Shears vs Nibblers, When and Where to Use Them
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Shears Vs Nibblers!! Because I was asked so many questions over on my Instagram, I decided to make a little bit of a longer form video that I can reference for people. I am showing the best use of the Milwaukee double cut shear as well as the Makita Nibbler. This might not be useful to you, but you never know. Share with someone who does metal work and maybe they will be able to decide when and where to use shears vs nibblers.
You can of course cut metal a million ways with many different tools. This is how we have found the best way to do it so far. Please feel free to share your tips and tricks in the comments and I will check them out.
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Had the pleasure of meeting Kyle yesterday, big honor for me, Just a super guy who took time out of his busy day to chat for a few minutes. Made my day. Thanks Kyle
As a metal roof plumber, I find the single sided Milwaukee shears are the fastest way to cut sheets. Keep your waste side of material on the right hand side of your cut so no oil pan issue 👍🏼
Thanks for explaining in detail the difference between double cut and single cut. Most others just say it's "cleaner" and/or quicker, but do not say in what way.
Great explanation of the various cutters. I purchased a double cut shears and was very frustrated going over the high spots.the nibbler was impressive even if it does produce some waste. Thanks for the video,it was very helpful.
Used very similar tools working in a body shop years ago. The main difference was the tools I used were pneumatic tools vs corded or cordless. Both tools (Shears and nibblers) had issues. I would hope after all these years some of the issues these tools suffered from have been resolved. The issues the airtools suffered from were of course water in the air lines and issues that had to do with the thickness of the metal. We didn't always have the correct gauge of steel for what we were trying to do. Any way great stuff. Thumbs up as usual.
Thanks for taking the time to show, the different cutters used on the same application. I'm going to go buy a nibbeler right now to cut some roofing panels, like the ones you just showed. Thank you!
I really like your videos. I got my contractors license last year to officially be able to build horse barns. Great info on everything. Thank you
I absolutely love those snips. They were a leave-behind from a scab laborer, I’ve had them for 5+ years use them every day never needed sharpened
Great video!! It's so strange watching you're work vs. Where I live (oregon) posts set in ground vs. yours on brackets. Almost every, not all, builders I work with are still using saws and reverse finish blades and/or grinding wheels for steel. But you've convinced me on nibblers and shears. Thanks.
Thanks for helping an amateur like me get reasonable results on my silo house build. 👍🏼
I’m just starting out in this game...the hard thing with this type of situation is not only was I interested in buying a nibbler for this upcoming roof job, but now I want double cut shears hahahaha
Super helpful video, thanks! :) Was just considering getting one these tools, this was super helpful to figure out what each of them do.
4 years later this video really helped me, thank you sir.
Years ago B&D made a rotary shear that worked awesome went over the ribs as fast as the flats on pole barn metal , built over 80 buildings and used the hell out of them !
Prepping to diy re-roof a 3k sq ft shed roof barn. This is helpful. Thank you!
Thanks allot. I'm just learning enough to trim out my own shop. And at this point its gonna look way better with your help then of I'd done it alone for
Nice, informative presentation. Very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks, this was very helpful in showcasing the difference between a nibbler and a shear.
waited 8 minutes to discover he didnt have the right tool to demonstrate the 7 minute introductory build up
Great video. You have answered a question I have had for ages. Thank you.
Thanks for that information session. I'm building my first and hopefully last shed. I'm getting a nibbler.
Very nice video and very interesting experience analysis. The nibbler is comparatively more expensive that shears. Many thanks.
To recap: nibbler for "crosscuts" and the double shear are for the "ripcuts"
Thank you for demonstrating all the different clippers.
This was perfect. The exact ribbed panel application I need to tackle.
Tools like this would be so handy. When doing the metal siding and roofing on my shop, I used cheap hand snips and a metal blade on a skil saw. Let me tell you, these tools would have made my life so much easier. Work smarter, not harder right? Lesson learned for next time
There is an attachment that goes on the end of the drill. It's shaped like hand snips. We use it for all angle and cross cuts. Works real good.
Where did you buy it? I'm doing ,my roof soon and don't need one of these expensive tools for one job, but i'd like to be able to cut angles quicker than shears. Thanks!
In regards to the “safety police” comment you made, I want to tell you what one of my carpentry students told me the other day. He didn’t have his safeties on, but he told me he had his safety contacts in. Had a good chuckle and he put glasses on.
I've always had a problem using power shears over the ribs, it can be done but it takes time. I find cutting angles on steel roofing is also a major pain. Indeed a nibblers would be better but the overall cost vs the amount of work for me isn't a good option. Good video Kyle!
We have always used carbide finish blades in a skill saw to cut the metal. I makes a terrific noise but it super quick. Blades don't last that long but it's fast. We always cut from the back side of course. All the nibbles I've used were terribly slow. Never tried a shear.
Very helpful...I just bought a nibbler you just told me best Wat to use it...
Question for you, what would you recommend for cutting 6061T6 aluminum sheets (Think Airstream skins - clean edges are a must) Thanks and keep the great content coming
Very helpful, I got a cheap and cheerful nibbler, I was using it wrong. There's two different heads with it, I know one is the same as you have here, the other not sure
When I used the double cut sheer think brand is Malco, even with 26G it leaves waves in metal, does the nibbler do the same? Especially length cuts. Which do u recommend the hitachi or the makita? Any recommendations for a metal brake with cut-off which officially handles 26G? Got a demo on a Tapco that states 26G capacity but hem and cutoff were not impressive.
Thanks for the info Kyle.
yeah been doing metal roofs for years always put off buying the nibblers(Just cut by hand for crosscut or angles)always had the double cut shears.... but now I'm looking at a 23gauge roofing that may need some cross cuts and holes. So this has been helpful. Edit: looking at the price I remember why I've avoided buying this long...Probably be able to find a corded version at a lower price. If you have a recommendation I'm all ears. Thanks!
Hey Man. Bloody roofing eh?! If only a tool existed for cutting angles fast and any profile as well
Do the nibblers work well doing an angle cut across the ribs for like a valley ?
With the shear cutter can you cut in shapes? Like circle or wave? Or it only cuts straight? And how do you cut a metal that is enclosed like a can or drum cylinder? Do you gotta punch a hole first to give clearance for a cutter to start cutting?
Give the broken one to AVE!!!!!!! He has an awesome tool channel.
Yer, he’ll break it even more and never put it back the way it was 😆
Appreciate this comparison..... thanks:)
Have you used the regular Metabo HPT nibbler? How does it compare to the expensive one?
Used to use heavy duty nibblers for cutting 8mm steel plate off of 5000lb coils, they're badass.
Really helpful bud, thanks!
an awesome informative comparison, thanks Kyle... just a quick question; which one (nibbler or shear) would you recommend to cut roof sheets to minimize steel exposure that would ultimately cause rust? or do both expose the bare metal of sheets too much, and would cause rust eventually anyway?
Great video mate, very helpful. Thanks
What is the best tool to use for opening the top of a steel drum?
Very helpful, thanks
Curious if you have tried the drill attachment shears or nibblers? Obviously the price point is a lot better for attachments, but does it perform even nearly as well. The CaNibble seems to be one of the better nibblers.
I’m a metal roofer in Australia and we use the double cut sheers 95% of the time and only use the nibbles on to cut the valley.
Only because the nibbled keeps the little metals that will make a roof rust ( to much of a hassle to clean )
Is the double cut good for angle cut on corri?
Have you ever used a nibler to cut klip lock?
What do you recommend for cutting plastic roofing sheets?
Still waiting for a video showing how to cut ribbed panels for the valleys. It was very hard for me to cut the ribs and having them straight. The overlaps really show that problem. Tried snips, and nibbler
Best video I've seen on metal.cutting options. Thank you!
Wish you had mentioned something about oiling with these things. Still looking for some info on that.
Thumbs up!
Is there a shear for a more ticker sheet for around 2.3mm
Thanks man, yes, that was very helpful!!!! :)
Sounds as though something got into the gear that turns the fan and caused it to strip, so that the motor turned as the gear was being jammed or interrupted from proper movement. Small little plastic gears can have that happen, recently had the same problem with my garage door motor.
They don’t get ruined altogether immediately but like everything that strips out, it strips a little then self-strips that point forward & eventually the gear doesnt catch at all
woudl is the metal gauge of a standard 55 gsllon steel drum and would 14 gauge electric shears cut it?
Of these three methods the nibbler is best for taking some off the overhang?
You da' man.Great company.
Great video. Thanks
I love my Hitachi/Metabo HPT nibbler
I love my shear. Got the one with the blue head, rated for 14 gauge. Just ordered a hilti nibbler:)
how is the Hilti nibbler now?
@@hanstiny2416 I don't use it all that much on account of how messy it is but it works great when you need it. Just makes too many metal moons for everyday use. Pretty much running all Hilti now, great tools, you get what you pay for
Do you think nice nibbler could cut out a square in a truck bed for the fuel pump
IS THE DBL CUT GOOD FOR ANGLE CUTTING ON CORRUGATED ROOFS
Does the nibbler work well in following a chalkline?
Extremely Helpful
Why dnt you use a metal cutting saw with a diablo metal demon they come in all sizes and for different material such as thin metal roofing specifically just curious
I’ve Got the Makita nibler.. Well 99% of my battery tool are Makita.
Same type 18v battery for all. I just love Makita. What can I say. 🥰
Okay, my impact bits are Milwaukee.. 😁
Can you use the Nibler to do a circle?
Hey yo! Canelito is back! Yeah boy!
I bought a nibbler for siding and it works great but i work on tractor trailers also the nibbler doesn't work for the trailer roofs that are made of aluminum do yoy think that the sheers will work lot of money for someone if it doesn't work
Should have showed the razor knife trick , good tips though ✌️
This was VERY helpful to me. Thanks so much!!!
I had to cut sheetmetal from the bed of my Ranchero...rusted, nearly 50 year old steel. Not the thoughest. Nibblers didnt do squat, angle grinder was too big (although I did most of the cutting with it), the Dremel is a joke...so I ended up using a chisel and a hammer (no joke) and Vampliers to pull and bend.
Yes, it came down to those ancient ways lol. I just returned a nibbler that could not do the work. (and that will be in one of my upcoming posts here)
Great video! I need to cut a square hole on my van rooftop to install a fan. Do you recommend the power sheer tool? How does it work at the corners when cutting a square hole?
I have the exact same question!
What is the Measurement of your wainscoting?
I wish you had mentioned circular cutouts and shapes. (Around Stovepipe, chimneys, ductwork, round windows, etc)
I always repair tools myself if possible and if it financially makes sense, if its a dewalt with a burnt out motor i send it in with dewalts “guarantee repair cost” where they go over the tool if repairs are over guaranteed price they replace it for that price that is usually around $90 for a cordless drill what is nice cause who doesn’t like a new drill at that price
hey kyle, love the shop bro!!!!!!!!!!! I enjoy all your videos, and dam you invest a lot of time into others to learn and enjoy. Keep up the good work and don't forget to tell greg and Zach that I enjoy therehard work as well. I didn't see a video on wether you were a bigger fan of the Milwaukee framing nailer or the metabo framing nailer? thanks,shane
I’ll let you know when I have some time with the Milwaukee framer
Which nibbler do you consider to be the best buy, Makita or Metabo?
Hi Kyle! Which tool would you recommend for cutting 1/8” copper sheet into circles of 6 to 9 inches?
Single cut would be good but as Kyle said one edge of your material would be wavy. Go slow with it and your good peice should turn out good. Offset snips would be good too if you don't need to make a lot of them. I prefer malco max 2000 for offsets. Don't cheap out, get malco, Bessey or Midwest. 60 bucks a pair but my first set of malcos are still kicking 5 years later.
1/8 is kinda thick though. I don't have much experience with copper but it's fairly soft so I think snips might do the trick, again if you don't need to make a lot of them
Can you use a nibbler to cut conduit
Idea….. I been looking for a video on changing the 18v Mikita nibbler anvil. That would make a good video.
What happened to the bathroom remodel? Are you still working on it?
I had to put my sunglasses becouse of you bright top lol.
For straight cuts it's hard to beat a circ saw. easy to hold a line and REALLY fast. LOUD though.
With the shear cutter can you cut in different shapes? Or does it only cut straight line?
@@noobz5056 Depends on how tight the curves are. If you need to cut tight curves, a nibbler is probably the tool for you. They can go in any direction. Double cut shears can do gentle curves, but the thicker the metal the more difficult and wider the curves. I don't have any power single cut shears, but would guess they would cut well in one direction but not the other like manual shears. There are videos on hear to search. Also, you can do a lot with an angle grinder and cutoff wheel or a jigsaw too. You just need to use relief cuts to break the cut down into segments so the blade has room to turn.
@@mikemorgan5015 Thanks! Sounds like the angle grinder would be the way to go! I'm planning on building a wood stove out of a metal drum barrel.. Can angle grinder slap on to a drill as an addon?
@@noobz5056 Yes, but it will be VERY slow and much more dangerous. Drills don't spin fast enough and the moment of rotation is not in line with the tool. It will want to slip out of the cut and twist back toward you. Drill attachments also don't generally have any guard. If you are on a tight budget, you can get a cheap angle grinder for ten bucks at some un-named tool stores. If you have some cash, I don't recommend going that route if you want to have a tool for future use. You get what you pay for. Make sure you use eye and hearing protection and make sure the sparks are going in a safe direction. Also make sure the barrels are completely purged of any flammables.
The single cut shears are the go mate. Its all we use in Australia
You guy all use corrugated over there. It’s a little different to cut
Would it cut through galvanised steel water tank
information appreciated....
one downfall of the nibbler is those half moon niblets,,,they suck if they get in your sock and are not good for dogs or bare feet and are impossible to clean up without a magnet and you never get them all.
I converted a 1960s tile cutter and used a carbide blade. Like cutting paper
I was hoping for a good clear youtube clip just like this, explaining why grinders are not the tool to use.
As a licenced roofer (carpenter by trade) I have built many rooves.
The neighbour is getting some tin replaced and the guy doing it is using a 9" angle grinder. His truck says builder but I reckon he got his ticket out of a cornflake box.
When I was contracted to BHP the colorbond (do you call it that in the US?) had to have a guillotine cut or the warrenty is void. An angle ground edge has more than 10× the surface area and that creates faster rusting out on edges (even if you paint them).
Do you, per chance, have a clip or instagram that covers this topic?
Thank you for this clip. I bet it helps heaps of people.
The right tool for the job.
Save time, effort and money and get a better quality all for less than $300.00
All the tin I see you cut with the nibbler is the fastener showing, do you have experience using the nibbler on a hidden fastener standing seem? The ribs are way slimmer and taller, honestly only thing I've found is tape and a hacksaw for a cleaner cut, please show me the way!
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We use the DeWalt shear impact attachment to tear down swimming pools.
What about circles in metal ceiling tiles.
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I’ve always used a circular saw with any old blade, grinde the teeth curf thin. And wear earMUFFs a face sheild and gloves and long sleeves.
Or don’t if you like tinnitus and picking out chips of steel from skin.
I enjoy my Makita Nibbler great tool.
Can you cut 16 gauge
@@jacobgreen6939 I’m not sure now what gauge 29 or so gauge Menards steel is but I’ve cut that. 16 I’m thinking might be a stretch. Works good to cut the lower air damn plastic on a superduty too lol
Not really sure what video to post this question on, so im just going to throw it out there. I'm really wanting to build my post frame. The biggest expense I'm seeing is all the log chains. I'm wondering if there is an other option. I haven't priced cable and clamps, turn buckles. What would be your suggestion? Or just suck it up and get them?
Kyle's way of plumbing and squaring up a structure is amazing because it's fairly quick while being simple, accurate and repeatable, but expensive. You have to understand that time is money and for him it totally makes sense because he is going to use them multiple times a month. Guys like me are looking to build 1 shop. Which equals not cost effective. You can do the same thing with wedge/kicker boards, it's just more time consuming and a little tougher to get dead on the money but can be done. Hopefully he replies but I believe he would agree.
I agree with what you've said. I've ballooned framed homes 25 years. I used the kicker method. I'll will be buying some chains for sure do to needing them on the farm anyway. I'm not a big fan of kickers into gravel. If I pour footers and slab then I'd have more confidence in kickers.
Any tips for maintaining a straight line with a nibbler? I find it a lot harder to be accurate than a shears. Even across the ribs.
Its all about how you scribe the line.
the more you use the nibbler the better your accuracy will get. I always make sure I have a slightly loose grip on the tool and no stop and go movements. Once you get a good flow it will work great for you