The BEST Memory for Ryzen 5 5600G & Ryzen 7 5700G - Frequency & Timings Testing
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- The Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 7 5700G performance and benchmarks are well known already but in this video we discuss the effect of memory speeds and latencies on IGP gaming performance. What is the best memory for Ryzen 5600G and 5700G? Should you look for higher speed memory for the best performance or latencies? Or should you just save some money and get a basic memory kit?
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0:00 - The Best Memory for 5000G Intro
1:53 - Ryzen 5 5600G & Ryzen 7 5700G Specs, Pricing
3:39 - Vega comes BACK
4:29 - Real World CPU Performance
5:12 - Gaming Benchmarks
5:42 - IGP Gaming Performance vs GT 1030
7:09 - Ryzen Memory Speeds Explained
8:11 - Memory SPEED vs IGP Performance
9:13 - Memory TIMINGS vs Gaming Performance
10:03 - Choosing the BEST Memory for Ryzen 5000G IGP
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That's one of the most aesthetically pleasing thumbnails I've seen. Wow!
N your profile too
It is awesome to see reviews of the APUs. GPUs are way too expensive these days
my rx 460 just kaput this morning, thank god i just changed to 5600g
@@AbuGuroza Kaputt is german.
@@fynkozari9271 oh thanks
@@fynkozari9271 Kaput means something else in German, and they got the word from French. Kaput in this use case is purely English.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I can speak german.
Vega is just the last version of GCN which started back with the 7970. Really has stood the test of time. My uv & oc'ed Radeon VII really has held up.
I’m currently trying to build a ryzen apu system, and this video really clarified a few doubts I had about the impact of memory speeds on performance. I have to say, I’m still a bit disappointed that you didn’t show how memory speed affects cpu bound tasks, but you still earned a sub today 😊
You're very articulate and easy to listen too. A good presentation with good info which is unlike some others I see who talk so fast and throw so much info at you it's hard to try and even keep up with what they are saying before they move on to something else. Thank you!
Useful video, it saves me money to see, that an upgrade of memory from my current 3000 MHz to 3600 MHz will not bring very much. My Ryzen 3 2200G in Apr 2019 was a cost-effective solution with its $97 and its max 2933MHz DDR4. The 5600G is NOT a cost-effective solution for non-gaming users. I consider upgrading to a 4600G or 5600G in 1 to 2 years, when the prices (2nd hand) drop say $100 to significantly below $200. I think I have a good chance after the introduction of AM5 and DDR5 in 2022/23 :)
Looking health Eber! Much love :)
thanks alot for this, very clear and informative. I decided to order a 5600g and 2x8gb crucial ballistix 3600 cl16. Not trying to go all out, but wanted to be middle of the road kinda thing, while watching the budget. Either way, it's going to be leaps and bounds above my current 1090T with 8bg gskill 1600.
Great timing! I'm benchmarking a 4350G right now with some cheap DDR4-4000 and am about to start playing with the timings, it's good to have some data to refer to here 🙂
the saund and the lightin of your videos is great, is pleasent to watch
Thank you for testing this specific scenario of the integrated praphics!
very good comparison between mem speed and timing, exactly what I was looking for :-)
Great video and a lot of time and effort put into it! Thanks 💪
very informative & well presented, thank you!
For the timing section, I think you mean a "meaningful" change instead of a "measurable" change as you numbers showed that you measured a small change.
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks!
Thanks for the work Eber 👍
considering the fact that increasing memory bandwith resulting in almost linear performance uplift, i think why they still use vega until now is because ddr4 memory cant keep up with higher performance igpu. things might change when ddr5 hit the market, and become common, then maybe we'll starting to see higher performance navi igpu.
I think the argument is that they could use a newer architecture like RDNA one or RDNA2 with no RT tech to use less CUs and get the same performance as Vega with 7 or 8 CUs. But, faster memory would be required no feed more CUs... Or on board memory!
It would seem the Steam Deck is proof of that, as it's RDNA2 iGPU is paired with LPDDR5.
Could the 3D cache (or how it's called) replace some memory bandwidth like the Infinity Cache?
Well said. infact the newly introduced ryzen 6000 for laptops use rdna2 for the graphics part and suppory/require ddr5 memory.
this man just predicted the future
I was under the impression that the older Apu's where more affected by the timings, than the speed.
It's nice to see the direction that AMD takes, with those new ones. They became more GPU than apu, as gddr ram has much worse timings and latency, but stupid fast clocks. This pretty much describe the gddr5 ram also..
I just wish they use more CU, as there's no replacement for displacement!
and RDNA2 instead of vega graphics.
@@carisi2k11 Polaris was 28nm, and barely broke 1200Mhz. The 64-core Vega 10 chip was 14nm, and barely exceeded 1400Mhz. It also had a 4096-bit bus, which ought to have made up for the speed, but didn't. The Vega 20 was 7nm, but with 60 cores, you should have gotten more out of it. But, the on-chip Vega ditched the HBM2 controller years ago; I am running Vega 8 at 2100 Mhz, for hours, without a problem. I looked at the clocks on RDNA 1; the Vega cores since Zen 2 have been faster than the discreet cards for RDNA 1. I think they completely re-engineered Vega in the move to TSMC's 7nm process.
Excellent and informative! Thanks again for another great video
Amazing video thanks so much. Concise, to the point and with great testing and information. 10/10 video man. This is the first video I saw on your channel too. Subbed!
5000g chips and motherboards going on sale rn, just picked up a 5600g and motherboard combo for $310ish for my little brother for Christmas :)
Baffled that current-gen APUs have 7-8 Vega cores, while the 3400G had 11. Hell, baffled they're still using Vega at all. I guess Intel's garbage IGPs aren't giving them much incentive to step it up.
I watch a video, where they claim RDNA is very sensitive to memory speed, so AMD is waiting for DDR5.
@@Petethecoolguy Interesting. That would make sense given the Steam Deck's custom RDNA 2 APU + DDR5 combo.
3400g run those gpus cores at much much lover clockspeeds! 5000 series Vega did upgrade in clockspeeds a lot! And 8cu is about the max that 4 channel ddr4 can support… Heikki this test choise that even 7 Cu version is badly memory starved. So apus need a lot of more memory speed. Not faster gpu part… at least not yet…
You're completely ignoring that DDR4 just isn't suited at all to graphics work. It's not fast enough. also it's less cores but they run at higher clockspeeds.
November 2022. Got 5700G at work. I'm in IT. Absolutely love it. Btw most of my IT team runs AMD at home. And yes, I found this very helpful Thx
Thank you so much for the video!
Of course it help, thank you!
Definitely subbing after this video
Awesome explanation, awesome video, big thanks for it!
thanks for all these info! Great!
Thank you for sharing. Might I suggest that you link the "Ryzen Memory Timing" video that you reference several times in the video description?
I bought a kit of Samsung B-die 3200 CL14 and I clocked to 4000 CL17 and it's stable. Samsung B-die is the best RAM you can buy still in 2021.
Hi, what motherboard do you have? Thanks!
Thanks for this well done video.
Informative! Thank you.
Great info. Thank you.
Excellent video, still useful in Summer ‘23. I’m about to swap out 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600mhz CL18 for 2x16GB G Skill Ripjaws CL16, and I was wondering what to do next - tighter timings or higher frequencies? This video makes me think I should leave timings alone and go for higher RAM/fclk clocks (and try to hold on to CL16, but not too hard).
Awesome explanation, sir. Thank you.
Thank you. Very instructive video.
I have read your mind. I just built a PC yesterday, and got this CPU and paired it with 16GB DDR4 3200. It plays everything I play just fine. Nothing major, but I only emulate on the PC and it works flawlessly
The aesthetics of this video are so pleasing!
it very helpful to decide for my new build
really good info thank you
Important video. Thanks.
this video helped, thank you.
Thanks man, your video just saved me the trouble of trying the Rams from my mining rigs myself, now I know to just take my Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 4000 ram and forgot the rest on this particular machine although I short of thought so as most dedicated GPU news gddr5, gddr6 running at crazy speeds, like my gigabyte rtx 3090 master that I used for mining, that puppys ram was running at 104-110°c because gigabyte use shit thermal pads, replacing them with some Thermalright EXTREME ODYSSEY II did the trick and lowered it to less then 50°c but also the rams were running at 9600mhz in oc mode. From that I kind of understood the importance of speed and the igp using system memory as video memory it was obvious that ram speeds were important.
This is really appreciated since I'm considering going to a even smaller ITX case without a dedicated GPU.
Get the $125 G.skill flare X, Bump the voltage to 1.45V, and the frequency to 3600 You'll be able to keep the 14-14-14-34 timings, and it's much cheaper than most other good kits.
Patriot steel viper has a 4400cl19 16gb kit for $115 that will under clock and produce very tight timings... Samsung b die ICs are the best memory modules available currently.
@@ComputersAre8ad how can I know which brands modules have this samsung ICs?
That thumbnail is awesome
This is great Eber!!!
i like this Eber dude, so pleasing~
I wonder how these CPUs and integrated graphics work when it comes to video rendering tasks. Would be nice if you could cover that aspect too when talking about integrated graphics and graphic cards, especially for casual gamers who do the occasional video rendering as well for work. Love how Eber signs off with saying you should spend responsibly ;) nice touch.
Agreed. This is the second video on CZcams now that has analyzed memory speeds and timing on the new AMD APUs that has only tested gaming performance. Please show rendering and general productivity benchmark differences as well!
I understand your question. From watching Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed and AHCO, I'm left with the opinion that integrated graphics can do video rendering...it's just going to take a long time to perform the task. A 1660 would be faster than igp's. Just my .02c.
@@GB-zi6qr Thanks. I thought it might already be on par with a 1550 - 1660. 🤔
@@rubikazariah don't bet on it. I'm thinking dram isn't the same as vram. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@rubikazariah On par with probably GT 1030 or GTX 750 but 1050s+ are better cards than Vega lineup.
Curious if the secondary and tertiary timings were manually set during these tests, left at Auto to run wild or if they were monitored and if so what they were as a few of them can really have a large impact in speed.
Thanks for the video
I love this dude's voice, and calm demeaner.
this was very helpful.
nice video, nice work!
Late to the party, but I have a 2x 32 kit OC’d to 4000 MT/s. I’ve been curious as to how this memory would perform on the 5700G. Thank you, fellas!
Thx for ur work
This is the most perfect 5600G 5700G video that I've always wanted. Thank you.
Before the video I figured 3200 average timings.
After the video it was still 3200 average timings. Amazing!
Loved the background lighting. Good job.
Thanks for the great info! I would like to see the 5600G (or the 5650G) paired with 3200 speed RAM, but with a variety of applications. 🤓
Hardware Unboxed did something l like that recently. Ram scaling for the 5600g and 5700g with 1/2 a dozen different RAM kits.
@@marcc5768 cool thanks. Plan on getting the 5600G as the 5700G is out of my PC build budget! 🤓
@@marcc5768 I read a post on line, where several top brands of RAM were tested. The ones tested were all 3200 speed, which, for my PC budget, is what I will go for!
@@j.lietka9406 try to get CL 14 or CL 16 for best results. CL 14 might be a bit more but worth it for performance. Don't do beyond CL 16
@@marcc5768 ok thank you!
nice and useful!
I remember Dimitry playing an indie game in one of his videos from wayback, I think it was a puzzle game of some sort with orange being the predominant color. Does anyone know what game it was?
Eber, ty much for the detailed overview. I was wondering if dual-rank can be a factor? Ty.
yes, but if your mem clock is high enough, dual rank doesn't really matter.
Yes it definitely does since running dual channel ram will effectively double the memory bandwith.
A dual channel 8x2 2400mhz kit will easily beat a single channel 16x1 3200mhz stick in these scenarios
dual channel /= dual rank
@@AnantGupta02 Sorry my bad
you won't notice the difference, you won't notice performance difference between dual rank dimm or single rank.
the difference is shown in numbers, in charts of tests, in micro numbers and ultra speeds that you won't notice.
even your same New pc with 2x16 RAM single rank 3200MHz will give you different values in Forza Horizon running the test four times,
Cinebench will give you different results running it two times in a day for five days.
(even so being the same new pc without any usage more than the tests).
a lot of youtubers show the benchmark results of blender or tomb rider...
*how many times the test was ran to post the result?*
of course, this channel is reliable and trusted, real ! not as other fake anonymous without any proof that shows the have made the tests (benchmark, pc benchmark, testing games....)
Sensacional quality and sharp video... how camera and lens used ? Regards
It would be cool to see how 2x16 dual channel dual rank 3600 CL14 memory frame rates would chart since the latency in nanoseconds is so low.
Timings are less important than the speed. It doesn't matter if your timings are lower when you can't move enough data to make it matter.
Do the new intel CPUs have similar sensitivities in laptops? I see that some gaming laptop companies are putting just average, single rank RAM in all their systems so I wonder what would best suit a RAM replacement/upgrade for the 2021 lenovo legion 7i s
please do a review about the 4650g as well. thanks :)
Make sure to update the description to include the affiliate links to buy the new processors :)
Thank you for a simple and well presented vid which actually explains what we, the average Joe, needs to understand.
I did today (January 2023) a test with a game. The latency is by far the most important for the Ryzen 5700G as swift clock speeds. With the RAM speed set to 2733 Mhz and timings of 20 19 19 I get with the same game between 65 fps to 112 fps. All other settings on auto. It never passed that fps. With the same RAM (lowest is rated for 2400 MT/S and the other is rated for 3000 MT/S) set at auto it runs at 2400 Mhz and it's timings are according to the UEFI (Asus Prime B450M-A II) at 17 17 17 (all settings on auto) I get most of the time 145 fps and up to 165 fps peaking sometimes to 220 fps and 245 fps. Looks like the CAS latency is by far more important in my 5700G system (RX 6600) as the RAM clock speed.
One thing to remember: GDDR timings are really loose. For GPU performance, timings matter way less than raw transfer speed!
Since a dedicated GPU is so expensive I'm going to try to build a new system using the 5600g then add a dedicated GPU when prices drop. I'm also going to overclock the thing though.
Super video 👍👍
Short answer: 3200mhz CL16
You're welcome.
"X" series also is able to use NVMe gen 4, the "G" series uses Gen 3 NVMe M.2. The "5800X" runs really hot as well
I really needed this video. I am on the fence with getting the 5700G or waiting for the possible 6800G/6900G successors.
Edit: In the end decided on waiting for Q1 2022 for the Rembrandt APUs. They are going to be much better in comparison to the 5700G. The Steam Deck was a good indication of this including the leaked roadmap.
Are they really coming in q1?
Rembrandt is canceled, wait until 3-4 q 2022 for raphael
Yes the 6XXXG series would likely see a huge improvement in the graphics segment cause of new DRNA 2 architecture and DDR5 and it might have the Navi graphics which are much better than Vega. I am also waiting for that series to get started with my pc building!
@Viztiz what a joke, ryzen 6000 will pair with ddr5 up to 12000 mhz speeds, it will proly reach mid end gpus like gtx1660, thats why amd ended making low and mid end gpus.
@@emersonmatheus8611 don't choke on your own hope lol
thanks guys
Nice test but what I'm looking for I didn't found: Differences between DDR4 3800 or 4000Mhz with SINGLE AND DUAL RANK -.- I thought that the Crucial Ballistix MAX (DDR4 4000) I've bought where dual rank. But today I've looked what they really are and surprise surprise my 32GB Kit (2x 16GB) are SINGLE RANK. So I'm very interestet if there are any differences between the power.
Great comparison! Thank you very much for the information. I am going to build a pc with the 5600g because I think that with the 3600 memory it is the sweetspot between price-value for some decent 1080p gaming.
Im going to go for it too. :) have u built a pc yet?
Thanks for your comment, just what I've been looking for. I'm on board with the 5600G and he 3600 memory.
@@dalewilson908 you should consider i5 12400/12400f which intel just released. 12400f about 200$ and is on par with r5 5600x (if you're going to buy dedicated gpu straight away) then 12400 is better choice
Hi! What’s the difference of 3600 to 5600? And the x to g? I am a bit stuck moving forward cause I am so lost whether to get 3600 or 5600 and what other parts should go with it
@@cocomu9955 5600x is much more powerful than 3600, and the difference between 5600g and 5600x is the "G" stands for apu which means it has built in graphics card in the processor, so you can play less demanding games with only the cpu if you have the 5600g. but 5600x is about 10% faster in performance. Hope this helped
I'm glad you did a chunk of time for just the iGPU. I just tested a 3100 + GTX 1650 (non-super) and the 5600G from your benches performs better/on par with the aforementioned combo, but here's the rub: I paid 128 + 214 for that cpu + GPU combo due to shit prices of 2021. So, for just the 5600G I get more cores and threads and better/same performance in games, for about $82 less. Yes please.
Less power consumption (not sure) + less stuff in case(better temps most probably)
And it enables small mini pc cases like the ASRock X300W. Not everybody wants a huge largely empty case or can afford/justify a graphics card to go in it. Little space and little money is the way to go these days.
just one question that no one mentioned even in AMD sites, does the 5000 series APU's still limit the pcie bandwidth x16 to a maximum of x8 lanes? just like the 1st and 2nd gen ryzen APU
@HardwareCanucks Can you provide what stock frequency was your RAM kit used for testing?
There might be some silk purse from a sows ear ram kits out there. I bought some Timetec 3600 CL18 ram for 2 different computers 2 years ago when fairly fast ram was expensive. They were single rank modules wth one controller per stick. 2 years later, I want to upgrade from 16GB to 32 GB in both computers. I installed T-Force 2 X 16 3200 CL16 in my sisters computer and it's great. I installed the two matching salvaged sticks in my computer for 32GB dual rank but it didn't want to run fast. Ram often doesn't when running 4 sticks. It was almost stable at 3200mhz CL16 but I had to drop it down to 3133mhz for rock solid stability. Since I couldn't go up, I decided to go down with the timings. I got the timings down to CL14 16 16 16 34. I gained dual rank with the salvaged ram along with 32GB. 3200 CL16 =10. 3600 CL18 also = 10. 3133 CL14 = 8.9 latency. I think it's a pretty nice set now, all things considered. There is better ram avalable at better prices these days and don't think you need to break the bank. If I had more time than money I would look at modules of ram that matched the QVL for both the motherboard and the processor and price shop. My ram isn't actually in the QVL for my board so I got the joy of learning manual overclocking, but it still works. It's not that hard.
Any suggestions for a game like world of warcraft? Torn between the 5600g or 5700g lol. I also want to build mini-atx (k39 case) and someone was saying the heat buildup would be a lot more on the ryzen 7 due to the smaller case? I might add a GPU at some point but no big deal just want something that will play warcraft decently since my laptop is falling apart. Thanks!
parabens pela qualidade visual do video, faz muito tempo que não via uma qualidade dessas em imagens Full HD.
ini yg aku cari selama ini 😮
Whoahh, I had no idea the 5600G did not support PCI gen 4, I was going to get a B550 board, but now I know there's no point in paying up for that!
Here in 2023, the GPU storm is not as intense, but it's still not an attractive time (for me) to buy. I bought a new R5 5600G for $118 US, 32 gb DDR4-3200 for $80, and a good 1 TB NVME for $90. I did buy a robust upgrade-worthy B550 MB. We'll see if upgrades ever make sense. Now I gotta watch the memory running video...
I got some of the worse memory for my 4650g cl 22@3200 however cl 22 at 3600 was very noticeable do looking like what and recommended back in the day of Cl 17 @3733mhz is still the sweet spot to aim for
I literally just purchased a new PC yesterday with 5600G and corsair 3200 RAM so will be putting it to the test soon.
How is it?
One thing I've discovered monkeying around with these is that power consumption only goes up very slightly if you overclock RAM. It did increase significantly if you overclock CPU or GPU, though. Mind you, it's very power efficient so this isn't a major concern, but it will make fans louder.
Just from my own experience, upgraded a Core i3 10100 and Asrock B460M Pro mobo combo to a i5 10600 and ASUS B560 Plus mobo combo. (yes I've seen Hardware Unboxed video on ASUS B560 mobo's, this one has a heatsink on the vrm's. Not sure how good it is, hope to be taking a closer look at it in the not too distant future.). With the memory tuning available on the B560 platform my son is able to run Destiny 2 at 60 fps on lowest settings. He's locked it at 40 and gets better frame consistency this way. He could not get the game to load on the older setup. Both setups were/are running DDR4-3600 memory with CL18 timings. He may not have had windows 10 set to performance mode with the i3 setup, I don't know. Now with about a $600 dollar computer setup he can run the games he wanted to run, not at the speed and resolution, but they will run. Fortunately I've convinced him that the cost of DGPU's are prohibitive at this time. Yes I can afford one but refuse to give into economic piracy.
Some folks may not have this latitude/flexibility and that is truly unfortunate. It's unfortunate because these folks may have no choice but to work form home and require a desktop computer with substantial resources. Hopefully people in this situation have an employer that will defray the cost of such a system to help their employee. This is the kind of situation that show's capitalism at it's worst. The flip side, imo, while computer gaming and social media are enjoyable, we need to get back to better interpersonal relations. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not impossible either.
The human body responds very well to moderate physical activity, I know this from personal experience.
Well said.
What I needed is the 5300g, which is OEM only. NOT for gaming and no dedicated GPU will be used. I may have to go with Intel i3. Just need a quick 4 core/8thread CPU. Maybe a 10320.
I am still considering. A six core, just don’t know if there is justification for the spending.
Still lovin' the 3400g
This year's black friday was sick!! the 5700g reached as low as 260$ !!
Thanks now i know now 😍😍😍
thankyou! I got a 32gb kit of 2x 16gb, and base speed is 2400mhz, but XMP takes it up to 3200mhz..
I just picked up a duel channel 8g 4000mhz ram setup for my 5700g today
this is good news for me because I just bought a cl-18 3600 kit
I did build the Ryzen 5600g RIG for friend of mine, I did pair it with Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB ( 2x8gb ) 3600MHZ with CL18. is that ok? I threw it all on Asus B550M-A wifi Prime. He wanted just home use of PC and occasionally play some games.