cheek. In that old of a car you brain is the start/stop module......
There will be no cars built in 98'
I have two plugs in that location in my 2018 Chrysler Pacifica. Which one is the correct one to disconnect?
Tricia, email me at jeepinformant@gmail.com I’ll send a pic.
I just emailed you
I read there are issues with the battery not charging properly? I read some issues with charging.
Good tip! Ill just turn it off with the button tho!
I'm pretty sure the original concept of the start stop (ESS) feature was to cut emissions for fleet vehicles. IMO the amount of fuel it saves isn't worth the amount of engine and starter wear on your vehicle.
Works on the wife's 2017 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Holy balls that was annoying.
My biggest problem with ESS is not so
Much the fuel saving function but the extra wear/tear/cycles on the starter during re start and the mind conditioning of thinking the vehicle stalled. Also what if system fails when you really need it as in say emergency acceleration. I discounted the remote start disconnect plan for the ESS fault message and hadn’t even thought of the remote start and hood ajar Warning. ESS fault is a nuisance message but hold ajar is a safety related warning. If for some reason you accidentally leave hood ajar it could actually fly open and driver will think it was related to the remote switch being.unplugged Not a smart move and definitely won’t be done with my vehicle.
Now If we had replacement module that would simulate the current reading that satisfies the ESS. Then the ESS warning light wouldn't show.
Hello, I’m a newly Jeep Grand Cherokee 2019 buyer. I didn’t see my auto stop start working until now. And it’s pretty annoying, although I’ve been told I could simply turn it off once turning my vehicle on. My question is why is it that mine did not activate until now? If you have any idea please let me know.
same for me
2019 cherokee
kust started this week
At 3:19 you went all George Lucas on us.
I just push the button when I start the car it has become a habit no big deal. You start pulling wires and your asking for trouble they gave you a way to shut it off with the button.
Thank you, I was about to sell my jeep due to the start stop bothering me so much.
Just did my 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Passenger front seat, unplug the sensor as shown... NOTE: There is a small release clip on the side that has to be pressed, then it unplugs really easy.
do you have remote start and does it still work after disconnecting?
Could the vehicle configuration be changed in theory and remove the stop start code from the vehicle configuration completely?
Unfortunately no
@@BrandonHaneline Would using a tazer or alfaobd aftermarket programmer allow any disabling features? Would it also allow enabling/unlocking other pages like srt pages? Further yet- do the 2016's laredo have the electrical harness installed complete for non installed options like power liftgate and heated seats? (can i buy some heated seats, a rear door switch, overhead switch, power lift gate strut, install them and they work fine? thanks for info.
If they just gave a setting option of 1, 5 or 10 minutes before it shut off the engine I might use it.
I know. That would be very helpful!
had my latitude 2 years only & battery drained low this morning. GRRRRRRR
Thanks for the video but I can't seem to get the sensor off. Is there a trick to it?
You don’t take the Senor off just unplug it. There is a clip on the connector.
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@@BrandonHaneline How do you unclip it .
You forgot to mention pressing the release side of the plug so it comes off easily. Otherwise you could potentionally rip the wires out. The right side needs pressing in while pulling the plug.
I was wondering why tf my plug was so much more difficult than his. Thanks for the heads-up
If one is going to touch things on a car, they should at least have the understanding of how all car harnesses have some sort of locking mechanism and to know ahead that you have to do something.
Blindly reaching under there I could easily feel the squeeze mechanism. Took me 3 sec to notice and unplug.
If you're jamming flatheads into harnesses, you're in over your head.
That is the DUMBEST feature Chrysler could have come up with.... Even worse they could have easily programmed it to be normally off, and turned on manually.... What a dick move! Thanks for the video, I will be unplugging that sensor tonight!
What about the smaller Cherokee Trailhawk?
Yes this will work also. Just unplug the battery intelligent sensor. Let me know if it works.
@@BrandonHaneline but will that damage the battery or cause the light to come on on the dash?
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Does it work on the 21 grand Cherokee?
Absolutely, have had mine disconnected since 21...
Any idea if they moved this for the 2019 Jeep Cherokee? Checked under the passenger and driver seats, don't see anything. 😥
This is for the grand Cherokee
The Cherokee battery is under the hood. Use the same method.
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so there is a separate, smaller battery under the hood in addition to the main engine battery? In other words there are two batteries under the hood of 2109 Jeep Cherokees? Mine is a Latitude Plus... where abouts is this particular battery under the hood? the one where we can pull the plug to disable start stop feature on the 2019s?
Great work around for the #2 most annoying thing on the Grand Cherokee. If you can help me solve #1, you'd be my hero. Jeep has an overlay limitation to Carplay when the vehicle is in motion. You can't pick any artist or song in music app and you can't type in an address in Maps. I find this less safe than other installations of Carplay in other manufacturers because it makes you use your phone. Any sensors we can disable to trick Carplay into thinking you aren't in motion?
FluffingForbin thanks, ok I’ll give it a shot. Which iPhone do you have?
FluffingForbin have you tried the “hey Siri” feature?
I have iPhone 8 Plus but model of iPhone shouldn't matter. It's an overlay that Jeep adds to their Carplay instance. For example, VW and Audi do not restrict while vehicle is in motion. Yes, I realize you can do "hey Siri" but oftentimes you can't remember exactly what music you have on your phone and it's nice to be able to browse through. Also, Siri isn't as good as Google voice in terms of transcribing addresses, etc.
Yes you are right. I was going to just see which phone to use for an example. I’ll look into it.
What year make and model Jeep do you have. What radio is in it. Thanks. I’ll see what I can do.