Determine HOLDING ENTRIES in under 10 SECONDS PART 2 explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and flightstudents, welcome back to my channel. Today's video is a very important one in regards on how to establish holding entries. With the fastest and most fail safe technique, using your thumb and a compass rose/heading indicator.
I´ll show you how to extract the important outbound course for this easy technique and then how to use your thumb and place it accordingly onto your heading indicator.
Important things to remember whilst using this technique. Imagine that you're tracking towards the navigational aid you should hold over. Meaning the numbers you read out at the top of your heading indicator is the heading you're flying towards the fix. Draw an imaginary line from the center of the compass rose to that heading. Now if its a standard holding use your RIGHT thumb, as you are requested to perform RIGHT turns. So place your RIGHT thumb, at at 90 degree angle of your current heading, for example 200°, your thumb should be at 290°, then move your thumb upwards, so that you cover 20 degrees, so the bottom of your thumb is on the 290° line, and the top is at 270°, draw a line across and through the center of the rose, so you end up at 090° (-180 degrees). You know have divided you compass rose into three sectors. Memorize: Above your thumb is a teardrop entry , opposite your thumb is a parallel entry, and below your thumb is a direct entry. Now place your outbound course into your compass rose, for example 300°, check which sector its in, Teardrop sector, and that's your entry procedure for that holding.
Memorize:
RIGHT turns - RIGHT thumb
LEFT turns - LEFT thumb
90 degrees plus ( if you have to perform RIGHT turns)
90 degrees minus ( if you have to perform LEFT turns)
Cover 20 degrees with your thumb, and draw imaginary line.
ABOVE thumb - TEARDROP entry
OPPOSITE thumb - PARALLEL entry
BELOW thumb - DIRECT entry
Place OUTBOUND COURSE into the compass rose and check which sector its in!
Its doesn't get any faster than that!!!
STORY:
During my screening assessment in the simulator, I often used this technique to quickly determine the entry holding, as flying a holding is a minimum requirement for many airline screenings. As you can "use" the examiner next to you as an autopilot for calculations etc. and handed over the controls, pointed my thumb at the heading indicator, and called out the entry procedure in under 10 seconds and regained control. Very often the examiner was blown away how fast I was able to determine the holding entry, that I didn't even had to fly the holding, cause I gave him the impression, "This guy knows his stuff".
Use the examples at the end to train this technique! Don´t forget to hit pause, immediately after the example is shown!
Thanks for watching, all the best your "Captain" Joe
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I had an old Eastern Airlines captain in 1986 tell me one thing that makes it simple. You're going to make the shortest turn to the outbound heading. Once you determine that, you can then know exactly which entry to use. It works on right and left hand turns. It is far simpler than the video. I've used it for over 32 years with a major airline. This is the technique that should always be taught.
Can you explain this more @Greg
I am just learning it is hard for me lol but I just know all is possible thanks for that tip even though I have no idea YET what you're talking about exactly lol
Would be so curious to know more about this idea Greg
If you could elaborate your technique with an example Greg, all the rookies would appreciate it
I jump in here because Greg seems silent. I was taught the same thing a long time ago. When you cross the fix, you choose an entry that results in the least amount of heading change from your current heading. The difficulty with this system is it's not an exact match with the 70 / 110 / 180 zones that are common now. You'll end up with a more parallel entries. An examiner may or may not bust you for it.
Most pilots i know will mentally overlay the holding pattern on the DG, using the airplane center as the VOR.
The inbound course goes on the radial assigned. Then draw your racetrack on the right or left side based on the ATC instruction. Print out the DG picture the poster gave you and try drawing some.
With a few hours practice you can just glance at your DG and immediately "see" the racetrack and know the best way to enter it. You will be right 99% of the time and really close the other 1%.
Joe: it doesn’t get any easier than that .
My brain 🧠: oh no 🤦♂️.
yes... I still don't understand.
Had me really confused how it was a teardrop entry at 5:00 until I realized the graphic was drawn for right turns not left turns lol, great video and a great quick little rule I might find myself using on my checkride in 2 days.
Agree just realised that as well
I use a similar technique using three fingers (thumb, index, middle). Right thumb for right hand turns and opposite for left hand turns still apply.
Now the finger assignment is as follows:
LIMIT FINGERS
Thumb = parallel entry limit
Middle finger = tear drop entry limit
Reference finger = index finger = current hdg
Index -> Thumb = Parallel Entry
Index -> Middle = Tear Drop
Outside any of them = Direct
This is more of a numbers game and the hand technique is more of a reminder but the hands greatly help when you are just starting. This process involves a step by step elimination and after a few repeats, this can be done mentally which helps in flight.
In this example we will assume that the radial to hold is R020 and we are flying at a heading of 360. Standard hold.
1. Spread out the three fingers.
2. Identify your current HDG and associate it with your index finger. In this example we are heading 360
3. Now that you have your index as your HDG, think of your index finger as a heading indicator and find which side of the HI does the radial to hold lie. R020 lies on the right side of 360
4. Eliminate the impossible entry / finger. In this example, since you need the radial to hold on a parallel entry to be on the left side, eliminate that entry / finger specifically the thumb in this situation. This leaves us with two options, either it's a tear drop entry or a direct entry.
5. Look at the gap of the two remaining fingers. The index-middle has a smaller gap compared to the index-thumb gap.
6. Add or subtract the gap (70° for small, 110° for big), this will be the assigned number for the limiting finger. How do you know when to add or subtract? If going right you add, going left you subtract. Just like the HDG indicator. In this example 360 + 70 will be 070
7. Evaluate. If it falls at the index to the limiting finger, then it is the associated entry. If not, then it is direct. It is never the eliminated entry. In this example, 020 is between 360 and 070 so the appropriate entry will be tear drop.
So if you get used to it, it will be as follows:
1. Find hdg
2. Find which side is the radial to hold.
3. Find the limit hdg
4. Check if radial to hold falls in the gap.
Yes = associated entry
No = Direct
Hope this helps. Sorry for the long wall of text. This is my first time on sharing my techniques on the internet.
I can’t believe people like you make videos like this for free! Thank you so much brother. I’m planing to take my Ira in 3 weeks. This makes it so much easier
Image for a left-hand holding (explanation starting at 05:00) is apparently wrong - it pictures right-hand holding with inbound track of 030. Calculation for teardrop is correct, but it does not make sense when you look at the picture.
Yeah I knew something was off there. The diagram is depicting right turns. The fix should be located just prior to a left turn in that particular scenario.
So glad I wasn't the only one thinking that!
I knew it, thanks for confirming.
bziiuuum I had to get out a pen and paper to make sure I wasn’t going crazy. Glad others noticed too.
Ya, i noticed that too...
Being a Non Aviator, this video went over my head. Yeh I did get the Tear Drop, Direct and Parallel, what they mean, No Idea. However, a great insight on what goes behind that closed door we passengers see. Keep em coming.
don't use 121.5 as a communications frequency. that would help.
great video again! Thanks.
Cargospotter Wow its actually you lol
Just another great video and tutorial mate, love it! This was always my weakness but with your help i can now confidently do it!! Thanks mate.
I am currently an instrument rating student. Very close to my checkride.
I have tried, Cpt. Joe, the information on books, my own ways and other videos information on how to figure out the holding entry en route fast and correct, especially when close to the fix, but none of those options have worked well for me.
The method in this video solved my issues, and BAM!!!
Now I can figure it out fast, correct and easy, even without placing my finger on the HI.
I recommend and will share this video with other pilot students.
I appreciate it.
IFR rated private pilot for 30 years and this is one of the best descriptions I have ever heard, well done!
*this is one of the things that worries me the most, but with all the videos I’m feeling a lot more comfortable now* :)) thanks Joe!
You are the best Joe, we pilots who already know these things we enjoy watching videos like this,you are magnificent explaining aviation topics and procedures ,keep doing it , my regards to you from Colombia.
Congratulations on hitting 500k subscribers!!
It's climbing past 700k now. Captain Joe rocks!
@@apinat31150 OMG yesterday it was 700k n now is 109k imagine after one month 😕
And now, 1 million!
Come and see it's get 1.48 million now
Nice one @Captain Joe, I am an aviation enthusiast and your tutorials like this one is really interesting for me. I did your example holding assignments and bam less than 10 sec magic is seen !
Joe! This helped me out so much I have been struggling with holds but now I understand them you made it seem so simple! Thank you!
I REALLY appreciate the new educative style of your videos
OMG JOE! CONGRATULATIONS ON 500,000 SUBSCRIBERS! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! BEEN WITH U SINCE 150K SUBS! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. Das ist sehr gut! 😉
Hey Joe, first of all I absolutely love your videos, you're doing a fantastic work! Could you make a video about descent planning and procedures ? Greetings :)
Hey Captain Joe, I love the way you are explaining and how comprehensive are your videos! Best aviation advices! Keep it up and SKC
Congratulation for the 500K subscriber! And keep going! You're the best, our Captain Joe! ;)
Thanks Dylan! Appreciate it :)
Nice video Joe, a small thing but at 5:01 in the cargolux example the positioning of the VOR is incorrect... it is showing the hold with right turns and the animated plane needs to do a parallel entry. I don't know if that's an easy fix you to apply. 😀
I was scratching my head untill I saw the comment 🤦👍
correct, its a direct hold
He says he gonna practice left hand hold and hr did the method with left thumb but in the video animation he didn't drow it as left turn but as right
For the clearance given, the holding pattern should be on the west side of the 210 radial (not the east side as shown) and the correct entry is a teardrop as the Joe correctly stated.
@@paulklein8877 no its not correct. West side is on the left side and it says left turn. its a direct hold.
Thanks Captain Joe, getting my CFII done and this is a great refresher!
It’s a great approach to the right result. I found it also very helpful during instrument written test prep - because you can not bring other helping aids in, to use your E6B instead of the compass. You can just turn the rotating plate of the e6b to your inbound course, then do all the rest explained in this video and this way you might have a legal aid for your written Instrument test with the FAA to get the correct result.
Great tip! Thanks!
This is the first time I've seen the thumb method and been able to easily understand it! Thanks Captain Joe!
This is by far most easiest and fastest way to determine which holding entry to do. Thank you very much for this simple and fast solution. I watched quite few videos on the matter but your explanation is (at least to me) the easiest one to comprehend. I do not use printout of compass rose but simple draw it on the paper. It takes extra few seconds but is anyway by far fastest method around. Once again many thanks.
BAMB!! Great video, and great explanation. Currently studying for my instrument rating, this will be a great help! Thanks!!
Watched several of your videos, and this one made me subscribe.
This method is flawless, thanks Capt.!
Best explanation of entry procedure I’ve seen so far. Thank you soooo much!
6:56 “Cactus 1549”
*_U N A B L E_*
Great work ! At the moment I’m flying in Goodyear for my flight training and it helped me a lot.
Just Practiced the Holding Patterns Entry Sectors. Very Clear. Amazing Work Joe.
Wow, that has really help in great deal. Nobody has explain this easy like you did. Thank You!
Congrats on 500k Joe!!
That is what you call a video for aviation fans. Captain Joe please please do make more videos for sim and flight school youths, which can help them in topic like these. Much waiting for more videos like these.
I was really struggeling with this subject, thank you for explaining it well!
Thank you captain Joe! Currently an instrument student pilot and this explanation has made it so easy!!!
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nick a Well its not possible anymore... He is going to fly a 747 (Cargo)
So I'll fly next on a cargo plane; I'll just identify myself as cargo
Khalid Abdulghani lol
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Thank you Joe for another great video
Joe,
Great video man!. Would appreciate more vids towards us the STUDENTS as your experience is appreciated.
Finally,the most simplest method to understand.
Thank you Captain Joe.
And please could you do a video and explain how to do DME arch procedure.
Thank you in advance.
By far the best video to help understand Pattern entry. Thanks Joe. Yeaaahh buddy!
Studying my ATPL and you show me much more in 2 mins that my instructor in 45 mins ... Just Amazing
ATPL ground schools are shit, they don't teach you anything, only suck money out of you. The databank is the only thing that will determine if you'll succeed or not. - a fellow atpl student
Very well explained.
thanks joe for teaching us more for flight!
greetings from Bangladesh.
Watching this right before my IFR progress check! Thanks boss!
Thanks a lot Captain! Helped me a lot! Awesome videos and explanations!
Congrats for the half million subs!!
Thank you :)
Captain Joe I have a questions Have you ever flown the a330?
In two years his channel has grown almost another million.
Again a very interesting video, thank you very much for the quality content!
you are the best .thank you so much ,we used a method in avation school more than 2 decades ago ,and you have just helped me to remember it .
Fortunately captain, 20 days ago I had my Air Law Exam and I hadn't any question about holdings. I scored 93%.
I have mine in few weeks 😅
hey John any advice , next month i have the air law exam ? did u use the question bankk ? aviationexam
Subbed. Easiest explanation ever. Just started playing fsx. Just about understood Jeppesen charts. need to master this before flying big airline jets
That was.... amazing. Im a visual learner so this helps
This is awesome, so simple, thanks a lot Joe!
This is an excellent video. Clear, simple and well explained
Congratulations on 500K and above! Been with you since 96K
I'M SO HAPPY I FOUND YOUR CZcams CHANNEL CAPTAIN!!
You do really well!! Keep it up 👍👍
Thank you for this explanation, Captain Joe. It helped me a lot.
Absolutely great explanation!!!
Joe, your aviation videos are excellent. Easy to understand. In the left hand hold for DIK VOR the image depicted is for a right hand hold.
I noticed that too.
Thank you Captain! Going for a screening in an airline which loves to ask this in the sim
Thank you so much Joe! finally I got it!
Thank you so much and perfect timming, i have my IFR checkride tommorow
6:56 Cactus1549 “We’re unable. We may end up in the Hudson.”
I was just thinking that. It's ironic that he's telling them to hold. Also I don't think lga has a vor, at least not under that name
best video ever about Determine HOLDING ENTRIES. this is really the easiest way to learn.
The easiest way I have learned this method is just looking at where the plane is according to the fix. You can see whether you were going to have to parallel, teardrop or direct based on your location. No need to do math except for the written test because they may want exact heading numbers the way we use to figure out the magnetic bearing to an NDB based on a magnetic heading add the pointer.You should also remember that your initial turn inbound except for being on the radio itself should be into the holding oval which is known as the protected area.
my excitement about starting my ifr just came back!!! new follower here!
6:55 "cactus 1549" the best landing :-) . Thank you for this learning video Joe
thanks dude. doing IFR training right now and this is for sure the method I will use.
Very Nice Joe.... i am not pilot,however i am much eager to learn about aircraft and flying instrument installed in cockpit. Its very useful for me.. Good Job Captain...
Watched this video on the way to do my first multi ifr hold. Super helpful
The most useful vid for me so far. Great information and tips for cadets like me. Goood job
I have a CFIA and CFII rating of FAA. Have also flown,as instructor in Texas. Have also flown with AIR INDIA for 28 years.
I believe all are making holding to be the most difficult exercise. When it is NOT.
Joe , in your examples you never mentioned the location of your airplane w.r.t. to the fix. Without this info one CANNOT decide the holding entry procedure. All are making it a mountain out of a mole.
I really appreciate your effort. Best wishes.
Now that’s helpful towards my Flight simulator X, thanks:)
Absolutely loved it. Thanks!
congratulations for hitting 0.5 million subscribers!!..proud that I'm one among them!! Keep going captain Joe!!
This whole time I was staring at a garmin to figure out what holding pattern I should be taking. Now I know how to figure it out. Thank you
Your video is great. Love it.
You’re a lifesaver Joe!!! I’m taking my instrument rating FAA knowledge exam tomorrow. I was feeling a little uncomfortable on this material, but after seeing this tip, I’m sure I will ace these type of questions! Oh my, the timing! Thanks a bunch Joe! Also, CONGRATS on 500k subscribers!
Taking my CFII knowledge exam in 48 hour. Everything else was confusing. You saved my bacon on holds. Thank you sooooo much.
Awesome video. Nice little refresher, before I go for an interview and sim for the first time in 10years! Wish me luck. Lol. I will need it. We just don't fly raw data in the line anymore
Great detail. Thanks, Capt. Joe!
If you hold your hands out in front of your face, palms out and fingers facing the sky, your thumb line will form the 70⁰/110⁰ cuts for a left or right pattern. You have the inbound then add either the 70⁰ or 110⁰, write that down and the reciprocal forms the opposite entry limit. E.g. hold on 280 radial, left pattern = left hand up, thumb points to the right so add 70⁰ right = 350 TO forms the sector 3 and sector 1 boundary and the reciprocal (170⁰ TO) forms the inbound for the sector 2 and 3 boundary (with the reciprocal of 280⁰ = 100⁰ forming the barrier between sectors 1 and 2). Practice on a piece of paper, it doesn't require a compass rose.
very informative lecture Captain, Thanks a lot!!
These are one the hardest topics in aviation to get my head around
1: holding patterns
2 weather theory
3: ATC communication
4: air space classification
5: VFR sectional charts
I need help In having a better understanding of them plz🤔🤔
I have to try the trim trick on the flare. Great video. I want one like that.
Another great video! Keep it up! Captain Joe!
Congrats on the 500k subscribers!
the best, I'm literally going to copy and paste your methods to teach my students. THANK YOU!!!!!!
The thumb method is a nice method. Remember that each student takes in knowledge differently. No singular method works for everyone. For some, the thumb method is not as clear.
No way is clear to me. Which is why I dropped out of instrument after wasting $16k on my instrument rating and 7 months training full time. Kinda pointless to know this when computer and auto pilot will handle it.
Captain Joe Thanks for the "cactus" shoutout! It's one of the best callsigns (I'll put Speedbird first, and perhaps Norwegian (UK) new Rednose third). I flew America West since its founding. Long live the memory of America West Airlines!
Thanks for your clear explanation. Even though your explanation was fairly simple and clear, what became clear to me was that I was not cut out to be a pilot. The rest of the world and I thank you for helping me see that.
Hahahah. I think it’s the same for me. No shame in admitting that. How are you now?
Hey Captain! Thank you very much for yiur video - its very useful!
Hi Joe,
It is my dream to one day become a pilot, I absolutely LOVE watching your videos. I have a book that i made with my learnings in aviation, though i am twelve. Thanks for making these wonderful videos, I love watching them😉
This helped me a ton, thanks!
Love the way Holding entries are explained
amazing!!! great work!
Thanks Capt!
Good video joe
Been struggling with this. Thank you.
Thanks Cap! I can now practice holding in FSX Steam Edition while everyone else around plummit to earth.