@@ChrisDied since we reached this milestone (spoken of by OP) give it some time let ev charging stations increase in numbers, even more than 5000 miles won't be an issue... Its not a matter of if, its just a question of when..
@@tonybtrucks3029 ALL I drive is manual. What do you mean by "where you going with this"? I already made my point. Did it sail right over your head? The point is that it requires NO SKILL to push a pedal to the floor and hold a steering wheel straight. Here you are congratulating a driver for his great performance when IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY SKILL with an automatic and launch control. A child could do it. What part of this are you not comprehending?
@@Unit_104really? I’m giving the driver of the ZR1 a compliment for a good launch and probably one of the better times he’s run only to have your insecure ass criticizing the compliment. That’s about as pathetic as it gets.
Recently took a ride in a Plaid. The torque is mind blowing. Your eyes go to the back of your head, your stomach feels like you road a ride on the fair midway. The car is scary fast.
I was just thinking the same thing. Great off line but the transmission is the killer. Having to convert power of the motor, losing power in that conversion, and then having to fight with a direct driven electric motor throwing all of its torque and power to the wheels, it's a wrap
For some reason some people feel like Teslas are an encroachment on American muscle, but they fail to realize Tesla is the most American made American Vehicle in the USA. It is American to the bone, and is the modern day muscle car.
Model S is near 100% American. Very little of it is made outside USA. 3 and Y are consumer products, made where the buyers are. Texas and Berlin have hardly got started.
@@davidelliott5843 No. Wrong. 3 and Y and arguably more american than S and X. 3 and Y get their battery cells from Nevada whilst S and X get theirs from Japan.
To everyone pointing out that the plaid is fast, *yes, we know*. I think we are all just impressed that someone managed to race against a plaid and *not* look like their car was standing still. In fact, after just running a 9, I will bet that Tesla driver was at least a little surprised to look out his peripheral vision a second into the race and actually see his opponent THERE, and not entirely in his rearview mirror. Give that Vette and it’s driver some credit.
Why would anyone give a Corvette credit? All that Motor and no technology. My M8 is like my copilot. I talk to it to change music switch driving modes and book and cancel appointments while it navigates me, gives me a massage, and gets me to your moms house in record time
I love this weird transition period from gas to electric we’re in, this comment section pretty much all agrees that the Plaid is basically gonna win against most gas cars in drag races but that doesn’t take away from us noticing the guy who lost really did a great job.
I'm not convinced that electric cars are the future. You can take the Vett on a road trip but you can only take your Tesla to the damn grocery store, then it's back to your home charger. So, you're paying lot's more for a car with limited range that actually presents more of a deleterious impact on the environment than it's fossil fuel counterparts. Additionally, all of this comes at the expense of the American taxpayer who's on the hook to provide subsidies for people who purchase of these stupid golf carts! I really hope the extra acceleration is worth it to you...
@@pinkydavis6113 Funnily enough, the Tesla has more range than the Corvette. And EVs have a smaller impact on the environment than equivalent ICE cars. Read any total environmental impact report.
@@logitech4873 The average range of gas fueled vehicles is 412 miles while the average Tesla Golf Cart is under 350 miles. When you consider the limited number of charging stations there's no comparison regarding convenience. I don't know what environmental impact reports you're reading but it sounds like Democrat propaganda. Mining enough REE's to bring enough batteries to market will completely destroy entire echo systems, the disposal of these short lived batteries is also a huge environmental problem, and the electricity needed to accommodate the increased demand comes largely from coal. Additionally, the cost of converting our infrastructure will be billed to the American taxpayer. So I hope all of you Tesla driving virtue signalers feel real superior tooling around town...
When I worked for a Lexus dealer back in 2007-8 they made a variant of the Gs series cars that was a hybrid gas/electric called the gs450h. When I got to inspect/pdi my first one off the truck and I did the 10 mile test drive I was blown away by the torque that car produced. I remember thinking then that electric cars are gonna be some of the fastest cars on the market and on top of that without adding anything to them. They are like that straight out the box, that car could run in the 9s all day with a trunk full of groceries, 4 people and a baby seat in the back.
The speed of an EV is one thing, but a lot of people underestimate the advantage they have when they don't have to shift gears. The Tesla just pulls all the way and the other cars fall back a bit every time they shift gears.
@@HoldFastFilms lol which is what a massive lithium battery can't handle overtime. You do realize these things blow up more than the media reports? This is like the scam video with the truck pulling a 4×2 ford with no load in the back. Next time they used a f250 with a light load and it toyed with the tesla. Not many people comprehend torque and mechanics which is why that video was misleading.
That’s so right, before Tesla they talked shit about horse powers, zero to sixty etc. Now, they said “oh well corvette got a better sound, Ferrari is better looking, Lamborghini is cool “😂😂😂😂
A car where your grandmother can push a button and do a 10 second quarter mile does not impress me as much as a stick shift car with no traction control and loses by a few car lengths.
Aint it crazy back in 60s /70s made some beautiful Air Power for the USA but we were building SQUARE CARS....... you can see we were way behind the times...
@@mikeyfourbarrel8473 First cars were steam then came electric and gas. In the late 1800's (1896 I think) there were more electric cars than gas, sometimes society makes the wrong turn. "Electric vehicles actually have their origin in the 1800s. The first American electric car was developed by William Morrison in 1891. His six-passenger wagon reached a top speed of 14 mph (though it is worth noting that in 1899 the land speed record was set by an electric vehicle at 66 mph)." Where would battery tech be if we didn't make that mistake?
Anyone who hasn’t experienced a Tesla S is missing out. It’s just mind blowing. I have had sone fast cars and motorcycles (turbo/n2o drag cars, Hayabusa etc.. 8 sec quarters. 227 mph top end. But I drive just a regular dual motor S (not even a plain) and it made me seriously giggle. I immediately called my car buddies and told them what they are missing out. Unless you have driven or ridden in one, you just can’t explain the substantial acceleration. Absolutely amazing.
5-seater family sedan with two large trunks vs 2 person sports car with barely a small trunk.. Props to the vette for knowing how to launch but it’s mind blowing how fast the Tesla is. Imagine if Tesla had a car similar to the Corvette..
When I was a teenager working in a huge warehouse, riding across the warehouse in an electric cart, I always wondered what if they could just put in a giant battery and big electric motor in one of those. Wouldn’t it just practically fly off the ground? Well, here we are it seems.
@@davieee1168 serious questions: Is building a Tesla and its batteries that much worse on the environment than building any other car? Does the 1 time impact of mining whatever is needed for the batteries affect the environment more than the decades of pollution created in the lifetime of every gasoline powered car? And what do you mean by them not being practical? From what I've heard they're very roomy on the inside since the space taken by the typical drivetrain and power plant is freed up. And who drives more than 200 miles a day? Unless you're taking road trips all the time, there shouldn't be any worry about running out of power during a typical week.
@@myetoob23 The INCREDIBLE tonnage of earth required to be mined to create just one battery is staggering. The rare earth metals needed are just not easy to get to. And how much oil/gas must be consumed to to extract them? Then, when the battery is at end of life, it must be disposed. These ARE NOT good for the environment. And the rate at which they will accumulate will only accelerate. Regarding range issues, when new, is not as much a problem. The batteries, however, lose range as they age. To make matters worse, EVs operating in cold climates become FAR less efficient, making older EVs in colder climates essentially totally impractical for many. I know because my friend in Texas bought a Model X from his friend in Wisconsin who just couldn’t use it as he needed to in the cold. Super fast? Yes. Practical for drivers in the cold? Not as much.
@@davieee1168 Elon Musk did not found Tesla Motors. The answer was lithium ion batteries that made easily portable computing devices possible. It was an inevitable development really. The AC Propulsion tzero is actually where Tesla Inc got its start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Propulsion_tzero
@@myetoob23 To the stupid politicians who coined and use the phrase God Guns and Babies. I think God Guns and Condoms would be more appropriate. WE are breeding this planet out of existence!!!! More babies more pollution BOTTOM LINE! Those same idiotic individuals don't even want BIRTH CONTROL now. Total POS
@@TugIronChief I fucking hate Tesla and their Musky Dutch Tank CEO, however no conventional vehicle was ever going to beat a Tesla. Eclectic vehicles are simply and objectively better. It's not bias, it's science.
Tesla's have no lag time when it comes to torque. They launch at 100% torque right off the line. V8s have a lag time reaching full torque. On a longer track the results would likely be different. Especially in factory configuration. Props to both cars.
@@terryhodges5850 the batteries have a 10 year warranty. I'm sure in 10 years on a gas car you spend more than 7k for the battery on a tesla. You spend more than 7k in just gas, oil changes, regular breaks, tires, batteries and other maintenance on a gas vehicle. That's not including serious issues with gas engines after 10 years.
@@terryhodges5850 - I’m not sure where you’re from but Tesla are cheaper than those high performance cars plus you and your passengers ride in comfort. I take it you don’t own a 9sec combustion engine car to understand the difference in price point.
Well, yeah, pretty much; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S#Powertrain Front and rear motor combined output up to 615 kW (825 bhp), 1,300 N⋅m (960 lb⋅ft), 3-phase AC induction motor The rear axle has a traditional open differential. Models with Dual Drive dual motors also have an open differential on the front axles. *** The front and rear axles have no mechanical linkage-with dual motors, the power distribution among them is controlled electronically *** .[citation needed] With the introduction of the tri-motor Plaid version in mid-2021, new performance levels were achieved, making the Model S Plaid the fastest accelerating production car in the world.[citation needed]
Here's the thing, This is not just any electric car that can reach these speeds and acceleration. Tesla deserves more credit than it gets. is not just because is electric, it is electric and marvelous engineering and aerodynamics.
Teslas are very nice cars but they are not worth replacing the engines that these real American Muscle cars have. Teslas maybe fast buy they will never be as good as the old school American Muscle cars
1100 hp and 3 motors with awd isn't a secret recipe to go fast. Awd is key for daily driven cars. The new M3/4 xdrive awd with a tune and exhaust dps are running low10s high 9s with ease. Some are already running mid 9s with E85.
@@kingrobinhood3230 I am not arguing with anyone. My preferences doesn't matter to anyone else but me. So I will respect everyone else's own preference. My opinion doesn't make you guys wrong. Nobody is wrong for their thoughts. So no harm no foul.
The Vette did a whole fancy burnout knowing it would not even be close. The Plaid's consistent 9.30s in a family Sedan is absurd. Imagine if it was built for low weight and aerodynamics like the Vette.
I'm a huge car guy. Obviously can't beat the sounds of a fuel supplied engine. But I think everyone needs to marvel at what a true piece of engineering tesla has created. A 100 year old man could jump in, hit the pedal and run 9s every time. When guys spend years of hard earned money to break into the 9s and rarely consistently.
The funny thing is that EVs have SUCH an incredibly efficient motor that the fact that the batteries have a FAR lower energy density than gasoline (A Tesla Model S P100D has the energy equivalent of a 4 gallon gas tank) means that there is MASSIVE room for improvement on that front. Not much improvement is needed on the motor front - they're doing just fine. But imagine what a Model S plaid would do with, say, 1000lbs less weight (assuming we can improve battery energy density sufficiently).
I agree...although we’re also bumping up against the limits of tire adhesion. Personally I don’t see any need for a car faster than my Model 3 LR let alone the Plaid. On another note, how silly does a “fast car body design” look when simple sedans are this quick!?
@@johncahill3644 exactly...wonder how much weight you can take off the plaid all else equal and not have the tires spin when mashing from a stop...already on my model 3 performance if the tires are a bit worn there is a tiny amount of wheel spin
@@rm1626 The acceleration from a dead stop is what the Tesla Roadster will resolve with the SpaceX package (10,000 psi air cylinder). Other ways to help with fast take-off from a dead stop is to implement a system like the McMurtry Spéirling car, that has 2000kg of downforce at 0mph due to fans sucking it to the ground. Cool stuff!
@not today 755hp 3560lbs rwd vs 1000hp 4828lbs awd, obviously the car with more wheels delivering power will win from a standstill while having similar power to weight ratios, we've already seen roll races where the zr1 wins due to a slightly superior power to weight ratio. The record bone stock quarter mile with stock tires on the ZR1 is a 10.2, while drag slicks and race fuel while otherwise stock is a 9.58. It can't compete with a Tesla from a dig, it's just not physically possible
Friend checked one of these out from work a few months ago, absolutely bonkers. We didn’t put it into launch mode but even just it’s “normal” acceleration was stunning. Fun ride, I still think I could do better at $140K but that’s not likely to be a dilemma anytime soon.
Yeah you could do better in 1 way or another. Like, buy a used terminator cobra and spend 100k on mods to be faster. Or buy a more luxurious ride. But you can't do both and there's nothing faster that will be remotely as reliable
Don’t forget beyond the $140k you need a charger for it and have to give thought to whether or not you are going to run out of charge everytime you drive one.
I designed the supercharger in that ZR1 an I’m also excited to see the advancement of technology of the Plaid. We truly are at a turning point in vehicle technology. Thanks for the video
Fucking awesome. I’m sure there were people fighting to keep the horse and buggy relevant when the ICE auto hit the market. The EV haters now are those people then. 🤣🤣🤣
@@craigbmm4675 lol no. Do you think super chargers just magically fill the batteries in a second? And Tesla’s are boats, can’t turn for shit. Look at Nurburgring times vs the corvette, which has less horsepower.
@@splenced7091 Can't turn for shit? Well, this is a luxury car, not a race car. Still, if you want to look at Nurburgring times for proof the Plaid handles like shit, the Plaid beat a lot of pure sports car's times including a GT-R, Many BMWs, Porsches, Bugattis, Lambos, Ferarris, ZR-1s, etc. The list is on line. The coming Roadster will be faster, and when batteries becomes smaller and lighter for the same density, things will change even more. This is the future.
He said it before.. Like about 2~3% for each launch. So plenty of launches available. Also drag times did some launches at below 10% and still was a sub 10 car
@@SniperSnake50BMG Try it in cold weather... gasoline car improves, battery car has (much) fewer runs. No big deal, unless you live in northern Minnesota.
@@easygoing2479 lol try it in any weather and the Tesla dominates, the Vette had to heat his tires for a good launch, we can play devils advocate and say lets see how the Vette launches without warming the tires for grip, in cold weather it would get worse for the Vette.
@@eclark9965 ok Time is not always the best way to judge what's good or bad just because it's faster doesn't mean it's better doing a road trip on a tesla has many benefits like having to stop and stretch and go to the bathroom or eat and I know because I have experience on road trips if your the only one in the car then I guess you have a point but if you have a family with you then you'll understand the importance of having to stop and take a break just because you get there faster doesn't mean you get to experience a nice and fun road trip with people and have a look around it's a ROAD TRIP if you want to go somewhere as a form of transportation them take a plane or a train because your eager to go somewhere faster
@@xpreflex6265 being held up for longer on a trip isn’t a benefit. You can stop and stretch to your hearts content in any car. You should have realized what you were coming up with as a rebuttal was nonsense. Oh. And our power grid can’t take summer air conditioning…but plugging in millions of cars would work out great. Sure.
@@eclark9965 yes you can stop and stretch with any car but I never said that they can't im just saying that there are benefits of having to stop and take a break while charging and that's with the battery technology we have now you haven't even considered the future improvements of EVs like charging speed the 4680 battery can charge from 9% to 80 in 29 minutes charging speed will evolve over time and you can't be held back longer of you plan your trip it's a ROAD TRIP you don't just get in the car and decide to do a "road trip" also like the battery I mentioned even power grids will change and become more efficient like Changing to nuclear power plants🤦♂️
@@xpreflex6265 you take 5 minutes to stretch. You’re at the charging station for an hour. Most of the charging stations out there are not the half our version. We can agree that you want a car that can get somewhere efficiently giving the decision to stop and smell the roses up to you rather than a forced reality.
I'd like to see a poll. How many would like to have/drive the Tesla Plaid? How many would rather have/drive the Corvette ZR1? I think that would be interesting. Results below. I also posted at bottom (I think!). Ta Ta! I wasn't planning on the poll being done here, but it sorta looks like it sorta went that way. Of course this wasn't scientific in anyway. I counted as best I could. Some responses needed interpretation ie Gas vs EV, explaining type of car they preferred, For weekend vs daily driver, not the Plaid but waiting for a roadster, coulda woulda shoulda's, I prefer shifting, but many were clear in what they wanted. ZR1 did come out with more votes. Best I could count. ZR1 - 37. Tesla - 26. The first half of votes seem really close. "Maybe" within 3-5. Then the 2nd half votes increased for ZR1. Many people has expected had different votes for one or two cars. I tried to count what their 1st choice was. Appeared to me we have some serious enthusiast here. LOL Take care everyone! Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion.
I have a Z07 and a Plaid. I prefer 80/20 of Plaid/Vette. There is so much the Plaid can do for every day driving that it makes the Vette feel archaic, but the sound and vibrations of the Vette are perfect for weekends! Have a great day guys.
Tons of people will show up! Some people are stuck in the past but a lot of people choose to use their brains and are moving forward. And when the race is over we can still hear things 😂😂😂😂
It's really about what the driver prefers at this juncture with so many options. Do you want the Vette Experience, a raw visceral ride with that beautiful V8 sound to match the torque and the ability to carve up canyons and looks sexy while you're doing it or do you want to simply go fast and not really care about looks or that Sports Car experience. I'd use the Tesla during the week to get to work and drive the Vette on the weekends.
@@craigthescott5074 As a person who is sensitive to loud sounds, I personally enjoy EVs and their quiet nature a lot. Especially when some combustion car owners think it’s a good idea to hurt the ears of innocent people by revving their engine off redline.
You talking about a 1000hp ICE car? If so it would likely get smoked too from a dig. The likelihood of that 1000hp gas car hooking up like the Tesla is slim to none.
@@TheDirtyDirtMcGirt Tell me you don't watch much drag racing without telling me you don't watch much drag racing. 1000hp gas cars run in the 8's all across this nation every week, what are you talking about? They hook up no problem. 1000hp Hondas are runnng 8's. Four door Cadillacs are running 8's in street trim. Hell I have a 32 year old Foxbody using ancient technology that runs only a second slower than that Tesla with two-thirds the hp.
@@bigshnitzeljesse i guess if thats what you need to envision these as mismatched machines. Im old enough that I won't have to ever purchase an electric car. I'll keep my dodge challenger until I cant get gas or cant afford it. By then I shouldn't be driving anymore so.... im going to be an oldtimer still riding a horse in 1920, refusing to buy a car🤣. I know it will be fine. Innovation and new things are wonderful. As a kid and growing up i saw test tube televisions. Then came the "transistor" that replaced those glowing light bulb looking things. On and on, I've seen more technological changes during my lifetime than I could have ever imagined. We as a planet need to keep moving. Im just getting too old to keep up. So when you see the dodge challenger with the grey haired biker blowing off the rear tires.... im still alive for the day🤣
@@vf12497439 I'd not put them in same category. Since car engines worked the same way for longer than you've been alive, and electric is in no way similar. They all have a "carriage", but so do ships and planes and 🛸. A gas powered TV would be something tho
I love how it's only apples to oranges, when the one you want to win gets is ass handed to it. It's vehicle to vehicle, plain and simple. Both were designed to do the exact same thing, but one simply did it better.
@@DalionHeartTTV EXACTLY. The Tesla can take the fam on vacation, fetch groceries, and then spank a vette at the drag strip. The vette does win in one category, though; that is one sexy looking automobile. I'll take one of each, lol.
Yup, my old man has that same Tesla... ruins anything, anywhere, every time...out of a corner, on ramp, dead stop dig, on a roll.. then he rolls his window down to wave and have a chat.. an 88 year old man.. in his grocery getter... it is funny.
Now you just need a bunch a huge capacitors for the jump then switch to battery when you are up to speed. Might need to be a special drive train. The forces involved might rip stuff apart.
Tried a Model S Plaid. And this thing is mindblowing. You know, i love cars. I love the sound, the noise, the smell, the vibrations, the manual gear etc. I love that pure mechanic soul, this incredible human creation. From the deep of my heart. But, obviously, electric cars are the future. Because it works, and it works too well. It breaks my heart to imagine that we're observing the end of an era. That thermic cars will soon be something old, something you watch, hear and use by nostalgia. But i have to admit, this is it. This is where we are now... And trying to fight it would be unnatural. It would be like refusing what we love in the incredible cars like the ZR1 today because of what they were in the past. It hurst but this is the way... I'm sure we and our children will find how crazy the cars from tomorrow can be and how we can love them. And, in 10, 20 or 30 years, regarding where we will be, we'll watch today's cars and thinking with a little smile on our faces and a bit of nostalgic love in our mind, that finally, and for good old engineering reasons, it couldn't have been different.
I work for ****A and i still get excited when a model S/X base or plaid comes in. Hell even the 3 and Y are fun. The newer plaids are a different beast though. Theyre also a PITA to work on
I do.,..LOL ...I have a 1/10th Slash Taxxas 2WD with 2 cells so its 7.4Volts.Been doing this for 10 years....more power? Add another 3.7 volts to make it 3 cells and put that in the Slash and it goes much faster...Even take a look at a 6 cells and that 4 wheel drive losing it tires.
Yep big change from when i was a kid trying to get my brushed mechanical speed controller rc up to 35mph lol. Now my brushless rc's do 50+ easy..and last 2x longer. Crazy fun i must say.
I only have a 2020 Model 3 LR and not a Plaid but I can dust off most cars at the light which I don’t often do since it’s not for racing. The ZR1 driver did really good and gave an impressive outing.
Did you know that a camshaft and valve springs are no longer needed to open and close valves in a recent ICE? Each valve has its own tiny electric motor that opens and closes the valve where lift and duration are controlled electronically.
There are very few experimental engines with what you are describing. Koenigsegg's FreeValve being the most well known. There are a few cool DIY setups out there as well. I don't know of any production vehicle that has electrically operated valves without camshafts.
@@zoidsfan77 I don't know of any production vehicles with this set up either so that makes at least 2 of us that agree on something whether we like it or not, don't it?
Best part of this is knowing if something goes wrong with the ZR1 you can actually fix it not having to deal with that non-existent Tesla customer service or non existent parts!
I remember late 90s at local drag strip we all hated on the WRXs cos they would never do a burnout, made bugger all sound, yet wiped the floor with the big block V8s. Now electric doing the same thing.
It's a dumb fast family car. It has air ride, soft suspension, it's for families. Top-end? Add in gears. At GoodWood there was this McMurtry EV. Sounds like a jet fighter, but is a pure EV. Trashes literally everything available currently. Go check it out.
The Tesla Plaid will keep pulling away, fact. The Plaid is capable of at least 216MPH(More to give), Vette can't come near that. No contest at any speed, vette would only do better on a track.
9:30’s?? WTF, those battery cars are fast! Wonder how many passes you can make before you gotta plug it in? Incidentally, that vette was pretty quick too
I have driven many sports cars, I own myself a Nissan 300ZX modified to over 400 HP. My daily drive is now a Tesla Model 3 Performance. While ICE vehicles are fun, and the sound of engines with turbos are even more fun, I have to admit, EVs are the future... as someone from Tesla told me when I got the car “welcome to the future”. I can say that I am never ever going back to ICE. It actually took me just one day of driving the Model 3 to know that I am never going back. Cheers
Honestly, the plaid has like 300 hp on him and instant torque. He was still hanging with him, and unlike the Tesla that's a track monster Porsche 911 GT2s and Lamborghini Aventadors check under their beds for. I'll take the C7 ZR1 anyday
Tesla doesn't tell the truth. The car's making 1100hp to the wheels bone stock. The vette makes 660-670whp, maybe 680whp on a really good day, so I'd say it's more like 430hp (max output vs max output) on the ZR1. Don't forget the Tesla makes almost 100% of the power the whole way, while the ZR1 has to rev out to hit the 670, so average useful hp throughout the race is about 620whp-640whp. Also, the Tesla doesn't have to shift. with all those odds stacked against the vette (including the huge wing, splitters and other aero), the vette still put up a good enough fight. Chevy really put together a fine ass car there! Not to mention (as you pointed out), it's not even a straight line car!
The automotive industry has finally shaken up by a technological factor. That factor is the Electric Vehicle such as Tesla. I recently test drove an early model of the tesla Model S owned by my sister in law. That thing defies latency that set the boundaries of ICE cars. It was like launching an RC car on a massive scale. You feel the torque go through your stomach as soon as you give the accelerator a gentle touch. But that was a good race to watch. I love the vettes and will always love them, but I also admire what tesla has done. It's a game changer in the industry. With the price of fossil fuel sky rocketing, eventually the demand for EV's will be greater than ICE powered vehicles. Thanks for posting the video.
I used to be into R/C Cars big time when I was younger. I first started off with gas R/C cars as electric R/C cars that batteries didn't last that long. However, I took a 10-15 year hiatus from them and went with electric R/C cars as they improved the batteries. I could tell right off the bat that Electric R/C cars were quick and quicker off the line. Once Car companies solve the range problem and the prices come down on Electric Cars I don't think it will take too much convincing the American Public to switch over once they find on fun these cars are to drive.
Funny, you're right. When I was racing RC cars in the 90's, ALL you wanted was "4 minutes plus one lap" battery life. Now it's like "hold my controller, I'm going for lunch".
The infrastructure needs to improve too, like where to recharge and how long it takes. Apartments, for example, need to have the ability to recharge EVs.
It's not only the transition from nickel metal h to lithium Palmer batteries that changed the rc game. The huge jump was in the new brushless motors from brushed. Huge huge improvement there. Back then we had to work at getting our rc's up to 30mph. Now ready to run rc's out of the box do 50 to 60. Nuts.
I’d like to buy one. I was in one the a few weeks ago and it’s stupid fast and I was a passenger. After my Model Y and Cybertruck that will be my next Tesla.
Hearing petrolpurists talk about 'soulless' EVs feels for me like a repeat of history. When cars were invented horseriders had the exact same argument about a horse vs a lifeless machine. You can only chuckle reading back on their arguments back then. What the naysayers don't realize is that the petrolcars are at the end of their era, having evolved into the most awesome they can be, and the EV's are just at the start of theirs. I have no doubt that in time EVs will deliver on all fronts and then a whole lot more we can't even imagine right now. Embrace change people, life is more fun that way and you can appreciate a true genesis when you see one.
Girls crowd around my little vw dune buggy and 58 Chrysler, every single gas station, stop light, etc. Ive met near half the town already just because they want to check out my car. Never saw that happen to a Tesla.
You absolutely cannot compare an electric car to a gasoline powered one. Completely different. Put that ugly thing on a road course and see what happens.
@@johndexter4971 they did, at Nürburgring the fastest lap time is a Porsche hybrid half gas half electric, and second place is a Volkswagen all-electric ID-R lmao.
@@TheBalrey Tesla build mostly cushy cars, without much regard for handling nor ability to have good endurance in the tracks. ID-R is built by VW racing engineers, who had enough knowledge from races like Le Mans to come up with an adequate EV racing car with good amount of downforce to maintain traction. EV or not, Teslas are not serious cars for people who enjoy driving winding roads.
@@jasonvanesch3093 Let's see, the Vette was doing 131 and the Plaid was doing 151 and still accelerating if he keeps his foot in it. Sure the Vette was "catching up". 🤣🤣 The Plaids top speed with street tires is a limited 175 (if not limited there is a video of it doing 216 which took about 27 seconds). They claim a C7 ZR1 can hit 212 (also with proper tires I imagine) BUT what does it's torque curve look like? The Plaids is virtually flat all the way.
This technology physically impossible to beat on acceleration. It’s just simple science. And I know that combustion engines are all soon to become collectors items. But I still love them, because I grew up with them, and they’ll always have a place in my heart. It’s cool to be alive during this time. Cheers.
It's funny that we've reached the point where we're saying, "Hey look! That gas burner actually put up a fight!" LOL
Lmao only way to keep the hobby and money spent justified
And then you want to drive more than 500 miles.......
@@ChrisDied isn’t the range of the tesla roadster like 600 miles
@@ChrisDied since we reached this milestone (spoken of by OP) give it some time let ev charging stations increase in numbers, even more than 5000 miles won't be an issue... Its not a matter of if, its just a question of when..
@@meramail it still takes a few hours to charge.... even if there was charging stations on every corner....
That ZR1 driver knows how to launch. That was impressive
I know he must’ve like …stepped on the gas and all that
The car comes equipped with launch control.
@@cry_now_laugh_laterit’s funny how you think it’s that simple 😂
didnt even burn out, he just took off, did very well against the all mighty all wheel drive Tesla Plaid
LOL POOR MUSTANG DIDN'T WANT TOO GET EMBARRASSED
ZR1 driver was spot on and had a great race!
Spot on pedal stomp...
It has launch control. A child could do it.
@@joevarga5982 same can be said for the Tesla or any modern car without a manual shift. Can you shift a manual? I mean where you going with this?
@@tonybtrucks3029 ALL I drive is manual. What do you mean by "where you going with this"? I already made my point. Did it sail right over your head?
The point is that it requires NO SKILL to push a pedal to the floor and hold a steering wheel straight. Here you are congratulating a driver for his great performance when IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY SKILL with an automatic and launch control. A child could do it. What part of this are you not comprehending?
@@Unit_104really? I’m giving the driver of the ZR1 a compliment for a good launch and probably one of the better times he’s run only to have your insecure ass criticizing the compliment. That’s about as pathetic as it gets.
Recently took a ride in a Plaid. The torque is mind blowing. Your eyes go to the back of your head, your stomach feels like you road a ride on the fair midway. The car is scary fast.
so what
@@doomslayerforever2858 hrr drr electric car bad ooga booga
@@13Percent52PercentYikes sorry i dont speak zoomer
@@doomslayerforever2858 So what?
“Let’s Dance”!!!!!!!
@@doomslayerforever2858 “so what?”
because: FAST CARS… DUH
Damn the ZR1 driver got a wayyy better start than what I was expecting
I was just thinking the same thing. Great off line but the transmission is the killer. Having to convert power of the motor, losing power in that conversion, and then having to fight with a direct driven electric motor throwing all of its torque and power to the wheels, it's a wrap
He drove it as fast as it would go
Yeah that surprised me too didn't expect it to do that good
Yeah, it was a good launch, i was surprised to see a 20 mph difference in trap speed
@@lacydo / yup... 10.55 is the best possible speed for the ZR1 and he yanked a 10.6
1.3 second win by the plaid is actually a huge margin.
Richtig, wobei man sagen muss, in 9 von 10 Starts wird der Vorsprung des Tesla Model S mit Plaid Antrieb 2,5 bis 5 Sekunden sein.
It only looks impressive when you see them side by side, with the Tesla winning by more than a car length. They're BOTH ridiculously fast.
more like 15 car lengths
You’re right… zoom lens also compresses footage so the cars appear closer than they really are if it were a normal lens.
And weighs about 2,000 pounds heavier! but in an autocross race the vette would smoke the tesla.
Wow that was a crazy clean run in that vette. Nice job!
Ok you like participation trophies 😂
That's about as fast a pass as the ZR1 can make.
The launch was perfect!
I am actually impressed that the ZR1 launched anywhere near the speed of the plaid. that hook up lol.
Track surface in 100 degree heat is like molasses. Street launch would be much different obviously 😆
Might be the fact that the 'Vette is literally a thousand pounds lighter (3618 vs 4766). Even Teslas have a limit to their zero rpm torque output.
Considering the Plaid is four wheel drive and the Corvette isn't it is quite a launch for sure. I was also impressed.
@@jfan4reva How about you factor in the drivetrains, RWD vs 4WD
Boring, quiet, electric. Thats why the Tesa Racing Channel doesnt run a Tesla anymore.
For some reason some people feel like Teslas are an encroachment on American muscle, but they fail to realize Tesla is the most American made American Vehicle in the USA. It is American to the bone, and is the modern day muscle car.
Except for the Chinese models but yes. I somewhat convinced someone about Teslas, and they finally did when they drove one.
Model S is near 100% American. Very little of it is made outside USA.
3 and Y are consumer products, made where the buyers are. Texas and Berlin have hardly got started.
@@denisbellars9260 no, he is losing his oil change business:):)
Teslas battery cells are produced by Panasonic, a Japanese company in Japan. Tesla gets its lithium from China.
@@davidelliott5843 No. Wrong. 3 and Y and arguably more american than S and X. 3 and Y get their battery cells from Nevada whilst S and X get theirs from Japan.
I'm not surprised by the ZR1. Got a chance to try one out a few weeks ago, from the line, and man that thing is fast.
MAJOR props to the Vette driver! That definitely took some skill to get that time
was he on drag radials or was that normal performance street tires? that hook was soo impressive.
Or just pressing the button marked "Launch Control".
it IS a ZR1, you know..
MAJOR props for losing? OK.
yeahhh definitely!!!
To everyone pointing out that the plaid is fast, *yes, we know*. I think we are all just impressed that someone managed to race against a plaid and *not* look like their car was standing still. In fact, after just running a 9, I will bet that Tesla driver was at least a little surprised to look out his peripheral vision a second into the race and actually see his opponent THERE, and not entirely in his rearview mirror. Give that Vette and it’s driver some credit.
Participation trophy 🏆
Ain’t no 2nd prize.
If you are not first you are last. It's all about electric cars and motorcycles. Muscle cars are for losers
I give it credit there, but it's still the loser.
Why would anyone give a Corvette credit? All that Motor and no technology. My M8 is like my copilot. I talk to it to change music switch driving modes and book and cancel appointments while it navigates me, gives me a massage, and gets me to your moms house in record time
I love this weird transition period from gas to electric we’re in, this comment section pretty much all agrees that the Plaid is basically gonna win against most gas cars in drag races but that doesn’t take away from us noticing the guy who lost really did a great job.
His launch was perfect
Most? All. Even a Bugatti Chiron
I'm not convinced that electric cars are the future. You can take the Vett on a road trip but you can only take your Tesla to the damn grocery store, then it's back to your home charger. So, you're paying lot's more for a car with limited range that actually presents more of a deleterious impact on the environment than it's fossil fuel counterparts. Additionally, all of this comes at the expense of the American taxpayer who's on the hook to provide subsidies for people who purchase of these stupid golf carts! I really hope the extra acceleration is worth it to you...
@@pinkydavis6113 Funnily enough, the Tesla has more range than the Corvette.
And EVs have a smaller impact on the environment than equivalent ICE cars. Read any total environmental impact report.
@@logitech4873 The average range of gas fueled vehicles is 412 miles while the average Tesla Golf Cart is under 350 miles. When you consider the limited number of charging stations there's no comparison regarding convenience. I don't know what environmental impact reports you're reading but it sounds like Democrat propaganda. Mining enough REE's to bring enough batteries to market will completely destroy entire echo systems, the disposal of these short lived batteries is also a huge environmental problem, and the electricity needed to accommodate the increased demand comes largely from coal. Additionally, the cost of converting our infrastructure will be billed to the American taxpayer. So I hope all of you Tesla driving virtue signalers feel real superior tooling around town...
When I worked for a Lexus dealer back in 2007-8 they made a variant of the Gs series cars that was a hybrid gas/electric called the gs450h. When I got to inspect/pdi my first one off the truck and I did the 10 mile test drive I was blown away by the torque that car produced. I remember thinking then that electric cars are gonna be some of the fastest cars on the market and on top of that without adding anything to them. They are like that straight out the box, that car could run in the 9s all day with a trunk full of groceries, 4 people and a baby seat in the back.
Big up to the vette driver for that awesome launch.
I totally agree, that was an epic launch.
Master at work
It's called Launch Control. All the driver has to do is steer. Perfect launches everytime.
Guys check this out -czcams.com/video/_xiGIZFkdD0/video.html
@@Mark-ld5um That is a lot easier said than done in a 755hp RWD car.
The speed of an EV is one thing, but a lot of people underestimate the advantage they have when they don't have to shift gears. The Tesla just pulls all the way and the other cars fall back a bit every time they shift gears.
And no powerband to worry about. Full power/torque instantly.
Until u need the top speed
True and the torque curve for the Plaid never drops off. It stays flat all the way to the motor's 22,000 rpm limit. No tranny needed.
@@HoldFastFilms lol which is what a massive lithium battery can't handle overtime. You do realize these things blow up more than the media reports? This is like the scam video with the truck pulling a 4×2 ford with no load in the back. Next time they used a f250 with a light load and it toyed with the tesla. Not many people comprehend torque and mechanics which is why that video was misleading.
There is no need for transmissions in the 21st Century ⚡
great races! Props to the Vette for that launch with 2 thin walls to the floor
I have to admit, Impressive.........How about a race across the country. CANNONBALL!
It wouldn't be fair because every 150-200 miles the tesla will have to charge for 4-6 hours
@@SaltyCracker402 I know, that's why I suggested it! Lol
Or couple of hours on road course….
Every 359 miles for 40 minutes but still a disadvantage@@SaltyCracker402
It used to be all about torque and times in the 60 and quarter. When EVs started winning, suddenly it became all about "soul".
so true
not just that, they started talking about sound, the fit and finish, paint, not for track, curve road....
That’s so right, before Tesla they talked shit about horse powers, zero to sixty etc. Now, they said “oh well corvette got a better sound, Ferrari is better looking, Lamborghini is cool “😂😂😂😂
@@skyhigh418 who's they?
A car where your grandmother can push a button and do a 10 second quarter mile does not impress me as much as a stick shift car with no traction control and loses by a few car lengths.
If you imagine how long is has taken the EV world to take a 4 door family car to consistent 9.3s, the potential is scary.
Aint it crazy back in 60s /70s made some beautiful Air Power for the USA but we were building SQUARE CARS....... you can see we were way behind the times...
The very first cars were electric. It has taken a damn long time.
@@mikeyfourbarrel8473 First cars were steam then came electric and gas. In the late 1800's (1896 I think) there were more electric cars than gas, sometimes society makes the wrong turn.
"Electric vehicles actually have their origin in the 1800s. The first American electric car was developed by William Morrison in 1891. His six-passenger wagon reached a top speed of 14 mph (though it is worth noting that in 1899 the land speed record was set by an electric vehicle at 66 mph)."
Where would battery tech be if we didn't make that mistake?
For reference the laferrari does 9.8s
The Tesla weights 2000 lbs more on top of that. Imagine with a battery half the weight.
Anyone who hasn’t experienced a Tesla S is missing out. It’s just mind blowing. I have had sone fast cars and motorcycles (turbo/n2o drag cars, Hayabusa etc.. 8 sec quarters. 227 mph top end. But I drive just a regular dual motor S (not even a plain) and it made me seriously giggle. I immediately called my car buddies and told them what they are missing out. Unless you have driven or ridden in one, you just can’t explain the substantial acceleration. Absolutely amazing.
🤣
I didn't feel S plaid exciting at all. Compared to (even slower, like sub 10s) motorbikes.
totally agree
5-seater family sedan with two large trunks vs 2 person sports car with barely a small trunk..
Props to the vette for knowing how to launch but it’s mind blowing how fast the Tesla is. Imagine if Tesla had a car similar to the Corvette..
makes me realize that it's actually the racing fuel fumes and loping cam sounds that make going to the races worth the drive.
"I love watching cars race to be the fastest"
Electric car wins*
"AcTuaLLy I dOnT cArE abOuT spEEd, I jUsT waNt To sMeLL tHe FumES"
@@karls8586 Odd how its all about the race until a game changer arrives. Bloody hypocrites.
I realized it’s the cancer causing fumes and exhaust that keeps me coming back.
@@karls8586 😂😂😂
@@robertmandl9326 the game changer was the Declaration of Independence.
When I was a teenager working in a huge warehouse, riding across the warehouse in an electric cart, I always wondered what if they could just put in a giant battery and big electric motor in one of those. Wouldn’t it just practically fly off the ground? Well, here we are it seems.
@@davieee1168 serious questions:
Is building a Tesla and its batteries that much worse on the environment than building any other car?
Does the 1 time impact of mining whatever is needed for the batteries affect the environment more than the decades of pollution created in the lifetime of every gasoline powered car?
And what do you mean by them not being practical? From what I've heard they're very roomy on the inside since the space taken by the typical drivetrain and power plant is freed up. And who drives more than 200 miles a day? Unless you're taking road trips all the time, there shouldn't be any worry about running out of power during a typical week.
@@myetoob23 The INCREDIBLE tonnage of earth required to be mined to create just one battery is staggering. The rare earth metals needed are just not easy to get to. And how much oil/gas must be consumed to to extract them? Then, when the battery is at end of life, it must be disposed. These ARE NOT good for the environment. And the rate at which they will accumulate will only accelerate.
Regarding range issues, when new, is not as much a problem. The batteries, however, lose range as they age. To make matters worse, EVs operating in cold climates become FAR less efficient, making older EVs in colder climates essentially totally impractical for many. I know because my friend in Texas bought a Model X from his friend in Wisconsin who just couldn’t use it as he needed to in the cold. Super fast? Yes. Practical for drivers in the cold? Not as much.
@@davieee1168 Elon Musk did not found Tesla Motors. The answer was lithium ion batteries that made easily portable computing devices possible. It was an inevitable development really. The AC Propulsion tzero is actually where Tesla Inc got its start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Propulsion_tzero
@@myetoob23 To the stupid politicians who coined and use the phrase God Guns and Babies. I think God Guns and Condoms would be more appropriate. WE are breeding this planet out of existence!!!! More babies more pollution BOTTOM LINE! Those same idiotic individuals don't even want BIRTH CONTROL now. Total POS
@@myetoob23 Sounds like you’re looking to buy a Tesla 🤣
Finally a great start by a fast car . The Vettes hook up was amazinggggg
Not difficult when vehicle has electronic launch control.
How did he do?the Tesla hole shot won the race
@@polarlab113 Nah. Plaid was gonna win that one - hole-shot or no.
@@TugIronChief I fucking hate Tesla and their Musky Dutch Tank CEO, however no conventional vehicle was ever going to beat a Tesla. Eclectic vehicles are simply and objectively better. It's not bias, it's science.
@@TugIronChief Except I have looked, and electric cars outperform piston driven cars 10 times out of 10. Lol
Yo no lie that second race was entertaining AF!
Tesla's have no lag time when it comes to torque. They launch at 100% torque right off the line. V8s have a lag time reaching full torque. On a longer track the results would likely be different. Especially in factory configuration. Props to both cars.
Imagine having a 9 sec car that’s a daily driver and never having to worry about turbo issues/ oil temp/ boost control/ pistons blowing etc etc…..
Exactly why electric is better. Only real problem is battery but he'll that's a problem on a gas engine also
Yeah it would be fun to have one but they're expensive and cost a fortune when they batteries go bad so
@@terryhodges5850 the batteries have a 10 year warranty. I'm sure in 10 years on a gas car you spend more than 7k for the battery on a tesla. You spend more than 7k in just gas, oil changes, regular breaks, tires, batteries and other maintenance on a gas vehicle. That's not including serious issues with gas engines after 10 years.
@@terryhodges5850 - I’m not sure where you’re from but Tesla are cheaper than those high performance cars plus you and your passengers ride in comfort.
I take it you don’t own a 9sec combustion engine car to understand the difference in price point.
@@fordflexking2014 Teslas don't need brakes, tires, and charges are free??? Serious issues in ICE engines after ten yrs are not typical.
Wonder if anyone says after: “I just got beat by a giant battery”
THE GUY WITH THE GIANT MOTOR GOT BEAT !!
Well, yeah, pretty much; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S#Powertrain
Front and rear motor combined output up to 615 kW (825 bhp), 1,300 N⋅m (960 lb⋅ft), 3-phase AC induction motor
The rear axle has a traditional open differential. Models with Dual Drive dual motors also have an open differential on the front axles. *** The front and rear axles have no mechanical linkage-with dual motors, the power distribution among them is controlled electronically *** .[citation needed] With the introduction of the tri-motor Plaid version in mid-2021, new performance levels were achieved, making the Model S Plaid the fastest accelerating production car in the world.[citation needed]
since no horse rider ever said "I just got beaten by a sloshy tank of smelly tar", no!
@@Bimboms Haha. Yeah, lets do a 500 mile race
@@3mtech haha yeah. lets do a race to see who goes 250 miles for cheaper.
Here's the thing, This is not just any electric car that can reach these speeds and acceleration. Tesla deserves more credit than it gets. is not just because is electric, it is electric and marvelous engineering and aerodynamics.
Teslas are very nice cars but they are not worth replacing the engines that these real American Muscle cars have. Teslas maybe fast buy they will never be as good as the old school American Muscle cars
@@ChrisSaf-T-LinerC21719 That's right. They'll be much better
1100 hp and 3 motors with awd isn't a secret recipe to go fast. Awd is key for daily driven cars. The new M3/4 xdrive awd with a tune and exhaust dps are running low10s high 9s with ease. Some are already running mid 9s with E85.
BMW is working on a awd electric M4 that will be 1200hp. It is going to be ridiculous.
@@kingrobinhood3230 I am not arguing with anyone. My preferences doesn't matter to anyone else but me. So I will respect everyone else's own preference. My opinion doesn't make you guys wrong. Nobody is wrong for their thoughts. So no harm no foul.
The Vette did a whole fancy burnout knowing it would not even be close. The Plaid's consistent 9.30s in a family Sedan is absurd. Imagine if it was built for low weight and aerodynamics like the Vette.
The Tesla would get absolutely destroyed on a track course due to being extremely heavy.
I'm a huge car guy. Obviously can't beat the sounds of a fuel supplied engine. But I think everyone needs to marvel at what a true piece of engineering tesla has created. A 100 year old man could jump in, hit the pedal and run 9s every time. When guys spend years of hard earned money to break into the 9s and rarely consistently.
You don’t sound like a car guy by saying “fuel supplied engine”.
The funny thing is that EVs have SUCH an incredibly efficient motor that the fact that the batteries have a FAR lower energy density than gasoline (A Tesla Model S P100D has the energy equivalent of a 4 gallon gas tank) means that there is MASSIVE room for improvement on that front. Not much improvement is needed on the motor front - they're doing just fine. But imagine what a Model S plaid would do with, say, 1000lbs less weight (assuming we can improve battery energy density sufficiently).
I agree...although we’re also bumping up against the limits of tire adhesion. Personally I don’t see any need for a car faster than my Model 3 LR let alone the Plaid. On another note, how silly does a “fast car body design” look when simple sedans are this quick!?
@@johncahill3644 exactly...wonder how much weight you can take off the plaid all else equal and not have the tires spin when mashing from a stop...already on my model 3 performance if the tires are a bit worn there is a tiny amount of wheel spin
@@rm1626 The acceleration from a dead stop is what the Tesla Roadster will resolve with the SpaceX package (10,000 psi air cylinder). Other ways to help with fast take-off from a dead stop is to implement a system like the McMurtry Spéirling car, that has 2000kg of downforce at 0mph due to fans sucking it to the ground. Cool stuff!
4680/3800lbs Roadster ⚡🇺🇲🚀
That's why I have all money in dilthium crystals. Warp speed never looked so good.
That was a surprise. Expected the launch to be the big advantage for the Tesla, with AWD and electric torque.
I wanna see a tesla vs ZR1 on a road course.
Tesla too heavy for that.
@@edo153 you'd be surprised. look up the tesla s plaid on the nurburing video.
wait for the roadster to come out.
10 second 1/4 is nothing to sneeze at! I wish my vett did tens! 👍
@not today yeah it was like 8.7
@not today 755hp 3560lbs rwd vs 1000hp 4828lbs awd, obviously the car with more wheels delivering power will win from a standstill while having similar power to weight ratios, we've already seen roll races where the zr1 wins due to a slightly superior power to weight ratio. The record bone stock quarter mile with stock tires on the ZR1 is a 10.2, while drag slicks and race fuel while otherwise stock is a 9.58. It can't compete with a Tesla from a dig, it's just not physically possible
Lots of 10 second cars.....and also a few fast cars at the drag strip tonight.
10 sec Vette on street tires very impressive. 👍
Correct but slightly modified !
Brilliant drive by both, particularly the vette guy. Awesome performance by the Plaid, as usual.
Brilliant drive? The vette had to drive, that Tesla just had to mash the pedal....... had that been a mile race the vette would have wone
"I love mustangs but your about to get wore out brother" im dead HAHAHAH
Mustang ? pony car 😂
Friend checked one of these out from work a few months ago, absolutely bonkers. We didn’t put it into launch mode but even just it’s “normal” acceleration was stunning. Fun ride, I still think I could do better at $140K but that’s not likely to be a dilemma anytime soon.
Four a four door five seat luxury sedan?
Yeah you could do better in 1 way or another. Like, buy a used terminator cobra and spend 100k on mods to be faster. Or buy a more luxurious ride. But you can't do both and there's nothing faster that will be remotely as reliable
Don’t forget beyond the $140k you need a charger for it and have to give thought to whether or not you are going to run out of charge everytime you drive one.
@msk3905
Not really…..that’s why there’s a power gauge. You know. Like a gas gauge.
Edit: Jeezus…It’s not rocket science!
Or you could have a awd civic with half the hp 🤗
I designed the supercharger in that ZR1 an I’m also excited to see the advancement of technology of the Plaid. We truly are at a turning point in vehicle technology. Thanks for the video
Sure you did
And I'm John Cena...
It makes ya hate this world
ICE cars are going the way of steam locomotives. Electric is just plain better- and I'm a muscle car guy too!
How much air is that supercharger getting?
more air = more hp
Fucking awesome. I’m sure there were people fighting to keep the horse and buggy relevant when the ICE auto hit the market. The EV haters now are those people then. 🤣🤣🤣
At the end of the day I'm taking the keys to the Vette cause I know I'll get where I need to go fast as hell no headache
I did not expect the two to have such good starts
Vette: Agree Tesla: Literally all you do is put your foot down... Zero skill involved...
@@mcbrite The ZR1 has launch control iirc so same skill there too.
@@mcbrite SAME WITH THE AUTOMATIC VETTE !!
@@glenncater1 Drag racing is boring AF either way... Hate it...
@@mcbrite WHY DO YOU HATE ALL MASCULINE SPORTS?
Now take them both to the 24 hours at LeMans and see how it works out…
Yeah! see who runs out of fuel first.
hahaha .. ya if they had a super charging station .. they still might win
@@33818ual see who can refuel in 5 seconds, yes.
@@craigbmm4675 lol no. Do you think super chargers just magically fill the batteries in a second? And Tesla’s are boats, can’t turn for shit. Look at Nurburgring times vs the corvette, which has less horsepower.
@@splenced7091 Can't turn for shit? Well, this is a luxury car, not a race car. Still, if you want to look at Nurburgring times for proof the Plaid handles like shit, the Plaid beat a lot of pure sports car's times including a GT-R, Many BMWs, Porsches, Bugattis, Lambos, Ferarris, ZR-1s, etc. The list is on line. The coming Roadster will be faster, and when batteries becomes smaller and lighter for the same density, things will change even more. This is the future.
Vette driver did a great job, response time and hook up were damn near perfect.
Do they plug in the Tesla between runs? I am always curious to see how much the performance drops after a few passes. Still REALLY FAST.
He said it before..
Like about 2~3% for each launch.
So plenty of launches available. Also drag times did some launches at below 10% and still was a sub 10 car
@@SniperSnake50BMG Try it in cold weather... gasoline car improves, battery car has (much) fewer runs. No big deal, unless you live in northern Minnesota.
@@easygoing2479 no the Teslas batteries are liquid cooled / heated... temperature is kinda irrelevant.
@@easygoing2479 lol try it in any weather and the Tesla dominates, the Vette had to heat his tires for a good launch, we can play devils advocate and say lets see how the Vette launches without warming the tires for grip, in cold weather it would get worse for the Vette.
That ZR1 kept up pretty well
Not good enough
2 to 3 semi lengths not so much
@@kidamere2408 the vette put down a 10.61 at 131mph.
No it didn’t.
@@kidamere2408 I expected 4 semi lengths.
I love that LX…great looking car…its my favorite.
Wonder how the new C8 ZR1 coming out will do?
Love how that Tesla beat the ZR1 when the ZR1 out the box is spanking every production car made 😂
Imagine dad, wife and kids in Tesla came back from holiday and just dropped by. 😂😂😂
Imagine how much longer a road trip would take in an ev.
@@eclark9965 ok
Time is not always the best way to judge what's good or bad just because it's faster doesn't mean it's better doing a road trip on a tesla has many benefits like having to stop and stretch and go to the bathroom or eat and I know because I have experience on road trips if your the only one in the car then I guess you have a point but if you have a family with you then you'll understand the importance of having to stop and take a break just because you get there faster doesn't mean you get to experience a nice and fun road trip with people and have a look around it's a ROAD TRIP if you want to go somewhere as a form of transportation them take a plane or a train because your eager to go somewhere faster
@@xpreflex6265 being held up for longer on a trip isn’t a benefit. You can stop and stretch to your hearts content in any car.
You should have realized what you were coming up with as a rebuttal was nonsense.
Oh. And our power grid can’t take summer air conditioning…but plugging in millions of cars would work out great. Sure.
@@eclark9965 yes you can stop and stretch with any car but I never said that they can't im just saying that there are benefits of having to stop and take a break while charging and that's with the battery technology we have now you haven't even considered the future improvements of EVs like charging speed the 4680 battery can charge from 9% to 80 in 29 minutes charging speed will evolve over time and you can't be held back longer of you plan your trip it's a ROAD TRIP you don't just get in the car and decide to do a "road trip" also like the battery I mentioned even power grids will change and become more efficient like Changing to nuclear power plants🤦♂️
@@xpreflex6265 you take 5 minutes to stretch. You’re at the charging station for an hour. Most of the charging stations out there are not the half our version.
We can agree that you want a car that can get somewhere efficiently giving the decision to stop and smell the roses up to you rather than a forced reality.
I'd like to see a poll. How many would like to have/drive the Tesla Plaid? How many would rather have/drive the Corvette ZR1? I think that would be interesting.
Results below. I also posted at bottom (I think!). Ta Ta!
I wasn't planning on the poll being done here, but it sorta looks like it sorta went that way. Of course this wasn't scientific in anyway. I counted as best I could. Some responses needed interpretation ie Gas vs EV, explaining type of car they preferred, For weekend vs daily driver, not the Plaid but waiting for a roadster, coulda woulda shoulda's, I prefer shifting, but many were clear in what they wanted. ZR1 did come out with more votes. Best I could count. ZR1 - 37. Tesla - 26.
The first half of votes seem really close. "Maybe" within 3-5.
Then the 2nd half votes increased for ZR1. Many people has expected had different votes for one or two cars. I tried to count what their 1st choice was. Appeared to me we have some serious enthusiast here. LOL Take care everyone! Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion.
ZR1.
ZR1
I have a Z07 and a Plaid. I prefer 80/20 of Plaid/Vette. There is so much the Plaid can do for every day driving that it makes the Vette feel archaic, but the sound and vibrations of the Vette are perfect for weekends! Have a great day guys.
I’d take a base Corvette over a Tesla. They are the definition of boring, everybody has a Tesla.
I wouldn't like to own 2 cars because I have no need for 2, and the plaid is a better car for daily use so I take the plaid
Go to an all-electric drag race. Watch how many people show up
Tons of people will show up! Some people are stuck in the past but a lot of people choose to use their brains and are moving forward. And when the race is over we can still hear things 😂😂😂😂
@@boblatkey7160someone should take your man card for typing that
@@MrFeeny911 and obviously somebody already took your brain card away! 😂
Keep crying 😂
@@santoshrathod123 -Prius owner
It's really about what the driver prefers at this juncture with so many options. Do you want the Vette Experience, a raw visceral ride with that beautiful V8 sound to match the torque and the ability to carve up canyons and looks sexy while you're doing it or do you want to simply go fast and not really care about looks or that Sports Car experience. I'd use the Tesla during the week to get to work and drive the Vette on the weekends.
Engine and exhaust sounds are beginning to seem like sitcom laugh tracks.
Agreed. Countries are already banning new combustion car sales by 2025. Everyone knows electric is the future. Will they succeed? Who knows.
Actually it’s the other way around electric cars are ridiculously quiet. It’s so boring.
@@craigthescott5074 As a person who is sensitive to loud sounds, I personally enjoy EVs and their quiet nature a lot. Especially when some combustion car owners think it’s a good idea to hurt the ears of innocent people by revving their engine off redline.
To the kids now, gas cars will be like old, loud, stinky machines.
@@craigthescott5074 Maybe they'll start installing "applause-o-meters" at racetracks.
I'd still buy the corvette
Right the looks you get will be way different than driving a Tesla
Same here. I already own a 2019 C7 convertible and I enjoy driving it more than I do any electric car
@@shaybapple I have a 2008 C6 base in Orange my dream car is a 2019 Z06 In Atomic Orange
E-Ray or Zora? ⚡🇺🇲
@@larryc1616 I’d get the Zora if I can afford it. I bought a lottery ticket tonight just in case. I’d get you the E-Ray if I hit lol!
It will need a charge to get back to the paddock...but it did get to the charger really fast!
Serious question, are they as dull to drive as I expect, no noise, or gear changes?
Just once id like to see the Tesla in a fair race, get another 1000hp AWD car and lets see if the race is so dramatic.
You talking about a 1000hp ICE car? If so it would likely get smoked too from a dig. The likelihood of that 1000hp gas car hooking up like the Tesla is slim to none.
The Tesla is also a four door family car.
And why does it having 4 doors matter? They are made of light aluminium. It's not like they are dragging it down.
@@TheDirtyDirtMcGirt Tell me you don't watch much drag racing without telling me you don't watch much drag racing.
1000hp gas cars run in the 8's all across this nation every week, what are you talking about? They hook up no problem.
1000hp Hondas are runnng 8's.
Four door Cadillacs are running 8's in street trim.
Hell I have a 32 year old Foxbody using ancient technology that runs only a second slower than that Tesla with two-thirds the hp.
@@iknklst sure on slicks in a prep race. I’m talking street car against street car. Thanks for playing.
Actually impressed with the vette there. It ran pretty close with the tesla for a couple hundred feet. Apples to oranges but that was impressive.
Apples to Androids?
@@bigshnitzeljesse i guess if thats what you need to envision these as mismatched machines. Im old enough that I won't have to ever purchase an electric car. I'll keep my dodge challenger until I cant get gas or cant afford it. By then I shouldn't be driving anymore so.... im going to be an oldtimer still riding a horse in 1920, refusing to buy a car🤣. I know it will be fine. Innovation and new things are wonderful. As a kid and growing up i saw test tube televisions. Then came the "transistor" that replaced those glowing light bulb looking things. On and on, I've seen more technological changes during my lifetime than I could have ever imagined. We as a planet need to keep moving. Im just getting too old to keep up. So when you see the dodge challenger with the grey haired biker blowing off the rear tires.... im still alive for the day🤣
@@vf12497439 I'd not put them in same category. Since car engines worked the same way for longer than you've been alive, and electric is in no way similar. They all have a "carriage", but so do ships and planes and 🛸. A gas powered TV would be something tho
I love how it's only apples to oranges, when the one you want to win gets is ass handed to it. It's vehicle to vehicle, plain and simple. Both were designed to do the exact same thing, but one simply did it better.
@@DalionHeartTTV EXACTLY. The Tesla can take the fam on vacation, fetch groceries, and then spank a vette at the drag strip. The vette does win in one category, though; that is one sexy looking automobile. I'll take one of each, lol.
Is this in Charlotte?
Yup, my old man has that same Tesla... ruins anything, anywhere, every time...out of a corner, on ramp, dead stop dig, on a roll.. then he rolls his window down to wave and have a chat.. an 88 year old man.. in his grocery getter... it is funny.
Probably the only spot the Tesla would lose is if an evenly matched car to the Tesla had a mile or longer drag race.
That’s sounds like me in my Plaid. I’m 76. I own a Demon too and the Plaid makes it look stupid.
Now you just need a bunch a huge capacitors for the jump then switch to battery when you are up to speed. Might need to be a special drive train. The forces involved might rip stuff apart.
You could do thousands and thousands with only batteries too. Tesla is kind of underpowered considering what could be possible.
Tried a Model S Plaid. And this thing is mindblowing. You know, i love cars. I love the sound, the noise, the smell, the vibrations, the manual gear etc. I love that pure mechanic soul, this incredible human creation. From the deep of my heart. But, obviously, electric cars are the future. Because it works, and it works too well. It breaks my heart to imagine that we're observing the end of an era. That thermic cars will soon be something old, something you watch, hear and use by nostalgia. But i have to admit, this is it. This is where we are now... And trying to fight it would be unnatural. It would be like refusing what we love in the incredible cars like the ZR1 today because of what they were in the past. It hurst but this is the way... I'm sure we and our children will find how crazy the cars from tomorrow can be and how we can love them. And, in 10, 20 or 30 years, regarding where we will be, we'll watch today's cars and thinking with a little smile on our faces and a bit of nostalgic love in our mind, that finally, and for good old engineering reasons, it couldn't have been different.
That notchback is gorgeous.
The Covette driver was really on it, great launch
Corvette has electronic launch control.
Closer than I thought it would be! That Mustang driver had the reaction time of a corpse!
Mustang?
@@capnskiddies yes, did you watch the video?
Didn’t think it would start off that way!
I work for ****A and i still get excited when a model S/X base or plaid comes in. Hell even the 3 and Y are fun. The newer plaids are a different beast though. Theyre also a PITA to work on
If u have a brushless rc car u knew this was coming
I do.,..LOL ...I have a 1/10th Slash Taxxas 2WD with 2 cells so its 7.4Volts.Been doing this for 10 years....more power? Add another 3.7 volts to make it 3 cells and put that in the Slash and it goes much faster...Even take a look at a 6 cells and that 4 wheel drive losing it tires.
Yep big change from when i was a kid trying to get my brushed mechanical speed controller rc up to 35mph lol. Now my brushless rc's do 50+ easy..and last 2x longer. Crazy fun i must say.
I only have a 2020 Model 3 LR and not a Plaid but I can dust off most cars at the light which I don’t often do since it’s not for racing. The ZR1 driver did really good and gave an impressive outing.
I smoke you guys in my cts v
@@sssjdemon4686I smoke you in my 22 MSLR
"which I don’t often do since it’s not for racing"
Or because you want to get home again 😂
That type of behavior really chews through the battery.
That mustang was my first car ever. Loved that thing.
That vette was really impressive, good driving too.
Did you know that a camshaft and valve springs are no longer needed to open and close valves in a recent ICE? Each valve has its own tiny electric motor that opens and closes the valve where lift and duration are controlled electronically.
There are very few experimental engines with what you are describing. Koenigsegg's FreeValve being the most well known. There are a few cool DIY setups out there as well.
I don't know of any production vehicle that has electrically operated valves without camshafts.
@@zoidsfan77 I don't know of any production vehicles with this set up either so that makes at least 2 of us that agree on something whether we like it or not, don't it?
Nice ! Next step is to increase the size of these tiny electric motors and get rid of the ICE engine.
This is just the beginning. Energy density is increasing each year. This will be the classic footage of old timey EVs before they went hyper speed.
No street car is going to have hyper speed lol, if you want to watch that right now just search for top fuel dragster, 300mph in 3 seconds.
@@d.cuesta7118 and it took a hundred years to get there.
@@crtmojo2705 and isn’t even remotely close to being practical for street use
Sorry, the human body doesnt handle hyper speeds (acceleration)
@@degeneralist3.088 How the hell would you know?
Best part of this is knowing if something goes wrong with the ZR1 you can actually fix it not having to deal with that non-existent Tesla customer service or non existent parts!
I remember late 90s at local drag strip we all hated on the WRXs cos they would never do a burnout, made bugger all sound, yet wiped the floor with the big block V8s. Now electric doing the same thing.
ZR1 had a great run at the time he did, best i ever did in a 911 turbo was 11 secs
300hp more + awd. If the race goes for just a bit longer the Tesla starts dragging and gets wasted.
Works for 400 mts straight without turns tho.
It's a dumb fast family car. It has air ride, soft suspension, it's for families. Top-end? Add in gears. At GoodWood there was this McMurtry EV. Sounds like a jet fighter, but is a pure EV. Trashes literally everything available currently. Go check it out.
The Tesla Plaid will keep pulling away, fact. The Plaid is capable of at least 216MPH(More to give), Vette can't come near that. No contest at any speed, vette would only do better on a track.
@@Henry_Jr_Watsson lol, dude, you sounds utterly ridiculous
@@potcommitted5355 Maxed out. LOL
@@potcommitted5355 ur name just proves how much of 🤡 u are….ain’t nothing maxed out
I'd still take the ZR1 any day of the week.
9:30’s?? WTF, those battery cars are fast! Wonder how many passes you can make before you gotta plug it in? Incidentally, that vette was pretty quick too
I have driven many sports cars, I own myself a Nissan 300ZX modified to over 400 HP. My daily drive is now a Tesla Model 3 Performance. While ICE vehicles are fun, and the sound of engines with turbos are even more fun, I have to admit, EVs are the future... as someone from Tesla told me when I got the car “welcome to the future”. I can say that I am never ever going back to ICE. It actually took me just one day of driving the Model 3 to know that I am never going back. Cheers
Never say "never". We're reaching an odd time in human history where the availability of high tech may actually decline rather than advance.
Honestly, the plaid has like 300 hp on him and instant torque.
He was still hanging with him, and unlike the Tesla that's a track monster Porsche 911 GT2s and Lamborghini Aventadors check under their beds for.
I'll take the C7 ZR1 anyday
Tesla doesn't tell the truth. The car's making 1100hp to the wheels bone stock. The vette makes 660-670whp, maybe 680whp on a really good day, so I'd say it's more like 430hp (max output vs max output) on the ZR1. Don't forget the Tesla makes almost 100% of the power the whole way, while the ZR1 has to rev out to hit the 670, so average useful hp throughout the race is about 620whp-640whp. Also, the Tesla doesn't have to shift. with all those odds stacked against the vette (including the huge wing, splitters and other aero), the vette still put up a good enough fight. Chevy really put together a fine ass car there! Not to mention (as you pointed out), it's not even a straight line car!
A gt2 rs pretty much beats a zr1 on every track although the zr1 is a bargain
@@ericship8383 the c7 zr1 is a bargain?
@@jeff-hd9og compared to the 250k Porsche it rivals?
Yes.
The ultimate vette can be had for like 160k
Teslas are far from track monsters. Plus their fit/finish is horrendous
The automotive industry has finally shaken up by a technological factor. That factor is the Electric Vehicle such as Tesla. I recently test drove an early model of the tesla Model S owned by my sister in law. That thing defies latency that set the boundaries of ICE cars. It was like launching an RC car on a massive scale. You feel the torque go through your stomach as soon as you give the accelerator a gentle touch. But that was a good race to watch. I love the vettes and will always love them, but I also admire what tesla has done. It's a game changer in the industry. With the price of fossil fuel sky rocketing, eventually the demand for EV's will be greater than ICE powered vehicles. Thanks for posting the video.
Now let's do a distance race. 🤣
I used to be into R/C Cars big time when I was younger. I first started off with gas R/C cars as electric R/C cars that batteries didn't last that long. However, I took a 10-15 year hiatus from them and went with electric R/C cars as they improved the batteries. I could tell right off the bat that Electric R/C cars were quick and quicker off the line. Once Car companies solve the range problem and the prices come down on Electric Cars I don't think it will take too much convincing the American Public to switch over once they find on fun these cars are to drive.
Funny, you're right. When I was racing RC cars in the 90's, ALL you wanted was "4 minutes plus one lap" battery life. Now it's like "hold my controller, I'm going for lunch".
Electric r/c aircraft have instant power/torque no mess and engines don't stop unless they fail completely which does happen eventually.
The infrastructure needs to improve too, like where to recharge and how long it takes. Apartments, for example, need to have the ability to recharge EVs.
nope, not at all on any point you made
It's not only the transition from nickel metal h to lithium Palmer batteries that changed the rc game. The huge jump was in the new brushless motors from brushed. Huge huge improvement there.
Back then we had to work at getting our rc's up to 30mph. Now ready to run rc's out of the box do 50 to 60. Nuts.
I'd like to have a Tesla Plaid so I can sell it and buy a C7 ZR1.
I’d like to buy one. I was in one the a few weeks ago and it’s stupid fast and I was a passenger. After my Model Y and Cybertruck that will be my next Tesla.
Exactly….it’s not just about speed. Tesla is fast with no soul in it.
Only thing that beats the Tesla are 1200, 1500, 1600hp Supra and GTR. ( Maybe a Porsche 9ff)
@@oreally8605 forgot Bugatti Chiron
LMAO!
Racing a 4-door sedan, complete with childrens' infotainment system in the back seat.
It would be interesting to see a 2022 zr1 take the place of the old zr1
Is it just me, or is it very satisfying to watch an ordinary looking car shred up these souped up stylish looking 'sports cars'.
Hearing petrolpurists talk about 'soulless' EVs feels for me like a repeat of history. When cars were invented horseriders had the exact same argument about a horse vs a lifeless machine. You can only chuckle reading back on their arguments back then. What the naysayers don't realize is that the petrolcars are at the end of their era, having evolved into the most awesome they can be, and the EV's are just at the start of theirs. I have no doubt that in time EVs will deliver on all fronts and then a whole lot more we can't even imagine right now. Embrace change people, life is more fun that way and you can appreciate a true genesis when you see one.
Um, how old are you to be speaking anecdotally about those times?
Girls crowd around my little vw dune buggy and 58 Chrysler, every single gas station, stop light, etc. Ive met near half the town already just because they want to check out my car.
Never saw that happen to a Tesla.
How can you speak about 100yrs ago when you are clearly 12
How do you know? Where you there to verify that happened and that’s what people talked about? Not everybody rode horses too lol
Which one is cheaper?
What is left of the charge after that race?
One run likely uses 2-3%.
I thought the Vette was going yo win since it hung close for the first couple hundred feet, but the Plaid kept going hard. Great race to watch.
The vett was catching him at the end also
You absolutely cannot compare an electric car to a gasoline powered one. Completely different. Put that ugly thing on a road course and see what happens.
@@johndexter4971 they did, at Nürburgring the fastest lap time is a Porsche hybrid half gas half electric, and second place is a Volkswagen all-electric ID-R lmao.
@@TheBalrey Tesla build mostly cushy cars, without much regard for handling nor ability to have good endurance in the tracks. ID-R is built by VW racing engineers, who had enough knowledge from races like Le Mans to come up with an adequate EV racing car with good amount of downforce to maintain traction. EV or not, Teslas are not serious cars for people who enjoy driving winding roads.
@@jasonvanesch3093 Let's see, the Vette was doing 131 and the Plaid was doing 151 and still accelerating if he keeps his foot in it. Sure the Vette was "catching up". 🤣🤣 The Plaids top speed with street tires is a limited 175 (if not limited there is a video of it doing 216 which took about 27 seconds). They claim a C7 ZR1 can hit 212 (also with proper tires I imagine) BUT what does it's torque curve look like? The Plaids is virtually flat all the way.
I'm amazed at the number of people who don't realize that the ZR-1 has launch control.
Maybe but why should we?
@@fredman1085 You should know if you read the title it plainly says Corvette ZR-1 and Drag Race,
Any fool knows there are are different modes. Sheesh.
I'm amazed at the number of people who don't realise that Tesla is bullshit or any electric car for that matter!
@@martinandersson9712 lmao you big mad for some reason 🤣
@@phase_1471 Yes, his girlfriend just left him for a guy with a better car.
I want to see Tesla/Ev on road course/circuit, if it’s any good.
Tesla plaid didn't have to warm up the tire.😂 killed that vette.
This technology physically impossible to beat on acceleration. It’s just simple science. And I know that combustion engines are all soon to become collectors items. But I still love them, because I grew up with them, and they’ll always have a place in my heart. It’s cool to be alive during this time. Cheers.
Which one goes from empty to full faster?
Pretty sad when the only race you can win involves huffing gasaholeline.