Ram 5500 w/4.88 gears pulling 24,000lbs
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2021
- This is my 2018 Ram 5500 with 4.88 gears pulling our 24,000lb 5th wheel over a 1200 mile trip over 3 days. Check out our fuel mileage.
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#ram5500 #ram #5500 #rvlife #rvliving #4.88gears #4:88 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Love the size of your RV's, just mind blowing to us Brits LOL
LOl, a little different than you are used to I guess. Thanks for watching and the comment.
I have a 3500 SRW that I changed gears to 4:11. Now I get about 10 with my 14K trailer. Now that transmission does less gear searching and pulls way better on these small Southeastern hills. I feel your pain at the pumps.
Sounds like you made a good switch. Yup, fuel pumps love to see us coming lol!!
So I’m watching this today 09/02/22 and I thought I just share from my experience. I have a 2020 5500 single cab with a sleeper. I transport cars with a 5 car mini 5 Kaufman trailer. I drove from Tallahassee Fl to Houston Tx and my load was about 14k lbs and my trailer weighs about 9500 lbs so my total haul weight was 23500 lbs. I averaged 9.3 with average speed of 70mph. I got my truck brand new and today I have almost 41k miles and all I can say is so far so fckn great!!
That’s a beautiful setup. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!!
That is a great setup. Thanks for sharing. Kent and Tami
Thanks and you are welcome. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Sounds like a good truck for your RV! Thanks for sharing! ~ Shion and Matthew
Yup, all the numbers came in line for weights so that makes me happy. Thanks for stopping in and the support.
Good Video, Beautiful Ram 5500! You could pull just about anything with that truck.
LOL,,, well we can certainly pull all WE need to. Thanks for watching.
Dave, thank you for making these videos of your Ram 5500 towing your heavy 5th wheel. Your videos are the only ones that I have found that directly show the 5500 trucks capabilities. I just ordered one for myself to tow my heavy 5th wheel. Keep the videos coming! Thanks.
Thanks Keith, I'm happy to hear that our video's can help someone along the way. And congrats on ordering the new truck!!!! I'd be interested to hearing how you like it when you get it.
Wow, that is one nice setup, I see that you have the right truck for the job, awesome.
Thanks, we sure like it and it DOES do a great job. Thanks for stopping in.
Travel safe and looking forward to hearing about your new fifth wheel.
Thanks, we are going through the pickup process right now. Video's will not be far away.
Beautiful set up!
Thanks, it all came together as planned for sure.
Nice. Love the camper. When I retire we will be looking at something like that.
You have a nice rig already. But thanks..
Great pulling power you have there. 👍
Thanks, yes, it is a joy to pull with.
Got to love the Ram Trucks. I have a high output 6.7 Cummins tuned and straight piped and also tow a RV, but not a full timer by any means. I am only pulling about 10,000 lbs with my RV so I see 12-14mpg sometimes a little more if on the highway a lot, but mostly we are on backroads doing local camping. I do pull a deckover gooseneck with heavy equipment on it that will get to about 25k at times, but usually not far enough at once to really judge the fuel mileage
It sounds like your rig does what you want it to, perfect. Yup, got to love a Ram. Thanks for stopping in.
WOW, sir your rig I hope you realize is beyond beautiful.
Thank you, I sure do enjoy driving it and it's a great workhorse.
You are lucky in California running at 70 big tickets. I have a 2021 3500 single rear wheel. I pull a 9000 fifth wheel and get 13 mpg and Def about 10 miles per gallon. Truck weights is 8660 with me .I use all 6 gears at 60 miles per gallon .I have been driving ram trucks for 34 years and my 1989 12 valve was awesome , my 03 ram junk, my 2021 ram 370 horse power 850 torque awesome Truck. I also pull a 19000 lb dump and it does it's job well. In my opinion ram is the best built big rig pickup. It's not how much you can pull it's how much you can stop. When you get in the 26000 lb weight the is air brake country. Disconnect your trailer cord and try to stop that big load with just the truck brakes at 45 miles per hour and don't use your exhaust brake. You have just simulated an electric brake and torque converter failure. Good luck on your journey. Denis
The brakes on the 5500 are a big part of why I went that direction. The brakes on the 5500 are larger than the 2500 and 3500's. All good points.
Super nice setup on truck and trailer. Looking to order a NH myself.
Thank you!! Have fun researching the NH. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.
What a beautiful rig. A fantasy would be an electronically controlled two-speed axle while keeping the Aisin.
Oh that WOULD be sweet!
Good video!
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed.
Wow, that's quite the rig.
Thanks, I really enjoy it. It does a great job.
Dave, I can't quit you...
I keep watching these videos over and over. See something new everytime I watch them! I was doing a "build" on the RAM site. You can get the 5500 Diesel with 4.44 gears and not lose much at all. Did you consider that? Most diesels seem the most efficient around 1800 rpm or so.
Things change with each model year but in our model year we needed to go with the 4:88 gears to get the Max Tow PKG and we needed that for the weight of our rig. LOL, and you just keep on watching. I'm just glad it's helping someone.
It's amazing honestly. 7.3 mpg. My semi pulling 75,000 get 6.7. That math don't seem to add up right if you ask me. Thanks for the video! Answered my question about my personal truck.
Yes, thats crazy. What truck do you run? I imagine air drag and the part of the country you normally run in plays a big part in that. Thanks for watching. Thanks for watching.
@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707 yeah that could be. I drive a 2021 Volvo PNL 760
@@mikegrimes2836 Oh yes!!! Nice truck.
Nice truck, sounds perfect for your towing needs. 👍#21
Thanks, you,, that truck is a real work horse and is a joy to drive.
We do the same with a 3/4 ton cummins.. 40 foot 9500 pound trailer.. and 8 to 13000 pound loads. Getting 11 to 12 mpg
Cool, thanks for watching and the comment Adam.
That’s not bad for that much weight 👍
It's pulls pretty darn well. And you know what, it stops that weight very well also. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Great video. I really do not care about MPG. I am more interested in performance and safety. This 5500 is the answer to heavy 5th wheel towing.
Thanks Danny! I'm with you, the MPG will fall where it will and at the end of the day I don't really care. What I do care is that the truck does the job and does it safely. Hey thanks for watching and the comment.
id love to trya big beast of a truck like that, impressive
Dave - Now I don't feel bad about the MPG we got going across Kansas into a stiff headwind. Same results as yours!
Hi Terry!!! Yup, we can't expect much better pulling the weight we pull.
Great sharing
Thanks!!
Very nice truck an also camper👍
Thanks, we have been very happy with the setup. Thanks for stopping in!!
What a beastly set up! I love the large fuel tanks you have. Do you have a tour of the inside of your camper?
Thanks!!! And yes, there is a video of the inside and a separate video for the outside. We are picking up a new rig right now and we will have a video on it as well soon. Thanks for watching and the comments.
@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707 Awesome, I'll have to check them out tomorrow!
The RPM’s aren’t too high for 4.88. I have 3.73 and it hovers around 1800 at 70. Nice tow rig 👍
Yes, I was a little reluctant to go 4:88's but was pleasantly surprised how low the RPM's actually are and how it performs. Thanks for stopping in and the comment Blake.
This is my dream to have a 5500 hauling a Luxe touring Canada US and Mexico 🙏🤗
Sounds like a plan. Make it happen and keep us posted.
I have been searching for a truck myself and came across your channel. Love your content and information, you got a new subscriber. I have been researching the RAM cab and chassis and comparing HP and torque against the pickup versions. I am assuming, and wondering if you can confirm, that the trucks like yours being built by Classy Chassis, Luxe, and Utility Body Works are using the same engine and transmission offerings that are in any other RAM cab and chassis trucks. Meaning they are using the “de-rated” engine/transmission combinations (when compared to the RAM pickup truck horsepower and torque numbers) and that they are not using the engines and transmissions tuned to deliver the HP and torque numbers found in the pickups. It is my understanding at this point that the cab and chassis trucks are using the same HO engine and transmission as the most powerful RAM pickup combination but they are just tuned differently from the factory resulting in more linear power and torque curves than what is found in the pickup versions. I have watched most of your videos at this point including the several where you show your drive over the passes in Colorado and through Kansas. If your engine, transmission, and axle ratio can haul your setup that successfully with the “de-rated” Cummins and Aisin with 4.88’s then I know it will be ok with my 16k setup. I am not looking for 4.88’s since my weight is considerably lower. I am looking at getting a micro version of what you have for this phase my wife and I are in, something like the C/C 3500 and fitting it with a flatbed. We primarily boondock with no intention of visiting campgrounds on a regular basis. Given the terrain we have encountered during our first six months and the height if new truck beds and bed rails I see a huge advantage in using a tow vehicle with a lower profile providing more space between the camper and something that will damage it (bed rails).
Hi Phillip, thanks for stopping in. Yes, the engine in the 5500 with the Classy Chassis Hauler Body is the same engine that comes in the 5500 from the factory. In other words they ARE the detuned engine. There is no doubt in my mind that this truck would not even know that your 16K 5th wheek was hooked up when running down the road.
Dave 👊
Ron!!
Very Purdy!!!
Thanks, we enjoyed it.
Do they detune the motor on the 5500? I read they do that on the Ford F560/650. I drive a 21 Ford F-350 dually long bed 6.7 and love it, but your bed and 5th wheel hitch setup is amazing. I can’t imagine you getting a new 5th wheel. Yours looks brand new and REALLY nice.
Yes, they do detune the 5500 engine but with the gearing I certainly don't notice it. It is something I was worried about however. Thanks for watching and your comments..
The aisin must have a taller overdrive than my 450. I run almost the exact same rpm as you. My mileage is about the same also. I keep mine around 65 mph and 2000 rpm. I am pulling a 44 foot DRV weighing around 25,000.
Oh yes, they are certainly a overnighters destination.
nice damn rig, live in Kansas myself, those headwinds will git ya. What would you estimate a 4.10 diff would get you for mileage? Curious what pressure you run those tires at also.
Thanks Jarrod. I'm not a gear head so I couldn't really say what type of mpg you would get with 4:10"'s but there are apps that will figure that out for you. I run between 100 and 105psi when hauling as a rule.
With a heavy load like that, you will not see much difference in mileage. You will see a big difference in acceleration. At speed the engine is going to have to put out a certain amount of power, that will take a certain amount of fuel. There is no free lunch. Light weight you can then see some difference.
The road noise sounds like cannon fire
Cannon fire? I'll have to go back and listen because I don't remember any cannon fire sounds. Thanks for stopping in.
With headphones on it’s bassy and loud you’ll hear it.
That's awesome you can go cruising up those grades at 70+ man! The ram 5500s motor is rated at 850 ft/lbs of 5orque right?
Well I'm sure we could do the grades at 70 unloaded but I assure you we certainly can't with our 26,000lb 5th wheel in tow.
Hey Dave
How close is the brown paint match of the Ram to the New Horizons brown?
Pretty darn close. Close enough that we have had some people comment that we had it painted to match.
Hi Dave, does that rig require a class a CDL based on weight?
Hi Dan. We licence in Oregon and it is not required. BUT I always suggest that a person should check in the state they plan to license in because it could vary from state to state.
Hey Dave, do you know off the top of your head if the 5500’s have bigger brakes than the 4500’s, or are the 4500 and 5500 brakes the same?
I would have to go check my notes from when I was researching but I am pretty darn sure the brakes are the same diameter.
@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707 10-4, thankya sir!
So what is it like to pull a large fifther like yours? I mean with a tail swing and such.
Howdy Brenton!!! Well,,, it's big, it's long,,, its tall and yes there is some tail swing but if a person takes care and pays attention to what they are doing and if they have a truck that is big enough for the job it's not really a problem. Thanks for stopping in and the question.
How often does your truck regen. Have you ever had a dpf issue? Thanks
Actually I have never noticed it do a Regen and so far no issues with DEF at all. Hmm, hope I didn't jinx myself LOL. Thanks for watching and the question.
I think the new 2023 5500 I’m looking at has 4.44 so maybe do a bit better on fuel not sure
Is the 4.44 going to be their new Max Tow PKG?
Need some DEF soon buddy
I always carry a jug or two with us. Thanks for watching and the comment. .
Hey Dave, how well does your 5500 pull hills on the highway with your trailer? I am considering a Classy Chassis like this to haul my 5th wheel.
Also, how is the ride from the front suspension? Should I consider adding the Kelderman air ride to the front suspension also?
Hi Keith. It does fine in the hills, the big hills you will not win any races to the top but it does fantastic on the steepest down hills. I would recommend heading to our channel and watching our latest video "Ram 5500 pulling a 26,000lb 5th wheel on Wolf Creek Pass". If you are thinking about a Classy Chassis I also suggest you watching our video named "Our truck and 5th wheel made contact". And our video "Ram 5500 with Classy Chassis hauler bed walk around". They are full of some good info and maybe things you should watch for if dealing with Classy Chassis. I am also open to any and all questions you might have after watching them.
I am personally fine with the ride with just the rear Kelderman and have no intension of adding the front.
Do you think if you ran it under 2000 RPMs it might do a little bit better?
Well logic would say yes but I feel the sweet spot is just above 2000RPM just from the feel. I'm not sure by dripping under 2000RPM would be a huge difference.
With that weight, you gotta have a class A CDL... Non commercial?
My best advice is to contact your states DMV and follow what they say.
What kind of fuel mileage do you get when you are not pulling the 5th wheel? Looks like a great truck to pull such a large rig. :)
With a mix of city and highway we get between 12 and 15 MPG. We have not really done any long freeway runs without the 5th wheel but from what we have done we are around the 16mpg. Not great but not all that bad when compared to the Jeep Rubicon we used to pull around behind our old Class A.
Do you get the Same mileage when it’s empty?
It hardly ever gets any highway time without the 5th wheel but when it does it's at 15mpg.
Mximum towing capacity for this truck is 34,200 lbs. Also you would legally need a CDL to haul this because you exceed over 26,000 lbs. I think you are saying the GVWR of the 5th wheel is 24,000 lbs not the actual dry weight. 40 foot means the 4th wheel is actually probably 45 foot because the model will say 40 feet but this does not include the front cap & legally by DOT regulations that front cap would get counted.
If it's personally you do not need a CDL, only commercial. Most diesel pushers exceed 40,000 lbs and some high end one push 60,000
@@youcandothis3029 I am in the industry of hauling travel trailers for a living. You can haul them and not have a CDL if you are leased on with a company. But you have to go by the gvwr rating combinations of both truck & trailer that cannot exceed 26,000 lbs. A CDL driver that is plated at 26,000 lbs can give by actual weight
How much was the hauler bed
If you are asking about JUST the bed with the options we added just the bed was just above $20K on top of the truck price. Keep in mind there are options we added that we certainly did not need and there are options that we did not order. Of course we did a lot more to the truck on top of the bed that pushed our additions to over $30K over the truck price. Also keep in mind that in todays world I'm pretty sure prices have gone up some.
Sounds like you have the stock suspension. RIP.
No, we have the Kelderman suspension.
NICE!@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707
At 35000 Lbs. do you need a CDL?
It is my understanding that in Oregon you do not need a CDL for a RV being used for personal use. Even back in our Class A days when we were even heavier Oregon did not require a CDL. Each state is different and I would suggest checking in the state that you are licensed in.
There are 14 states that don't have an exemption for RVs and the state that I am in (Maryland) is one of them. We have a 42' class A (55,000 lbs) and I need a CDL as long as it is tagged in Maryland. I went class A CDL which lets me tow trailers over 10,000 lbs.
What's the payload on your truck?
the rear gross axle (GAWR) rating is 13,500 and our rear axle weight is 7520lbs without our 5th wheelk hooked up if that helps. Is that what you are asking or are you asking how much trailer youi can haul?.
@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707 I guess I'm asking, what is the GVWR of the truck? And if you weigh it, what's the difference (GVWR - actual weight = X)? That will give you the amount of weight the truck can hold - the payload.
should do a weight reduction. no point leaving that on there
What weight reduction are you referring to, the RV?
i wasn't sure if the truck was deleted- no emissions. no egr cooler, valve, dpf and def tank - weight reduction
Oh, no deleted.
2150 rpms seem way to high. Every cummins that's out of its powerband.. now your trading fuel burn for horsepower while torque falls off. 1850-1900 rpms is perfect for a cummins towing mileage would improve into 10-11 with the ,4.88
I don't know if you guys know that anything that GROSS 26000lbs and over you NEED a CDL!Just thought I mention it!
I do and lucky enough that we are actually a few hundred pounds shy of that number. But we won't be adding any more weight lol!!
@@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707 gross means truck and trailer combined, not just trailer. You are in the low to mid 30s most likely. I’m pretty sure nationwide anyone over 26k gross needs a cdl.
24000lbs? With the truck?
Ok. I see. You said later in the video lol.
@@tomhopkins6758 oh heck no, just the RV.
@daveanddianethrowingcautio5707
Totaled my truck. Had a cab chassis chevy duramax 3500. Weight was 11,200lbs. (Made it 31,000 Total) Most of what I haul for work is 10,000 or less. But my 5th wheel is 21,000 . Legally, "I think" I'm ok. I live in north Carolina and campers are recreational and therefore exempt from weight ratings.
Looking at a chevy 4500 or 5500 should weight about the same as my old truck
Don't you need a commercial license once you gross over 26,001lbs ?
Of course you aren't gonna get mileage at 70mph and 2150rpm
You got that right lol!!