How to cut metal - Toolsday
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- This weeks toolsday video is all about how to cut metal and what tools we use daily to achieve the best cut on site. There are many different ways, and different tools that you can use to achieve the same end result... I just show you what tool I like the best for each application. Also make sure you stick around for the end...there is some bonus footage.
The Tools featured:
Midwest Snips $42: goo.gl/4ZgYsd
Milwaukee double cut shear kit $400: goo.gl/HZcWKa
Milwaukee single cut shear kit $478: goo.gl/Gqj9ok
Ridgid JobMax $262: goo.gl/EBNyPn
Hitachi shear $329: goo.gl/N7g66B
makita nibbler $308: goo.gl/x2axCv
hitachi nibbler $329: goo.gl/5YQzsW
swenson shear: goo.gl/y6f4j8
milwaukee cut gloves: goo.gl/37cSkU
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With Ryan's czcams.com/users/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
This is an old video, but likely the best one I've seen to explain machine, cut quality, material-tool matching and no fluff - thanks very much
You need to check out a magnetic chip brush. Looks like a stainless steel baton with a plastic handle with a very strong magnet inside. Once you have waved it over a surface and it fills up with chips, you pull on a plunger pulling the magnet into the handle, dumping all the metal chips.
Is also available in long versions.
With this you can easily clear a large surface of any magnetic metal.
Works great for finding lost screws and bolts, even in grass.
NoC great idea thanks
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Been shearing back metal roofing for many years, in preparation for gutter installation. Have all of these tools in my arsenal, but it is only recently that I purchased nibblers. I can honestly kick myself in the butt for not buying them sooner!
lionelhernandez34 yeah man they are awesome.
The roofing company I worked for in Hawaii used niblers and the double blade. Hilo Hawaii averages 130ish inches of rain per year. Corrugated roofing is a must. Niblers does a great job.
Love the nibbler!! I have a design for a device( funnel shaped ) that dangles below the end of the nibbler below the metal. I can attach a vacuum if needed and not a nibble falls to the ground!!! One nibble in the boot was enough!!! Oh and by the way...Patent pending!!!
Got a link on your invention?
Thought of adding a magnet?
Hitachi/Metabo HPT have so many really useful trade tools
I have a nibbler fitting for my power drill - a bit more awkward to work with than a purpose-built machine, but it cuts nicely.
One thing you do want with a nibbler is a good workshop magnet to sweep up the bits afterwards. It spits out a stream of very sharp metal fragments, and they don't rust out in a hurry. It's much better to clean them up than be picking them out of your boot soles twelve months later - or your kids' bare feet.
This vid definitely needs a workshop magnet demo to round it out.
My dad and I just put steel roofing and siding on our shed and we bought a shear attachment for a driver that works great
The nibbler is a very useful tool, but yeah the nibblets are not fun to clean up.
I find a strong magnet wrapped up in a plastic bag is great for picking them up from the jobsite, you run the magnet around the ground or floor and when you are done, just remove the plastic bag, and the nibblets are now in the bag. You also have to watch out with the nibblets with pets around, especially dogs, they can easily get stuck into your dog's paws.
Love the videos, you do very nice work!
Cheers from Tokyo!
Great idea!
informative video, on the Swenson shear, a contractor friend of mine who does a lot of boat house Hip Roof construction, has the 5/12 pitch blade, and cuts his whole roof on the ground. super fast and to the hip/valley pitches....he owns several different pitch blades
Chris Harriman pretty sweet isn’t it. I have a 4/12 pitch blade too
I was thinking that tool would be way cooler with an angled blade for pitches! That must be sweet.
Nice comparison of the various types of cutters. That last one is insanely cool.
PS: About thirty years ago Black and Decker made what looked like their homeowner (the green painted model) version of a jig saw. Instead of a blade it had two opposing wheels that did the cutting. Went through any profile of steel roofing perfectly. The wheels were replaceable as well. Of course it worked so well they quit making them almost immediately. Sure wish someone else would come out with that design. They were far from expensive and worked like a dream although they were from the corded era. Doug
Yes, those were excellent. Fast, smooth, no mess. Like you said , must have worked too well.
HVAC installer and the double cuts and nibblers are freakin awesome... I do a lot of work on heavy gauge air handlers and would probably have destroyed my hands and wrists by now without them.
The Hilti nibbler also started my treck to switch to Hilti...
They do make circular hand saws for cutting metal now. A lot quicker than the tools you displayed, only they leave metal shavings/chips. Also a jig saw works well.
Thank you for the demo's. I am a 76 yr, lady the received a small mig welder for crafts for a present. Was curious about cutting metal, bought a nibbler. After watching this show n tell I realize I picked the right tool. Thanks a bunch!!
Love the channel; thought I'd share a tool that is no longer available but was still works great. Over forty years ago I went to trade school for HVAC and my first job, had me doing a lot of ductwork. I had the usual set of tin snips, right, left and straight cut. Then while at Sears when they had their Good, Better, Best, tools, I can across a 'Pro' tool that was based on a heavy-duty Jig Saw, it had two interchangeable heads, a single cut head, and a nibbler head. I bought it and I still have that thing and it still cuts, though I have had to order replacement blades years ago. Being designed from a jigsaw, it had a comfortable handle, with the motor between your hand and the spiral the shear head curls up. I'm amazed that with all the cordless power tools, no one had thought to use those old designed to protect to tradesman's hands.
..nice tools for steel, remember back in 70aguy used a 7/14in. Saw with the blade backwards it cut ,was loud made tiny hot chips,was in no way like your tools ,great tools and video!
I have a nobler and cut all kinds of material , it does well. I also use a couple of bar pickup magnets on a pole for cleaning the floor. Use a couple of 2x4 for spacing. It catches most all of the scrap as well as the really fine shavings that wind in your shoes
I take the pole off and use between the 2x
Your video production is top notch! Nice review, great explanations and hands on demo.
Jim Jenkins thank you
Last year I never heard of a nibbler but now I have one I wish I had it 10years ago. I only have the drill attachment one not the dedicated one but still works well on a cordless drill and only £35
I really appreciate your video!! I'm a senior woman and learning DIY. You give a lot of excellent information explained in a clear and concise way, and it makes my choices much much easier! Thank you!
This video is perfect timing. I feel like I'm getting carpal tunnel in my right hand from cutting coils non stop with shears. Showing my boss this video and ordering a set. Video answered all the questions i had.
ben wilson awesome to hear
In the aircraft industry, air operated hand held routers are used for sheet metal pattern cutting. A 25,000 rpm router bit has no conscience and leaves no burrs. Keep fingers away.
If I had a number of sheets of corrugated metal that all needed to be trimmer to the same length, I'd use an abrasive blade in a circular saw and be done with it.
Nibblers work good for cutting holes for chimneys or other larger diameter holes in sheet stock.
Thanks mate. Answered the question I have been asking for a long time. A nibbler is best for my sort of work and I already have Makita stuff so easy decision.
Great info! Few years ago I had to add lots of windows to a "high" profile commercial building. I used the double cut shears. Work great for flats....I made it work over the profile., but barely. Should have got the nibblers to. I would like to see how guys are making windows water tight. A lot of thought went into this as I could not have the water running down the inside of the panel and soaking insulation. Keep up the good work. Stay safe up there.
yep and the wet insulation takes forever to dry out and then the panel rust through from the inside, a real headache.
I have to give respect when it's due and man you have saved my ass on several occasions so thank you!
The double cut shear can go over ribs as long as you’re going straight across them but going at an angle you’ll never get it over. Those nibblers look awesome! I need one! A powerful magnet to clean up the shavings would probably be handy
Thanks very much. Helped me decide what to buy for my garage install.
The hikoki nibblers look like they can do a good job on corrugated iron.
They changed the name to custom orb years ago although it's the same product. Using
A cold cut saw on sheeting needs plenty support. I would need to make a special table with an area where the backing has a gap and supported both sides and
Well clamped. Very noisy doing it that way.
Kyle's right that these nibblets get everywhere. Nothing worse the coming home and popping of my shoes and seeing a trail of them on the carpet behind me.
I have a wand I made of strong magnets surrounded by thin-wall 1" square aluminum pipe that I can lay underneath the cut to catch them. And then I can wave the wand around to pick up those the magnet missed on the drop. One could even make one long enough to fit the width of one of these panels.
Inside the aluminum pipe is a piece of wood with round holes drilled deep enough with a Forstner bit to hold the magnets in place, and then the piece of wood with the magnets is slid inside the pipe and held in place with a single screw.
My next big-money adventure is to invent a wand that works on aluminum nibblets.
"Toolsdays' Just Genius Kyle. Simple As. Keep up the great work. All the best from North London UK.
Awesome review! I pulled a niblet out of my fn knee while driving down thw road the other day lol. Cool tool but is a mess!!👍👍👍👍👍
Nibbler looks much better than the backwards plywood blade I've used in the past.
Lewis Renovation yes haha
Love the nibbles but that cleanup is hell and sharp!
ExportedAfrican I suggest you get a handheld roofing magnet. It’s a breeze cleaning up the nibbles with.
After this vid i know i know wat to use and wen! Thank , it helpt me a lot 👍👍
Hello from the UK thank you for making a great informative video 👍👍
I only started working with metal roofing a year ago as a side job building lean-to-carport structures and all I had were snips and a grinder with a cutoff wheel. It worked but most of these tools are going on the wish list. Great video.
Well a nibbler is getting added to the wishlist. We don’t cut metal often just when repairing building siding but man do I wish we had it over just using snips in the past!
The nibblers are so nice. I got to use a Hilti that belonged to the steel erecters. Just so much easier to use than the shears. Great video Kyle. Thanks for the demo.
This was a very educational video about what not to invest your money in you can do all this with a skill saw and don't none of it show you how to cut a good angle for hip valley roof inside we build cut tables out of wood I can cut angles on a wood cut table I have all kinds of tricks I'm about to build a cut table out of wood where you can cut your angles with a skill saw you just have to put tape on the bottom so you don't scratch the metal you have to use 16 ft long 2x4s if you got something longer for bigger panels that's good you may have to use up to four star horses but I'm about to build this table and post this video but this is a very good video and I appreciate the education
FANTASTIC , THANKS FOR INVENTORS AND PRESENTER .
Very nice video lots of good information! Good work as always
*Been waiting😉 to get one for awhile **MyBest.Tools** Love it and easy to use. Braced pieces and ran thru on edges. Solid😄😄product. Still using my hand💯 planer.*
I love watching your videos
Very interesting. I have a set of air nibblers in the drawer but just because of the mess and the damage the cuttings do to the finished surface I didn't even consider them. Just did a job with standing seam on the roof and the exposed fastener on the sidewalls. All needed to be crosscut on the job and I just have not found a tool that can handle it and can do it without distorting. I can't think of anything but a floor shear which is certainly not affordable or portable. I used the corded Milwaukee coldcut saw (circular) and was very unhappy with it. Not only did it make the cut line invisible but it ground its swarf into the finished panel scratching the paint horribly as well as starting rust from the particles laying on the panels. It does catch most in the container on the saw but enough gets by to really ruin the job. On blind cuts it really sucks not to be able to see the blade while every cut has a slight burr to it (perfect for rust to form). It also ate blades pretty fast. Something about the corrugations tend to chip the carbide. Took two blades to do a job consisting of about 2200 sq ft. My corded Grizzly snips were good for ripping panels but not if you needed to cut on the side of a peak or valley. Bought a set of Malco shears that attach to your drill motor and although advertised for roofing they could not do the peaks and valleys of a cross cut in either profile. Sent them back as they were terrible. The head swiveled without being able to lock down so a long cut needed four hands to hold and drive the tool while grasping the head to keep it going in the right direction. So my question would be, aside from the floor shears what do you use when doing many cross cuts on panels at the job site? Can't be the nibbler just because of those cuttings. Not only do they scratch up the job but think what the client's reaction is when they show up in pet's feet and inside on the carpets!! Cleaning them up entirely would be impossible (I have done small jobs over a garbage can on a tarp and still found them in lots of places). Looking forward to hearing your solution then running out and buying it! Tired of scratched paint, having to spray it and work in wet paint. Take care. Doug
Thanks, I got lots of tools. nice to learn
My Hardie board shears has the same kind of double cut mechanism as your double cut shears. I point this out because the blade can be flipped on the short axis. So basically there are two blade sets in the mechanism. This is not readily apparent from looking at the tool. It's similar to some jointers that allow you to flip the blades on the long axis.
Very informative video. I learned some new stuff.
buy a big harbor freight magnet and cut over it if you are on a bench or just put it on the ground under the cutting area it will catch a lot of the niblets if they are steel. Those things will ruin a wood floor in your house if you don't dig them out of your soles.
Go check out malco max 2000 hand snips reds, greens and straights. They are by far the best clean cuts sharp snips and they fit in the hand great. You will 100 percent not regret it. I know it’s something so small but makes a heck of a difference.
I have the regular aviation snips at school plus a nibbler. It's perfect for corrugated iron. I think we also have a power shear, not sure.
I love that brute force guillotine for the custom sheet cutting.
5:18 ".....after I got rid of my old lady, I also fell in love with a Hitachi shear" 😍😍😍😍
very informative! keep the toolsday's coming
It looks like my last comment has not had much traffic since that entry. However ... Kyle, you implied you read these and sometimes learn from them so I am hoping what I key next is of value to your followers. First, in the video to which these comments are attached, which has been incredibly helpful to me, you demonstrate a nibbler tool after some shearing tools. Sadly, in my case, nothing was specifically stated about the limitations of a nibbler that does not have the wide-angle access that is visibly obvious in the two nibblers you held up, or the one you used to do the "nibbling."
Not knowing what the specific benefit of that wide-angle access actually allows, I bought an air-powered nibbler that works fairly well on "flat stock," but it absolutely could not go over any surface that was not flat ... like the formed wall or roof panels you cut with the nibbler. That limitation was easy to see once I tried to use it! Its access point is a narrow "slot" through which the flat stock can easily pass, but it does not allow (limits) any hope of passing up, over, or around any ribbed panel. Just a mechanical limitation.
Second, and I do realize you did not make all of your videos last week, the Hitachi brand is now Metabo and that little update would be very informative to a DIY person doing this sort of work for the first time ... or returning to it after many years away.
None of what I just wrote is intended to fault you in any way! The educational and informative perspective of every one of your videos that I have watched is PRICELESS!! Thank you, so very much for your willingness to give us the heads up we need when we lack your experience, knowledge, and skill. :-)
check out the draco 3520 medal sear it will do what you want. also a skill saw with a carbide blade will do it. uni shears or tin snips are designed to only cut with a short amount of material on one side that can roll up.
great great information i really like the nibbler but that last one does a great and quick job thank you for info
I use a cordless angle grinder with a metal disc. Much faster. The draw back if you will is the cost of discs. Your Makita is the best I have have used.
Doug Neufeld I don’t recommend grinder or saw blades due to the heat it puts on the edge of the steel. Faster edge rust and the shavings flying around can cause edge rust as well. Not telling you not to do it. Just me .02 cents
I dont know if this is true but I've heard some metal companies wont honor the guarantee on the finish if they know their products were cut with an abrasive wheel. Grinder circular saw etc. That 50 yr guarantee on metal roofing flys out the window or so I have heard.
Warranty voided immediately bro, on coloured steel from any supplier
It is not annealing as that is a heat process to strengthen metal. Though it is pinching the galvanized metal/Galvalume paint to close the gap. The scissors do the same thing.
I have a Milwaukee nibbler. It cuts easily but I wish there was an attachment with a flat edge that could be pushed up against a straight edge guide to ensure it makes the straightest cut possible and square with the adjacent edge.
Not sure if it has already been covered in the comments but your Nibbler definitely Does Not anneal the metal. "Annealing - heat (metal or glass) and allow it to cool slowly, in order to remove internal stresses and toughen it. " Its basically a heat treat process, usually done with a torch in my experience. More common in auto body fab and more artistic stuff. Love your channel, just tryn to help keep accurate info.
Simple Man thanks I’m no expert on some of those terms... that’s how I was taught but thanks for enlightening me. Appreciate it
Whoever said it was annealed probably meant it was stiffened through "work hardening" which is a blacksmithing term for hammering the s**t out of something. It does increase the tensile strength but that can cause brittleness but in such a small area it would be insignificant.
That's a big fat thumbs up right there !!! Thanks
Awesome, thanks I have the next few tools on my list now, I could have used these a a month ago
I can envision with the nibler doing the cut over some sawhorses with some canvas between to catch the tiny pieces. Would be interesting if a bag could be attached in some manner to the tool to catch the waste.
RIDGID just came out with a Megamax. Same concept but bigger tools. It has attachments for an SDS, recipsaw and right angle drill.
Noconz0727 MC I’ve got that too. It’s pretty sweet
@@RRBuildings I look forward to that Toolsday
Very nice and instructive video. Many thanks
If u go from the other way it won’t oil can like that I use the malco shear works good and it works in my impact
Excellent information for helping me in my metal working... Thankyou
Boy I wish I had that nibbler when I was cutting my metal roof for my porch! I had a double cut shear and a medal saw blade on my circular saw.
Thanks and Recommended shed planning in 2019
Good info and the shear is awesome.
Great video Kyle. Very informative
Took me six minutes to see the R&R in your shirt.I must be getting slow in my old age.Good video thanks!!
James Moreland thanks bud
Great video once again. Thank you!!
Haven’t used the nibblers before might give it a try. But with a lot of skill Midwest snips can leave a nice clean cut edge on master rib 29 and 26 gauge panels. All my valley cuts are cut 3 inches long on the ground and the I use a non corrosive chalk to snap a line and finish my valley cuts using hand snips and a roofing cert class I had to do with a metal company I use they informed us that had snipping is best. Mostly because as the snip cuts the metal it rolls the zinc coating in the panels over the edge thus sealing it from outside elements very key on standing seam roofs near the coast. Cutting metal roofing of any kind with a circular saw is the worst thing because the heat from the blade effects the temper and strength of the cut edge and burns the protective coating on the metal leaving a edge that is very Susceptible to the elements. Plus using a circular saw with a framing blade flipped backwards makes one heck of a racket and leaves a ton of metal dust behind
35 years as a Union Tinknocker and i never needed 30 diff tools to cut metal.
I hear you brother but you know these other boys gotta compensate
Turn the blade backwards on a skill saw. Very loud but work well
Very thorough and helpful. Thank you!
Have the shear company make a set of knives that match the stretched length profile at the 4/12 angle. That would be very helpful.
Kyle you're the man👍🏻
Thank you, that was very informative. I am making a fence with ribbed metal and I was wondering how to cut it without damaging the metal panels. I'm am going to buy the Makita Nibbler.
I called Metabo HPT directly, along with almost everyone that would carry the CN18DSL (nibbler) in Ohio/WV/western Pennsylvania. No one has one in stock :( . Metabo HPT said the shear and the nibbler are on back order till at least November. Hopefully they are not discontinued.
Wow
The last tool! literally my jaw drops ! darn cool!
Well done video and great info thanks
Amazing toolsday. Keep them coming. Thanks
Great video, as always. Thanks.
Awesome video. Super clear, to the point. thanks for posting! :D
Man, you are so awesome!!!! The very first time I saw you use your nibblers in another video I’ve wanted to know what in the heck those were! Thanks a million for the video on all your cutting tools! The double sheers and nibblers are of great interest to me, no doubt!
And you’re not kidding!.. Menards is the best place in the world to spend your money. I just hope they don’t make it down in my area unless they look at theft statistics first. Down here in the south is an epidemic of welfare supported theft rings of multiple individuals at once ransacking these super store chains quietly and the police down here care less than nothing about it is the reason prices down here are inflated. Anyway, great videos!
What about those chisels used in pneumatic hammers? They kind of look like a double cut shear. But doesn’t move like scissors.
Have you considered making a toolsday video on the grk screws?
Cameron Barksdale I think a toolsday video talking about fasteners is a great idea
Great video! I need a nibbler now. I was just working on roofing a valley, cutting metal with a Malco single cut attachment for a drill, and it sucked.
Judah Chadwick yeah man. I’ve got those affiliate links in the description.
@@RRBuildings Thanks bro! Dang, nibblers are pricier than I was expecting, but I have some jobs coming up that will pay for it. Currently my cordless tools are all yellow, and it looks like I need to decide whether to buy in to green or blue tools next.
Excellent information. I remember building my parents house and cutting the corrugated steel roofing with a 77 worm drive and a plywood blade stuck in backwards. Hot chunks and slivers as we were doing it in August here in central Texas. People were convinced I was crazy as I was wearing a heavy denim long sleeved shirt in the 105 degree heat. If I had a nibbles back then...
Daynaleo1 how are the cut ends holding up against rust?
No mention of a cordless skilsaw with a metal cutting blade. Good for rips or crosscuts.
Gets to hot and causes rust I was always told
Thanks Kyle.
No problem john!
Great communication Thanks
Great video. you showed me just what i've been searching through you tube for, but no one else was showing me.
Great video. I've been planning on doing some work with sheet metal in the future and I was wondering what the best way to cut it would be. You answered all my questions. Thanks!
What are you doing a wall
What is better to cut a hole for vents in metal roof
Good information.
very helpful , thank you brother!
I just caught your episode on MFP. Subbed immediately. Representin’ the Illinois scene. Love it!
Do It thanks !!!