Stop Start disabled Jeep Cherokee , Compass , Grand Cherokee
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2018
- How to disable essAuto Stop start can be very annoying on your new Jeep I will show you how to disable auto stop start feature (ESS) permanently on the Jeep Cherokee Jeep Grand Cherokee and Jeep Compass.
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The acronym for Automatic Stop Start is pretty funny considering how many people hate it.
You look like an Automatic Start Stop because the acronym is ESS
@@TheDiesel_JLU, you are a Automatic Stop Start....
Omg!! Thank you so much. This continuous light has been driving me insane. I have taken it to several dealers and sadly to say these kids working as service managers do not have a clue. I finally read my Manuel cover to cover then turned to CZcams and there you were. I did not know my compass (Bullet) had two batteries. I had learned how to work around the start stop on my own but then the light just decided to stay on one day. So Annoying!! Now this 60 year old woman can go in and school these kids on a thing or two. Lol thank you once again for saving my sanity ❤
It worked with my grand cherokee 2019. Thanks 👍🏻
Most informative, I almost had an accident yesterday because of this feature. Thanks from down under.
Jeep should have this feature turned off by default, then push the button if you want it activated. Seems there should be simple wiring fix. Great video on how to work around it!
It’s a government mandate that’s why it’s there and defaulted to be on. Gotta love the EPA 🙄
Thanks for the insight. I just unhooked the connector and success.
Enjoyed your video! I just hope the Jeep engineers research these sights and realize that NOBODY likes the Start/Stop feature on their Jeep!!!!! Give us a permanent fix Jeep!!!!!!!!
God bless you! I did it with success. I HATE the start stop feature. I didnt mind it at first and now it drives me nuts. It slows you down, it prevents you from excelling and it almost caused an accident because it stopped and started to quickly and my car didnt work properly. I hate it.
We have a 2016 Cherokee Limited. Love this vehicle! But hate the start/stop feature - especially in stop & go traffic at red lights with long backups. You can feel a slight body jiggle and a short delay everytime it auto-starts. We press the "A" button everytime we start the vehicle but worry about the button itself wearing out. Can the wires to the button be jumpered permanently?
Is there a way to lengthen the time stopped before activation?? We drove a new 2019 that didn't seem to go into that mode as fast, made me wonder if there is a way to adjust time frames that system waits before shutting off that car. It HAS to add wear and tear to the start motor! What a lousy feature for every one involved.
Weird, my 2018 Grand Trailhawk with a Hemi doesn't have this "feature". Thank God.
I almost got in a couple of accidents in a Jeep Compass rental I had in Florida. (Turning left and the engine had to start before it would move, almost got t-boned)
Thanks for the video. I will use the manual at stops for all rentals.
Very informative Brandon
I've got such a muscle memory now and a habit to hit the button and don't even know it. That amber fault light would drive me nuts!!
I do not like the auto stop/start feature, but as I watched my wife slide her foot from the brake to the gas I noticed that she had her foot on the gas pedal and pressing down before the engine was half the idle RPM which means that the oil pressure was more than likely not at the proper oil pressure, which means additional internal engine wear and tear down the road. Since we discussed it she now does not try to accelerate until the RPM's are back to idle. She plays the lights and watches the cars in front to ease up on the brake to start the engine sooner to prepare for accelerating. We always forget to turn that feature off.
Awesome and very Informative video...thanks
My 2018 JGC Altitude just needed a jump due to me leaving a reading light on. AAA driver told me the battery should be replaced, but which battery was he referring to, the main or the baby battery? Thanks!
Thank a for the tip man! Much appreciated! I hate that thing. I live in South Florida and the ac is always a on and that start stop kicks back on after a few seconds every time. It must ware out the battery and starter.
and ENGINE!!
Hey Brandon, Does the 2021 Limited model have the same issue? When I bought mine, it was disabled default, should I activate it?
Thanks, also did my sons 2019 VW Jetta !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much...i couldnt even wait til sunlight, i went out at 1am & unhooked that wire. So glad i found this out in the first half of the first year of my lease & not the last half of the last year...
It also works on Mercedes C-Class cars including SLK`s and the Porsche Boxster/Cayman 981, probably works an all stop/start vehicles. This hack also disables smart charging, your engine management unit will now instruct the alternator to work in a standard continuous charging regime as was the case pre stop/start. With sensor disconnected any equivalent sized lead acid battery can be used and NO coding is necessary as EMU does not now know what type of battery is in the car. With a continuous charging regime the battery will now always remain fully charged or near to, unlike with smart charging where the battery can be as low as 75% charged waiting for any regeneration, win win.
Great video! I am wondering if there is a way to disable the auto brake when wheeling with my 18' Renegade TH. I sometimes like to open the door while the vehicle is running to check my ground clearance. This auto locks the parking brake which is a huge pain. Thanks.
My parents are looking to buy a brand new Grand Cherokee, but HATE the ASS System. This will make them so happy!!!
Hello thanks for great video..does 2016 Jeep Cherokee has auxiliary battery or only the sensor ?
can the sensor for the seatbelt be disconnected or is it to difficult to get too or would it cause other issues? i'd check my Cherokee but it's below zero out there right now.
To get rid of the indicator just drain the auxiliary battery and plug back in the cable to the fully drained auxiliary battery.
How I figured this out:
The main battery on my Jeep died. Not sure why. Shortly after (4 months) I bought a brand new 2016 Jeep Cherokee Latitude with only 6 miles on it.
Took it to Jeep and they said one of the battery cells was bad. I said cool story bro please replace the battery. Thank you sir. So they replaced it with a new main battery. They put a Newman battery on and ever since I have not had the stop start feature work. Hallelujah!! Every time I stop the engine always stays on and there is no auto stop start indicator light showing. It’s been 3 years this way. I don’t have to hit that button.
So how this happened is because that auxiliary battery is dead and it will not charge. Keeping the auxiliary battery this way (dead) has fixed the issue of not having to press that button each time to disable it.
So I have something similar happen. The light came on and the dealership said I needed to replace the auxiliary battery because it’s going out. However they said I need to replace it because it will drain the main battery? I was planning on just leaving it there “dead” but I’m afraid it will mess up the main one?
I use to push the button everytime i got in and after a while i got the warning light on the dash anyway. What do you think happened there. Said to svc start stop
Befrore you did the "fix" why is the message "Start/Stop Not Ready Battery charging" displayed?
Well Done!
I have two batteries--a main battery and an auxiliary start / stop battery. I disconnected the ESS plug from the auxiliary battery. Can I just remove the auxiliary battery or does it do more than just power the ESS feature? Thanks
I know it been a year but could you plug something in the the sensor you unplugged to trick the thing? If so please tell! Thanks!
What about disconnect IBS,u said that IT is used monitor the battery and i read is ibs also used to charged battery with appropiate voltage.how do u respond to this?
Unfortunately the battery plug disconnect method did not work as described above on my 2019 Compass Sport model. The check engine light came on after the change and I put the plug back in. It did go out shortly thereafter.
I unplugged the hood scencer on my 2015 jeep Cherokee trail hawk. And I only get the warning message every so often. Not every time.
The government mandated this stop/start crap! To save gas& reduce emissions! Jeep has done a 100% better job with a dash button to disable than most other manufacturers
My start/stop feature didn't work when i purchased my 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited in 2023. I thought it had been disabled by the previous owner. My battery died a year later and i found out i had a main battery and auxiliary battery. After they were replaced the start/stop feature works just fine. And the remote start on the key fob has started working again.
this is just a dumb thing for any manufacturer to do. no matter what anyone says, engine lifespans are drastically shortened when they are constantly shutting off and turning on
Really wished Jeep gave us the option to turn the system on with push button instead of permanently on.
Thanks for the info.
Knowing this I will be able to work programming a plug that can be placed in between the sensor and the battery. I’m not a car expert but I am a code expert and I would love to work on this.
Thanks. Love my jeep. Hate that function.
Thank you
Great tip, If I unhook the sensor cable on my Compass, will I ever need to replace that small battery again? Thank You
I dont own one of these yet but soon ima get my wife a compass trailhawk in addition to our jlur so thanks for this video brother your always the first of bringing us awesome valuable info about our beloved Jeeps
Side question what you think a compass trailhawk or cherokee trailhawk and whats the main difference other than the obvious difference as size and engine choices... extra extra
That’s it. Just style. Cherokee does have a better 4x4 system. Thank the compass. If you going off-road may want to get the Cherokee.
Yeah shes going off road and we gonna use it for long trips as well want a comfy suv lol
Thanks bro Jeep is Deferent other Vachal cars that very nic driver #
could have skipped the 1st 5min50sec to get to the point. thx it worked
Ok. Mines needed an oil change it deactivated itself. After the oil change it has not corrected. How do i do away with the dash light and enable this feature again.
I bought the ‘Smart Stop/Start’ for $125..... I know it’s $125 but, no touching the button, no unplugging anything, no trying to get to know something a bit better, no turning my wheel.... now, all I have to do is get into my Jeep and drive it like I want it to be. I live in TX and just got home from work and it’s 10am in the morning and it’s already 90° outside, nothing like getting blasted in the face by hot air at every stop light.
Where did you get this?..Just bought a '17 JGC and I already hate this feature!!
Ditto- works great!
What a pain in the arse!
We just rented a Compass and now I know that in my future there will be no Jeeps for me.
So Jeep, does this gas savings device make up for the difference of the cost of a starter that wares out 4 times faster not to mention early engine ware every time the engine starts ( no oil flow or pressure at initial stat) lol
I just bought a start/stop eliminator that plugs in line and remembers the last setting so, once you turn off the vehicle, the start stop is off unless you push the button to turn it back on.
Disclaimer, you will have to dismantle your dash.
Just pushing the button would be easier than any of those ideas 🤣🤣 personally i paid $129.00 for a module that plugged in under my drivers seat in less than 60 seconds and it remembers the last setting as the default setting at start up i love it! Every time I start my Cherokee Trailhawk Elite the off light comes on the button automatically without any dash lights or any side effects and if i want it back on for some reason all I have to do is push the button again...basically where you have the button set at stays there even after turning the engine off and back on worth every penny..Google it
My JGC Summit has a option to just turn it off. I guess they didn't add it to the Cherokees. That sux...
💥 And I’m here for just the opposite.
I’m an old muscle car guy who drives his daughters Compass once in a while and loves the ESS feature. It makes no sense for the engine to be running while I’m stopped for a long time. Lately it does not seem to be working and I was wondering if I accidentally turned the feature off in the menu system somewhere. There is no button on her 2018 Trail Rated Compass dashboard
My old Jeep 2016 Cherokee had a setting to delay that system for different increments. I set it for 15 minutes. Traded it in for a 2019 Grand Cherokee and that setting is not there. 😕. I hate that feature and it’s a pain to keep hitting that button.
I have the same model you have there where is the aux battery?
I was thinking of putting a jumper on the switch on the dash. That way it thinks you have pressed the button to turn off.
Thanks for this. Would you know if this would affect the remote start feature? I drive a 2020 cherokke trailhawk elite. I've been told this sart/stop feature drains battery during extreme cold winter days. Is this true, my cars battery is completely drained and I'm trying to figure out what caused it.
Yes it will, mine didn't work after disconnecting it.
Thank you for this. I wish I didn't need to disconnect something to disable this feature, but if it is not hurting anything else, I would prefer to deal with the additional chime/message when I start the car and the lit up A on the bottom right than turning it off every time.
You don't have to disconnect anything buy this you will be happy you did
www.smartstopstart.com/jeep-dodge-chrysler.html
What do you do when the light comes on and you haven’t disconnected it
I have a very old jeep that I use daily to go back and forth to the stores and train station. I do not like to take it on long trips for fear it will break down so when I was recently making a trip to Queens, I decided to rent a car. I ended up renting a Jeep Compass. Of course driving most of the way was on the LIE and not alot of traffic so it did not engage until I arrived in Queens. I thought there was something wrong with it and that I was going to get stuck. It was not until I dropped the car off the following day that I mentioned this issue to the person at the rental counter and he explained this was a fuel economy feature which could be turned off with a button. It would have been nice if he told me that when I picked up the car. I have panic attacks when I think I might get stuck and now that I know about it, I will be more prepared. I am glad there is a way to permanently disengage it, but Jeep should not force it on people to remember to turn it off everytime they start the car. I thank you for this video.
Beware that sensor is used in Battery Management Systems (48V). Your battery will age more quickly and you'll have a very expensive battery to replace by shortening the life, not to mention there are other implications that disabling part of the BMS will have on the 48V systems. Algorithms rely on this input not just for Start/Stop but for other decisions being made in that electrical system.
Thank you! the stop and start feature was annoying me!!
me too!!
@@BrandonHaneline Your video is helpful!! I thought there was no way to turn it off but thanks for figuring out a way! 🙏🏽
I hate pushing the button. I rather unplug the sensor. Thanks!
As a grand cherokee owner, i have figured out a way to not even have this stupid feature even on your jeep right from the factory, simply buy a grand cherokee with a HEMI, problem solved forever.
My stop/start on 2019 jeep cherokee overland 4x4 2.0 liter engine.
Keeps telling me "Battery is charging".
Has not worked in 2 or 3 months.
I believe it save me gas in city driving may 2 or 3 m.p.g.
There has to be a way to hack the reset on the start stock button. Why can’t you make it stay in an on and off state forever
There are aftermarket programmers that can do that
@@BrandonHaneline that’s not a hack. Learn the definition of hack.
That falls under soccer mom husbands credit card garbage electronics.
good Vid. How about if I put the shifter in Neutral while stopped? Will that disable the Stop Start?
If you’re going into that effort you might as well hit the button, a lot of small but extra wear on transmission parts
If you start the vehicle and it's on a nose down gradient and then you back out and stop and your nose is nose up on a steep gradient to start system will disengage at my house I park in my driveway nose down which is a 30° down angle when I back out of my driveway there's an immediate Hill right behind it which is a 30 degree up angle that disables to start system for me at startup every time
I hate this feature on our Cherokee Trailhawk. I would put a little piece of black electrical tape over that trouble light to stop the annoyance.
Auto /Stop /Start is the absolute worst feature car companies ever installed. I'd rather pay the extra gas than dealing with this crap every single day. Love it when it stops and won't turn back on leaving me stranded in a drive through like it did a few weeks ago.
Jeep played the EPA as the city part of the test is 1/2 stopped! No gas is actually saved maybe a pint/mo!
Not to mention it will wear out your starter quicker
Does the stop start wear out the battery or starter sooner than normal? Thanks
Both the battery and the starter have been upgraded to handle more stress.
@@BrandonHaneline when were they upgraded?
I wish we can do this to our jls auto stop is annoying specally in winter when you have heat blasting on your hand and the jeep kills it self
You can just unplug the battery intelligent sensor. Works on the JL also.
JeepInformant
I didnt know I thought I can only take the hood thingies out I forgot what its called lol
Backcountry Ohio oh yes. Definitely. I show you here Two ways. check this out. 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL most annoying feature disabled 🔴 Auto Stop Start (ESS) czcams.com/video/Nh2A5vpzZCA/video.html
2020 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Elite i bought a plug in module that remembers the last setting as the default setting at start up, when i start the engine the ESS off light automatically comes on and it doesn't effect anything else doesn't trigger any warning lights on the dash
What is the name of this plug in module and where can I buy one?
@@JustMe-fs2yh buying one now. Thanks for the quick reply!
You left out the easiest way to disable ESS for free is to simply set your HVAC to MAX A/C
Genius! Works!
What are your thoughts on the pros and cons of disconnecting the hood sensor on a 2018 Grand Cherokee? I'm hesitant to disconnect the battery sensor which seems like the best method otherwise, only because it could cost $300 every few years to replace it if it dies prematurely.
You can give it a try but the remote start won’t work.
Those battery’s don’t last 3 years as it is. The BIS unplugged will not effective battery life.
@@BrandonHaneline Thanks for the info informant! We have a base model Laredo without remote start, so it seems like both methods might work for us. Would it would affect an aftermarket remote start too? We were planning to get one installed eventually.
I guess if the aftermarket unit monitors the hood switch. Maybe ask before purchasing
I always wondered how much it shortens the life of the starter.
Starters have been beefed up to handle the extra starting.
Does doing this void your warranty???
That's got to be extremely hard on the starter motor ! . and the battery
I believe I have this feature in my jeep Cherokee. I’m not sure how to work it but mines doesn’t come on at all 🤷🏼♀️ I don’t really know lol
Its on the wrangler too
Yes that’s. Correct. I have just done multiple videos on the wrangler stop start and the other boys was needed some attention. 😊
Will doing this void the factory warranty?
I have a 2018 Compass and i have had issues with the car not restarting after the automatic stop at a light. What a pain .
I'm sending this to my buddy
Umbrellas876 Poor rain please do. So many people don’t like this feature.
@@BrandonHaneline he has a 2017 grand Cherokee. Super annoying feature. Feels like your $40,000 jeep just conked out....no thanks
Wouldn’t unplugging the intelligence sensor cause other harm to the battery?... *overheating, running a high voltage?
Actually no. The algorithms for charging the battery are in the PCM. The PCM monitors the state of charge like we’ve always done in the past. The intelligent battery sensor is mainly used to see the current draw on a stop start event. I ran a jeep Grand Cherokee for over two years and never had an issue yet.
Alright, it’s just the auto stop sensor; not for the battery itself.
That’s correct.
@@BrandonHaneline im getting a message after unplugging the battery intelligence sensor plug in my 2019 Cherokee when i remote start, it is showing me "SVC 4WD" and im hoping by that battery intelligence sensor being not plugged in that im going to lose performance or my 4WD is going to not work? That "SVC 4WD" indicator light does go away once i start the car after remote starting though. Any info you can pass along would be very helpful.
you better cover that plug so crap cant get in it and cause a short
When I turn off the Stop/Start feature by the button (in the console) it stays off even after a new start of the vehicle. I have a 2018 Compass.
So when you press the button the light comes on which means it’s deactivated. So Are you saying that if you cut the jeep off, open the door, shut the door, start the jeep. The auto stop start button light is still on or is it off.
When the light is on the stop start is off when the light is off the stop start is on.
In export jeep compass and cherokee you can disable start/stop by simply clicking the off button. It stays off for good. AFAIK this is not possible in the new grand cherokee.
@@BrandonHaneline The button remains illuminated after a new start, even the next morning in the garage. But it's this German version of the Compass maybe the behavior differs from the American version.
You are so lucky
Not sure why I waited 4 years to look this up, but I’ll disconnect that puppy tomorrow; the lag has nearly gotten me killed a couple of times, less than a mile from the house as that is usually my first stop/start opportunity. I’ll cut a small electrical tape disc and block the yellow dash light - out of sight, out of mind!
if you disable the seatbelt chime you won't have to worry about the start/stop to work
How? Thats another feature i hate...
If you left you’re seat belt un buckled it would keep dinging at you non stop...
No, I am not looking to purchase a Jeep or any SUV, for that matter, with a built-in annoyance feature we need to work around. The Compass also has an annoying habit of engaging its emergency brake whenever you put it in park. Ugh.
i agree i hate all of those features
You can disable the auto parking brake in the settings, on the uconnect screen
yea that parking brake thing was easy to disable
so basically all options provide more inconvenience than start/stop itself))
Seriously this ESS function is the dumbest thing that FCA forces down any Jeep owner’s throat, and compounds the pain by not letting you just disable it. In a previous 2017 Grand Cherokee the ESS was a pain but at least the engine started up quickly. The 2.4 in a 2019 Compass takes a bit more to start up in a pinch so it gets super annoying at a stoplight. It’s about as stupid as the firmware running on the 9 speed A/T that can’t ever find what gear to stay in. Beloved Jeeps..... Not. These stupid things are poorly built and rebadged Fiats
Does the little battery ever have to be replaced
Yes if it will not hold a charge
@@BrandonHaneline mine has been reading start stop not ready, charging
@@BrandonHaneline so at this point do you think the dealership would be best to change the battery or can I without voiding any warranty?
They will have To test
I tried this on my 2019 Jeep Compass after the start/stop feature left me stranded at a stop light with a stalled engine. The only issue that I have is the check engine light came on also. I don't mind the disable icon but I don't like the check engine light on. I ended up using the hood sensor disable method.
Brandon, so I took my car to the dealership today and they said I needed to replace my auxiliary battery... I came across your video after looking it up on here . So I’m wondering if I don’t replace the auxiliary battery will that drain the main battery and cause issues?
I forgot to mention, the start/stop is not working because of this and the light is on as well . I don’t mind either of this issues. I was just thinking if it would be ok to just unplug it like you did on the video and not replace the current battery?
It kills me they let you permanently turn park assist off but not stop start
Is there gonna be a bad side effects if i will this to my 2019 jeep cherokee?
im wondering the same??
Same!
Looks like still no answer to our question here.
Buy a standard-shift Jeep Compass or Renegade and the ESS is not available. My solution!
I nearly was in an accident due to needing to turn and the engine was off throwing off timing. It should be an option to disable completely without having to do all this.