Crashing Immediately Before Landing in Switzerland | Cockpit Failure

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2020
  • Minutes before they're scheduled to land in Zurich, the pilots of a routine passenger flight cannot find the runway. They abort and power up the engines in order to climb, but they are too late. Find out what happened to Crossair Flight 3597.
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  • @Spunky786
    @Spunky786 Před 4 lety +582

    WTF! After all those incidents he was still allowed to continue flying, makes me wonder how many other unqualified pilots might be up there in the sky right now

    • @julosx
      @julosx Před 4 lety +24

      There must not be that many given air crashes have become pretty rare now. They are more likely to happen in South American countries these days according to what happened these last ten years.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 Před 4 lety +26

      There are some idiots who slipped thru the cracks I'm sure. We have seen it here in the U.S. too. The majors are very hard to get hired by if you can't get thru the rigorous training. But there is always an exception.

    • @skuula
      @skuula Před 4 lety +19

      Hm yeah for every accident there probably are 30 almost-accidents, and 1000 cases of dubious airmanship.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 Před 4 lety +8

      @Brian Smith What a surprise. There are more than a few carriers who need to do the same thing before more innocent lives are lost.

    • @Z4Zander
      @Z4Zander Před 4 lety +13

      @Brian Smith Did they fire anyone who hires these "pilots".

  • @69k_gold
    @69k_gold Před 4 lety +58

    My dad told me this crash went unnoticed in public due to the Sep 11 attacks. Thank you, my friend, for making this video.

    • @MarcDufresneosorusrex
      @MarcDufresneosorusrex Před 3 lety +3

      yes, i agree

    • @mj1234321
      @mj1234321 Před 3 lety +4

      I didn't know about this until about 12 years ago I guess when I heard a La Bouche song and said, I wonder what ever happened to them and looked it up. I was very saddened to learn of Melanie Thornton's tragic fate, and that of everyone else lost on the flight.

  • @arvantsaraihan5777
    @arvantsaraihan5777 Před 4 lety +706

    Those 21 passengers that didn't board to this flight were so lucky

    • @VoluntaryPlanet
      @VoluntaryPlanet Před 4 lety +25

      Those 21 passengers that didn't board this flight were so lucky*

    • @MatthewTaylor3
      @MatthewTaylor3 Před 4 lety +37

      This sounds like a "Final Destination" movie about to begin.

    • @cryobytedoesstuff2302
      @cryobytedoesstuff2302 Před 4 lety +15

      TheVoluntaryistPilot Those 21 passengers that didn’t board the flight were so lucky.*

    • @Michael-gi5th
      @Michael-gi5th Před 4 lety +32

      Anyone know how they missed their flight?

    • @johnmackinon9691
      @johnmackinon9691 Před 4 lety +6

      @@VoluntaryPlanet were**** so lucky

  • @Joypyf
    @Joypyf Před 4 lety +57

    RIP Melanie Thornton...Sweet Dreams was a childhood classic of mine

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

  • @RichartEgli
    @RichartEgli Před 4 lety +18

    Hello. I`m from Switzerland and i remeber the day it happend. Bassersdorf Zurich 24. November 2001.
    On board was also the US-singer Melanie Thornton. Her song "wonderful dream" was on heavy rotation on swiss radiostations at this time.
    Her last album (may 2001) was titled "ready to fly"

    • @cyrilbrandli9298
      @cyrilbrandli9298 Před 3 lety +2

      RichartEgli I'm also from Switzerland near Zürichs airport. Very often i visit LSZH for watching airplanes. It is shocking that such an incompetent pilot was allowed to fly an airliner in and out of Zürich...

    • @kreidefelsen
      @kreidefelsen Před 3 lety

      @@cyrilbrandli9298 I was there the exact same day with a friend. We were spotting / photographing planes approaching runway 14. We left when the weather became worse...sad day.

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Yes, Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 Před rokem +1

      La Bouche was red hot in North America in the early 90s, they had some massive club hits

  • @user-zp8rd1yu6m
    @user-zp8rd1yu6m Před 4 lety +375

    my mom, dad, brother and sister missed the flight by 5 minutes. thank you god!

    • @ExXxC4L1BUR
      @ExXxC4L1BUR Před 3 lety +10

      Glad to hear that

    • @spassgamer
      @spassgamer Před 3 lety +21

      Wonderful :) Give Jesus your life, he is the one and only living and loving God. Only he can save you.

    • @shannonrutledge8872
      @shannonrutledge8872 Před 3 lety +11

      @THE REAL DIRTY DAN wow! 5 minutes late saved their lives! I bet they were freaked out when they heard the news!

    • @ausjen
      @ausjen Před 3 lety +5

      How lucky are they

    • @spassgamer
      @spassgamer Před 3 lety +7

      @@h0ne5t1y3 Nope, I am filled with the holy spirit and believe in Jesus.

  • @6z0
    @6z0 Před 4 lety +55

    2:37 little did they know missing that flight was the best thing that would ever happen to them in their life.

    • @JCDofNYC
      @JCDofNYC Před 4 lety +5

      Unfortunately, the reason they missed the flight is that they were all killed in a freak mine shaft explosion.
      True story.
      No, not really. They actually all died from eating tainted shrimp in the airport frequent flier's lounge.

    • @ghost.protocol
      @ghost.protocol Před 4 lety +2

      Jeffrey Dodson dafuq !!??

    • @6z0
      @6z0 Před 4 lety

      Jeffrey Dodson source

    • @JCDofNYC
      @JCDofNYC Před 4 lety +2

      @@6z0 It was meant as a joke. You know, just without the apparent humour component that is the sine qua non of joke manufacturing.

    • @suestoons
      @suestoons Před 4 lety +2

      @@JCDofNYC You win the internet for me today. 😁

  • @wheasdre
    @wheasdre Před 4 lety +206

    If i hear this background music while boarding im getting da hecc outta the plane

  • @niharikabhatnagar3930
    @niharikabhatnagar3930 Před 3 lety +5

    You're channel helps me calm down, get my head together, after a bad day or a heated argument. That's my life now, but I find things like watching your videos to get through it

  • @matt8863
    @matt8863 Před 4 lety +409

    What a damn shame... Pilot error yes, but a BAe 146 which is one of the quietest jet airliners ever built, being switched to a VOR/DME approach in poor visibility to satisfy a noise ordinance was absurd.

    • @admiralsnackbar69
      @admiralsnackbar69 Před 4 lety +18

      Yeah, makes no sense tbh

    • @hlcepeda
      @hlcepeda Před 4 lety +82

      Swiss residents on average are the wealthiest in the world... and Zurich is Switzerland's richest city; it's lousy with millionaires. Wealth can influence local laws and ordinances --- and buy some quiet.

    • @FairladyS130
      @FairladyS130 Před 4 lety +41

      Perhaps the airline should have scheduled the flight to arrive before 10.00 pm. Which seems a reasonable time to me.

    • @mustardstain504d6
      @mustardstain504d6 Před 4 lety +93

      @@FairladyS130 Perhaps liberal tree huggers should avoid purchasing homes near an international airport.

    • @tomrohan8480
      @tomrohan8480 Před 4 lety +9

      Absolutely..that was insane..

  • @mikegirard4388
    @mikegirard4388 Před 4 lety +41

    Wait... he retracted a gear while on the ground? I didn’t know that was possible. Thought there were sensors as interlocks. He wasn’t fired. That’s nuts.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 4 lety +32

      You are not wrong at all.
      Yes, there is a "squat switch" which sense the weight of the aircraft resting on the wheels. This switch is disabling the gear up selection while the aircraft is on the ground. However, there IS a "Pilot Override" button....
      Basically, you can use this function as your last resort emergency braking system. If you encounter poor braking action and can't stop your aircraft, you push that override button and select Gear Up. The gear then retracts, and you now have all the braking action you can wish for.
      I am not making this up, they teach us some rather nifty things in the Air Force.
      Clearly, Captain Lutz was never Air Force, because he didn't know this.
      I was briefly on SAAB 340, the type which he crashed while on the ground, so have heard the details of the "Legend of Lutz" :
      He was instructor on the 340, but did apparently not have much technical knowledge.
      Lutz entered a bet with a pilot on his training course. The bet was "What happens if you select gear up while on the ground ?"
      Lutz said "Nothing, the interlock will prevent the actuators from operating!!"
      There was only one way to settle the dispute. They got on the flight line, in a parked 340. And to prove his point.....Lutz pulled the Gear Selector handle....which didn't budge, because it was locked due to the squat switch sensing the weight of the aircraft resting on the wheels. So, to release that darn handle, and to be able to physically move the selector to Gear Up.....Captain Lutz pressed the Override button.....and lost his bet....
      (True story !!!)

    • @lindaross4331
      @lindaross4331 Před 3 lety +4

      Must have been a frightening drop. Crash!

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor Před 3 lety +8

      He tried to show his student that after pulling the cirquit braker, one could STILL not get the gear to raise. He was wrong. He had some head injury from the overhead panel, but he was not fired.

    • @1981amillia
      @1981amillia Před 2 lety

      @@thefreedomguyuk If this is an option then how come no pilot has retracted the gear to stop a plane?? I assume it would save a lot of lives!!

    • @johndalzell904
      @johndalzell904 Před rokem +1

      @@thefreedomguyuk I hadn't heard that -- unreal stupidity. Reminds me of the Russian captain (Alexander Klyuev) who made a bet with his copilot that he could land the plane blind. The bet was accepted and the cockpit blinds deployed so the captain could not see outside. He crashed and flipped the plane and 70 people died in the ensuing inferno. His copilot died of cardiac arrest in hospital but Klyuev survived and was sentenced to 15 years in prison (he was released after serving 6 years).

  • @chrisanon2560
    @chrisanon2560 Před 4 lety +34

    Only 9 survived? I'm amazed anyone survived! The plane flew into a hill.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor Před 3 lety +7

      the crash was into trees which slowed the impact considerably.

    • @antraneenas2343
      @antraneenas2343 Před rokem +2

      My mums friend survived, she told me what happened but all I can remember is that one of the wings fell of and she said she went through the hole. She was on fire though and the burn marks are still there

  • @empire0
    @empire0 Před 4 lety +80

    Someone probably called the cops to report the noise from the plane crashing.
    "those damn kids are out crashing their planes again and I gotta work tomorrow!"

    • @superrrnova1986
      @superrrnova1986 Před 3 lety +1

      That's the best damn logo I've ever seen on youtube
      🤘

    • @imanavgeekdontjudge5714
      @imanavgeekdontjudge5714 Před 3 lety +1

      That profile picture is a total eyesore.

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

  • @clapiotis
    @clapiotis Před 3 lety +21

    An inexperienced air traffic controller was alone in the control tower. A more experienced controller could have allowed the flight to land on runway 14 because of the poor weather conditions. (The final report of the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB, German acronym BFU) states also this as a factor that contributed to the accident.

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 10 měsíci

      This was because due to poor weather conditions at the time of incident, the runway 28 cannot be use for landing.

  • @liamhosking2947
    @liamhosking2947 Před 4 lety +194

    Wait, so you’re telling me that the Captain got his role with just 200 flying hours! That’s crazy!

    • @thomasdaniels6824
      @thomasdaniels6824 Před 4 lety +32

      Well, he logged 19300 hours after that, so he was definetly experienced.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 Před 4 lety +8

      *you're

    • @liamhosking2947
      @liamhosking2947 Před 4 lety +7

      Martin C. Ah thanks

    • @capta1nc
      @capta1nc Před 4 lety +18

      They weren't "captain" hours, they were PIC hours - it's possible he built up a lot of hours flying single-crew aircraft before going straight to captain in a multi.

    • @Cpt_zheng
      @Cpt_zheng Před 4 lety +13

      @@thef-35lockheedmartinlight11 its not that bad to correct someone if he's not an English native speaker. So he can learn. I'm not a native speaker, so if someone corrects me I would thank him :)

  • @crisprtalk6963
    @crisprtalk6963 Před 4 lety +117

    I am amazed 9 survived! Take home lesson: experience does NOT always equal competence.

    • @tinadiggs7456
      @tinadiggs7456 Před 4 lety +5

      That's very true!!!

    • @nancyayers6355
      @nancyayers6355 Před 4 lety +20

      I wonder what kind of injuries the survivors had to live with for the rest of their lives - some injuries are worse than immediate death!

    • @kijotiso4594
      @kijotiso4594 Před 4 lety +2

      @@nancyayers6355 Yeah, that's the point

    • @hshs5756
      @hshs5756 Před 4 lety +11

      Sometimes experience equals complacency and cockiness. There seems to be an endless supply of these "God in the Left Seat" accidents to analyze.

    • @antraneenas2343
      @antraneenas2343 Před rokem +1

      @@nancyayers6355 my mums friend survived and has fire scars on her. They are very visible

  • @OdysseyTag
    @OdysseyTag Před 4 lety +261

    Ah, the good ol' bad days when your fear of flying came from the possibility of immediately crashing just before landing as opposed to getting a contagious disease.

    • @JohnDoe-bf1fw
      @JohnDoe-bf1fw Před 4 lety +17

      Yeah, if you are 92, overweight, diabetic and have a bad heart, Covid 19 might get you. Don't believe everything CNN tells you.

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 Před 4 lety +15

      @@JohnDoe-bf1fw So true . We trashed everything over a fake hoax

    • @pasoundman
      @pasoundman Před 4 lety +7

      An INFECTIOUS disease to be accurate.

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 Před 4 lety +5

      @@pasoundman Ok Democrat

    • @pasoundman
      @pasoundman Před 4 lety +10

      @@johndouglas5712 What has believing in democracy got to do with it ? Would you rather have a dictatorship perhaps ? Do you even realise that Covid-19 is viral pneumonia ?

  • @janghoon62
    @janghoon62 Před 4 lety +215

    RIP all the people who died in this crash

    • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 Před 4 lety +7

      I hope the families of the victims sued the hell out of Crossair. Incompetence keeps passengers and crew in the cross hairs of a death dealing pilot. He knew he shouldn't be flying, but hey, I guess the money was good. This was inevitable.

    • @paciic
      @paciic Před 4 lety

      Don't you dare make a 'Press f to pay respect'

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 Před 4 lety

      Game Plays 1230 You’re out of your mind. Seek help.

    • @paciic
      @paciic Před 4 lety

      Martin C. I don't like the 'the rip is stage' thing
      But the investigation checks out

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 Před rokem +1

      Lost one of the best techno bands from the 90s as well, a terrible loss to the music world.

  • @shreyshah50
    @shreyshah50 Před 4 lety +13

    Your videos are a whole package of a superb plot, thrill, mystery, and eye-catching visuals and sounds.

  • @dx1450
    @dx1450 Před 3 lety +25

    He once retracted the landing gear while still on the apron? I'm not a pilot, but how the hell do you make THAT mistake?

  • @MulletHead87
    @MulletHead87 Před 4 lety +134

    Flight Attendant: "Seems our pilot has died, Anybody know how to fly!"
    Passenger 1: "Im a retired pilot of 40yrs"
    Me: "Im subbed to Flight Channel and know of every disaster and their causes in the history of Aviation"
    Flight Attendent: "Say no more! Please take over!!"

    • @colinzhu9631
      @colinzhu9631 Před 4 lety +20

      Flight Attendant: "Do you need a manual?"
      Me: "No need. TheFlightChannel has everything!"

    • @MatthewTaylor3
      @MatthewTaylor3 Před 4 lety +11

      If that's the case, then I'm subscribed to both Captain Joe and Mentour Aviation, so I'd be the most qualified passenger onboard to land the aircraft safely 😂

    • @Al-hb2wo
      @Al-hb2wo Před 4 lety

      @@MatthewTaylor3 lel

    • @NearGoldFish805
      @NearGoldFish805 Před 4 lety +5

      flight attendant: anybody knows how to fly here?
      me with 2,5 hours in a cessna 152:

    • @tomcorwine3091
      @tomcorwine3091 Před 3 lety +3

      @@NearGoldFish805 Congratulations on 2.5! I hope you’re able to continue your training.

  • @FippyDarkpaw2
    @FippyDarkpaw2 Před 4 lety +38

    Sir, we are short on qualified pilots.
    No problem, we have plenty of trained incompetent ones to fly our customers to their destinations.
    Yes Sir!

    • @BrettonFerguson
      @BrettonFerguson Před 3 lety +7

      Yep pilots fault because he had a few close calls in 22 years and 20,000 miles of flying. Don't say anything about the airports good idea to not let pilots land on the runway with sophisticated equipment in poor weather cause of “noise restrictions.”

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

  • @Sintaxx
    @Sintaxx Před 3 lety +2

    I've watched almost all of your important re-enactment videos and many of them really depress me because of the often preventable loss of human life, but this one really, really made me horribly sad. I was a fan of LaBouche and I've known that Melanie died in a plane crash, but to just randomly watch one of your videos and to get the shocking realization that this video was a depiction of her last moments was very, very depressing to me.. I cry for all the victims of these disasters which are ,more often than not, preventable but this one really hit me hard.
    Keep revealing the causes of these accidents with your re-enactment videos. They are helping to bring awareness of pilot error and mechanical limitations, and so, by your efforts you are saving lives..

  • @James-oo1yq
    @James-oo1yq Před 4 lety +36

    The large group that didn't make the flight won the lottery that day...so to speak 🤔. Criminal how that captain was allowed to continue as a pilot after so many f ups!

    • @thatrandomguy8124
      @thatrandomguy8124 Před 4 lety

      Ok boomer, ik you dont know shit about Aviation but it wasnt completey his fault

    • @alexandergutfeldt1144
      @alexandergutfeldt1144 Před 4 lety +1

      That BTD Battles Guy Why? Please explain.
      I don't know, not questioning you statement, just trying to understand.

    • @James-oo1yq
      @James-oo1yq Před 4 lety +4

      That BTD Battles Guy Of course it wasn't completely his fault...and I didn't say that at all. Oh..the "OK Boomer" thing is so 2019, keep up!

    • @James-oo1yq
      @James-oo1yq Před 4 lety

      Alexander Gutfeldt It's his Dad that flew it into the ground...give him a break 😂

    • @suestoons
      @suestoons Před 4 lety +2

      @@thatrandomguy8124
      First, please explain to me why "boomer" is being thrown around as if it were an insult? Pfft, kids these days.
      Second, this accident was COMPLETELY the Captain's fault.
      - Yes, I am a Boomer, quite proudly, and a feminist, AND worked in aviation for 25 years as Canadian FSS in the High Arctic and sub-Arctic.

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 Před 4 lety +52

    If I said it once, I've said it a thousand times: I hate flying at night.

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Před 4 lety +3

      and winter

    • @GoldenMushroom64
      @GoldenMushroom64 Před 3 lety +4

      Flying at night isn’t too bad. Taking off or landing on the other hand...

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety +11

      No need to fear the night. Because Captain Lutz flew equally badly in broad daylight.

    • @AstralOblivion
      @AstralOblivion Před 3 lety +3

      I hate flying in general...

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety +1

      @@AstralOblivion Fairs !

  • @cedricye1767
    @cedricye1767 Před 4 lety +3

    I have already watched the ACI version of this crash, but your video is so much better. Good job TFC!

  • @jessicasnaplesfl7474
    @jessicasnaplesfl7474 Před 4 lety +98

    The last minute switch from the fully equipped STRAIGHT approach to runway 14 to the complex approach of seldom used runway 28 which was NOT equipped with ILS, was the major factor that caused this flight to crash. The approach to 28 was four times longer than 14 and required a 180' change in direction sandwiched between 2 minor direction corrections. 28 was rarely used because of its complexity and outdated VOR/DME instrumentation. It was nighttime with poor visibility and bad weather. This last minute switch of runways must have been a nightmare for the experienced captain with weak flying credentials. ATC NEVER SHOULD HAVE SWITCHED THE FLIGHT TO RUNWAY #28 in those conditions. The safety of airline passengers should supersede a few extra minutes of sleep for those living close to an airport.
    With his difficulties navigating, this captain might have made a habit of turning over actual flying in difficult situations to seasoned co-pilots under the guise of "teaching" them or giving them more experience. He couldn't do that here with a new co-pilot with only 480 hours of flying time so he was likely busy dealing with the left-right corrections on the old VOR/DME system and he forgot about ALTITUDE for a few seconds and there was no early warning. ILS has an altitude warning. Captain probably thought he was still on ILS system for a second or two. The ILS provides BOTH horizontal and VERTICAL guidance as well as angle of descent for best speed to land but there was no ILS on this rarely used runway 28.
    Runway 28 was rarely used because of Its twists and turns and lack of new equipment. It would be difficult to navigate with any technology. The moment noise restrictions were placed on runway 14, new technology should have been applied to runway 28. Runway 14 is STRAIGHT and simple. How could this airport have FAILED to UPGRADE runway 28 to the best ILS system when it was so treacherous? The lesser technology of 28 plus the increased difficulty of navigating a horrendous approach without ILS at nighttime in a storm was a huge contribution to this crash but all was attributed to pilot error.
    How could ATC redirect this flight to such a treacherous runway 28 at night in a storm when its instrumentation lacked an altitude indicator or warning? ILS works in "O" visibility - indicated for these conditions. ATC should have kept to the original flight plan and guided the flight to land safely on runway 14 as planned and ignored the 2 minutes past the noise restriction.
    ILS for runway 28 approaches would have alerted a stressed out captain to his dangerous low altitude and allowed him time for a go-around. Early Warnings of low altitude BENEATH the minimum descent altitude (MDA) are absent for non-precision landings with VOR/DME.
    Was there also some confusion between the reported 2,400' MDA (above sea level) and the reported 1,000' altitude which is below the actual MDA? The airplane continued to descend past the MDA while visual reference was still questionable.
    In non-precision landings like those directed by VOR/DME, the MDA MINIMUM DESCENT ALTITUDE is the lowest permissible altitude ABOVE SEA LEVEL of approved descent until visual contact is made. The pilot and co-pilot both said they had visual contact but neither sounded definite. The DESCENT CONTINUED until a low altitude warning sounded at "500" feet - minimum. Captain ordered a go-around but it was too late. The altitude was probably incorrect as well.
    I'd put most blame for this crash on the ATC and the airport; ATC for last minute redirection of this flight onto a poorly equipped seldom used complex runway, difficult to navigate in the best of conditions, and the airport for not upgrading 28 the moment new noise restrictions went into effect. How could ATC make such a change just 2 minutes past the noise deadline at night in a snowstorm? NO COMMON SENSE.

    • @karlelias
      @karlelias Před 4 lety +10

      Jessica thanks for your comment. I fully agree with you!

    • @lamegaming9835
      @lamegaming9835 Před 4 lety +1

      textwall

    • @alexchristopher221
      @alexchristopher221 Před 4 lety +5

      ATC had confidence in the pilot. But this one turned out to be negligent in basic navigation.

    • @alexgroves8566
      @alexgroves8566 Před 4 lety +2

      @@PerfactFunToys . Thanks for pointing that out, or no one would've noticed.

    • @mrofnocnon
      @mrofnocnon Před 4 lety +3

      Maintaining quiet for wealthy liberals is more important than lives.

  • @nicolemillner4840
    @nicolemillner4840 Před 4 lety +7

    Love ur vids been subbed for a few years and I’m always here for you I hope you know that no matter what video you upload I will always watch to the end

  • @joellenb8671
    @joellenb8671 Před 4 lety +3

    Wow. Just wow. Captain Lutz was allowed to continue flying because they had a shortage of qualified pilots. Sooo, umm.......that worked out well for the Airline. [Stellar work as usual The Flight Channel] Regards from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @737tech
    @737tech Před 4 lety +130

    Every runway that is used by an airline should have an ILS.

    • @StarTheAvgeek
      @StarTheAvgeek Před 4 lety +7

      737tech I agree every runway at a Intl airport must have ILS

    • @fongkei523
      @fongkei523 Před 4 lety +3

      @@StarTheAvgeek i agree too. Just what is the average standard for the ILS, CAT II or CAT III

    • @StarTheAvgeek
      @StarTheAvgeek Před 4 lety +1

      @@fongkei523 yes

    • @felicitybali6969
      @felicitybali6969 Před 4 lety +2

      This could happen. Although many remote airports have not installed a ILS

    • @StarTheAvgeek
      @StarTheAvgeek Před 4 lety

      @@felicitybali6969 Yes its Far too common for a Crash like this

  • @SeverinLP
    @SeverinLP Před 4 lety +18

    RIP Melanie Thornton

  • @ethanm3923
    @ethanm3923 Před 4 lety +155

    Might as well have said “sorry, there’s noise restrictions in place for the airport. Instead you will have to land on the adjacent highway. Goodluck!” seems like a good idea to not let pilots land on the runway with sophisticated equipment in poor weather cause of “noise restrictions.”

    • @Rayq007
      @Rayq007 Před 4 lety +3

      This was by design. It wasn't bad luck

    • @nancyayers6355
      @nancyayers6355 Před 4 lety

      Right!?!?

    • @nw6070
      @nw6070 Před 4 lety +2

      @@mia.t what other flights do you get other than ones in the "air"? oh and by the way humanity needs to learn to not be flying at all hours of the day and night unless of course it crosses time zones / is a long international flight. Thank goodness for corona giving the sky a break

    • @garthcox4
      @garthcox4 Před 4 lety +2

      And at night .........

    • @MrMattumbo
      @MrMattumbo Před 4 lety +27

      Seriously, I know Switzerland isn't a big place so people might be forced to live near an airport but holy shit is that a stupid way of handling it. Yeah, let's put the ILS equipment on a runway we can't legally use at night when it's most needed... I've lived under an approach path to a huge international airport for over a decade and I slept like a fucking baby even with A380s flying overhead so I'm really confused why the complaints of a few light sleepers were given more weight than the safety of the flying public.

  • @House2017
    @House2017 Před 4 lety +19

    Wow...even if there were a shortage of pilots, someone should not be getting away with that kind of incompetence for 22 years. Jesus...

    • @BrettonFerguson
      @BrettonFerguson Před 3 lety +2

      22 years and he had a few close calls. Are their any pilots who don't have any close calls in 22 years and 20,000 miles? Maybe they should let their pilots get more sleep between flights if they don't want any close calls. Also maybe at night in the mountains in a snowstorm, maybe they should have let the plane land using instruments, instead of making them do a visual approach on a different runway so they wouldn't fly over any houses and keep anyone awake.

    • @spassgamer
      @spassgamer Před 3 lety

      Jesus is no swear word, but the savior of the world :)

  • @johnnorth9355
    @johnnorth9355 Před 4 lety +7

    Where was ATC/Ground Control in all of this ? Surely they must have been monitoring the flight and it's altitude and position ?

  • @britishaviationsp2535
    @britishaviationsp2535 Před 4 lety +6

    I was a ATC for Zurich at the time of the crash seeing the other controller trying to get in contact with the plane
    I knew something happened it was a heartbreaking scene for me

    • @suestoons
      @suestoons Před 4 lety +1

      That must have been horrifying, I hate when that happens. [Canadian FSS here, been there, done that].
      -
      Perhaps you could answer a question for me if you remember. How long before this accident was the noise restriction put in place? Was it changed after this accident or did they improve the Nav Aids?

  • @lungzish
    @lungzish Před 4 lety +34

    Didnt expect this ending after seeing how well experienced the captain was🙁, RIP to all that lost their lives

    • @paulrelgne2149
      @paulrelgne2149 Před 4 lety +3

      @dobromeister I wonder how the people felt that advocated for a 10pm noise by-law and were they ever made aware of that landing change which resulted in a crash?

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 Před rokem

      La Bouche, was one of the hottest bands of the early 90s, it was a terrible loss.

  • @paul.g4572
    @paul.g4572 Před 4 lety +3

    This Video was very well made. Thank you.
    Rip the 24 occupants who passed that day.

  • @shuttle_aero9399
    @shuttle_aero9399 Před 4 lety +30

    Flight channel does A great job at editing

    • @katiegroth7111
      @katiegroth7111 Před 4 lety +3

      The Flight Channel has saved me during this COVID period as we are older and don’t go many places. Thanks for a great job!

  • @ferdinand_knapp
    @ferdinand_knapp Před 4 lety +7

    According to German Wikipedia, Jacqueline Badran, Swiss deputy, and her college, only decided to sit at the end part of the plane because they were annoyed by the members of the pop group "Passion Fruit", of which 2 of the 3 members died. The end part of the airplane remained mostly undamaged. Later Badran apparently stated that the members of the pop group saved her life.

  • @WendyKS93
    @WendyKS93 Před 4 lety +3

    Saw this story in a one hour show on TV recently about plane crashes and it was based on their extensive investigation, black boxes and cockpit voice recordings and it went into great detail showing just how incompetent this Captain truly was. Listening to the dialog between the Captain and First Officer you found yourself wondering how in the world this man had made Captain and kept his rating and had even been a training instructor as well. This Captain truly didn't know what he was doing and the First Officer was very new and had only a few hundred hours experience and 24 people lost their lives because of it. Thank goodness 21 passengers never made the plane as planned. Flight Channel this is another great video.

  • @dishauppal8810
    @dishauppal8810 Před 4 lety +2

    It's just wow,love your work❤️it's been 2 years since I subscribed to you,👍

  • @fluffy-fluffy5996
    @fluffy-fluffy5996 Před 4 lety +15

    One survivor thanked his survival due to Passion Fruit basically. They were very loud and annoyed the passenger. He moved to the back.
    Of the group Passion Fruit just one member survived.

    • @freezetasticvoyage19
      @freezetasticvoyage19 Před 4 lety

      And that member is physically fucked up for life.

    • @sisu4134
      @sisu4134 Před 4 lety

      Thank you bc I was wondering who survived this. I'm assuming if most everyone in the front of the plane perished that includes both captain & co-pilot. Ill Google it to see if I can find out more unless you know? 🤷😁

  • @aqmarbatrisyiazakaria4496

    off the bat, amazing visualisation made by The Flight Channel! Enjoyed every bit of the video. RIP to the lives lost

  • @taylorfrench5080
    @taylorfrench5080 Před 4 lety

    This is probably one of your best-looking videos to date! Keep up the good work!!

  • @essencetoney933
    @essencetoney933 Před 4 lety +9

    Melanie Throrton had a beautiful voice ☹️

  • @indianocean9521
    @indianocean9521 Před 4 lety +15

    Flight channe is very informative. thank you, this is my fav aircrash channel, also I like Allec Ibay channel.and also Wings&Tail channel. But Flight channel is the best.

  • @kaz1_f1
    @kaz1_f1 Před 4 lety +7

    It kinda sucks before landing and seeing your family and the next second the plane falls and you are on your final seconds of your life. R.I.P to those passengers on CrossAir 3597

  • @lakelndlivingwater5114
    @lakelndlivingwater5114 Před 4 lety +40

    Just when you thought it was going to be the co-pilot's fault.....

    • @grati907
      @grati907 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes.. I was thinking bout that before got to knew that the 100% fault is from the captain

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety +1

      I'll actually say this was equally much the guy in the right seat screwing up. The purpose of a monitoring pilot is to relieve the flying pilot of the controls, should the latter act erratically. The PM did not take control here.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety

      @@77l96 Indeed. And where I've been working, two captains very often got teamed together, with one of them in the right seat. The FO is often a captain as well.

    • @dx1450
      @dx1450 Před 3 lety +1

      @@77l96 Well, if you go back to the beginning of this video, the FO on this flight was very inexperienced. Not that I'd say unqualified, though.

    • @seppiluthold5014
      @seppiluthold5014 Před 3 lety

      @@grati907 Not 100 percent. He shared some blame as well.

  • @flyingluftwaffe9617
    @flyingluftwaffe9617 Před 4 lety +5

    Already liked because all videos are amazing :)))
    Btw I have watched all of your videos believe me or not except for the gameplay lol

  • @pedrocabrera116
    @pedrocabrera116 Před 4 lety +28

    Welcome back me :) I love these

  • @borinightmare
    @borinightmare Před 4 lety +8

    I remembered that flight very well. It was all over the European and national radio airwaves. Melanie Thornton of LaBouche was a talented singer back in the 90s. It is sad that she died because the pilot didn't know what the hell he was doing. He shouldn't fly up there period. Also Passion Fruit was one of the top tier eurodance groups in Europe. RIP to that group and the other passengers on that fateful flight.

    • @seppiluthold5014
      @seppiluthold5014 Před 3 lety +3

      Or because of a noise ordinance. Likelihood is if they used runway 14 they would have landed safely.

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle4723 Před 4 lety +3

    Once again a fantastic video account of the crash, RIP all those who perished.
    Staggering that such an experienced pilot could make such mistakes, no doubt his co pilot was too intimidated to make any comment about the approach.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

  • @ardhiutama8426
    @ardhiutama8426 Před 3 lety +10

    Aside from the pilot idiocy, imagine if there's no noise law; the incident can be prevented. This noise law is so weird,, i mean that's "the airport", so what do you expect from that? Electric plane without a noise??? 🤦‍♂️

    • @MovieMakingMan
      @MovieMakingMan Před 2 lety +1

      When I was a teenager I complained about an Air Force base a few miles from our house. They had hot shot pilots breaking the sound barrier and causing sonic booms that would almost break the glass in our house. My complaints worked. The Air Force stopped their reckless pilots from exceeding the sound barrier over residential areas. But the noise from an airplane landing is nothing compared to a sonic boom. There definitely should have been an exemption to that law. Safety should always be the number one consideration.
      I know commercial aircraft are a lot quieter than jets breaking the sound barrier but they are still loud. Airports should be built miles from populated areas. And residential areas should not be allowed to be built next to airports. I see a lot of runways butted up against neighborhoods. That’s a disaster waiting to happen.
      The well being of people should always trump capitalistic greed.

  • @tverhalen935
    @tverhalen935 Před 4 lety +2

    Nearing 1mil, congrats, love you’re videos, it’s like the Smithsonian channel plus amazing

  • @ArtiicXD
    @ArtiicXD Před 4 lety

    A great channel, close to a Million, congrats in advance!

  • @eriksbahnwelt143
    @eriksbahnwelt143 Před 4 lety +4

    My uncle (the brother from my father) dies in this plane crash😢

    • @anthonygonzalez6148
      @anthonygonzalez6148 Před 4 lety +1

      Erik's Bahnwelt i’m very sorry to hear that but don’t worry they’re in a better place they’re in heaven! They send it to the heavens and they arrived don’t worry one day you’ll meet them there
      Also when did the plane crash took place

    • @NCTRX
      @NCTRX Před 3 lety

      @@anthonygonzalez6148 are you really sure they're in heaven or in Hell we don't know what sin does his uncle does

    • @zeldie2375
      @zeldie2375 Před 3 lety

      @@NCTRX haha very funny asshole

  • @SwissAvgeek
    @SwissAvgeek Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you for making this one, tfc.Very sad to see what that pilot did in the past and still flew until the crash :/
    Btw at 11:22, Lugano is in Switzerland, located close to the Swiss border. I wouldn't say it's exactly close to Aosta, it's closer to Milan, but it's not a big deal.
    Great video, keep them up.

  • @californiadreaming9216
    @californiadreaming9216 Před 2 lety +5

    TFC has done a good job of revealing this Captain's deficiencies.
    Does anyone else besides me think that discontinuing a safer, more established ILS runway...at night...in the mountains...with bad weather...because of alleged noise issues...was a seriously f**king bad idea?!? This airport should have eaten 50% of the blame for this occurrence.

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ATC also took the blame
      Due to bad weather and lack of ILS, the runway 28 can’t be used but probably a learner(At that time) fail to notice it.

  • @kenbellchambers4577
    @kenbellchambers4577 Před 4 lety

    Great graphics. love the shot behind and above the tail, and the night shots of the runway and buildings, Excellent work.

  • @cgejoseph4439
    @cgejoseph4439 Před 4 lety +1

    Love these videos

  • @DarkFilmDirector
    @DarkFilmDirector Před 3 lety +5

    The safety investigation made no mention of the unnecessarily bureaucratic law that forced the pilots to alter their entire plan to a poorly equipped runway in inclement weather conditions only shortly before landing?

  • @chronobreak5123
    @chronobreak5123 Před 4 lety +5

    I love the sound of the wind in the beginning of your videos when the plane's waiting to be boarded

  • @selena-vh5iz
    @selena-vh5iz Před 4 lety +2

    Love ur channel...glad i found it ... amazingly animated n clarified many things...keep making these kinds of vedios...love from india

  • @spitfiremkiv339
    @spitfiremkiv339 Před 4 lety +1

    Your videos are very awesome! You're very close to 1 Million subscribers and you deserve much more!! Congratulations in advance.

  • @SJ-cc2il
    @SJ-cc2il Před 4 lety +39

    I want to know more about the group of 21 who missed the flight. I wonder if it was for some silly reason, like a late bus or a forgotten passport...

    • @Bravo-Too-Much
      @Bravo-Too-Much Před 3 lety +20

      I missed the flight because I was in another country and never bought a ticket for this flight.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor Před 3 lety +2

      @@Bravo-Too-Much A guy is used to know missed a crash because a business partner who had seen him off at the airport suggested he take a later flight and the should have a drink and chat at the airport bar. The crash, btw, was due to poor cockpit ressource management (captain is the boss, and copilot shut up) and poor flight instrument maintenance.

    • @Jesus-do1wl
      @Jesus-do1wl Před 2 lety

      Our girl Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane 😢
      czcams.com/video/r4qqBAkyQps/video.html

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@PeterNGloorIn the final report, ATC did contribute to the incident.
      “An inexperienced air traffic controller was alone in the control tower. A more experienced controller might have allowed the flight to land on runway 14 because of the poor weather conditions.”

  • @SuccessforLifester
    @SuccessforLifester Před 4 lety +7

    You should include details about what happened to the band ppl since you mentioned about them in the beginning

    • @SuccessforLifester
      @SuccessforLifester Před 4 lety +3

      @Kathrin Schwarzbach Yeah I researched a bit after this video.

  • @hiraasif4227
    @hiraasif4227 Před 4 lety +4

    Admire your work!
    Keep it up dude!
    And also RIP to all those people who lost their precious lives!

    • @hiraasif4227
      @hiraasif4227 Před 4 lety

      Also the Airbus A320 which crashed in Karachi report has been out!!
      Do make an updated video on that.

    • @ILoveNumbers_MarioFan
      @ILoveNumbers_MarioFan Před 4 lety

      @@hiraasif4227 Those videos were uploaded before this video.

    • @hiraasif4227
      @hiraasif4227 Před 4 lety

      @@ILoveNumbers_MarioFan Ok Thanks will check that out!

  • @arabicboi
    @arabicboi Před 4 lety +1

    Just 17K subs away from the big milestone of 1mil subs!! Im suporting you dude. Anyways this was a nice recreation

  • @tohlmann1969
    @tohlmann1969 Před 4 lety +40

    RIP Melanie Thornton....

    • @sikkepossu
      @sikkepossu Před 4 lety +14

      Indeed. This accident has touched me the most of all airline accidents because of death of La Bouche's singer Melanie. :( I have seen La Bouche a few times afterwards and every time I thought this accident and how horrible the situation must have been for her and of course for all the other passengers and crew too. Very sad incident. :'(

    • @johnwedgbury6817
      @johnwedgbury6817 Před 4 lety +18

      RIP all victims

    • @sebby324
      @sebby324 Před 4 lety +1

      RIP all involved

    • @erikalulea3608
      @erikalulea3608 Před 4 lety +1

      Why only her. She is no better then the other passengers that died.

    • @erikalulea3608
      @erikalulea3608 Před 4 lety +1

      @@johnwedgbury6817 exactly

  • @vipahman
    @vipahman Před 4 lety +8

    Captain Klutz! RIP passengers.

  • @tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347

    Awesome re- creation . Thanks for posting.

  • @ThatGuy-ob2yw
    @ThatGuy-ob2yw Před 4 lety +2

    Awesome video! As a student pilot, these are always interesting to watch to see what can really happen due to decision errors and communication mishaps. Incredible work on how you utilize flight sim as a visual guide. Also, what’s the intro song? I like the piano with the violins! Lol

  • @flybywire5866
    @flybywire5866 Před 4 lety +7

    Another perfectly preventable crash of a plane which was in perfect working order.
    I wonder a bit how this captain became captain with such lapses in performance.

    •  Před 3 lety

      He knew someone.

  • @sisu4134
    @sisu4134 Před 4 lety +5

    Love your videos! No matter what I'm watching, anytime a notification from your channel pops up, I instantly switch to watch your new one 😊 thanks for all your hard work!

  • @ILoveNumbers_MarioFan
    @ILoveNumbers_MarioFan Před 4 lety +2

    TheFlightChannel, you are at almost 1 million subscribers! Keep it up!

  • @slow-living_03
    @slow-living_03 Před 4 lety +1

    Everytime I watched a video on ur channel I have no idea if I should like or not. However, ur animation is great as always!

  • @ahmedzahir712
    @ahmedzahir712 Před 4 lety +18

    Let's hit 1 milion!this is my favourite aviation channel❤🛩🛩🛩🛩

  • @AsharHussain-Piano
    @AsharHussain-Piano Před 4 lety +26

    You put so much hour for us!!
    The animation stuff
    Editing
    Background voice!!
    Thankyou so much!!❤️❤️❤️

    • @AnkurThakurDelhi
      @AnkurThakurDelhi Před 4 lety +3

      The only thing that I think was not good is the choice of Font. It makes it difficult to read it.
      Just a suggestion.

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you, TFC, for another incredibly well put together and well done educational show. Hard to believe 2001 was nearly 20 years ago now. For me, 9/11 still frequently feels like yesterday. In a way, I'm rather glad you've never done a recreation of 9/11. I lost friends. It will probably always be very painful for me and for many, not only here in the US, but worldwide. The Towers were an international centre. People from all over the world came to work there.
    BTW, thank you also for always putting the time on a 24 hour clock. My dad is retired Navy, and everything in our house was run on military time. It was years before I even knew what a 12 hour clock was, and to this day, they still confuse the heck outta me! When I worked in medicine, we used military time in the hospital, and I was much more comfortable with it. So, thanks again!

    • @suestoons
      @suestoons Před 4 lety

      Just FYI, Aviation runs on a 24-hour clock. Not only that but all of aviation runs on the *same* 24-hour clock Universal Time, [UTC] or Greenwich Mean Time [GMT] aka Zulu.
      So 23:59 UTC is the same in central Canada where it might actually be 6 p.m. [1800] local or in London where it would be one minute before midnight local time.
      This way no one flying has to do mental gymnastics with time zones or whether it is daylight savings time or not. If we depart at 1300 for a 4 hour flight, our ETA [estimated time of arrival] is 1700 whether we're flying straight north and remaining in the same time zone or flying straight west and crossing two or three time zones that may or may not be utilizing daylight savings time.

    • @ecclestonsangel
      @ecclestonsangel Před 4 lety +1

      @@suestoons thank you!😊 Yes, my dad specialized in Naval aviation, so that's why I was taught a 24 hr. clock. I have a lot of friends all over the world, and a lot of them don't use daylight saving time. Using military time just makes my life easier. To this day, 12 hour clocks still confuse me!😅

  • @ankgamer7959
    @ankgamer7959 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video! Sorry for being late

  • @kimberlymason7080
    @kimberlymason7080 Před 4 lety +4

    yet, he is given constant direction and lecturing the co pilot - geeeeez

  • @xyechenn
    @xyechenn Před 4 lety +7

    Loving these videos sad as they are. Keep it up thanks!

  • @PeterNGloor
    @PeterNGloor Před 3 lety +1

    This runway got ILS pretty soon after the crash. A local politician escaped the crash unhurt with her friend as they had moved to the very rear of the cabin due to excessive noise by the folks sitting in the front. They got up from their seats, stumbled thru the woods, walked to a nearby village, went into the restaurant, and ordered coffee. That's cool behaviour.

  • @leomationsyt8112
    @leomationsyt8112 Před 4 lety +2

    Yay I love you vids so realistic they are soooooo good 👍

  • @EastKeyIndustrial
    @EastKeyIndustrial Před 4 lety +9

    it's amazing that they just asked them to land on a closed runway with less precise technology at night just over noise ... Is noise more important than safety ?

    • @suestoons
      @suestoons Před 4 lety +2

      - The runway wasn't closed.
      - The pilot could have refused.
      - Was the pilot's pride, lack of planning and incompetence more important than the safety of his passengers?

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety +1

      @@suestoons Indeed. The terms to refuse/to deviate are interchangeable here.

  • @andyaim4764
    @andyaim4764 Před 4 lety +28

    We all have this image of ultra professional pilots.... then after disasters like this and the recent PIA crash you realise a percentage of these pilots shouldn’t be flying!!!

    • @BrettonFerguson
      @BrettonFerguson Před 3 lety +2

      We also have this image of high tech airports with modern equipment and the best technology... then after disasters like this you realize the airports are making pilots land visual only in a snowstorm at night in the mountains, instead of on the runway with sophisticated equipment in because of “noise restrictions.”

  • @ZeryusXD
    @ZeryusXD Před 4 lety

    Bro, you're almost close to 1 mill subs!

  • @godsbelovedchild1810
    @godsbelovedchild1810 Před 4 lety

    You make my Fridays thanks buddy

  • @theravedaddy
    @theravedaddy Před 4 lety +32

    Well at least the BANG! Didnt upset the crybabies who bought houses next to an airport

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor Před 3 lety

      the runway restriction was not because of these house owners but by Germany north of the border. A political thing.

    • @Robocopnik
      @Robocopnik Před 3 lety

      You're a substandard waste of a life.

  • @Miss-cg4fr
    @Miss-cg4fr Před 4 lety +3

    What is scary about this, is the fact the Captain had made so many mistakes prior, had endangered the lives of so many people, yet his casual arrogance and incompetence finally caught up with him. It's unfortunate those souls were lost on board. It just goes to show how you never really know the background of a pilot when you get on board. Horrific loss. Xx

  • @Morrie1160
    @Morrie1160 Před 4 lety +1

    Keep up this GOOD content bro

  • @peterkoln2837
    @peterkoln2837 Před 2 lety

    Another superb presentation. Thanks very much!

  • @wandery2k
    @wandery2k Před 4 lety +16

    Copilots, Please do not let your Pilot In Command kill you.
    Thank you.

  • @willm491
    @willm491 Před 4 lety +17

    15th to comment, even before watching i know ts a great video with amazing graphics thanks for the great work man❤

  • @hubisossxd2470
    @hubisossxd2470 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice vid :) RIP for this people who died in A crash

  • @mgsaviation9292
    @mgsaviation9292 Před 4 lety

    Damn🤯 loved the new thumbnail style ❤😍

  • @NakulDalakoti
    @NakulDalakoti Před 4 lety +10

    If that Captain had a trouble obtaining certification for "complex" MD-80. I wonder how he would've fared in certification process for A320 family.

    • @apogaeum4313
      @apogaeum4313 Před 4 lety +1

      Never ever. He was visual flight based and didn't appreciate IR. Good man for single engine or twins in daylight ops.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před 3 lety +1

      @@apogaeum4313 Well, what was it he did to that little SAAB 340??
      He was NOT a good man in any way.

    • @mustardstain504d6
      @mustardstain504d6 Před 3 lety +1

      The Mad Dog is more complex to fly than the Scarebus. The Mad Dogs actually is loved by it's aircrews and have outstanding flight characteristics compared to the Airbus. . I am rated on the MD80. 737 and 777. I can't post pictures or I'd show you the inside of the Airbus. I don't care for them personally and the controls don't provide feedback like the Boeing/ Mc Donnell-Douglas aircraft.

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band Před 4 lety +13

    "Do we have ground contact?"
    "No, but we will in a few minutes."

  • @flightsimulatoraddict9102

    I love these videos thank you!!!

  • @JC-fo7lm
    @JC-fo7lm Před 3 lety +1

    Im so addicted to this channel.