How a Wrong Turn Caused this Plane to Crash in South Korea | Air China Flight 129
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- Find out why the Boeing 767 operating Air China Flight 129 crashed into a hill near Busan, South Korea while performing a circling approach.
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This was really good. I appreciated the inclusion of the map showing what their approach path should have been and then what it turned out to be. Would be great to include that in future reports! Thanks again. Outstanding
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Yes, that map showing the path the plane took, definitely helped to explain why the circle approach the pilots carried out, resulted in the crash.
really help to understand
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The videos are great though still
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That digital mapping of route is really helpful to understand the nature of maneuvers, thanks.
Also, I think setting up 700 feet of MDA in a mountainous region with *low visibility* is pretty much inviting a disaster to happen
Still waiting for JAL 123 recreation
Sounds like a crappy place to have put an airport in the first place.
@@ronjones-6977 Indeed
@@ronjones-6977 there very few, if any places, in the Busan area to do so. This is also the reason an artificial island was made for Incheon.
@@kimchipig So you agree.
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Tanah Merah I Guess you live in Singapore cause Tanah Merah is in Singapore
There’s something so morbidly strange seeing the number of casualties equal the flight number. :/
Yeah, what a coincidence! :(
I thought the same thing too. :( It was a secret message i guess.
Oh wait,what a coincidence
It is, a coincidence
Ikr, a coincidence
I'll be honest. This is the one crash never knew happened
Same , it happened before i was even born lol
@@ezan3363 lol
Chinese censorship is so intense even South Koreans don't know this.
@@tedyi8588 wow lol
Ted Yi no, information about this accident is abundant, and the Mayday series covers this accident in one episode.
Pilots should realize that the most carefully laid plans for approach and landing are worthless if an in flight destination, runway, or landing pattern change occurs. With such a a change, pilots need to reconsult their charts, and replan their approach. Here, for instance, the pilot even remarked about the mountains to the north of the airport. But I didn't see or hear any reference to terrain height or minimum altitudes. It was grossly negligent flying that caused this accident.
The airport on vid makes all the plans worthless as the winds change time by time Korean pilots hate that place. I personally understand the Chinese pilots.
And this in spite of aviation charts having the topography beautifully depicted in color, not as much elevation detail as a USGS topographical map with 40 ft contour lines, but you definitely know where the mountains are and how high.
@@hshs5756 Classic example of this: The 1942 crash that killed actress Carol Lombard. Plane was scheduled to land at Las Vegas, then depart for Burbank, CA. Pilots had plotted course direct from Las Vegas airport to Burbank. In flight change due to weather caused plane to land at alternate North Las Vegas airport just a couple miles from the Las Vegas airport. On departure, they just headed off on the compass heading as originally planned. Only, that flew them directly into Mount Patosi. They didn't recalculate for the new departure point. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
Vegas George wow😭
@@georgeroberts442 My reaction was the same as Bart Madness.... Wow!
It’s weird how these videos are addictive (well in my opinion anyway), they are quite sad to watch.
As always an amazing video
Also weird to think that the word “pull up” could lead to many bad things.
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Something I won't deliberately want to but certainly will agree with you on this. This is kinda addictive channel. Video Editing top notch, well explained chronological order of events, soothing sound makes all its videos likeable.
Communication wasn't a problem for anyone on the flight deck except the Captain...he was told forcefully to watch his altitude, to turn quickly to avoid terrain ahead, to initiate a go around and to watch for terrain just prior to impact. His subordinates in the cockpit did everything they could do except knock him out and assume control of the airplane. Very ironic he's the only survivor among the flight crew.
Well as a f/o you don't have to knock out the cap to take the controls, it's a matter of having the balls to say MY CONTROLS without asking putting your hand on the throttle and pull up, but ofc it's easier saying it than doing it, that's why we have so much better crm now days because of accidents like this.
@@Diego38019 I don't think the captain would have given up the controls with just a verbal request
@@MrCrystalcranium Exactly, that's why you need the balls to take them without asking and saying My controls so the captain knows whats happening but you just take them, that's what they teach you on CRM in airlines now days, if you warn the captain and you consider the plane at risk you have every right to take the controls from him without asking
Diego Andres Chinese culture is one of hierarchy. It’s very hard to go against your higher ups. This is just one of many flights where deference to superiors cost innocent lives.
Trisha Yamada well that also happened on Korean air accident where captain did extreme maneuvers on a 747 while the FO sits there doing nothing
Conclusion: some part of Asian culture (the “boss are always correct” part) kills.
The FO said go around, another captain with an ego.
label1877 and yet he got to survive and presumably the FO didnt...
@@DeepRedBlue
Life isn't always fair.
Young, inexperienced and poorly trained pilots, poorly trained controllers and lack of modern safety equipment were the contributing factors. There have been many many cases where first officers had requested for a go around but the arrogant captain had disregarded the advice leading to a crash. I do not know when the Captains will ever correct themselves. A beautifully presented video. I normally view your videos immediately after it is downloaded by you. This time it was quite late at night in India when it was downloaded and after seeing the video now in the morning I am sending my appreciation of a nicely presented video.
@@DeepRedBlue CAPTAIN and two flight attendants survived, all FOs and the rest of the flight attendants died.
@@DeepRedBlue ikr horrible ! I was like fo didn’t but the captain did survive like what!
129 people died on flight 129....the universe can have a cruel sense of humor sometimes.
Actually, one person died in hospital. But this was not counted.
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Circling approach SOP: keep the runway in sight. If lose sight of runway do immediate go around and try again. Sounds pretty safe & straightforward.
So sad that Captain survived and first officer died 💔 he was right 😢.I am not saying that Captain should have died instead of co pilot but Captain didn't listened to copilot 😔☹️
With each video ending I always think of the horror for the pilots and some passengers when they realize crash is unavoidable.
Me too!!
Excellent video. Loved the graphics to show the plane's proposed landing route. Thanks.
This is much better than the discover channel version!
Anytime I stumble across an aviation event video, before I view it, I always come here hoping TFC has already covered it.
I also like to watch blancolirio and VASAviation. The latter has ATC communications on various interesting incidents, although not accidents.
@@vernicethompson4825 I subscribe to Blancolirio (white lily) but not familiar with VAS. I'll check it out.
@@walmartdog1142 It's great for the ATC conversations. They have maps but rarely photos. Some of the conversations are funny, and others will keep you tensed up until the end. So, very enjoyable.
Thank you for putting this up! I remember back in China, we were comprehensively blocked from obtaining these “inappropriate” information. So glad I escaped from the modern gulag.
Back to the old formula I see with no voice. This is what makes your channel unique, the atmosphere you create with only text and sound. Love it!!
The light music is also enjoyable. Not too much or too loud.
Road to 1 million subscribers!
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I thought this was the last comment
Max Aviation w h a t
4 enters is enough
This is the only video of flight 129 that I actully understand what happened, so great jub TFC!
This is sad, RIP to those who lost their lives. Great work by the way, your videos are always informative👌
Thanks, your usual high standard, we need to step back and realise just how good a production this is, I have got used to how good it is.
Plenty of blame to spread around , Pilots, the controllers, the old design ground proximity, training proceedures etc.
Yet another litany of errors that could have been corrected with a go around.
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Kunta Kinte please tell me you are joking
[not a pilot] My understanding is that in at least US training "go around" commanded by the pilot monitoring or ATC results in immediate initiation of GA by the pilot flying and "why" is asked afterward establishing the GA profile.
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Regardless of who's fault it was or who deserved most of the blame it was a miracle that anyone survived. Nicely done as always and the graph with the flight pattern was an excellent addition. Thank you tfc for your work.
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When living in Hong Kong in the late 1980's, CAAC was known by the locals as "Chinese Airlines Always Crash".
bruh
There’s also a meme floating around joking about China Airlines taking a bath(CAL605, which overran the runway in bad weather :P
Also rip brand new 747-400 that was involved
ahahahaa so true
EWA Thoughts ye most of the crashes are in the 80s and 70s
CAAC used airbus or boeing to fly to europe or usa but soviet planes for east europe and russia
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Personally im tired of seeing ATC changing runways mid flight or just before landings when the work load for pilots has increased and the stress levels are high. Flying is hard enough lets just add a new run way to the heavy worj load. SMH
Just do your job and everything's fine.
its all about COMMUNICATION. winds shift. you dont want to be landing on a short runway with a 30 knot tail wind. Go round and reposition. 5 minutes late or dead forever
Yea, you are right. They should just overshoot the original runway because of tailwind. That's much easier. 🙄
Imagine being the pilot who made a mistake and was one of the 37 survivors... the guilt he must’ve felt man...
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Funny they mentioned the GPWS I was expecting to hear “TOO LOW TERRAIN, PULL UP WOOP WOOP”
If that case, at least disaster can been avoid.
I'd like to know the disciplinary actions the captain received for this.
nothing if he was a CCP member
Death
@@smartjoe5258 You're probably correct about that CCP membership
Midland Reporter-Telegram Article
China Defends Pilot of Crashed Jet
Published 7:00 pm CDT, Saturday, April 20, 2002
BEIJING (AP) _ The pilot of a Chinese airliner that crashed in South Korea with 166 people on board was well-trained and had over 6,000 hours of experience flying Boeing 767s, Chinese state media said Sunday.
The 31-year-old pilot, Wu Xinlu, was among 38 people to survive the crash Monday near Busan, South Korea's second largest city. The defense of him in Chinese media follows suggestions from South Korean officials that human error was to blame.
South Korean authorities have banned Wu from leaving the country pending investigation and have threatened to prosecute him if he is found responsible. At least 122 people were killed and six are listed as missing. Wu was hospitalized with a minor brain hemorrhage.
In lengthy reports published in state newspapers, China's government-run Xinhua News Agency described Wu as a proficient and conscientious flier who aced tests.
Whatever disciplinary taken towards him, he also had to live with guilt that if he had listened to the First Officer's statement to abort the landing and go around, then he would not have killed all of those passengers who didn't survive.
Kylie Pechler wait he survived?
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Kunta Kinte stop you dumbass
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A circling approach requires the maintenance of visual contact with the runway once the ILS is terminated (i.e. the begining of circling!)
I hate it when the controller changes things at the last moment. You know what is coming.
There's an old army expression;
Order.
Counter-order.
Disorder!
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Gimheae INT(RKPK)L is very dangerous on approach it includes 180 dgree turn on final approach to RW18L/R
Ted Yi not as hard as Kai Tak.
@@mykimouse5420 How about you trying that 180 dgree turn at 1000ft on the sim BTW when the aircrafts land at RW18 it is because there are hard winds form south. So it is very challenging.
Look I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just making another suggestion. Ok? Do you understand? If not,you can get an interpreter to help you.
Educational Tactics Of Ole Talk about making yourself look like a bigger ass 😒
Chandelier C wtf are you talking about?
Back in April of 2002, airline passengers were probably more worried about something else.
SARS??
Samuel Joseph Chen Yucong that and, oh, I don't know, A REPEAT OF 9/11?
Oh like CA129 Was in 2002, then 911 in 2001, 1 year after another
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Thank you.
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Best just to leave it be, mate. Thanks anyway.
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Imagine how many before this got very close to the mountan but didn't hit. We will never know.
Excellent point.
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Kunta Kinte stop now
Thank you so much for posting this! Also y the new music? I rlly loved the old one
Really enjoyed the quality of this video, fantastic job 👍🏽
Over and over again: This is what happened when pilots stopped flying the plane. They turn knobs, dials and an autopilot switch; but they can't fly.
Flying was 1000x as dangerous when pilots were flying the plane. Yes, In an ideal world you’d have all these systems and the manual piloting ability to fall back on.
Correct, there was a time when the lion share were former military & fighter pilots. I lived with one. The passenger yacht does not convey the experience leading to proper reaction when something goes horribly wrong.
No decent pilot has ever "stopped flying the plane". Every competent commercial pilot is extensively trained on flying even in the complete failure of all automated systems. Controlled flights into terrain still happened before widespread automation, with aircraft under the command of pilots who had spent their whole careers flying aircraft manually.
This incident is not "what happened when pilots stopped flying the plane", this is a result of poor training and human error, and would _still_ have been poor training and human error regardless of whether the aircraft had automated systems or not.
@@Anonymous551656 They were looking for the runway in the fog. They should've used their instruments and listened to the ATC
Here is another case of an airport that is located in an area that makes landing more difficult based on certain conditions.....of course, it would cost a lot of money to build a new airport somewhere else in a more user friendly location, but given these issues why not consider at some point......just saying....
Exactly. Since they're spreading the blame around........let's give some to the original mistake. Location of the airport.
A good research topic might be to find out how much longer the runway needs to be to allow for an 'as safe' down-wind landing, and compare this additional planning and cost with placing an airport at a different location. Perhaps just another thousand feet would allow for down-wind landings to be just as safe. Or maybe down-wind landings pose additional risks other than just the length of the runway, and if so, what are they? This crash reminds me a little bit (in terms of the lack of overall experience and training inside the cockpit) with the February 2009 crash of Continental (Colgan Air) Flight 3407 near Buffalo. czcams.com/video/ST6vs4JXGV4/video.html - j q t -
I'm always impressed with the video that is created to illustrate the text. Very skillful use of good software! I'm also impressed by the factual reports.
These videos keep getting better and better
Wow, it's realistic dude!!!!
Fun Fact, I’m literally on my “home city” airport [Miami] waiting to board the plane to Boston to go to Wyoming.
Edit: I’ve arrived in Salt Lake City, will be driving to Wyoming tomorrow
Well. Have fun then xD
And safe flight!
Lmao good luck bro
Some1 👍 Have a safe flight 👍
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Have good flight
Awesome vid, love your content
Plane to Busan
Great video btw, I can't imagine how many hours you must put into these videos.
My mom was originally scheduled to fly on that flight (business trip, original plan was Shanghai-Busan with stopover in Busan with Air China) but changed to another flight(which instead of connecting to CA129 at PEK, she now change flights at Seoul) a few days before departure since she was unsure. She didn’t told anyone, which freaked my grandparents out until they learned that she was on another flight.
Little did she know at the time, that move saved her life and her unborn child aka. me or otherwise she would end up in the business class of that 767, which only few survived in that section
Moral of the story: Trust your mind and don’t fly on business class (the 2nd one is a joke) :)
Also, the captain of CA129 now runs a flight sim store in Beijing downtown, and he is the “instructor” of the 737-800 flight sim
I think I posted this somewhere else a long time ago and later accidentally deleted, so...
Oh and one small mistake, PEK terminal 3 (the terminal with gold roof in the background) was not existent in 2002...:)
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Nice Job! This video is truly one of the most high-quality videos for you! ;) It was also funny how the KAIB mentioned no blame of the controllers in their final report! Lol.
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The captain should never be allowed in a cockpit, again.
On the contrary. He would make an excellent instructor to show what not to do in a similar situation.
Great video! The amount of effort is amazing!
Your videos are legendary mate
129 people died, flight number was 129, what a coincidence!
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Even a news channel does not provide with such details. Really kudos to TFC amazing editing and detials.really loved watching it.
Amazingly done as usual!
Always well done. Handled with dignity and to inform (I do miss the melodic sounds of your original background music being throughout)
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I love this channel. Such great work.
Very well done, as always!
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you are putting a lot of videos with correct explanation.
Thanks for the visually-informative report!
I love this video :D keep it up
As usual great recreation of the accident by FC. A significant observation was that the two pilots hadn't done an approach from the mountain side. Flying is all about skill, knowledge, training and most importantly experience. Only comprehensive training ( including simulation) involving all aspects of flight situations can prepare a pilot for an incident of this nature. I suppose ATC could have routinely warned them about the hazards of the revised runway approach as it is not possible for the pilots to consult their charts at such a critical juncture.
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