Ryzen 5 5600G & Reasons Why YOU Should Use One
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2021
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There are a LOT of good reasons to use an AMD Ryzen 5 5600G in your next PC build, but it doesn't always make sense. But for now it is the ITX build savior and the sensible choice due to crazy GPU prices for 1080p gaming
This upgrade had a few bumps in the road, some could have been avoided, some were self inflicted, but that is the fun of it all. So the ITX build is a bit of a luxury for us, but is a good chance to try the 5600G after i was a bit dismissive about it at first, and still in some instances it still doesn't really make sense, but in a ITX setup with GPUs still at crazy prices, maybe this makes a lot more sense than it would normally?
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Watching this is virtually identical to how I see myself doing things, albeit with my rage and swearing involved .
Good video showing the trials & tribulations. 👍
you should record it or even stream it live on the discord chat
Before I built a PC the reddit hivemind kept saying it was as easy as lego. In reality I faced many niggles but it was doable. Why do so many people keep saying a 6 year old can do it! I'm glad you always show the ups and downs of PC building.
yes it is a myth that pc building is easy, it is if you have someone experienced to hold your hand through the process, but otherwise there are loads of things that can be problematic
Cheers mate, another ace and informative vid. 👍
Thanks for watching, Mark. Have a great weekend :-)
This is the one I am wanting for my next build, just hope I can get one for a decent price so I can pair it with that MSI B550 board I recently got. Thanks for the review Mike and Kath 🙂
hope you manage to get one, they seem to be getting a little cheaper at the moment, hope that trend continues but doubt it. £200 would be a sweet spot for this
I hope you get it as well because I have a B550 MOBO, and it works so well with my Ryzen 5 5600g.
I picked up my 5600g for 260 usd paired it with a msi 550b bazooka and pretty content 3200mhz cl16 ram.. really good FPS in 720p perfect for a gap till I get my gpu
@@mikesunboxing Alder-lake might force AMDs hand.
Massive AMD fan and making upgrades soon, this definitely helps on decision making.
glad to help a fellow AMD fan
Thanks for the realism and showing that not everything goes 100% smoothly when performing these upgrades.
this is the real World here, we show it as it is, these things happen
Nice troubleshooting procedure. It's good that things didn't go as planned. This helps to teach people on what to do when things go wrong.
yes i totally agree
Another great vid Mike
I just wanted to share my own experience with this as from stock there's a bit of OC headroom on this chip with some minor tweaks.
Make sure you have Ryzen master and latest adrenaline drivers installed.
This is based on my test setup of a Gigabyte B550 Gaming X Motherboard + R5 5600G + 3200mhz DDR4
In the Bios :
Find the option to force the initial display to IGD Video
UMA Mode = UMA Specified
UMA FRAME Buffer size = 4G
Above 4G Decoding = Enabled
Re-Size Bar Support = Auto
GFX Frequency = 2200
GFX core Voltage = 1.2 (don't go above this)
Precision Boost Override = Advanced
PBO Limits = Motherboard
if you're overclocking ram (and there are plenty of vids explaining this)
My Adata D55 RGB 32000mhz (micron R Die) not great silicon I run at 3466mhz 16-19-19 with the following ;
VCORE SOC below 1.2v (I have mine stable at 1.78)
DRAM VOLTAGE at 1.36v
With the above settings my Heaven benchmark jumped 11fps, and testing COD:Warzone gave an average 56fps which i think is pretty good.
From my own testing the better the ram the more you can squeeze out of this processor,
My testing is done in an corsair 4000D ATX case with a Wraith Spire RGB cooler and temps don't exceed 60 degrees while gaming. This is the only point were I disagree with Mike
as I don't think you need to limit this to an ITX or mATX size, while the 5600G lacks PCIe 4.0 it's not going to have much impact on gaming.
Black Friday is not too far away and if you can get this around the £210 mark as I did recently it's an absolute steal.
might try some of those tweaks myself, appreciated
got one recently and so happy with it !!!
glad to hear it, what GPU or are you using the APU?
Very interesting build Mike. Complicated, even after watching 3xs mid section! I get the need for such a small size as still fancy one for bedroom but affordability is my issue. Wud early Ryzen cpu with say gt1030 be better value in say a matx build. Obviously need more room but then the upgrade path exists. Thanks for taking the time to detail the steps necessary. Have gud weekend Mike n Kath👍
we are doing a little build this weekend with cheap parts that should give "similar" gaming experience with very cheap parts which might actually cost less then the 5600g on it's own
@@mikesunboxing Are you building on the stream?
Nice build mike! looking forward to getting my build done this week. Love the ITX Chassis, but the Motherboards are a bit pricey! I'm looking forward to seeing how the 5600G runs for me... I did a ITX build in 2018 that cost me about $300.00 and use it as a media player for movies and audio... have you ever used the "Raijintek" brand? I did the Metis Plus in Gold and absolutely love it! the unit you built is really nice. what are you going to use it for?
lots to answer there 😁 yes heard of the brand but not had any components but maybe should take a closer look. the 5600g system is currently in bits. i have a 2200G in the inwin B1 case in the living room for light gaming and media duties, the 5600g was going to replace it but the 2200g is still going strong so seems no point using it there
There are many many use cases where you need a decent CPU but have no need for extensive graphics.
In this climate, where GPUs are basically unavailable, these APUs are the obvious choice.
I don't know why people have a hard time understanding that.
The suggestion of buying a used graphics card makes sense for a budget gamer, but is completely unacceptable in any professional situation.
i agree totally
Thanks for the video and also letting me that I made the right choice on my CPU.
Good choice!
i bought one and i love it
i'm not really a gamer, so i dont chase after newest games or ultra settings or whatever, but this cpu is enough for me to play gta 5 and others with no trouble at all.
yes it is a really good option and hopefully now intel 12th gen is out we will see some price drops
Exactly the same for me bro
Great video, thanks Mike. At work yesterday all our computers all went down, so we had to do everything manually! It took me like half an hour to shuffle the cards for Solitaire!
Haha! Every time there’s a blackout I feel so...
...powerless!
Nice video, watching from my Ryzen 5 5600G + Asrock A520mITX/ac
Good choice! works for me!
Another option is 4750G if you can find one. I did, and it make a great productivity machine. Cooling can be fixed using Delta fans on the Noctua heatsink, if you can stand the noise.
Thanks for the tip!
Just built myself a 5600G system, replacing an old FX8320 system with a 1050ti which was not carried over to the new system. Just running on the IGPU, I am very happy with the results I am seeing. It will definitely hold me until GPUs come down to sane levels.
hopefully you won't need to wait much longer, things are starting to look up
is it better compare to the 1050ti, as i'm using 1050ti myself.
@@twinkleaway i think 1050ti is a little better
APU systems are great for those that just want a desktop that can do the every day, without needing to shell out for a graphics card. Really brings down the cost and with modern APU's like this one the performance is actually pretty nice for what you get.
Very true!
Nice for what you pay, absolutely. The cpu is roughly equivalent to a Ryzen 3600 (even though it does use the newer Zen 3 architecture), and the GPU is roughly equivalent to the best version of the GT 1030. The price you pay for the GPU gives you very good GPU performance per dollar, and you're also getting fantastic performance per watt, and obviously it also takes up a lot less space than needing to use a discrete graphics card. It's also the best integrated graphics except for the 5700G, which is only slightly better, and costs significantly more (and that's an 8-core CPU which just doesn't make a lot of sense for most people).
2 years later and I still heard the machine ticking over
FLASH ARE AREEE ,Allways bet on the Flash,Flash back..lovely video mike you did that in a flash lol
lol thanks darren, was a fun little build
i have the 5700G replaced my 2700x which became a another pc eventually. i was not sure when my 1080ti had much life left then one day it died and used the apu for a month or so till i taken a try at my 1080ti. soaked it in rubbing alch for a bit then reassembled after it dried and it kicked back to life, i guess there was just some dirt causing leakage over time on it and caused it to short. now for life still no idea but having updated cpu with an apu i can rely on in my situation is great to have as a back up and best part is if i never retire it in the future i could make an apu based home server or something with it for low power use case.
that is great, and glad you got your GPU back to life
Exactly 2 weeks ago I have my first build on APU (tbh it was my 6th PC Build).
I choose 5600G because I have 95% of iGPU performance from 5700G with much lower price.
I build 5600G in a slim Micro-ATX case and couldn't be happier because the minimalism, power efficiency and thermal dissipation are properly designed for a sleeper mini/slim case.
I'm heavily against those Noctua and 3rd party CPU Cooler because Wraith Spire (old gen with copper core) is better for this APU.
Thanks for sharing
Yep, it good. I just built a desktop and used the Ryzen 5 5600G. I have had a lot of problems with GPU's in the past. When my previous PC's have died, it is usually the GPU and power supply that fails. So I saved myself some money this time and bought the Ryzen 5600G, although even using some of my old parts, the build still cost AU$1500.This is the first PC I built myself.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics 3.90 GHz, 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Sir should I enable docp/xmp? As i have 2x 8gb 3200mhz ram but running at 2666.
My processor got damaged just after two days of purchasing and I got it replaced, i enabled docp previously so don't if it was reason or not.
yes enable it
I enabled it... Docp in bios
Hey it's the dude from the movie the mummy lol..just kiddin good video
Sending a plague of beetles for your insolence
I recently bought this one on sale, will it pair well with my Geforce Rtx 3080 ti graphics card?
No not really the 5600x or higher would be more suitable
asrock thermal tape sure released easy from that m.2. could'nt tell if the clear tape had been removed.
yes it was 😎😉
Great video, a question what's the best B450 motherboard for this Ryzen 5 5600G cpu ?
B450 steel legend or aorus elite pro and if you can find one the b450 carbon WiFi
@@mikesunboxing
Thank you for your reply. The Aorus Elite Pro and the B450 carbon aren't available.
Please notice that I'm not a gamer ( Just CS Go fro time to time ) I'm gonna build my Desktop without External GPU so I want a desktop for work mostly. Should I add 15$ more to get the Steel Legend or the Aorus Elite V2 is just fine ?
@@mikesunboxing waiting for your reply
@@unkn0wn-me aorus elite v2 will be more than enough
@@mikesunboxing
unfortunately it's out of my budget, is it Okay to go with the B550M Steel Legend for light games and work " Coding "
I'm having the same problem. I've got the exact cpu connected to the asus p750 pro and it won't boot at all. Nothing comes up. Can't figure out what bios it needs
This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
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@@mikesunboxing thanks
is ryzen 5 5600g pc build can handle how many hours you playing? or unlimited games can handle it?
i'm not really sure what you are asking, but the 5600g is good for most games at lower graphics settings
Now I'm thoroughly confused I thought we always had to rename the bios file ? So some you do and some you don't goofy!
they change there mind like intel change sockets
Perfect for a tiny PC but I opt for larger Media PC size cases so I can put in a GPU. I run 6600XT/6700XT on my TV PC's. I have a 5600G out in the garage but it has a old GTX1080. I have a $50 5600X in my area that I was considering buying to sell the 5600G but might be a waste of time as I don't game much in the garage and the back up iGPU might come in handy if I eve need to take out the old GTX1080.
Glad the 5600X deal fell through, the guy had no CPU in the box. Well a few weeks later someone made a $180 offer on one of my 6600XT's so I figured I could temporarily move the 1080 over to replace the 6600XT. In time I will come across a 6700XT/6800XT or better and that will push the 1080 back to the shop PC for its limited gaming demands. Just figured if someone was willing to pay $180 I might as well part with it and hold onto the cash for another deal. This was on a extra Media PC and Shop PC so sell high and buy something better later when a deal pops up. And the 5600 "G" made it possible with that flexibility. I hardly game out in the shop but is nice from time to time and that GTX1080 fits and matches the shop PC great. Plus the 1080 makes for a great back up card for one of the PC's in the house.
I just checked and the Biostar B450 motherboard I have support the 5600g. The 5600g could be a good replacement for the 4650g if youtube start to lag ... I just got a 2x16gb set of gskill 3600 cl16 to replace the 4x8 gb of the same ram. I'm tempted to upgrade my main computer with the fastest cpu Amd will release with v cache to replace my 3950x and build another one with the 3950x to either sell of rent. Now, Ijust want to checj how well 2x16 and 2x8 gb work together..
new AMD cpus in january it seems - time will tell
@@mikesunboxing Yeah, that's what I heard. Not in a rush for DDR5 ...
I am about to build my second time ever DIY PC. this is a home office PC, no gaming just normal use and casual basic video editing.
I have a brand new, never used AMD Ryzen 2400G lying around, but came upon a great offer of Ryzen 5600G.
My question - does it make sense to buy the newer CPU and will I feel a big difference between the two?
yes especially for the video work, the improvement in the IPC for all tasks is massively improved
@@mikesunboxing thanks a lot for your reply!
Isn't Windows 11 still reducing AMD performance by a bit? Will this hurt the result?
not that much really and modern cpus are so fast any reduction is only a few percent
Just finished my 5600g build for my daughter. It will fulfill her needs but I expect to add a dedicated gpu in a year or two (she really needed a pc now though and it needed to be built to a budget). Should be a giant leap over the laptop she has been using though.
What is the max power draw of this cpu?
somewhere in the region of 80 watts
When DDR5 matures the next generations of this kind of cpu will be great for a low power gaming pc @1080p
yes the extra bandwidth and frequency will be good as long as the latency does get too high
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I went to see the worlds largest snooker set the other day. It took a while to get in, the cue was massive.
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I’d like to play but I gotta “split” 🤦♀️🤦🥴
It took so long to get there. I was just dying for a "rest" 😴
I just built a PC with a Ryzen 5 5600g, Rog Strix B550-F Gaming motherboard, GTX 1070 founders, and 16 gigs of 3200mhz ram. Set everything up, and still had to enable that chip. I need to download cpuz, and check my Bios version lol.
hope you get it sorted
@@mikesunboxing I just manually turned it on in the bios.
I'm sure my b550-f gaming motherboard needs a bios update though
@@mattalford3932 Feel free to join our Discord chat if you want any advice discord.gg/gaeeDPw
@@mikesunboxing I need to join discord
You Mike …. Wrong ….. don’t tease us! You’re too modest 😆😝😂
i have a habit of being wrong, but i cover it well
It is also four time faster than GeForce GT 710 graphics card. All that hardware is crammed into too small a case as you note poor airflow...I have the CORSAIR Carbide Series 275Q Mid-Tower; air cooling is fantastic with room to spare. Compared to GT1030 the performance is about the same but the GT has only 2Gb RAM wheras the Ryzen has dynamic allocation of as much RAM as needed from the system, but means more system RAM is needed..
USB flash back support only make life easier if the damn thing works. :) My last attempt didn't, lucky I was able to get access to a compatible CPU instead.
yeah it seems to be a minefield for some people
If you case can't handle a 65w processor in there sounds like a mounting issue or pbo
more a airflow issue recirculating warm air
why did you not use diskpart instead
for what part?
Hoping for the next generation Ryzen 7700G APU with 16-24 RDNA3 CU's paired with DDR5-7200 reaching Nvidia GTX 1060 speeds at only 65 Watt TDP.
That would be awesome
Youre in for surprise
Sadly the price is still iffy imho
I wish AMD would bring the PS5 APU to the desktop. That ones graphic chip is on the level of a 6700XT GPU. These low end APUs are only really usable if you don't game much.
yes that would be awesome, and sell very well
Technically they did it as the AMD 4700S desktop kit. Repurposed defective PS5 APUs into a system board that's honestly a piece of junk.
Went a little fast to follow downloading and coping the bios i would be scaired to try.
if you need help we can walk you through it on the discord chat
Which is the cheapest Mobo that works out of box with the 5600g?
difficult to say. some brand new b450 boards will but unless you can see the box and see the ryzen 5000 ready sticker you can't be sure.
otherwise it is likely to be a x570s board
a520m
Im getting this and pairing it up with something like gtx 1660 because in finland 5600X costs more than this
hope you enjoy it, should be pretty good
just buy a pci-e extender cable so you can run a gpu without removing the motherboard so you can flash bios, they are a handy tool in the box.
good idea
That was my path a 3600 and gtx 1660 ti i couldnt get any other card at the time and even then payed 400 for a used 1660 ti and performance isnt much better than an I5 490k and 1050 ti lol
1050ti is still pretty good and especially now with mad prices on everything else
cheers....
thanks Craig, have a great weekend
Gona move it to my itx mother ^^
nice!
used a 5600g married with a gtx1660 with 32 gb ddr4 on a n asus 320-m motherboard with updated bios using an nvme-m.2 ssd 2x 2tb hds for storage and it handles everything that i throw at it maybe not high end but keeps this old 60+ year old happy.
if you enjoy it that is all that matters
Hopefully the alder-lake releases will force AMD to release more lower-end APU’s.Competition is good.
i hope so
I have seen Ryzen 5 and 7 5600g cpus for under $200.00 US recently (within the last month).
yes the prices are much better now they are becoming end of life
Oh man with this vid up it will be harder to source one at fair value 😅
Waiting for sub £200
yeah sub £200 make a lot more sense
You need 32GB 3200MHz CL16 RAM that is new standard, specially for new APU's.
thankyou
@@mikesunboxing I went for 5700G since my use for it benefits from 2 more cores, and I don't want to pay for gpu, at this time. I also got 32GB 3200MHz CL16 RAM. I use 1080p144Hz IPS monitor, since I found it at good price.
Now when I've seen the title someone testing Forza Horizon 5 with 5600G + 16GB RAM, I got cringe, but I had to see it....,and I was right 30% use cpu + 100% use of gpu + 100% use of RAM. Tell me if I'm wrong but if gpu has 100% use of V-RAM, and needs more it takes that RAM from Memory modules, that way with 32GB 3200MHz CL16 RAM you would have better resaults, and you are not spending too much money on 64GB 3200 CL16 RAM (if you need 64GB RAM then you need dedicated cpu, and dedicated gpu).
Cpu with intergrated graphics is good for budget but can't be used on a b450 or older board, from what I learned
should be okay for b450 with a bios update
with bios update b450 and x470 will work
B450 yes. I currently have that combo. But b550 and newer, incompatible from what I've learned
I'm not sure why but b550-newer don't like intergrated graphics 🤔
@@MrNobodyLand i think your refering to older apu, yes the zen+ is not compatible with the 500 series mobo (except x570) but newer apu like ryzen 5600g, 5700g, 5300g will work straight out of the box in the 500 series mobo
this guy looks like the villian from the mummy
i take that as a compliment
5600g or 5700g it just a leftover or bad silicon from other cpu line. no gpu improvement from 3400g at all , i would suggest to get the next rdna2 apu instead.
there is a uplift in performance inherited from the better memory controller
Nah mate, it's not a leftover from mobile CPU. It's a completely new chip which happen to be harvested from the same wafer of 5800HS.
I just bought today ryzen 5 5600g paired with gigabyte ds3h non wifi mobo
nice setup
@@mikesunboxing thanks buddy more power to your channel
@@raimundnabong5343 Thanks :-)
Gra phi cs card? I've heard of them not seen many out in the wild. Must be a pokeyman..
lol yeah the lesser spotted GPU, a rarity around these parts
Write down 100 lines: you have to keep your BIOS updated!
yes i know, but sadly things didn't work out as intended, i was planning on replacing the 3000g with another one, but CEX are way too expensive for those now
I would not buy any current APU. If I were going to buy one, just buy a laptop for now and wait for the next generation which is going to use RDNA 2 and get rid of the crappy Vega graphics.
So if you can wait a few months for the 6000 series Rembrandt APU's I would do that.
yes it will be interesting to see what the next gen of APUs are like
@@mikesunboxing I've been trying to build another desktop for some time, and if they are anything at all like the leaks and reviews so far, I'm getting one and Nvidia can keep their $2k cards.
Buying a laptop you're paying more to get even somewhat equal performance with no option to add a gpu later. Of course, the current APU's only support pci-e 3.0 but so far that doesn't seem like a huge problem
@@perkristoffersson4153 Actually a decent laptop now cost less than just a video card does. A decent video card now will cost you about that much alone. I paid $1200 for an MSI with a i7 10750H and RTX 3060.
Sure it's not much better than my old 2060 desktop, but I can't exactly carry around a desktop and monitor with me when I travel.
But were not talking about video cards, we're talking about APU's. If you're buying an APU, either you're buying it for a small form factor so it's portable, you're not worried about video intensive programs or games, or you just don't know any better.
As I said, current APU's are crap for anything with graphics and while not bad cpu wise, it's hard to justify buying a current one unless you're on an extreme budget.
£110 Amazon as of Oct 11 2023
that is really decent pricing. AM5 APU's are likely to be £200+ i think
Wtf that processor use Ram storage for Graphics memory
yes that is how onboard graphics work
If AMD doesn't have anything against Intel 12th gen for 2022
Then they should decrease there current ZEN3 CPUs prices
As long as Zen 3 keeps selling unfortunately AMD may just keep prices high.
with the shortages and expected crisis in the next few weeks there is no reason to and retailers will want to cash in after the losses through the last year
Have you been in a scottish video with an lift that has an american accent?
i don't think so 😂
@@mikesunboxing ah. My mistake.
@@Alihassan9193 Lol!
Increase the AMOUNT of V-Ram
this is done dynamically now i think so the system will allocate what it needs based on the usage and available resources
support comment :_:
Haha 😂 🥂
@@mikesunboxing Maybe this comment that i use have some glitch in YT or power. 🤣