Ben is like Phil now nothing kills him has more lives than a cat - gets beaten up as part of homophobic attack when with Paul - Gets attacked by Luke Wilmott Brown and ends up in hospital - gets shot by Hunter Owen - nearly drowns on the boat - nearly dies of a drug overdose What's next?
I disagree with that Ben stopped the protection for a stupid selfish reason what makes it even worse is that it was all for nothing anyway because clearly Phill and Sharon still like each other and therefore the whole Keanu storyline was all for nothing anyway so if I was suki I would do the same thing yes Suki is horrible herself bit I understand her reason for leaving him and so does Ben clearly
@@gloriempaka9474 And Suki's actions weren't completely selfish? Framing her own son for her own crime and letting him go to prison? Because, what, she didn't like his girlfriend? Whereas I see the responsibility for Jags's death on both of them, I considered Ben's actions as a tantrum. It doesn't make anything better or justified, but it was clear to me that he made this desicion in the heat of the moment when he was drunk and angry. Especially since he immediately regretted it once he cleared his head and tried to undo it. Suki had full intent with everything she did. She didn't want to take responsibility for her crime and disapproved of her son's relationship, this was the perfect solution for her problems. When did she truly show remorse before Jags's death? She could've put a stop to this at any time but she didn't. She followed her self-centered, cold-hearted plan instead. Therefore, I don't see any reason to differ between the guilt these two carry. If Suki ever truly loved her son, she knows how much she contributed to put Jags down the road that led to his end. That's probably why she's hates Ben to this extent, to distract herself from her own responsibility.
@@gloriempaka9474 You said you understand Suki's reasons for leaving Ben (which is killing her son) and you would've done the same. That's wrong on so many levels considering the active role she took in her son's misery for her own selfish reasons. Jags's blood is on her hands as much as on Ben's, so she doesn get to play the grieving and uninvolved mother.
@@lamariposa5558 yes but that doesn't mean I would be in the right I know it's wrong but I understand why she did it and if I was suki I would leave him too that does not make me a Saint but oh well nobody is perfect in life both Ben and Suki are wrong that's for sure Suki is not the only one to blame for his death so is Ben period
Ben comes across as indifferent to Callum saving his life. Looks like hurt feelings on both sides. His reaction comes across as cold. It is like Ben doesn't love or care about Callum anymore. It is interesting last week Callum saved Ben life yet walked out on him in hospital. Today, Ben seems apathetic to Callum.
Didn't really like this scene as the whole thing is a bit of a continuity error just for the exposition for Phil to find out about Suki. We know Callum hasn't been since the first day but are we meant to believe Jay wouldn't have visited? That no one would have mentioned to Ben "Callum's not been because he knows what drugs you've been taking but he and Jay did find you". Did they mention he had a set back after the scan because they put him back on all the monitors and oxygen
Yeah I still want to find the results of the scan, and the fact he went from being off all medical equipment to back on oxygen, although they could’ve just taken everything off him due to him going for the scan, either way it seems weird they mention the scan, show him going for it, but not the results
@@joanneellie9599 yeah if he went from not needing suplimental oxygen to needing it and hr bp monitoring again it would point to there being something wrong. I know people are feeling Ben's been through enough now but I wouldn't mind if they show in the future there were some long term health consequences. Always annoyed me he got shot and was absolutely fine 2 days later. Even wacking his head in the Thames hard enough to go deaf was never checked out just his hearing! They just have him going through his 9 lives unscathed!
@@mechellemybell1000 Suki caused Jag's death indirectly by framing him into prison. But Ben called off Jag's prison protection, which directly led to Jag's death. And that's the difference. Be that as it may, the EE-verse is ga-ga over Ballum, come what may. Am I wrong?
@@carlosrobbins9178 lol. His MOTHER sent her child to jail. And you’re going to put more blame on moronic Ben? Who knee jerks over the most dumb things usually? This is HIS MOTHER. HER SON. I’m not saying Ben is innocent in this at all. But like… SUKI sent her CHILD into a dangerous place when he did nothing wrong & where he prob would have enemies cause the panesars are criminals - just like the Mitchell’s and etc. you’re really going to put more blame on the moron melodramatic dude from the ship you dislike over jags MOTHER sending him to jail. Obv? Ben can do hugely trash things, but she sent her CHILD she carried for 9 months to prison on a silver platter just cause he wouldn’t listen to her. That’s harsh af. Phil wouldn’t even do that. I mean? It makes Suki interesting but come on… IT WAS HER S O N. Her child!!!!
Suki was right, she did nothing wrong when she saw that human trafficker who is partly responsible for her son's death lying unconscious and walked away.
🙄 if you'd leave someone for dead because you don't like their action you're no better than them. Can we stop pretending that suki is blame less? Yes, Ben is partly responsible for Jags's death but the other part is Suki framing him. I'd say a mother spending their child to prison is a bigger betrayal. Also, what is they didn't know Ben or have protection money? Jags would have died weeks before and Suki sent him there knowing prison is dangerous.
Ben is a fictional character that the writers like to make morally ambiguous. What he does or doesn't do is all make believe. He can be both good and bad in the same episode if that it what the writers want. Again he is a fictional character. So what is your excuse? You are saying things in the REAL World that are horrible. You would cause harm to REAL people if they acted like these fictional characters. You want to look for a "Villain".........Go find a mirror.
@@pistachioonut6683 naturally! It's called karma. Ben got his karma, that's why he wasn't pissed when he found out Suki left him for dead. He felt deep shame. Ballum fans, you can't deny that Suki did the right thing when Ben himself knows that Suki was right.
Ben's witty lines and humour is why I love him so much.
Ben's jokes are hilarious
Im glad phil is finally being a dad to ben, when something bad happens it, brings everyone together
Finally he get told Callum save his life
Ben is like Phil now nothing kills him has more lives than a cat
- gets beaten up as part of homophobic attack when with Paul
- Gets attacked by Luke Wilmott Brown and ends up in hospital
- gets shot by Hunter Owen
- nearly drowns on the boat
- nearly dies of a drug overdose
What's next?
Like father, like son
I get Ben stopped the protection but suki was the one who put jags in prison in the first place. Its completely her fault
I disagree with that Ben stopped the protection for a stupid selfish reason what makes it even worse is that it was all for nothing anyway because clearly Phill and Sharon still like each other and therefore the whole Keanu storyline was all for nothing anyway so if I was suki I would do the same thing yes Suki is horrible herself bit I understand her reason for leaving him and so does Ben clearly
@@gloriempaka9474 And Suki's actions weren't completely selfish? Framing her own son for her own crime and letting him go to prison? Because, what, she didn't like his girlfriend?
Whereas I see the responsibility for Jags's death on both of them, I considered Ben's actions as a tantrum. It doesn't make anything better or justified, but it was clear to me that he made this desicion in the heat of the moment when he was drunk and angry. Especially since he immediately regretted it once he cleared his head and tried to undo it.
Suki had full intent with everything she did. She didn't want to take responsibility for her crime and disapproved of her son's relationship, this was the perfect solution for her problems. When did she truly show remorse before Jags's death? She could've put a stop to this at any time but she didn't. She followed her self-centered, cold-hearted plan instead.
Therefore, I don't see any reason to differ between the guilt these two carry. If Suki ever truly loved her son, she knows how much she contributed to put Jags down the road that led to his end. That's probably why she's hates Ben to this extent, to distract herself from her own responsibility.
@@lamariposa5558 I clearly said that Suki is horrible herself..
@@gloriempaka9474 You said you understand Suki's reasons for leaving Ben (which is killing her son) and you would've done the same.
That's wrong on so many levels considering the active role she took in her son's misery for her own selfish reasons. Jags's blood is on her hands as much as on Ben's, so she doesn get to play the grieving and uninvolved mother.
@@lamariposa5558 yes but that doesn't mean I would be in the right I know it's wrong but I understand why she did it and if I was suki I would leave him too that does not make me a Saint but oh well nobody is perfect in life both Ben and Suki are wrong that's for sure Suki is not the only one to blame for his death so is Ben period
The way Ben jokes, he sounds like he's back to being himself again.. at least for now.
Thank goodness callum and jay found ben because he definitely would had died
Ohhhhhhhh I cannot wait! I detest Suki. I don’t care about anything she went thru in her past. The way she treats her own children is beyond.
Ben comes across as indifferent to Callum saving his life. Looks like hurt feelings on both sides. His reaction comes across as cold. It is like Ben doesn't love or care about Callum anymore. It is interesting last week Callum saved Ben life yet walked out on him in hospital. Today, Ben seems apathetic to Callum.
How does Ben completely gloss over the fact Callum saved his life.
I can’t believe Ben’s jokes is so hilarious, thanks to his dad, Phil!!
Ben must still be weak if he still needs that oxygen Basel cannel thing
He was just told who found him. I was expecting more of a reaction tbh
@@Marie-cw8vp I'll give him all the time he needs 🙂
@@Marie-cw8vp He will ❤
Didn't really like this scene as the whole thing is a bit of a continuity error just for the exposition for Phil to find out about Suki. We know Callum hasn't been since the first day but are we meant to believe Jay wouldn't have visited? That no one would have mentioned to Ben "Callum's not been because he knows what drugs you've been taking but he and Jay did find you". Did they mention he had a set back after the scan because they put him back on all the monitors and oxygen
Yeah I still want to find the results of the scan, and the fact he went from being off all medical equipment to back on oxygen, although they could’ve just taken everything off him due to him going for the scan, either way it seems weird they mention the scan, show him going for it, but not the results
@@joanneellie9599 yeah if he went from not needing suplimental oxygen to needing it and hr bp monitoring again it would point to there being something wrong. I know people are feeling Ben's been through enough now but I wouldn't mind if they show in the future there were some long term health consequences. Always annoyed me he got shot and was absolutely fine 2 days later. Even wacking his head in the Thames hard enough to go deaf was never checked out just his hearing! They just have him going through his 9 lives unscathed!
Suki killed Ben
All Suki has to do is say Ben was hallucinating. END OF.
Besides, what's Phil so mad about? Ben is responsible for Jag's death, FFS.
nah if it weren’t for Suki, Jags wouldn’t have been in prison in the first place
Sadly EastEnders will never make Ben take some responsibility for his wrongdoings and will always find a way to shift the blame on others.
@@forzacmo9069 where did he shift the blame about jags? Lmfao. He said Suki blames him for jags. That’s all he said. He didn’t deny it
@@mechellemybell1000 Suki caused Jag's death indirectly by framing him into prison. But Ben called off Jag's prison protection, which directly led to Jag's death. And that's the difference. Be that as it may, the EE-verse is ga-ga over Ballum, come what may. Am I wrong?
@@carlosrobbins9178 lol. His MOTHER sent her child to jail. And you’re going to put more blame on moronic Ben? Who knee jerks over the most dumb things usually? This is HIS MOTHER. HER SON. I’m not saying Ben is innocent in this at all. But like… SUKI sent her CHILD into a dangerous place when he did nothing wrong & where he prob would have enemies cause the panesars are criminals - just like the Mitchell’s and etc. you’re really going to put more blame on the moron melodramatic dude from the ship you dislike over jags MOTHER sending him to jail. Obv? Ben can do hugely trash things, but she sent her CHILD she carried for 9 months to prison on a silver platter just cause he wouldn’t listen to her. That’s harsh af. Phil wouldn’t even do that. I mean? It makes Suki interesting but come on… IT WAS HER S O N. Her child!!!!
Suki was right, she did nothing wrong when she saw that human trafficker who is partly responsible for her son's death lying unconscious and walked away.
Awww, you’re still crying and whining about super evil Ben, yet following a channel dedicated to his fans😱 are you right in the head department?
🙄 if you'd leave someone for dead because you don't like their action you're no better than them.
Can we stop pretending that suki is blame less? Yes, Ben is partly responsible for Jags's death but the other part is Suki framing him. I'd say a mother spending their child to prison is a bigger betrayal. Also, what is they didn't know Ben or have protection money? Jags would have died weeks before and Suki sent him there knowing prison is dangerous.
Ben is a fictional character that the writers like to make morally ambiguous. What he does or doesn't do is all make believe. He can be both good and bad in the same episode if that it what the writers want. Again he is a fictional character. So what is your excuse? You are saying things in the REAL World that are horrible. You would cause harm to REAL people if they acted like these fictional characters. You want to look for a "Villain".........Go find a mirror.
Knew you'd be here crying 😂
@@pistachioonut6683 naturally! It's called karma. Ben got his karma, that's why he wasn't pissed when he found out Suki left him for dead. He felt deep shame.
Ballum fans, you can't deny that Suki did the right thing when Ben himself knows that Suki was right.