Simple and Cheap Upgrades that Transformed my Fat Bike!
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Winter is coming so I decided to get my fat bike dialed in for more fun.
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I like what you haven't done with your place. The pictures on the floor really tie the room together. Lol
This comment is so amazing haha. I live pretty simply at home. I actually laid those pictures out on the ground to film this video thinking it would be a nice backdrop haha. Glad someone took notice.
AHHH! I can't wait. I get my first fat bike delivered tomorrow (NBD!!!). Already ordered new pedals, grips, a shorter stem, etc. They'll be here tomorrow as well. Haha. Of course, the next step after buying the fat bike was to deep dive into every fat bike video on CZcams ever made. Came across this one- one of my faves. Nice work!
Fat bike exists for snowing 🌨
And for riding!
Fat bikes are awesome
They are! I miss this bike. Sold it a few months ago. :(
Nice upgrades. Fat bikes are super FUN
Thanks! I can't help but laugh every time I ride this thing.
And now I want a fat bike. I don't need one, but now I want one.
Oh you need one!
The difference in rolling resistance between budget tires and really good tubeless must be immense. I rode a really high priced fat bike and it felt like pedaling a skinny tire bike. It was the tires that made the difference.
Great upgrades for the fatbike,love the grips i have one just like them.
I'm very impressed by these grips. My hands feel very good on them!
FInally getting around to watching this. Nice im loving the Commando bear always have though even with her nasty little 2x that saucy minx. But you made it better though for sure. Great job Kyle!
Lol it is a saucy minx. I wish it snowed here just so I could try this thing out.
Nice vid, and great upgrades. I bought my Rocky Mountain Blizzard 20 and the first thing I did was add a OneUp Components V1 dropper post for under$150. I'm swapping the MT201 brakes for SLX ones, and replaced the factory pedals with RockBros STAMPs. I added two lights (since it gets dark sooner in the winter), and a frame mount for a pump and CO2. Next up is a suspension fork, but that's NOT a cheap upgrade.
Good stuff! I wanted suspension too, but could never pull the trigger when seeing the cost. I was gonna go with the Manitou Mastadon. People seem to really like that fork.
I run the Fookers in black on my hardtail ,I ride pretty hard and take big jumps and drops and they've been great.
That's good to hear. I've heard a lot of great things about them, and when I put them next to my chesters on another bike they are identical. What a great value!
I live in Michigan and was looking at Fat Bike vids when yours came up...and there was Mac! One of my favorite places from when I lived in SA. Nice vid by the way. :)
Thanks James! Probably the last place you expected to see when researching fat bikes lol
i got a salsa beargrease 2017 use mushroom grips on my handlebars which are moustache handlebars old school i know but still very nice feel, saint pedals, bontrager jackalope rims 26 inch, tyres maxxis minions fbr 26 x 4 on front as well as back for improved traction, seat ism sport, i still got 2 x 10 gears, outer front chain ring is 42 tooth and rear 11 x 42 for road use. i have chain tight my chain always stays on even off road.
Am thinking to add suspensions replacing my rigid fork..
Nice upgrades! Only thing I'd suggest is running a bashguard ring on the outside since there aren't any ISCG tabs, that's what I did on my bike.
Thanks Kenny. That's a good suggestion. I thought it looked a little weird since I mounted the new chainring on the inside bolts. I'll have to look for one.
Haircut, singing, fat bike. trifecta!
Couldn't ask for anything more right?
@@CobraKyle Solid Gold Dancers?
I dig it!
Why thank you! I think this is one of my better builds lol
Nice bike I wonder if the malus is good
I have a 2021 Mongoose Argus Trail fat bike with a 2x8. How can I tell if a 9 speed or 10 speed can fit in the rear?
Oh man... Commando Bear is the bike I've been looking for! I'm flirting with the idea of mountain biking(beginner trails at first, of course!)... trying to shed two humans worth of weight! Haha... I'm serious, I'm clockin' in at 450+. I have a cheap Schwinn cruiser but I feel that that one creaks and cries for me to get off of it. Totally going to look at this model when it comes to a serious upgrade! Thank you so much for sharing... so glad I stumbled upon your video. Plus, I live in South Texas (Laredo) so it's awesome to see local content creators! Thanks again!
Thanks! Best of luck in your weight loss journey. Cycling is a great way to shed some pounds and have a good time. Fat bikes are serious fun, so I think it would be an awesome bike for you! Appreciate you watching!
Pretty slick man. My offer for the bike still stands...
Lol you drive a hard bargain Gene
@@CobraKyle ok ok...I'll throw in a whataburger taquito
Another greatly entertaining video!
If you want to come to Houston for a weekend I can host you.... just sayin
I appreciate that. I do want to check out Houston's riding scene eventually. Hard to find the time to get over there.
Great Video. What trails where these? They reminded me of Austin. 🌄 hills area to be exact.
Thanks! This was filmed at McAllister park in San Antonio TX! I'm only an hour from Austin, so pretty similar stuff!
I just sold my fatty to cover my new 29er, but nothing has been more reassuring to me in the chunk than 4.0s. And there's a joy to trail riding a fatty that's hard to explain, but so evident to anyone who has. That said, I soon hope to give a plus bike a chance and see if the split difference is my goldilocks zone.
Is there a fat bike tire for desert terrain? I have a specialized fatboy and the tire is really thin. Sealant is working for goatheads but, once my tire needs replacing, I would like to get thicker rubber tires for Arizona's desert. That's where I ride.
Wow! 36/22? Y'all are a different breed (in a good way).
My road bike is a 52/36. The rear 11 cassette helps but, heck, y'all must be cranking 120 cadences (or more) on the downs!
Love the vids Kyle! :)
Yeah I actually took the road bike out yesterday and it was so much harder to pedal! We just coast on the downhills on our MTB's lol.
Road is totally different to off road...fat tyres compared to road tyres drag...weight..the list goes on..until you get to shaven legs..
Glad I found your channel. Just getting back into bikes from when I was a bmx kid. My dad was a road bike racer growing up. When I decided to get a bike I decided I didnt want to spend a bunch of money on a bike bc I might loose interest after a bit. Growing up I always road bike shop bikes not department store bikes bc dad refused to buy them from anywhere but a real bike store as he said. I dont have to tell you some of those prices. I live in hot springs ar its a big bike city So I just turned into a pawn shop one day to see what they had. I walked in and there sat a mongoose malus fat tire. Yeah I know mongoose is known for being wal mart these days but when I was a kid they were a bike shop bike only except for the blue max sold at western auto. But it was still a mongoose classic under a different name so it was still a real goose. And I'm pretty sure you can still get the real mongoose not a Kent wal mart with mongoose stickers. Anyway I feel in love with it just on a its a beast points. And used it was a good deal so if I lost interest no big money loss just 200 bucks. The other fat tire I seen on Craigslist was a gravity and it was 350 so I grabbed the goose. there are up grades i want to do like bars gear shifter breaks but thats all to make it more ride friendly. I didnt know till this video that diamond back made a fat tire. That was the brand bmx I rode back in the day and as much as I love that dang mongoose I want to find a fat tire db now. The goose won't be wasted I got a buddy who is getting back into bikes he loves that fat tire and he is on a limited budget. Im good on money so now that I know I love riding I dont mind spending some cash on one so I will give my buddy the goose when I find me a db fat tire. It will be a win win for me. I get to help out a less fortunate buddy and have a buddy with a fat tire to thrash trails with.
I loved Redlines Mongoose...diamond back....an CYC's
Look at that hot rump 9:49 on the fat bike! The fat bike felt pretty great even though it was too big for me. When is that Commando Bear song hitting iTunes? I'm in for 3 downloads!
A delightful rump indeed! That song is going platinum for sure. I spent all of 3 seconds coming up with lyrics.
@@CobraKyle 🎶COMMANDO BEAAR🎶 🤣🤣
I am always interested on how guys use such wide bars. To me they are really uncomfortable as my wrists and arms so at such weird angles. I just cut my fat bike bars to 762mm but they still seem too wide.
So im new to this, ibwas wondering if it's possible to put that same cassette with the part that has three disc's with teeth where the pedals are. Excuse my non existent knowledge with some parts.
what tire pressure and tire size do you run on that trail? great video and theme song!
Thanks! I had Maxxis Minions 26 x4.8" and usually ran between 10-15 psi.
Are you show it wasn't Chris you were talking about lol. Nice video and great upgrades to the bike. You might want to get them grips on your other bike
Oh it was me he was talking about! haha
@@ChrisCXK figured haha
Lol! I probably will put those grips on my other bikes once the current ones wear out. I really like them!
Everyone needs a project bike to upgrade just for the fun of doing it. Of course if your like me you end up with a bike you have to keep because you have so much invested in it and can never recoup your investment. That’s the one you loan to your friends.
Lol I know the struggle. I've invested too much in most my bikes so I'm kind of just stuck with them. Happy to be stuck with them though.
Cobra Kyle , if only my wife shared my understanding of man’s need for multiple bikes. I am taking steps to make a bike barn in part of my shop which will free up the space my bikes take up in her workout room. Hoping that helps with her understanding.
What was the gear ratio on the old 10 speed cassette? I have a 1x9 Was thinking of upgrading
I honestly don't remember. I wanna say it was 11-42? I think the new 11 speed was 11-46. Not a huge difference, but weight savings and less clutter on handlebars made it worth it.
My wife loves her Motobecane Fat bike, 26×4.8 Maxxis Minons, bluto fork Scram 1×10. Bike rolls really well, maybe better than my 29×3 plus bike
I'm always shocked at how quick these giant tires are. I might someday put a suspension fork on mine, but enjoying it for what it is now.
I find if I increase the length of the chain, my guess is because the chain wraps around the derailleur more, the chain slap almost completely goes away and I very rarely drop the chain anymore.
That doesnt make sense...loose chain will slap more and come off easier...
Which bike stand is that?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, especially the 1x vs 2x front derailleur.
My pleasure! 1x drivetrain is the best upgrade you can easily make for less hassle and simplicity.
@@CobraKyle cool, I'm thinking about going Fat Bike as my everyday transportation. Kind regards
Cool
Ergon ga3 😍 so comfy. I hoped they would be OK and I love them on my fatty
They are super comfy! I've enjoyed them on this bike. I recently got Ergon GE1 for my full suspension and they are pretty nice too.
@@CobraKyle had those on my hardtail. The bigger surface suits fattys perfectly especially when I'm on the go slow 😂
whatta nice place
It really is!
Wondering if you’ve done a tubeless setup yet ? Good way to save weight.
I have actually! It saved another pound. I briefly mention it during my global fat bike day 2019 video.
Looks great but wondering if you might have too much PSI in the front tire. I would think more than 8 would be too much. Looks like its a little bumpy riding.
It probably was too much air. I had tubes in it at the time, and my floor pump had trouble reading pressures below 10psi, so I always put it over 10 in hopes of not getting a flat. I eventually made this bike tubeless and was running super low pressures and it was wild!
Please, can I have the reference of the bar handle? In addition, I've mistakenly bought online an used Mongoose fate tire that I was intending to upgrade just like you did. But unfortunately, it was a one speed bike. Now, can it be upgraded to a 14 or higher speed?
Here is a link to the handlebars I got: www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/nukeproof-horizon-v2-alloy-riser-bar-31-8mm/rp-prod192543
I bought the 25mm rise. Mine are an older version that they don't make anymore, but these are pretty much the same.
As for the geared conversion, it depends on the type of hub your rear wheel has. There's a lot of different scenarios if it will work or not, so it's hard for me to give a definitive yes or no. Google how to do a single speed to geared conversion, and there's a lot of great resources to help you!
36 pounds for a fat bike with 2 tubes in those big tires is pretty good at that price. Thanks for the vid!
Yeah it's honestly pretty impressive. I eventually got it tubeless and that saved around another pound. 35 pound rigid bike with 5" tires? It was a blast on trails!
Hi from Italy, great tips!! I'm really sorry might have missed it, but may I ask what size are your bars? Thanks :)
Thanks! I believe they were 780mm wide which is the sweet spot in my opinion.
@@CobraKyle thanks, been riding a gravel for two years, am still learning everything about cyclism, i have an old old mtb - it had a 700 mm bar, but i was like 14 when we got it, and a city bike - i've fitted a same sized bar as some guy told me, see how you feel holding a stick with straight arms, horizontal in front of your face. And, 6'2", XL bikes, but i thought that was ok. But am reconsidering now as p, on those bikes, I see that leaning on a bar is just not the same thing as holding it (and its weight) in the air. I assume you must be bit tall too. Anyways I'll think it over and really, 780 might be just good. On the gravel bike, it had a 460er and I fit a 60/75 curve walmer bar which the sweet spot drop in my case. So YES :)
@@dorianblue4229 I'm 6' tall and ride a large. The wider bars feel a lot better on mountain bikes. I'm not too sure about gravel bikes though. I am considering getting a gravel bike because they look super fun!
@@CobraKyle yes i have a specialized Awol 2017 and it's fantastic (if one likes the steel/monstercross/cyclotour side of gravel as oppose dto the more 'roadie' one like for example the specialized Diverge), anyway of course i was talking of wide flat bars for the fat bike i hope to grab soon (a Silverback Scoop). Cool tips to keep in mind, thanks so much really! :)
Did you need to add spacers to center the chain ring? I am doing this same upgrade and have read that you should consider adding spacers to center your chain ring with the cassette. Thank you!
Hi Andrew. I actually didn't add any spacers for the chainring. Never had a problem with shifting!
Did the conversion to 1x10 to great success! Also got the same grips and it has saved my wrists as well. Thanks for the recommendations and details
What brand is the rear tire rack that your using?
This is the rack I use: amzn.to/2OyM1kt
I really like it. Nice and sturdy and fits an assortment of bikes.
What tire pressure are you rolling with?
Usually between 10 and 20psi depending on the terrain.
Does it have routing for dropper post
It does! Has a hole in the seat tube, but not internal routing in the downtube. I ran my dropper cable underneath the downtube and bought some cable clamps that bolt into waterbottle mounting points on the bottom of downtube.
what is your opinion of KHS 4 seasons 1000?
I don't know a ton about KHS, but I see the 4 seasons get recommended a lot. I just took a look at the specs on their website, and appears to be a really nice bike!
Dude please give me the link of that handlebar
nukeproof.com/collections/components-handlebars/products/neutron-v2-alloy-riser-bar
It was the generation 1 of these bars. Unfortunately they don't make them very colorful anymore.
how fat are the rims? i just bought one bike that's supossed to be 4" wide because it's what the tire says but when i measured it actually was only 3" rim.
I believe (trying to remember off top of my head) they are 90mm wide internal width. The rims that came on this are absolutely massive. I eventually got them tubeless, and haven't taken the tire off recently to actually measure the true width.
What's your tire psi on this?thx
My floor pump doesn't have the best gauge when working below 20psi, but when I had tubes in it I would run between 15-20psi. I finally got this thing tubeless and I run between 10-15psi for normal trail conditions. I believe snow and sand riders go even lower than 10 psi, but I don't have snow where I live, so I can't answer that for sure.
No mention of the new dropper post? What is it and how much was it?
Sorry about that. I had installed the dropper a year before this video was made, so I didn't include it in this batch of upgrades. It's a PNW Components Rainier dropper, and it currently sells for $180. Can't say enough good things about it!
@@CobraKyle Thanks. I recently purchased a used El Oso and am slowly upgrading it. The dropper post cable routing had me scratching my head, but I think I figured it out.
2X drivetrains are fine. If the chain drops, you suck at shifting and/or it isn't adjusted properly. They also provide way more top end gear than a 1X can, without losing anything on the low end.
Did you set this up tubeless? That will cut another 1/2 to 1 lbs off the bike.
I did eventually get this bike tubeless after this video was filmed. It wasn't an easy process, but it was awesome shaving that weight!
if i only use it in the city, do you think how many cassette do i need to use in my crank? And how many T?
Will you be using a 1X drivetrain? Depends on how hilly your city is. If you wanna be able to keep up in traffic I would go with a 36 - 40 tooth front chainring. If using a 10 - 11 speed cassette, just find the biggest range you can find that will fit the bike. I think a 10-46 cassette would cover just about everything.
Thank you so much for the feedback.. 🙏🙏
@@CobraKyle if you use 1x drivetrain, what T will you choose? 24? 36? or 40? *for me
What's the maximum weight it supports?
I'm honestly not sure. I didn't see any info about weight limit for this bike.
🎶COMMANDO BEAAR🎶
One of the best songs ever recorded lol
@@CobraKyle 😂😂😂
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My dad lives his fooker petals too
Nice! I'm using them a lot more and really like them!
I'm sorry if I missed it- have you converted it to Tubeless yet?
I've tried so many times to convert this thing tubeless and I can't get it to work :( Sadly I still run tubes in it. I've tried an air compressor and they still won't seat on the rim. Cheap wheels. I may down the road invest in a nicer tubeless wheelset, but don't want to spend the money yet.
Try lairing up the tape on your rims until the bead fits tight. Try tieing a rope around your tire before hitting it with the compressor.... Going tubeless will over shadow every single upgrade you made to the bike.
Ghetto tubeless with a 24inch split tube. Easiest and most reliable method for tubeless on a fat bike
@@FatTraction
100% AGREED.
On my Budget FATTIE Mongoose Malus the standard 'use superwide 4" Gorilla Tape' to seal rim method failed.
Then tried the '24"x4" Ghetto Split Fat Tube method - success !!
Using custom mixed sealant - no air loss in stock 26x4 tires too !
I could not get my rear tire to seat tubless. Tried every thing with rope, tape and dirty words. I reseated tire with tube then only broke one bead from rim to remove tube and install tubeless valve. Used air compressor with hugging and bouncing tire to get bead to seat.
I’m happy that you are satisfied with the 1 x; however I used the 1x and never dropped the chain. I have been riding two years with the 1x and would not go back. I have the same style of grips and I must admit, I love them.
Luna Cycles has the BBSHD 1000 watt electric motor... with the Ludicrous upgrade, it will turn the motor into a 50 amp, 2700 Watt Fat Tire Beast that will get you rolling up any hill or down the 2 track at speeds in excess of 40 miles per hour!... If anything is worth doing bro.... over due it! (Oh... and always ride with your seatbelt on... in lowest gear.... it is a wheelie machine! ).
That sounds absolutely nuts man and I'm very into the idea of it lol
Great to see you out on your Fatty again! Ride On Kyle :-)
I appreciate that old man! I'm looking forward to using it more!
@@CobraKyle I'm looking forward to more videos!!
Whats the easiest way to remove my handlebar grips?
I spray a little WD-40 underneath them and that usually gets them to slide right off!
Don't do that - WD40 does *not* dissolve after application and will render the grips useless, since they will come loose on the next install _WAY_ easier due to the residues!
Use IPA (iso-propyl-alcohol) instead - just jam a cable tie in between bar and grip and squirt into the gap, as you keep working the zip tie in + turning the grip. The IPA will evaporate fully. Works for sliding on those grips as well!
whats the size of your rim or tire? thank you
The tire is a 4.8" Maxxis Minion. I'm sorry, but I don't recall the rim width. It's pretty massive though!
@@CobraKyle thank you bro might be getting fat bike soon just to know more some info before getting that awesome thing...
Wow this looks so cool from this angle. Not Chris the bike 😂
Todays Diamondback fat bikes don't have the curve top bar in the frame . If you see Diamond website those bikes are not there.
What PSI do you set you tires to? Mine are 5-6 psi but I find them too bouncy.
That’s not too bouncy
I would chacange forks to at least 120 mm travel
How did you fit a 96 BCD oval chainring on that FSA Comet Mega Exo crank? I have the same exact bike and not only does the inner ring BCD measure way under 96mm but it's also symmetrical/square. I must be missing something? Love the vid, planning to do the same XT 1x11 conversion on mine!
Hello! I just checked my order history and it was a 64 BCD from Absolute Black. I got the 28 tooth oval option. The 64 BCD fits on the smaller chainring holder, and I believe the larger one is a 104 BCD. Here's an Amazon link to the 28 tooth 64 BCD: amzn.to/2YZE0eT
@@CobraKyle Wicked, thanks so much for checking!!
Awesome video and upgrades! The bike looks awesome! I would have also gone with a shorter stem, either 40mm or 50mm. I've always done this upgrade to my fat bikes and it completely transforms the handling and flickability.
I eventually put a 50mm stem on after this video was filmed. It was way better. I think the original was either 90 or 100mm? Short stems for the win!
Put a shorter on stem 45 50 mm makes a big difference apart from that all good up grades bigger brake rotors help 180 rear 203 front cheap up grade
I did consider doing the stem as well cause my current one is pretty long. I do have the 203 and 180 brake rotor setup. Helped drastically as it came stock with 160/160.
It snows here...
About once every 10 years, and sometimes it last for a whole day...
More like freezing rain?...
Yeah tubeless will save some weight, ESPECIALLY on a fatbike...
It did sleet a little bit last December. Should have gone fat biking! I hope to find a relatively inexpensive tubeless wheelset for this bike. For the life of me can't get the current wheels to take tubeless.
Tire Pressure?
I typically run it around 10 psi. It's a blast. I still got tubes in it so afraid to go any lower than that.
@@CobraKyle Don't be. Tubed and running 6f/8r on about same surface as you here in Alabama. Also, I'm a clyde at 275#..
PS, r/ Fatbike is how I found you
How about making it Tubeless, it's saves you about 3-4 pounds
I did eventually get this bike tubeless after this video was made. It made the bike even more awesome!
Get yourself a Bluto fork brother.
I've been considering that or a Mastadon fork. Just hard to spend $600 on a fork for a bike that only cost $600. I keep an eye out on the used market every now and then, but so far have enjoyed the full rigid feel of this bike.
Thanks for supporting your local bike shop!... Oh wait...never mind...
To put on some handlebars? I'm fully capable of doing that myself. My local shop gets plenty of business from me. They do my shock services, I buy parts from them, and they help me on bigger repairs.
Cobra Kyle The. Chronically offended are always willing to mouth off regarding your choices. To hell with them, great video and I like the story of Commando Bear.
You went up caliche hill on a fat bike? I’m pretty impressed, it’s steeper than it looks on a GoPro, and it’s all rock, both loose and smooth.
Thanks David! This was actually the first bike I was able to climb up it with. 5" tires offer maximum traction. I've since been able to climb Caliche on my other bikes, but the fat bike showed me the way. I hate how flat Caliche looks on camera because it's a pretty serious hill!
If you haven’t already gone tubeless you really should
I eventually did get this bike tubeless. It was so much better afterwards!
@@CobraKyle I’d like to see more with this bike
I would have replaced the seatpost with a carbon one to save weight. The same goes for the handle bar, carbon is the way to go. And at Ebay it is really not that expensive.
Raceface - support riders, teams, etc and develops new products through racing. Chinese knockoff that supports nothing but you save a measly $20. People just don't think.
You have changed the brakes, too, haven't you?
Yeah I changed those about a year before this video. It has Tektro mechanical brakes, but I swapped them with a gently used set of Shimano Deore hydraulic brakes.
Spare me the music
oh so $300 is cheap now. wow.
you did a video on the bike saying how great it was then you didn't ride it again? that doesn't give you much credibility
I rode it plenty after this video. Just didn't make another video on it. I also have a lot of bikes, so sometimes I don't get to ride certain ones as often.
You are dropping chains because you are not shifting gears correctly. I bet you go through all the gears like you do a car 1 through 8 instead of how you are supposed to. On a 2x or 3x you are supposed to switch gears in the front around halfway through your gears to prevent "cross chaining" and you won't have those loud shifting problems and dropped chains.
On a 2x8 setup you are supposed to shift:
Left shifter Right Shifter
1 1-4
2 4-8
Never be in the biggest or smallest gears at the same time. Think of a bikes gears more like a big rig semis gears instead of a sports cars. You never want to be in 1 on the left and 8 on the right or 2 on the left and 1 on the right. That puts your chain in a bind and will damage your drivetrain and chain, even breaking the chain. It surprises me how many people don't know this, and take for granted that bike shifting is supposed to be like a cars, where you go straight through the gears, when it's more akin to big rig shifting and the purpose of these 3 on the front is to keep the chain as straight as possible and to keep the chain out of a bind to prevent chain drops, damage and chain breaks. If you are shifting correctly, you won't have loud shifts, or multiple gears that have the same ratios. I see people going with the 1x systems, and you would think they would do a bit of research first to ensure they are shifting gears right. 1x systems do not fix the issue with cross chaining, so you will still have chain drops and damage done to your drivetrain if you ride too much in the outermost gears. Until the manufacturers fix a drive system that accounts for chain bind the 2x and 3x systems are still better than the 1x system.
I never had any issues due to cross chaining. I used to road bike, so I'm very aware of how bad that can be. I was dropping it alot on this particular ride because my old rear derailleur didn't have a clutch and I was going over some very rocky terrain on a rigid frame. I'm hoping the industry follows the trend that Box Prime 9 is going for. 9 speed with same range as the 12 speeds.