The Top 5 Corals to AVOID

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  • My list of the Top 5 Corals to Avoid. What are some corals you think people should avoid?
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Komentáře • 215

  • @tidalgardens
    @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +54

    I hope you guys enjoyed this video. What do you think? Are there any corals that you think people should avoid?

    • @MandrakeFernflower
      @MandrakeFernflower Před 5 lety +2

      Pipe organ corals - all lfs near me stock it and they all end up dying
      Also trendy sticks are a no go too

    • @portwolf2293
      @portwolf2293 Před 5 lety

      Than I'm the guy that can't kill anything in an aquarium even with neglect.

    • @2pleez122474
      @2pleez122474 Před 5 lety +1

      Sun coral ....Tubastrea. I always see people giving it away or trading because they’re tired of caring for it or I see it dying in tanks because they don’t know that it’s non photosynthetic

    • @JosePena-lk1gq
      @JosePena-lk1gq Před 5 lety +2

      Thank you very much Sr for all your advices.they are really helpful for a new hobbist,like myself.I have watched many of your vídeos and i have learned a lot from them.You never try impose us nothing.I see that you only share your vast experience with us.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      True. Tubastrea are super high maintenance. We have one right now and I feel like I have to feed it 3 times a day or I feel guilty.

  • @WHOABUBBAvideos
    @WHOABUBBAvideos Před 5 lety +93

    The one thing a private aquarium should never have in it is an octopus. They are consciously aware that they are in a tank and will self mutilate if they dont have constant mental stimuli
    (Ps I know it's not a coral but working in a reef shop I get people who tell me they want one)

    • @kabirkhera-gill6294
      @kabirkhera-gill6294 Před 2 lety +1

      That's a myth that only happens If they feel trapped in a tiny aquarium. They need lots of space and hiding places and they barely live over a year they might only accept live food aswell

  • @2pleez122474
    @2pleez122474 Před 5 lety +9

    Hey Than.... Your videos are always so great, well made, well informed and well spoken!! I truly enjoy them. Hope all is well with the new shop now that it’s reaching its ending point. Thanks for all your wonderful content!!

  • @ReefEco
    @ReefEco Před 5 lety +14

    Nice Than - love that you did categories, instead of individual species. Camera work is breathtaking, as always!

  • @InappropriateReefer
    @InappropriateReefer Před 5 lety +45

    Fantastic list and totally went a different direction than I was expecting (thought you were just going to list out 5 corals!). I definitely feel #5, if I have a nickel for each time that I convinced myself to buy a frag as an “investment”... 😂

    • @TheLizardNews
      @TheLizardNews Před 2 lety

      Totally agree! I thought it would be a list of corals people call “trash coral” things like gsp, clove polyps, but this was great! Love your channel too dude! Keep up the great work

  • @scottyd5144
    @scottyd5144 Před 5 lety +1

    Another excellent informational video! I have learned so much from you and your videos and I'm extremely grateful Thanks Than and keep up the great work!!

  • @ronbeatty516
    @ronbeatty516 Před 4 lety +2

    I love the good driver option analogy. It's perfect...it can be applied to so many things. Thanks for the wonderful video.

  • @joshs_random_location
    @joshs_random_location Před 5 lety +11

    Wow this was a very different list then expected!
    I approve!! 👍🐠

  • @TheAnubis80
    @TheAnubis80 Před 5 lety

    Keep these top 5 vids coming. I love watching them. Even if they aren't yours. So full of info.

  • @dusk1947
    @dusk1947 Před 4 lety +3

    As someone just starting out in the wide world of reef tanks, this is the best video I've seen on what I should aspire to grow in my tank. Thank you for the advice

  • @azbigjohn1
    @azbigjohn1 Před 5 lety

    I'm a new subscriber, and I love your videos! Excellent quality video and audio, and interesting content on my main hobby!

  • @NickOrtizCO
    @NickOrtizCO Před 5 lety

    Great video! You always take such a thoughtful approach

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      Thanks Nick, this was a fun video to put together.

  • @Reefgrrl
    @Reefgrrl Před 4 lety +2

    As usual, your approach is fresh and unique: I loved this video! 👍🏻👍🏻 My coral to avoid is the one you can’t resist when your tank is already full and doing well. You end up with your hands in the tank trying to rearrange things, or putting things closer to each other to fit it in, when you know there could be war.

  • @bragilbe12
    @bragilbe12 Před 3 lety +9

    What the heck was that "not a coral" at the beginning of the video?! It was amazing!

  • @michelleirby7587
    @michelleirby7587 Před 5 lety

    Another great video as usual very insightful list great advice for everyone to follow that almost nobody will

  • @xM3THOD1x
    @xM3THOD1x Před 5 lety +1

    Lot of truth here. Than's experience and knowledge show in this vid....I respect it!

  • @MrJarzy2001
    @MrJarzy2001 Před rokem

    Great vid! I didn't expect such a list :) Thought You gonna name 5 corals :)

  • @jaredwood9039
    @jaredwood9039 Před 5 lety

    I concur. Great video. Love the footage. Informative topic.

  • @ChrisSmithCenterline
    @ChrisSmithCenterline Před 5 lety

    Remarkably practical and honest.

  • @RaleyWeGrind
    @RaleyWeGrind Před 5 lety

    Great video. Very informative

  • @kellysreef4614
    @kellysreef4614 Před 5 lety

    Solid advice! good job

  • @aniafish
    @aniafish Před 4 měsíci

    Great advice

  • @davechippendale5668
    @davechippendale5668 Před 4 lety

    Excellent advice.

  • @ScottM
    @ScottM Před 5 lety

    I totally agree with every point you made. Great job Than.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks Scott, glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @Davelembo
    @Davelembo Před 5 lety +6

    Great video . I was literally nodding my head and saying yep the whole time

  • @TattooCrazeInkStudio
    @TattooCrazeInkStudio Před 5 lety +59

    The Coral you must absolutely avoid at all cost, is the one not grown at Tidal Gardens.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +5

      Haha thank you

    • @drewjanes
      @drewjanes Před 5 lety +2

      in Canada avoid Fragbox 3/8 came with aptasia I quarantined for 60 days. got 2 of them but 1 popped up in the display tank after. hiding under the base of coral. I got it but lost 4 pinwheel heads. at 20$ a head and also the stress of it popping up anywhere just isn't worth it.

  • @volteface69
    @volteface69 Před 5 lety

    Magnifique, BRAVO !!! 👍👍👍

  • @calipsosreefs4843
    @calipsosreefs4843 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for ur videos

  • @Flownon
    @Flownon Před 5 lety +8

    "The Hype Machine is Weaponized" is the coolest thing I've heard in a long time. I'm gonna use that!
    The only thing I cringe at when I see it in the store these days is some NPS especially the pretty Gorgs...

  • @RookieReefer
    @RookieReefer Před 5 lety +1

    Stunning footage as always 👌

  • @toesly
    @toesly Před 5 lety +3

    I thought this video would just be a list of bad beginner corals, but this was much more insightful. Thanks :)

  • @Sylvania-Frenchies
    @Sylvania-Frenchies Před 5 lety +1

    Great video brother and advice and truth about Instagram ✊🏽🙏🏽

  • @anchoredreef3427
    @anchoredreef3427 Před 5 lety +6

    Great video....Thats EXACTLY how i feel about this hobby and the animals(corals fit same category 😁) we bring into our homes👍👍👍👍💯✅

  • @matheusMoreirafish
    @matheusMoreirafish Před 5 lety

    Incredible footage 😍

  • @reefboy2558
    @reefboy2558 Před 4 lety +1

    Completely agree with #2 👏👍👌

  • @colouryamud
    @colouryamud Před 5 lety

    Great advice for beginners... sun corals and some seafans were bad choices when I started out but technology was pretty average 20 years ago

  • @thibautmenoux9659
    @thibautmenoux9659 Před 2 lety

    As always, great video, Than! What is the orange, white and black thing that is "not even a coral" that you show in the first section? A kind of a sponge?

  • @sprinklesrevenge9642
    @sprinklesrevenge9642 Před 5 lety +3

    I was curious about the sea apple, thank you 😂

  • @BillyPipes
    @BillyPipes Před 5 lety +1

    Everything about this video was awesome!!!!

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      Thanks Billy! Sorry to hear about your tank leak.

    • @BillyPipes
      @BillyPipes Před 5 lety

      @@tidalgardens thanks Than. Everything is up and running now👍

  • @lordlard2833
    @lordlard2833 Před rokem

    That last bit about the coral you used as a placeholder. Pure gold. 😂

  • @Oxinder
    @Oxinder Před 4 lety +2

    My free coral was a green Rasta leather that was almost dead. Couldn’t find one anywhere and I had one years ago that got about 4’ long. LFS had a small piece that was almost dead. It’s now up to 4 arms and three times the size. In maybe 2 years it will be my center piece

  • @LightSearch
    @LightSearch Před 5 lety

    This is my favorite video I have seen from you. Overflowing in good old common sense.

  • @yourcreativechaos
    @yourcreativechaos Před rokem

    Great video that has the "top 5 things Cara likes to do" all over it! So, what is that colorful thing that "isn't a coral" that you show at the beginning?

  • @bnkohrn
    @bnkohrn Před 5 lety +4

    Loved this video, Than! I got a chuckle from the “Hold my beer” reference for coral #3. It’s a nice remember to plan your system for how you want to enjoy it rather than for making others envious and planning it around showing it off. Thanks for sharing!

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      Social media in general has that effect. If we don't get enough recognition for doing something from the online crowd, we change. It's actually a little scary.

  • @Messier87_M87
    @Messier87_M87 Před 3 lety

    Have you ever heard of Merulina Ampliata? Ive always dreamed of keeping this coral, but i hear it can be extremely difficult.

  • @TheLingrush
    @TheLingrush Před 4 lety +2

    I like that this was not specific corals and geared toward proper selection.

  • @Oklaprepping56
    @Oklaprepping56 Před 10 měsíci

    What are some good one to start out with .

  • @lilolmecj
    @lilolmecj Před 4 lety

    I was given Xenia, it did great for over a year, then I had a catastrophic event, lost most of my Xenia in a 2 week period. I do not know what happened. My Zoas and Kenya trees are fine. I am getting some regrowth, but it is slow.

  • @walterawa4914
    @walterawa4914 Před rokem

    What’s was that in the tank on the #1? Orange creature with white dots?

  • @ArrickthaRed
    @ArrickthaRed Před 5 lety

    Great video. I really like that the list wasn't actual corals but more just traps in the hobby we have all fallen into at one point.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +2

      Thanks! Glad you liked the video. It was a bit of a curve ball.

  • @bluethumbaquaculture6370

    awesome content! thanks for sharing, also @6:28 what is that? pectinia?

  • @jerryebner7582
    @jerryebner7582 Před 5 lety

    Right on point. I find myself more into fish than coral . But I got a few

  • @markf8905
    @markf8905 Před rokem

    What is that white and orange coral at the start of the video?

  • @bbingtube
    @bbingtube Před 5 lety +1

    Back in the early 90s , I worked at an LFS in SC. My first reef was exactly what the owners told me not to get 🤣🤣🤣. I learned hard lessons and feel bad about the graveyard I left behind. Almost in every example, their advice contained wisdom I have subsequently integrated. CZcams is awesome because you can see the same tendencies in newbie reefers. Some wisdom is ego; and some is legit.

  • @jestronixhanderson9898
    @jestronixhanderson9898 Před 5 lety +11

    Probably the worst news for your corner store LFS :) I see it too often, hard to keep corals that keep the customers coming back. There are maybe 80% of reefers that last less than three years in the hobby ? So many rush in and buy these hard to keep corals. It's not a worry for me, I buy almost all my reef equipment secondhand when they have given up :) mostly items have done less than 2 years work :) great honest advice

  • @michaelbalsley6041
    @michaelbalsley6041 Před 5 lety

    Great video!! Is it possible to have a clam and LPS corals being that the light requirements are so different? What could I do if I want both.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +1

      Most LPS aren't going to want to be in that intense of light, but some might be ok with it. If you have modular lighting, you can create a spotlight effect on just the clam perhaps.

    • @horaciohherasq6526
      @horaciohherasq6526 Před 5 lety

      It is quite possible with today's led fixture tech. Actually I have a maxima in my Tanks and many LPS and some SPS. It is healthy and very much alive after 1 year.

  • @Leigh33
    @Leigh33 Před 5 lety +7

    My one to avoid would be a Flame Scallop, as depicted in final shot. They aren't very long lived in captivity and are best left in the wild, as beautiful and fascinating as they are. I had one for months that just perished for no apparent reason one day. Again, should have researched and not impulse bought on first sighting... 🤔🤔

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +1

      If I never see a flame scallop in my tanks ever again I'm good.

    • @Leigh33
      @Leigh33 Před 5 lety

      @@tidalgardens I'm with you on that one... 👍👍

    • @michelleirby7587
      @michelleirby7587 Před 5 lety

      There is such a focus on super low nutrient systems these days that many of these creatures don’t do well because there simply nothing in the water column for them to eat and target feeding just doesn’t always cover the variety of nutrients they require for life

  • @raredanceclassics
    @raredanceclassics Před 4 lety +2

    95% of the 64% of people that think they're good drivers are the kind of people that block the passing lane while going "the speed limit" and think that's just fine because no one else should be speeding anyway.

  • @rugvedkulkarni1593
    @rugvedkulkarni1593 Před 2 lety

    What was that orange and white coral?

  • @nicholasbarone5246
    @nicholasbarone5246 Před 4 lety

    is the thign at 3:00 also a sea apple?

  • @cowabungareefer7094
    @cowabungareefer7094 Před 5 lety

    I’ve definitely fallen trap to #3 😫 Some seem like others are wrong because they are possible to keep when you are paying them attention non stop, but as soon as you fall into the normal care habit they die off

  • @jwlee1059
    @jwlee1059 Před 4 lety

    I am in the research stage.....a new newb. Good video and advice I think.

  • @KreefAquariumhobby
    @KreefAquariumhobby Před 5 lety

    Nice video

  • @retdreams661
    @retdreams661 Před rokem

    @tidal gardens have/can you do a coral car video on a pagoda cup coral?

  • @Oklaprepping56
    @Oklaprepping56 Před 10 měsíci

    Great info I'm just starting out with a salt water tank ...

  • @PatrickJewellTheGreat
    @PatrickJewellTheGreat Před 3 lety +1

    Words of wisdom. Now it’s euphyllia. I actually just got back in the hobby after a 12 year break. I’ve kept up with gear and what light is in vogue, but shocked to see euphyllia prices. Even the run of the mill wall hammer is double maybe triple the prices.

    • @fishfan2
      @fishfan2 Před 3 lety

      I mean it is easy to keep and nice looking

  • @TechGearTalk
    @TechGearTalk Před 5 lety +5

    first minute and I'm all about this video. Great concept Than!!! Super helpful and should save people tons of money and time.

  • @mrsuarez430
    @mrsuarez430 Před 26 dny

    Been doing this for 30 years start with zoas and greenfinger leather and stars leave a good space in the center wait for 2 years if your tanks stable and mature then do montis Duncan's acro chalice ect then wait a year or two move on to the expensive showpiece on the space in the center ... You might have to trim that green finger cause that shits huge 😂 and takes up half the tank.. BTW great vid agree with you %1000

  • @ak_reefs4023
    @ak_reefs4023 Před 5 lety

    Great Video and reminder to a 10+ year Reefer that can still get sucked in occasionally by the highly photoshopped color gambit of coral photography. You know somethings not right when the black egg crate in the photo looks orange! If the coral pictured has a totally black background, there’s no way I’m going to buy it.
    Don’t forget the “Live Sale” corals. The illusion of “you’ll never get one for $40 again if you don’t get it now (unless you wait til our live sale next month when it’s $35) “ and also the Live Sale coral “Winner/ Top Dog” feeling that you beat everybody to a coral you don’t have room for anyway....

  • @mostlyreefs710
    @mostlyreefs710 Před 5 lety

    Great list and just vague enough. I wish I had more thumbs to give.

  • @JyB818
    @JyB818 Před 3 lety +1

    So what is the orange, white and black thing at the beginning? 0:25

  • @whokilledmercy1497
    @whokilledmercy1497 Před 5 lety +1

    What’s the corals name at 6:27 ?

  • @firebirdude2
    @firebirdude2 Před 4 lety +2

    5:48 but plated monti doesn't start randomly popping up across the tank/in the sump like Xenia does. X-D

  • @Reject06
    @Reject06 Před 5 lety +2

    Hold muh beer!! 😂

  • @Hydrocarbon7
    @Hydrocarbon7 Před 3 lety

    Totally understand the “because it’s free” bit. I also collect specialty lava lamps, so everyone wants to give me their unwanted lamps. I will take and test them, but if they don’t make the cut, they’re off to the thrift store.

  • @rupply
    @rupply Před rokem

    anyone know what the first non-coral thing is?

  • @drewjanes
    @drewjanes Před 5 lety

    awe but I really wanted it. lol. are dendrophylia okay. I understand they are nonphoto would feeding mysis once a day be enough?
    great video... again. Thanks

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      It probably will take more food than that. I try to feed Tubastrea and Dendrophyllia a few times a day. Several small feedings tend to work better for me than one big feeding each day.

    • @drewjanes
      @drewjanes Před 5 lety

      okay good to know. when I got my tank it came with a few odds and ends. I was told to feed the tube anemone about an inch of thawed frozen clams silversides giant mysis um squid... ect I feed it 2-3 times a week. plus it catches reg mysis and reef frenzy daily. it's doing well. any advise?

  • @themulletedaquarist4232

    What is the first coral he showed

  • @edson.jerez1982
    @edson.jerez1982 Před 5 lety

    Do you own an orange spoted filefish? I saw one on the footage!

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +1

      No that's my friend Nathan's tank. I've done a few videos of his tank over the years if you want to check it out.

  • @scroob72
    @scroob72 Před rokem

    So so true! Instagram/Twitter are what you steer away from. These folks don't know your conditions, water perameters, environment, expenses, ect. Do you and don't worry about anyone else.

  • @uhohhotdog
    @uhohhotdog Před 5 lety

    So are there any coral that don’t require special care that won’t overgrow my tank real fast?

  • @Kevkevkev763
    @Kevkevkev763 Před 5 lety

    The quality of this video is insane

  • @Unclephillscritters
    @Unclephillscritters Před 2 lety

    Maybe someone already asked this, but what is the animal shown at :28 that is 'not even a coral!'? It is very interesting.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon Před 2 lety

    Its 2022 and Euphyllia is up 1000% in price. Glad I did my Euphy tank 8 years ago! Actually, here in Europe we have the morphs but not yet the prices. Now, where are all the clams?

  • @ReefDudes
    @ReefDudes Před 5 lety +1

    What do you mean I can’t keep anything?! Haha. Great tips!

  • @naimbeats
    @naimbeats Před 5 lety +1

    🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @cole147
    @cole147 Před 10 měsíci

    What is the first one shown? The orange and white?

    • @CommonBasedYoutubeEnjoyer
      @CommonBasedYoutubeEnjoyer Před 9 měsíci

      its a leache's ascidians, not a coral at all, its like a bunch of animals regrouped in that orange skin

  • @Yarky1
    @Yarky1 Před 4 lety

    What is the white and orange thing of the beginning?

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 4 lety

      Tunicates: czcams.com/video/luWibG1opD8/video.html

    • @Yarky1
      @Yarky1 Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot!

  • @s65sung
    @s65sung Před 5 lety +1

    I would say literally anything that looks like a coral but isn’t a coral is something one should avoid putting in their tank long term. I’m talking about things like rare sponges (spider sponge, ball sponge), rare tunicates, flame scallops, maxima clams, common feather dusters, and most important of all: your hand!!
    The more you use your hand to mess around with stuff that affects your tank, the things inside the tank wouldn’t do as well as if you just left things the way it is

  • @infamoushiphop7943
    @infamoushiphop7943 Před 4 lety

    Lol i love how you used turnicates for #1

  • @mahmoudtaha7245
    @mahmoudtaha7245 Před 4 lety

    Take it easy man !

  • @ricosaquariums7992
    @ricosaquariums7992 Před 5 lety +1

    👊👍

  • @colossuses
    @colossuses Před 5 lety +1

    Great video. One of your best. More like five reasons to avoid corals. How about another one for 5 actual corals newbies should avoid👍🏿

  • @demersal5748
    @demersal5748 Před 2 lety

    I like how "the coral you've never researched" was actually just tunicates.

  • @Jisko
    @Jisko Před 5 lety +3

    Plate corals and gonipora never seem to last long term for me :/

    • @CloudDayLight
      @CloudDayLight Před 5 lety

      Plating montipora?

    • @Jisko
      @Jisko Před 5 lety

      @@CloudDayLight no fungi plate coral

  • @i3lului311
    @i3lului311 Před rokem

    HELPPP what's the shell looking coral in the middle at 8:50

  • @Alek.Bannerman
    @Alek.Bannerman Před 5 lety

    what kind of fish is that at 8:47? very good quality video!

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety

      Orange Spot File Fish

    • @williamstynes9882
      @williamstynes9882 Před 4 lety

      Tidal Gardens at 1:16? Great video been a good guidelines to follow and great footage!👍

  • @SavageDragon999
    @SavageDragon999 Před 5 lety +1

    Wait. So what actually is the orange white thing at the beginning of the vid?

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +2

      Those are tunicates. I did a video on them a little while back you can check out. They are very beautiful and very interesting but the really pretty ones don't do well in home aquariums.

  • @SimplyReefing
    @SimplyReefing Před 5 lety +4

    Great info for new people. Don’t buy a coral just cause it has a cool name.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 5 lety +1

      Believe it or not that is the #1 question we receive about any coral. "What is the name of that one?"

  • @JAMcDonald1
    @JAMcDonald1 Před 5 lety

    Sound advice.