Barebow Build - part 1 - Limb Setup
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- Coach Elton explains the nuances of limb setup on a new Barebow setup.
He covers the concepts of preload, specifics on setting limb tiller, the importance of limb alignment, and the often overlooked concept of ensuring the bow is on plane. At each step of the discussion, he demonstrates the concept by setting up and adjusting the demonstration bow that he’ll be using for the indoor season.
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Contents:
00:00 Intro
00:49 Limb Preload
01:53 Preload demonstration
05:08 Limb Tiller
07:38 Tiller Demonstration
10:21 Limb Alignment
12:27 Alignment Demonstration
16:19 Bow Plane
18:08 Plane Demonstration
21:04 Closing Thoughts - Sport
Your delivery content and video qualityares impeccable! I enjoy watching this a lot even though I have done all this many times before you only added to my knowledge.
Bernie brought me an ilf riser so this session is mandatory ... thank you Elton
Never could understand how one can find better coaching on CZcams than an archery club, THANK YOU
Well, if you’re like me, who spent most of my life on the tip of an island where the closest club or range was an hour away, videos are pretty damn handy, and cheap.🏹
The contents of this channel are super concise and clear. Glad that I found it
Excellent! I am learning so much. Thank you thank you.
Awfully clear and precise explanation. Much better than I have seen in other videos. Thanks.
Awesome, Elton. Clear and precise. You are so calm..always in the zen? So knowledgeable..and thank you so much for sharing and taking the time to produce such fan-flippin-tastic vids. Keep it up. May the force be with you.
Elton, these explanations are clearer and more comprehensive than even some of the "big names" out there. I really appreciate you putting this info out in a way that is easy for beginners to reference.
Hear hear
Fantastic! I've never found this information so clearly demonstrated. Thanks
Great video. Keep going. Thanks to you I finaly bought my new bow after 7 years not shooting. Nice.
I hadn't seen that on plane test. Thanks for sharing
Observation, Centimeters rather than millimeters on the bow square when measuring tiller. 2.54 cm per inch for those of use still using the Imperial system,
Whoops. lol 😁
Great video.
you're a legend, thanks Elton!
Thank you for explaining into details.
Barebow should be renamed modern barebow
Great video Elton! Are you in Massachusetts or New Hampshire? You look familiar.
Thank you! While I do tend to travel a lot, I’m not in either of those states. I’m based out of eastern Pennsylvania currently. 😎 perhaps you’ve seen me at one of many different tournament events?
Pardon the remedial question but are you suggesting that the only reason to remove the string before making these micro adjustments is to preserve the limb for resale? Is the limb really so delicate? Thanks. (Great video!!)
Essentially. The finish on the limbs can be scratched on the underside of the limb root if adjustments are made without de-tensioning the string. While some archers may not care about those aesthetic changes, there are some that would prefer them to not be there (or minimized) in the second hand market. This is why I generally teach it to be a practical habit; If the archer learns, then chooses not to care and makes adjustments under tension, they go into it conscious of what they are doing.
From a structural and functional perspective, it would take an inordinate amount of scratching to work all the way through the clear coat finish and to start damaging the actual limb root. So functionally, the limb will not be affected; as such I would not refer to the limb as delicate, only the clear coat finish applied for aesthetics.
Would the on-plane test be similar to aligning with the front stab?
Using the stabilizer holes falls in the category of ‘arbitrary reference point’ in my opinion. First, there is no guarantee that it is properly centered; it is often just a steel threaded collar that is pressed into a drilled hole in the aluminum. Second, and most important; we don’t press with our grip hand on the stabilizer hole; we press on the grip, which means the grip area is the critical area to align the plane to in order to avoid unwanted torque effects from being out of plane.
@@barebowbasicsThank you for your reply! Will try this on my next tuning session.
Btw, I was the buyer of your orange Jager JD3 grip that you sold quite awhile back.
Do you know any sources for the early human tuning forks? I can't find them for sale.
Unfortunately they discontinued production a few years ago. Occasionally you’ll see a set come up for sale on the used market; they disappear pretty fast though due to demand. If everyone were willing to pay a premium for a set, and gets in touch with Keith Shetler, the original designer and producer, perhaps he would reconsider making another batch. I happen to have two sets from the original kick starter, and having lived with them for years now, if I somehow lost mine, I’d easily pay $50+ for a new set in a heart beat; they’re just THAT good in my opinion.
When I found out about them they had just gone out of stock. Unfortunately the original maker decided to not make anymore but luckily was able to buy a second hand one. I too would be willing to pay a premium if the original maker decided to make another batch and buy a few in a heart beat!
If he actually does someone please reach out to me!
What's the tool that acts like a tripod to hold the bow up?
It’s a bow jack. Simple stand used by many compound archers. Many barebow archers have found it to be an ideal stand as well. lancasterarchery.com/products/truglo-bow-jack
Quick question regarding bow length for a taller shooter (6'4) with a 30" draw - im looking to buy my first barebow setup and was told to go cheap at first. I want to aim for a 72" rig meaning I would need to get a 27" riser. These usually cost a couple hundred dollars more than a "cheap" 25" riser, $130 vs ($300-400 for an entry 27"). Id like to learn good technique with a 72" bow but not sure the cost difference is worth it compared to a 70", what do you think?
One other question, i viewed your form video but you didnt touch on hook release, ive heard different opinions on how we are supposed to release the string, could you please give your input? Thanks!
There’s two questions here, so I’ll address the quick one first.
Shot execution (release) is a topic I haven’t covered yet. It is forthcoming though, likely the next segment as it completes my discussion on the entire shot cycle. I cannot do it justice trying to explain it here in a comment reply unfortunately, so please stay tuned.
The more complex answer for what riser to get depends on how committed you are to learning the sport and discipline. While there are many archers who have shot 25” risers with long limbs successfully for decades, even with a longer 30” draw length, if you feel you are going to pursue competition seriously, my normal recommendation is to spend the extra for the 27”. If this pushes your budget a bit, see if you can find a used riser, as there are often many available. (My friend Peter is selling a great Gillo g1 right now for example)
If you aren’t at a point where you are confident you will truly pursue competition, then a 25” riser with decently designed long limbs will certainly work great for recreational use. Too many people forget that using that combo has successfully won many state and national titles, before 27” riser prevalence became mainstream.
@barebowbasics Thanks! Do you have a link to your friend's riser or the price?
There is a buy sell group on Facebook; here is his post.
facebook.com/groups/1879744912098892/permalink/25163041540009234/
Did you mean 18.5 "cm" instead of 18.5 "mm" (at around 8:50)?
Yes! Sorry, it was an error of speech; unfortunately there’s no way for me to correct it once the video was published. Approximately 18.5 cm was the distance from limb surface to string.