Tamurkhan Rises! The Maggot Lord & Legions of Nurgle Arrive to Lorebeards w/ Andy Law & Sotek
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- Join Andy Law & Loremaster of Sotek as they join the decaying horde of Tamurkhan, the Maggot Lord! What horrid creatures and monstrous soldiers march alongside this Chaos Champion? Join us as we delve fully into the rotten legions to learn the dark truths of Grandfather Nurgle.
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The more I learn about Warhammer fantasy, the more I hate the End Times. Ooh what could have been with these 4 books.
Trust me reading those load of crap (not to mention forking out over $100 AUD for them) was worse. What really annoyed a lot of us was that we believed that the books would reflect the Storm of Chaos campaign which Order won and were expecting it to herald a new Warhammer Fantasy not the bastardised W40k Age of Sigmar that came out instead.
Welcome aboard
Nurgle, the god of rebirth lore on Mothers Day? Perfect 👌🏼
Nurgle: Ma'lady
M'laria
Is the name “the maggot lord” as popular as the name “Andy” that work at GW
I am not even that big on Nurgle but man Tharmukhan but is so good its such a shame we never got the rest of the series.
I want to see Theodore Bruckner vs Naryska Leysa. Big human battle.
Bruckner knocks off Leysa’s helmet and then they immediately start making out.
Take care of your mothers today,guys
Sorry I missed the stream ❤
They could probably set the remaining books during the old world, given how old tamurkhan was and the idea that he chased a prophecy that may have already been fulfilled to his death is a neat idea in my opinion. Not that it will ever happen.
49:10 - Absolutely this I recall half a lifetime ago and being on 1st name basis with the GW store guys and NONE none! Talked about Fantasy it was ALL 40k from the staff.
I wish the khorne brother leaned more into the priest, miracle side of khorne. I know khorne hates magic, but I know that magic is separate to faith, so I wish there was a cool khorne priest character
Khorne doesn't really have priests because the best way to appease the Blood God is not through faith or praying but by spilling more blood through combat. So the best 'priest' of Khorne is the one who is best at combat, so not actually a priest but a warrior
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r there are actually, in at least 2 black library books there appears a character that is a Bloodfather. He is essentially a holy man for Khorne that is mostly a warrior, but also guards and tends to holy sites of Khorne.
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r Khorne does have priests, but the best way isn't by spilling blood through combat. It's spilling blood period, remember - Khorne does not care from whence the blood flows, only that it flows. Andy made an excellent point in an older lore stream that something as simple as a barber surgeon _could_ be an excellent cover for a Khornate cultist because each cut on a patient leads to bleeding that praises Khorne.
I don't really like the idea of Khorne having priests, in the sense of guys using miracles in battle like the priest of Sigmar. Godly miracles are magic too, but the god allows the priest to use it instead of the guy being a mage (aka having an hability to manipulate the aethir by himself), so khorne granting miracles to someone is totally out of character for him.
I'm genuinely saddened that I kinda missed all this as I was too young at the time. I love AoS, but the lore for fantasy was top-notch. Hope they take the old world too the next level and we get more books like Tamurkhan.
What if Sayl was Tamurkhan’s brother but pretending to be someone else all along, trying to hide his time and steal victory from Tamurkhan at the last second?
omg Sayl is such an interesting character!
He could have some fun mechanics if he gets into the game.
2:22:30 The strength of goblins.
Nurglings looking like cute little children is a funny reference to small children actually being manifestations of Nurgle
A variety of thoughts I had during the video
I was really surprised reading the story how much of it focused on just the Chaos side and how long it took to reach the Empire. It is really about Tamurkhan's and his followers journey with the Empire just happening to be the final boss. I also felt that characters like Elspeth, Drazhoath, and Sayl were going to be reoccurring characters due to how they were written and the story lines that were hinted at. The fact that Cathay was part of the story especially since it was said that Sayl would return does make me wonder if Forgeworld were considering creating a Cathayan armylist if the series had continued. However characters like Kayzk were so overshadowed that the likes of Olghust Vipergut who is just a background chaos lord feel more relevant to the story.
Regarding the assassination attempt I honestly thought it was Elspeth with it supposed to be foreshadowing to how she would eventually slay Tamurkhan and it is worth noting that due to the assassin's body destroying itself Tamurkhan knew that whoever sent it knew about his true form and bodysnatching skills.
I did end up feeling sorry for Tamurkhan in the end due to how much crap he went through such as loosing 2/3rds of the Zanbijin army before reaching the Empire.
Quickly regarding Vostrogath I do think that while he is a neat character he doesn't feel as interesting as Tamurkhan both because he doesn't have his story told but also because he leans into a lot of standard Khorne tropes while Tamurkhan stood out from his at the time contemporaries. Does make me want to try creating my own version though.
I do wonder how many of the ideas created for the Throne Books were instead used in ET and AoS especially the Khorne stuff.
You know I discovered one shouldn't assume CA is going to follow any lore when it comes to creating victory conditions. I started a Tamurkhan campaign assuming that it would have one of the victoiy conditions being reaching Nuln. So I marched west (after having to deal with a VERY boisterous Tsar Boris), and appreciated Tamurkhan's dilemma half way across the Darklands as to which way to go. I ended up going via the Silver Pinnacle pass then got distracted sacking cities in Southern Kislev, Ostermark before heading through Talebecland, detour north to link up with Festus before finally heading south wet to Nuln. AND then discovered that the victory conditions required me to destroy three factions all the way back where I had started! So don't do what I did and read what your short campaign conditions are before you set out.
Thanks for the stream guys and you made me appreciate the problems Tamurkhan had when he went on his journey. I intentionally didn't look at a map and I can now appreciate Tamurkhan's dilema (also I needed to sack a city every turn to pay for my armies upkeep as I was 1000+ in debt per turn.
Great content as usual ❤
Sotek you got things a bit wrong about the mountains of mourn part, Tamurkhan was happy to fight the ogres and Greasus, but the pass through his kingdom was blocked by a wall of rocks and so they had to go further south for another pass to the west.
Tamurkhan with Theodore's body might have been scarier than the Tyrant
Ta for the stream lads, couldn’t watch live - YT just kept stopping and starting on me 😢
I really wonder why Sayl isn't one of Tamurkhan's heroes. Would've been a great way to include a relatively minor character.
My guess would be that CA is planning on using him as part of a different roster such as Norsca.
HELL YEAH
Please do an episode on the Kurgan people they are so interesting!!!
Did they do the throne of chaos stream yet? Can’t Seem to find it anywhere
This is throne of decay stream lol
If they had made Kayzk silent intentionally that would’ve been cool, like Phoenix Guard.
Please make the stream about the other brothers happen!
Norgle
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Before I watch the Video, GW abandoning the Whole Throne of Chaos Series and leaving it ad just a Nurgle book is one of biggest Hobby Grudges - This Fantasy versions of essentially Imperial Armour was a new and abandoned era of Warhammer.
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Of late, it feels like the main subject content has slipped a bit to the side or quickly rushed through in places compared to the side conversations and multiple lengthy pauses to catch up on chats. I feel that if maybe the non-joke chats were more often tied in to the weeks content it would be much better, but it does not feel that way to me the last few months.
Thank you for everything you two do, and much love as always.
All firimarch balefiends are female, right?
came up with 2 of tamurkhan's siblings if we designed them
Ka'uthah, daughter of the changer, the witch of the under wave,
a horrific Mutant with aspects of a ray and mullsk her children are her spys as she can see and speak through her offspring she slowly built her forces slowly under ulthuan slowly influencing merchants and sailors to decented into the depths to join her army of Creatures mutated by her magics
and
Bolw'gar the red glaser that walks
this child of korne resembles a mammoth more than a man roming the grate mountains in the southlands away from the petty ways of his kin he hunts the creatures of the jungle claiming there skulls for his God tearing heads off using his toothed trunk placing them into a basket he carries upon his back cults following his carnage feeding upon the rivers of blood that flow from he's foot prints
rough drafts of course
All of tamurkhan’s siblings were male, so your idea of a daughter makes no sense.
And the khorne brother was name dropped in age of sigmar.
@jarlwilliam9932 it's just a fun thing of what I would do if I could make them and a tzeench witch is cool
@@jarlwilliam9932 ngl a tzeentchian genderbending mutation would still be neat
wrote the last kid
Sacore the web weveer, the mantis of the east
a warrior from the east that few know the true origins of the 4th of the tamurkhan siblings covered in a thick layer of chitin the 4 armed 6 eyed warrior trained in the far east from nimpon to Cathay rading the lands of weapons and new techniques to master in there attempt to perfect all forms of killing, of note is his infamous duel with Yuan Bo in which the jade dragon cut out one of his eyes now planing for revenge Sacore now seeks a weapon that can Mach Dragon's fang in the depths of lustrea
@@jarlwilliam9932 What is the name and where is the khorne brother mentioned if you dont mind?
if you mean Vorgaroth there isnt really a confirmation of him being a tamurbro.
they made theador into a suicide bomber jihadist against his well :(