[ENG] SC1 vs SC2 SUPERMATCH Player : AGSL - Cure TY Sn0w Soulkey / SKTX II - Dark Classic Mini Action May 15th 17:00 [KST] | 1:00 [PDT] | 10:00 [CEST] AfreecaTV : bj.afreecatv.com/gslenglish
As someone(as described) that only watches ASL and has been following professional SC since it's inception, this was such a cool unique tourney and I REALLY hope AfreecaTV continues more with SC Evo.
i just jumped to 27. minute or smth and found my self in a weird kind of joy. this is all so cute. it is like plushie for rts nerds or something. i don't know how to explain this.
Thanks AfreecaTv, this was an amazing experience! Thanks to the players as well. It's great to see a new meta, a new dawn of gameplay and to start fresh not knowing how interactions go. Please do this again
This was suuuper fun!!!!! We for sure want more And my biggest take away: dragoons that aren’t derping out on pathing are very, very scary. Scarabs that aren’t derping are terrifying.
This has no right to be a mere mod, this has to become a part of the original game! This was so refreshing. It felt like the "strategy" part of this RTS had gone stale after the game was figured out to the point where it's mostly just execution, but this brings it right back with 15 additional new matchups! (Yes, this includes all six SC1 matchups, it's a different engine, thus everything controls way differently)
If they put a whole ton of prize money into this mode, and make it an official tournament then it will become more popular for sure. Obviously someone has to work on the game balance.
@@tigera6 game balance is irrelevant, until its had months to a year of pros on it. And even then, it has an answer, bw is the most imbalanced RTS on the market and its survived with 20 years of zero game balance.
economy too, not just engine, 12 workers from 4 is a huge difference. Sadly it removes a lot of the early game builds cause you can just kill it with 14-16 workers. But I don't know if everyone is in the same camp as me on getting rid of the 12 worker starts
@@vexienroe 23 years to be exact, but your point is kinda valid. In BW everything is broken, its just some things are more broken and still there are counter plays even if some of them are situational or extremely difficult to execute.
Haha same. I know almost everything about broodwar and watch pro games almost daily, and have almost no knowledge of sc2 and never had interest. But this is really cool and was about the only way I’d be able to find any interest in sc2. I hated the complicated graphics at first but I guess I’m getting more used to it
@@HappyChillmore i am the opposite. Watch almost every GSL vod for SC2. Cant watch broodwar. This looks really interesting. Could give both games new life.
@@peterhardie4151 same here, this is such an interesting concept when it comes to people’s personal preference. I always appreciate the strategy, but could never get into SC1 because of the low quality graphics and wonky building and unit designs where I can’t really tell what’s going on. So this is perfect for me. Only way I can enjoy SC1.
@@kevinb.3656 Funny to hear that. I feel the exact way about SC2 whereas BW is so easy for me to look at and understand. Even watching this knowing I'm looking at BW units in SC2 engine made my head hurt a bit. I grew up on 2.5D / isometric view engines (D2, BW, WC2) so makes sense. I remember when WC3 came out I would get headaches playing it.
Broodwar fan here. No idea who Classic is but he might now be my favourite SC2 player. Thank you, AfreecaTV!! This was amazing. Please support this more. So fun.
Classic is a certified G. He had a mini renaissance last year pulling some upsets & making it to the GSL code S semi finals where he lost to GuMiho 3-1 thus placing 3rd/4th (as did his teammate in this event, Dark, who lost to Solar, the eventual winner.) He's a guy that loses some games he prob shouldn't but also pulled off consecutive reverse sweeps to win the 2018 AfreecaTV GSL super #2. My fav sc2 protoss is MaxPax but Hero & Classic are just barely right behind. Maxpax's only knock is the fact he has never played an offline event.
@@kainakrit9311 I was sure I remembered Winter saying that too but I just checked liquipedia and it seems he returned in August of 21. He placed 4th in World Team League that yr while still in the military & then after getting back up to speed full-time in 22, he placed 2nd in Wardi's TeamLiquid Map Contest #8 losing 2:3 to Solar in the finals and was on the winning team "Stasis Wardis" that won the Caster's Civil War. In his finals match he beat Lambo evening up the score 1:1 after Serral had beaten Solar. Byun & Spirit also won after Creator lost to Armani giving them a 3:2 victory. In the Semifinals he opened the series against GuMiho claiming an early victory and Solar & Spirit won after Creator lost for a 3:1 victory.
This is the most fun I've had watching Starcraft in recent memory. This mod makes the mirror matchups much more interesting to watch. I hope AfreecaTV does more of this!
There were so many things to love about this format. The 4v4 at the beginning really set the tone wonderfully, the team format was fun, the players seemed to be having a good time and it was cool to see them thinking on their feet a bit more. I love how broken the liberator is in T2 vs Z1 😂
That was funny as hell seeing this as a BW players. SC2 T just parked one liberator on top of Action's hatchery and that was that. He was probably raging, at the same time watching helplessly his drones get one shotted :)
This was unexpected and awesome, lol. I was surprised at how pleasant the simpler SC1 designs are to look at in the SC2 engine. Whoever made the models is a total G.
I usually don't watch a ton of starcraft 2 but having my favorite players from ASL playing it and with broodwar mod was reeeaaaally fun. I hope we see more of this in the future. This was trully a genuine experience of people playing for fun as it should be.
the team behind this mod is so talented and they have been working on this mod for so long, i am stoked to see that it is getting reception like this! :D
I didn’t know what to expect seeing the title, but this was great. I hope this becomes a regular thing. Snow having too much fun with SC2 AI reavers is good to see.
Such a cool event from AfreecaTV. This mods brings both communities together and it's cool to see how both communities embrace this mod. Show matches like this will surely bring attention to Starcraft franchise and maybe if the demand is high, Blizzard will act on it?
Wow, this is very cool, and just might be the killer mod that revives the popularity of SC franchise in Korea for a while! It'd be hard to get it going in other regions as not many play SC1.
What an awesome event thanks to everyone who worked on this! Awesome casting by State and Tasteless as well, everyone having so much fun which is what this is all about!
This was so, so cool. Specifically the Mini as sc2 P vs sc1 Z was incredible. I really hope to see more of this. Seeing the ASL champs interacting and competing with the GSL champs was an amazing collaboration. Thank you Afreeca!
I definitely didn’t expect to be watching StarCraft 2 anytime soon. But this was completely amazing!! I definitely hope there will be more content like this in the future!
Dear AfreecaTv, PLEASE make this a more frequent thing! What a blast. Love that it's bringing together two communities, and it's so fresh and fun. So crazy, so fun!
Commenting for the algorithm. Amazingly fun series of games. Tasteless is right its like a brand new RTS honestly. Props to the players for entertaining games and props to afreecatv for hosting this!
That was awesome. Honestly I haven't been watching much SC the past 4~5 months but this match has re-sparked my interest! The balance is so weird and the games swing back and forth so quickly. The potential for some really interesting matches is there and I want to see more! 2:52:00 is like a my dad vs your dad argument😂
This is so fucking hype. Been playing StarCraft Broodwar since 2006, and StarCraft 2 since 2016. I think StarCraft Evolution Complete is the most beautiful thing I’ve seen this year!! Adding 3 factions that everyone knows adds so many new matchups, without being too overwhelming. Insane to watch new metas evolve, stay curious everyone 🎉❤
Please, AfreecaTV, keep doing this exact thing. I absolutely loved this!!! The mix was wonderful and hte games were so exciting!!! Please keep doing this!!!
This is just sooooo refreshing and entertaining! Novelty in SC world is just so scarce, I haven't been this excited about the game in a loooong while :) The fact that the mod is imbalanced in many areas actually just adds to the fun watching!
This was fantastic and the most fun I have had with Starcraft in a long time. I would love to see more tournaments and even a league if possible. Thanks Afreeca TV.
I had no idea this was even incoming / an idea / a mod, and every part of it has been very entertaining. I want to see way more SC1 vs SC2 content from Afreeca!
I have not enjoyed competetive broodwar/sc2 since the golden era of team matches. Please have more of this content, it's so god damn fresh and enjoyable. Much love to the producers and mod-creator.
This was fucking cool. I hope this develops more and becomes a permanent addition to the SC tourney scene (kinda like how in the Street Fighter II scene, they allow for the 'original' iteration of the characters to be played, along with the 'new' versions.) Also cool to have 2 casters that specialize in each game, it's really nice to have both perspectives in each MU. Double-also, did any else love hearing the SC1 sounds in SC2? The stim/Goliath/Science Vessel (D MATRIX, BABY!!!) sounds effects were awesome. Also, Firebats, let's goooo!
TY played so well vs classic first game, and all game were super interesting to watch, this mod definitly gives fresh air to starcraft scene , i would definitly ladder this mod and have a lot of fun!
Dear AfreecaTv
Please make this a regular thing.
Sincerely.
GSL Users
Tasteless said to ask soO, he sponsored this whole thing.
Forever a GSL user. 😊
Asl user here. And I love it
As someone(as described) that only watches ASL and has been following professional SC since it's inception, this was such a cool unique tourney and I REALLY hope AfreecaTV continues more with SC Evo.
SC1 + SC2 = SC3
nerd math ❤❤❤❤❤❤
i like this. they should make the story reynor going back in time. then we have pseudo 4th race. combination of SC1 and SC3 key units.
Quick maths
You can't argue with math.
I mean - wouldn’t it technically be 2S2C3? lol.
I wasn't even rooting for anyone; this is just a great show with great showmanship.
i just jumped to 27. minute or smth and found my self in a weird kind of joy. this is all so cute. it is like plushie for rts nerds or something. i don't know how to explain this.
I was always rooting for sc1 players aaaand Mini :)
Thanks AfreecaTv, this was an amazing experience! Thanks to the players as well. It's great to see a new meta, a new dawn of gameplay and to start fresh not knowing how interactions go. Please do this again
This was suuuper fun!!!!!
We for sure want more
And my biggest take away: dragoons that aren’t derping out on pathing are very, very scary.
Scarabs that aren’t derping are terrifying.
Spidermines too. They're more scary than zergling run bys sometimes
This match! This mod! This is something that bring this game back to life! Thx for this showcase match and hope to see more of this!
Uh... What do you mean back to life? The game is far from dead and still has plenty of people interested in it.
This has no right to be a mere mod, this has to become a part of the original game! This was so refreshing.
It felt like the "strategy" part of this RTS had gone stale after the game was figured out to the point where it's mostly just execution, but this brings it right back with 15 additional new matchups! (Yes, this includes all six SC1 matchups, it's a different engine, thus everything controls way differently)
If they put a whole ton of prize money into this mode, and make it an official tournament then it will become more popular for sure. Obviously someone has to work on the game balance.
@@tigera6 game balance is irrelevant, until its had months to a year of pros on it. And even then, it has an answer, bw is the most imbalanced RTS on the market and its survived with 20 years of zero game balance.
economy too, not just engine, 12 workers from 4 is a huge difference. Sadly it removes a lot of the early game builds cause you can just kill it with 14-16 workers. But I don't know if everyone is in the same camp as me on getting rid of the 12 worker starts
@@vexienroe 23 years to be exact, but your point is kinda valid. In BW everything is broken, its just some things are more broken and still there are counter plays even if some of them are situational or extremely difficult to execute.
This was by far one of the best SC experiences I ever had. I hope you can do this tournament format again!
I've been playing SC1 for 20 years. This is the first time I actually enyojed watching a SC2 game. We need more of this
No accounting for taste 😅
Haha same. I know almost everything about broodwar and watch pro games almost daily, and have almost no knowledge of sc2 and never had interest. But this is really cool and was about the only way I’d be able to find any interest in sc2. I hated the complicated graphics at first but I guess I’m getting more used to it
@@HappyChillmore i am the opposite. Watch almost every GSL vod for SC2. Cant watch broodwar. This looks really interesting. Could give both games new life.
@@peterhardie4151 same here, this is such an interesting concept when it comes to people’s personal preference. I always appreciate the strategy, but could never get into SC1 because of the low quality graphics and wonky building and unit designs where I can’t really tell what’s going on. So this is perfect for me. Only way I can enjoy SC1.
@@kevinb.3656 Funny to hear that. I feel the exact way about SC2 whereas BW is so easy for me to look at and understand. Even watching this knowing I'm looking at BW units in SC2 engine made my head hurt a bit. I grew up on 2.5D / isometric view engines (D2, BW, WC2) so makes sense. I remember when WC3 came out I would get headaches playing it.
The best thing ive seen in years. Bringing the 2 together. Doesn't get better than this.
Great show! Please do this again!
This was real refreshing indeed! 2v2, 3v3, 4v4.. we need more of such!
Broodwar fan here. No idea who Classic is but he might now be my favourite SC2 player.
Thank you, AfreecaTV!! This was amazing. Please support this more. So fun.
Classic is a certified G. He had a mini renaissance last year pulling some upsets & making it to the GSL code S semi finals where he lost to GuMiho 3-1 thus placing 3rd/4th (as did his teammate in this event, Dark, who lost to Solar, the eventual winner.)
He's a guy that loses some games he prob shouldn't but also pulled off consecutive reverse sweeps to win the 2018 AfreecaTV GSL super #2.
My fav sc2 protoss is MaxPax but Hero & Classic are just barely right behind. Maxpax's only knock is the fact he has never played an offline event.
@@The_Bink14 Not to mention he just came back from the military in 22/23 and is already playing well
@@The_Bink14harder to cheat offline
@@kainakrit9311 I was sure I remembered Winter saying that too but I just checked liquipedia and it seems he returned in August of 21. He placed 4th in World Team League that yr while still in the military & then after getting back up to speed full-time in 22, he placed 2nd in Wardi's TeamLiquid Map Contest #8 losing 2:3 to Solar in the finals and was on the winning team "Stasis Wardis" that won the Caster's Civil War. In his finals match he beat Lambo evening up the score 1:1 after Serral had beaten Solar. Byun & Spirit also won after Creator lost to Armani giving them a 3:2 victory. In the Semifinals he opened the series against GuMiho claiming an early victory and Solar & Spirit won after Creator lost for a 3:1 victory.
I haven’t been this excited watching StarCraft in a long time. Please do more and more of this.
StarCraft is interesting again.. Love it!
Dear AfreecaTV,
_Comment Irradiated by Cure_
..so yeah, that was amazing, WE NEED MORE PLEASE, Thank you ❤
This was S tier content, bring this back more! This is how the Proleague should have been done back in the day!
This is the most fun I've had watching Starcraft in recent memory. This mod makes the mirror matchups much more interesting to watch. I hope AfreecaTV does more of this!
There were so many things to love about this format. The 4v4 at the beginning really set the tone wonderfully, the team format was fun, the players seemed to be having a good time and it was cool to see them thinking on their feet a bit more. I love how broken the liberator is in T2 vs Z1 😂
That was funny as hell seeing this as a BW players. SC2 T just parked one liberator on top of Action's hatchery and that was that. He was probably raging, at the same time watching helplessly his drones get one shotted :)
this mod has brought new life to the game tbh
This is the best thing I've seen on GSL in years, incredible
Insert gif of Kylo ren screaming “MORE”
This was unexpected and awesome, lol.
I was surprised at how pleasant the simpler SC1 designs are to look at in the SC2 engine. Whoever made the models is a total G.
Most of the models are in the campaigns in one way or another
A lot of the models were remade to look more faithful to brood war
I usually don't watch a ton of starcraft 2 but having my favorite players from ASL playing it and with broodwar mod was reeeaaaally fun. I hope we see more of this in the future. This was trully a genuine experience of people playing for fun as it should be.
Refreshing and unique experience, seeing legends from both games in same stage. Thank you AfreecaTV for hosting this!
the team behind this mod is so talented and they have been working on this mod for so long, i am stoked to see that it is getting reception like this! :D
I didn’t know what to expect seeing the title, but this was great.
I hope this becomes a regular thing.
Snow having too much fun with SC2 AI reavers is good to see.
Still not enoguh fun. In his final form he starts laughing while clapping his feet.
Please keep doing more of these games Afreeca! It was the best content i've seen in a while
Such a cool event from AfreecaTV. This mods brings both communities together and it's cool to see how both communities embrace this mod. Show matches like this will surely bring attention to Starcraft franchise and maybe if the demand is high, Blizzard will act on it?
not gonna lie bros this kinda matches are the future :D SC1 vs SC2 gg
Really hope this catches on. Some of the most fun matchups I've seen in a long time.
Wow, this is very cool, and just might be the killer mod that revives the popularity of SC franchise in Korea for a while! It'd be hard to get it going in other regions as not many play SC1.
This was so sick, its like wings of liberty hype, tension and strategy, with legacy of the void pacing, action and skills.
What an awesome event thanks to everyone who worked on this! Awesome casting by State and Tasteless as well, everyone having so much fun which is what this is all about!
This was hype AF please do more of this
this has been amazing and is truly breathing life into the game. more!
Please do more of this. This was entertaining as hell!
Really enjoyable idea S2.
This gives me such nerd chills, please make this a thing AfreecaTV!
This was the coolest shit I've seen in a while
This was amazing. No meta, just pros figuring out each matchup. Thank u!!
This was so, so cool. Specifically the Mini as sc2 P vs sc1 Z was incredible. I really hope to see more of this. Seeing the ASL champs interacting and competing with the GSL champs was an amazing collaboration. Thank you Afreeca!
This unironically was the most fun I've had watching StarCraft in so long, I love it!
I definitely didn’t expect to be watching StarCraft 2 anytime soon. But this was completely amazing!! I definitely hope there will be more content like this in the future!
Amazing. Please keep doing this. Make a full tourney.
Great to see support of the new mod, would love to see more!
Loving this, absolutely great to watch this mod. I would love to see this as a semi regular thing.
What an amazing night, thank you Afreeca TV!
10/10 very fun
Dear AfreecaTv, PLEASE make this a more frequent thing! What a blast. Love that it's bringing together two communities, and it's so fresh and fun. So crazy, so fun!
Thank you to all the players & to Afreeca for putting this on, as well as a MASSIVE thank you to the genius devs who made this mod. We need more!
Snow, Soulkey, Action and Mini? Damn! You've got my attention, even though I don't know anything about SC2
The probe exploding and coming into the screen at 1:09:35 is hilarious
Oceanborn is like taht:).Every killed unit "floats" up to the surface, its pretty funny :)
Commenting for the algorithm. Amazingly fun series of games. Tasteless is right its like a brand new RTS honestly. Props to the players for entertaining games and props to afreecatv for hosting this!
That was awesome. Honestly I haven't been watching much SC the past 4~5 months but this match has re-sparked my interest! The balance is so weird and the games swing back and forth so quickly. The potential for some really interesting matches is there and I want to see more!
2:52:00 is like a my dad vs your dad argument😂
Holy shit dude this is the most entertaining SC2 content I've watched in a while
That was the most fun I've had watching StarCraft in a long time. Great show!
What a brilliant concept. I'd happily watch more. Seeing pros from both games interacting was fun. Also Classic played like a boss
It was awesome, thanks Afreeca! thanks for the english cast, i wouldn't be able to understand anything without Stateless
Truly a celebration of starcraft! Great matches, great players, great casters, perfect show match!
These matches were more back and forth in most cases than the normal leagues. Great experience!
One of the best sc experiences I ever had. Some crazy games today, hope we get to see more.
This is the best thing that I never even knew I wanted.
This is so fucking hype. Been playing StarCraft Broodwar since 2006, and StarCraft 2 since 2016. I think StarCraft Evolution Complete is the most beautiful thing I’ve seen this year!! Adding 3 factions that everyone knows adds so many new matchups, without being too overwhelming. Insane to watch new metas evolve, stay curious everyone 🎉❤
Please, AfreecaTV, keep doing this exact thing. I absolutely loved this!!! The mix was wonderful and hte games were so exciting!!! Please keep doing this!!!
This was fun
This need to go big..... Love to see more of these in tournaments.
I don't comment often on StarCraft content but please Afreeca do more of these. This is extremely fun to watch
This is just sooooo refreshing and entertaining! Novelty in SC world is just so scarce, I haven't been this excited about the game in a loooong while :) The fact that the mod is imbalanced in many areas actually just adds to the fun watching!
Please do this again. This was incredible.
Как же это круто, ребята! Всем Старкрафт!
Thank you too the people who worked on this mod -- thanks to AfreecaTV and the players. Great format. Can't wait to see where it goes from here.
This was amazing
Please do it again….not too much cuz I want this amazing feeling to last but damn…this was amazing
This is amazing. I knew nothing about any of this. This has got to be the best way to crossover the fanbases more.
most sc fun i had in a long time!!
Absolutely insane, please bring this back in the future
So fun. More please!
Please more of these, so much fun, I was so hyped for this and it did not disappoint!!!!1!
This was fantastic and the most fun I have had with Starcraft in a long time. I would love to see more tournaments and even a league if possible. Thanks Afreeca TV.
This was absolutely fantastic. Please Afreeca TV please do more. ❤
I had no idea this was even incoming / an idea / a mod, and every part of it has been very entertaining. I want to see way more SC1 vs SC2 content from Afreeca!
I have not enjoyed competetive broodwar/sc2 since the golden era of team matches. Please have more of this content, it's so god damn fresh and enjoyable. Much love to the producers and mod-creator.
I did not know I needed this in my life. Amazing performances - please keep going!
THIS WAS AWESOOOOOOOOME. Please make more of this AfreecaTV
"We will show you our champions' DNA [except SnOw]" lmao the shade
This was fucking cool. I hope this develops more and becomes a permanent addition to the SC tourney scene (kinda like how in the Street Fighter II scene, they allow for the 'original' iteration of the characters to be played, along with the 'new' versions.)
Also cool to have 2 casters that specialize in each game, it's really nice to have both perspectives in each MU.
Double-also, did any else love hearing the SC1 sounds in SC2? The stim/Goliath/Science Vessel (D MATRIX, BABY!!!) sounds effects were awesome. Also, Firebats, let's goooo!
SC1 sound effects are soooooo good!!
This is what we needed. More of this please.
This was amazing. I think everyone was thinking this is almost a SC3 beta.
This is the most fun I ever had watching Starcraft!
Afreeca, more of this PLEASE ❤ Dear God yes. Ugh, this was sooo fun to watch 😁 thank you
Thanks, AfreecaTv. Please do this game format again!
This was incredible, more of this please!
This match was amazing! Please DO MORE!
God this was so fun. This mod is like godsend. Even the games are just unbelievably entertaining
TY played so well vs classic first game, and all game were super interesting to watch, this mod definitly gives fresh air to starcraft scene , i would definitly ladder this mod and have a lot of fun!
The way these starcraft gods look at each other with immense respect ❤
So much fun! Please do this again!
this was awesome. more of these in the future plz!
This was super exciting! I'd love to see more of these!
This showmatch was incredible. Thank you to everyone for their hard work .