Building a Shower Pan with Deck Mud (No Timelapse or Editing)

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  • čas přidán 8. 03. 2023
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Komentáře • 155

  • @Liberty_DIY
    @Liberty_DIY Před rokem +22

    I don't know if you realize it or not....but you inspire folks to do more DIY than just tile.

  • @gssuper1438
    @gssuper1438 Před rokem +9

    This is the only way I can learn. Just watch you do exactly what you do in real time and i can repeat it! Worked for a contractor for years and learned so much watching all the trades doing their thing

  • @bh8595
    @bh8595 Před rokem +2

    That was one of the cleanest pans I've ever seen done. One of these days I'll have to come by your store. I'm in Marysville. Been doing since High School. Watched most of your videos. Very educational no matter any viewers skill level. Great job and keep up the good work.

  • @dextershutt1716
    @dextershutt1716 Před rokem +3

    Watching a mudbed being installed right is so satisfying

  • @dougSUNLOVER
    @dougSUNLOVER Před 7 měsíci

    BEST video on CZcams for making a shower base . I am on my third shower and have watched this video many times. Thank you for the full time video without editing so we can see all the details! I have purchased the drain from Tile coach and this made the pan build so easy!!

  • @brendoncreps365
    @brendoncreps365 Před rokem +4

    Amazing as always. Full length was great. Hope to see more.

  • @jpatron79
    @jpatron79 Před rokem

    Great vid! I am saving myself easily,15k, with your help and this FloFX flange and tile in drain. Cant wait to be done! Your videos are awesome!! Thank you!

  • @jordanwise9354
    @jordanwise9354 Před rokem +6

    I started my own shower renovation because of the confidence you built within us. Please continue the shower build and show each step in detail like you did here. Thanks for being our Tile Coach! 🙌🏿

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem

      Awesome!!! your welcome

    • @rpetrow220
      @rpetrow220 Před rokem

      Out of curiosity, what type of pan are you going with Jordan? I have been scared of doing my own tilework because of trusting myself to build a waterproof pan. A tile store I visited reccommended a Wedi system...But apparently even they fail. Ugh...what to choose, what to choose....???

    • @jordanwise9354
      @jordanwise9354 Před rokem +1

      @@rpetrow220 this is completely brand new to me but research & patience is key. I live in Texas so this is what I did. Our house foundation is a concrete slab and I am doing a 3ftx8ft shower with a 6 1/2 curb (4-5 inch would have been better).
      1. Shower curb with basic bricks, covered in mortar.
      2. Thinset on the concrete prior to your preslope for your dry pack (they sell preslope plastic kits to help with this).
      2. Dry pack like tile coach except my batches were inconsistent so I mixed a bit of mortar mix and concrete to strengthen it. I also sprayed a bit of flex seal to make sure it wouldnt break down.
      3. Rubber pan liner (6 inch minimum on all sides)
      4. Dry pack slope with some added mortar mix to give it the strength & smoothness I needed (they sell slope plastic forms).
      5. Paint 3 coats of Waterproof membrane
      6. both of my dry packs had a bit of unevenness so you'll need to make sure it's smooth, or if it's already dry vacuum it up.
      7. Patience and critical thinking throughout the process.

    • @brandondion6689
      @brandondion6689 Před rokem +1

      ​@jordan wise hey buddy i know you put the waterproofing in ontop of your rubber liner just to be safe but this can lead to issues later due to water not actually draining through the bed and to the weep holes if you're using it everyday. Coach has a few videos of why you shouldnt mix methods. The rubber pan liner uses a clamp style drain usually with weep holes so the water can drain down through the pan over time and make its way to the drain. When you seal the pan like that it counteracts what you're trying to accomplish.

  • @Joachim.777
    @Joachim.777 Před rokem

    All I got to say is, you’re an absolutely pro Zack. Woow love the fact that you’re very caring with the finishing. Just fantastic…
    Very well done bud.
    God Bless you always 🖖🏽❤️🙏🏽

  • @edzaffina9785
    @edzaffina9785 Před rokem +1

    It's a pleasure to watch ! Thank you coach!

  • @johndoyle4984
    @johndoyle4984 Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome work! I've watched a bunch of your videos now as you explain things well! It was good to see this without a time lapse!! I've seen and done a lot of projects and got my timing mixed up thinking that I'd be done quicker, just like the videos :)

  • @Smokie1969
    @Smokie1969 Před rokem +2

    It's always a pleasure watching true tradesmen taking pride in their work👌
    Quick Q: I'm putting in a shower in my new workshop/shed.....what's the best method, a mortar base as shown here, or a premanufactured shower base?

  • @rogerghiardi7723
    @rogerghiardi7723 Před rokem +1

    Awesome I've done two huge showers lately with RSS. It's awesome

  • @mathusvaiaoga9787
    @mathusvaiaoga9787 Před rokem +2

    This guy makes it look soooo easy. I tore mine up twice before I finally felt ok with it.

    • @abarragan951
      @abarragan951 Před 10 měsíci

      I did the same to my shower remodel!

  • @lucindaspoerner9935
    @lucindaspoerner9935 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for doing this video real time, so helpful!

  • @mrdolby
    @mrdolby Před rokem +2

    That sure looks like an form of art! Excellent work

  • @conradcoolerfiend
    @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem

    its cool how the steel trowel really changes the surface texture!

  • @MrLexani420
    @MrLexani420 Před rokem

    Thanks for putting this up. Helped a ton!

  • @sune3000
    @sune3000 Před rokem

    Fun to watch and informative. Thanks!

  • @wolfcat7begay791
    @wolfcat7begay791 Před rokem

    Thanks for showing the whole process

  • @user-dc7wg1je3c
    @user-dc7wg1je3c Před 11 měsíci

    Wow, I really appreciate having no timelapse. These videos usually speed through the parts that require the most precision!!

  • @bigbob9702
    @bigbob9702 Před rokem

    I do enjoy real time. Thanks

  • @SomeRandomOldGuy
    @SomeRandomOldGuy Před rokem

    Thanks Isaac. Love the real time video. So helpful. (I call it "the wiggle tool" or "Mr. Wizzer")

  • @vsendyk
    @vsendyk Před rokem +4

    to keep the line around, I put the laser level on the drain, set the elevation 3/4 of the way from the drain and then I always have a line.
    I use Huepar 503DG. It is good because the horizontal line is low (about 1/4 from the floor)

    • @rxcalvosa
      @rxcalvosa Před 6 měsíci

      That's fine, as long as the drain is dead level.

  • @clacicle
    @clacicle Před rokem

    This was very satisfying to watch.

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem

      Glad you liked it...I will do more!

  • @larryfeeks6620
    @larryfeeks6620 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @beanieweenie9543
    @beanieweenie9543 Před rokem

    Love that steel trowel asmr!

  • @NockOn1
    @NockOn1 Před rokem

    Damn, you make it look so easy 👍

  • @eric4brs
    @eric4brs Před rokem

    The way you placed the knee pads was genius.

  • @omidrezania7824
    @omidrezania7824 Před 4 měsíci

    So usefull, thanks boss

  • @benjaminwilson869
    @benjaminwilson869 Před 9 měsíci

    When I grow up, I’ll make mud beds as smooth as you, Isaac 🥲

  • @jcuhl387
    @jcuhl387 Před rokem +3

    This video is a huge help! Could you show the waterproofing details for a mud bed like this?

  • @1330ronal
    @1330ronal Před rokem

    Deck mud take time and a lot skills good job

  • @alexmanns9658
    @alexmanns9658 Před rokem

    That auger bit is awesome ! I bought one a few years back probably the same exact one you have there. It makes a perfect consistency and the shovel has been collecting dust ever since.

  • @sw4943
    @sw4943 Před rokem

    Another great job, u been hitting the gym aswell buddy by the look of those arms 💪🏾

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      I have been going to the gym for the first time since college football! Enjoying feeling strong again

  • @beerdrinker2001
    @beerdrinker2001 Před rokem

    Tile coach is getting yolked 💪

  • @NoomClara
    @NoomClara Před 11 měsíci

    THANK YOU FOR NO TIME LAPSE, SO I CAN SIT AND WATCH WITH MY MOUTH AGAPE LIKE AN OG APPRENTICE SHOULD.

  • @victorgarrido9786
    @victorgarrido9786 Před rokem

    Very informative video....Any comments about using hardie backer board hydrodefense on the floor inside the shower?

  • @Tyler-sv4sw
    @Tyler-sv4sw Před rokem

    That drill is great I use to have it. Better than plug in and cord

  • @CDCHI609
    @CDCHI609 Před 6 měsíci +1

    great content as usual! How thick is the deck mud usually at the drain?

  • @spikeklein2196
    @spikeklein2196 Před rokem

    From all of us visual learners out here, thank you!

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed Před 3 měsíci

    Was that a Kirk Giordano reference at 9:54 ? 😉 He's also the man!

  • @daveg3235
    @daveg3235 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Is the concrete already sloped in the very beginning before adding the deck mud?

  • @shstovall
    @shstovall Před rokem

    Waiting for my floor to cure so I can do this next step! Is there an advantage of using a wood float over a magnesium float for the shower pan? Thanks for all you do!

  • @bearpaw9204
    @bearpaw9204 Před rokem

    Just starting to work on bathroom that had zero waterproofing. My question, at what stage do you waterproof shower wall if you float it? I want to use hardie board, then float, and use Hydro Ban...but I don't know at what stage to add it? Does it go on the hardie board before floating, or on top of the floated wall? Thanks for all your videos, been a HUGE help.

  • @ethanmakai
    @ethanmakai Před rokem +2

    I e watched a thousand shower build videos in preparation of doing my own. Since everyone has different opinions I wanted to watch as many as possible so I can try and make the best decisions for myself and get the best outcome possible. I really like your videos and I think I want to go with this dry pack version with the flow fx drain and hydro ban liquid water barrier. I wish I could find a video of yours that goes start to finish with this method from nothing to completely finished shower. Do you have a video like that that I'm missing? Or could you make one like that?

  • @matthalby1157
    @matthalby1157 Před rokem +1

    how high above the concrete do yo typically want to set the flo fx drain so that you have a thick enough amount of deck mud at drain

  • @tofuroshi
    @tofuroshi Před rokem

    Isaac, have you tried Go Board? Would love to see a video on it.

  • @marcg3191
    @marcg3191 Před rokem

    Is there a video showing you setting that style shower drain?

  • @user-sv5vv4uq1z
    @user-sv5vv4uq1z Před 9 měsíci

    Zack wish you were in Florida. I have a shower to be finished

  • @dbeaulieu9730
    @dbeaulieu9730 Před rokem

    I wonder if you could make mention in one of your videos about the importance of not making the slab too thick. I recently took over from another installer who had made his 6 inches thick in an apartment building. I am very concerned about the potential problem in the future apart from the cracking of the slab.

  • @larrys5733
    @larrys5733 Před rokem

    I wish the flo fx drain had a 1\4 slope built into the flange. It is pretty flat and can ever so slightly cause the last bits of water to stay near the drain and not fall in if your using penny or pebble tile.
    Any tricks to help avoid that?

  • @homerdoh56
    @homerdoh56 Před rokem

    Hi Isaac, are there any work around a for a shower drain through a concrete slab that isn’t plumb? I got the flofx drain flange from you, but after test fitting, the PVC drain needs to be straightened. Is my only option to knock out the concrete and have it redone? I have about 2” of exposed pipe I can mess with if there are work around. Thanks!

  • @deborahnucci2569
    @deborahnucci2569 Před rokem

    Does it matter if you use modified or unmodified thin set on your flowfx to adhere it to the bed?

  • @timothyeliason8844
    @timothyeliason8844 Před 8 měsíci

    Can foam curbs be cut at different angles to install in shower pans that are not square? Do you have a video that explains that?

  • @javierhernandez996
    @javierhernandez996 Před měsícem

    Is better to use a wood floater or metal floater ? Or basically you can use both

  • @akextremerickert
    @akextremerickert Před rokem

    Hi I'm a tile guy here in Montana. I still use the deck mud system with hydro ban over the top. Do you prefer this method over other methods?

  • @Ant21toineg
    @Ant21toineg Před rokem

    Can you show a concrete only shower pan with waterproofing and / or a stamped concrete shower pan.

  • @donbritton3629
    @donbritton3629 Před rokem

    Isaac, I am planning on doing a small shower base with your dry pad method and Flo FX drain. A. Do you ship to Canada? Have you had any exposure to Wilsonart’s Wetwall system?
    I would appreciate any of your thoughts on it.

  • @rugerdogg5316
    @rugerdogg5316 Před 2 měsíci

    Can I put the slurry on concrete that has been sealed

  • @BR-il9vl
    @BR-il9vl Před 4 měsíci

    Hey Isaac , which method do you prefer, mud base or pre fab base?

  • @Ralphy991
    @Ralphy991 Před rokem

    Please send link
    for auger bit!

  • @toddmccormick8363
    @toddmccormick8363 Před rokem

    Awesome vid Isaac! Please let me know where I can get one of those Flo X levels😂

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      order a drain and you get the sticker!

  • @phildo3668
    @phildo3668 Před rokem

    We only get Mapei 4:1 deckmud here and no plaster sand anywhere. What's a good sand to cut the Mapei with from a box store?

  • @SteveGarcia-ye9ji
    @SteveGarcia-ye9ji Před 3 měsíci

    How high you lift flange from existing concrete. What if is a regular drain how high you set it from existing concrete.

  • @vby9588
    @vby9588 Před rokem

    from my experience best mud is made by Laticrete. I think you should spray some water and cover it with plastic film, that's how i always do it.

  • @mrscott01
    @mrscott01 Před 11 měsíci

    Where did you get the rubber buckets?

  • @ChiChiLeeVT
    @ChiChiLeeVT Před rokem

    HELP! I used this method for building my shower pre-slope, but the surface of the dry-pack was so crumbly when it dried! There was a layer of sandy material over the top that could just be brushed away. What did I do wrong and is there a way to fix it without breaking up the whole pre-slope and starting over? Thanks!

  • @Kornelius1972
    @Kornelius1972 Před rokem

    Is deck mud the same as sand topping mix ?

  • @sampon9328
    @sampon9328 Před rokem

    i call it a oscillating tool. But to my young helper i call it "the thing that goes verrrrrr" lol great help just doesn't know his tools yet.

  • @mikehomsley4541
    @mikehomsley4541 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate your videos! You have said before regarding deck mud most ratio is 4 to 1, why do you like 5 to 1 ?

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      Easier to work with and can use more water if needed.

  • @leahromay7462
    @leahromay7462 Před rokem

    Hi Isaac, I have watched a bunch of your videos for my DIY shower project. I bought the flow fx drain from you as I watched your video on how to do the easy deck mud slope using the strips around the border and I liked that concept. However, I am not 100% sure of my plan. I have a plywood subfloor. I'm seeing in this video you have a concrete floor and put the thin set and then the deck mud (just as you said to do in that other video). Conversely, it seems like when the floor is wood, that I should do a preslope, then a PVC liner, and then the deck mud? I am wondering how the Flow Fx drain works with the pvc liner, as you put the mud up under it, but with the liner you need to have weep holes. If you could help me, my questions are what are the actual order of layers I should be doing: 1) Plywood, tar paper and mesh, deck mud, hydroban? Or 2) plywood, preslope, pvc liner, deck mud? I also don't understand if the cement board on the walls should be touching the deck mud, i see a lot of comments about leaving a gap, but then how do you tile the gap? Lastly, do I wrap the curb in cement board? Your help is greatly appreciated!!! Thank you so much!

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      It sounds like you could use a tile coaching session! But you don’t use a pvc liner with a Flofx. You do however use lath on plywood under the dry pack.

  • @bigbob9702
    @bigbob9702 Před rokem

    Will you show next step real time as well?? I for one would love to see it. Thx!!

  • @klaytee7787
    @klaytee7787 Před rokem

    Is the backer board designed to be in contact with mud? I know backer board is water resistant but not waterproof. Let me know

  • @michaelbox7285
    @michaelbox7285 Před 3 měsíci

    You don't need a rubber liner under there?

  • @travisk5589
    @travisk5589 Před rokem

    Are those tile coach skivvies?

  • @SoCalKen
    @SoCalKen Před rokem

    So what's the next step RSS walls > DeckMud pan > ? Does the pan get Hydro Ban up the walls?

  • @davidbareither8562
    @davidbareither8562 Před rokem +1

    What's the thickness of the mud bed under the flo fx out of curiosity? I've heard some folks go as thin as 1/2 inch which seemed thin to me but not sure.

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      I like about an inch...but 3/4" minimum on plywood subfloor (with lath) and 1/2" on slab. Could go lower on slab if needed since its bonded to the slab. But hard to work the mud and get it smooth.

  • @asifiqbal2
    @asifiqbal2 Před rokem

    Coach: Just curious why not use the crack resistant concrete mix instead of deck mud which is brittle and can crack, not to mention more porous? I am getting ready to do a shower for the first time and all these videos on YT basically says every system can fail. I loved your video about Kerdi foam pre sloped pan where the hammer drop ruined the foam. I don’t know why anyone would use foam under tile which can crack easily. That’s what got me thinking about concrete.

    • @calvinhobbes6118
      @calvinhobbes6118 Před 3 měsíci

      Good luck trying to form concrete mix, its so wet and it wants to slump. They use 4:1 or 5:1 mix because the sand in it makes it easier to form, like sandcastles at the beach.

  • @darwinbodero7872
    @darwinbodero7872 Před rokem

    Hey Isaac. I built my deck mud pan before putting on the durock walls. Should I leave a gap between the pan and the backer board or place it directly on top of the pan? I intend to use hydroban sheet membrane. Any advice would be appreciated.

    • @1smhs
      @1smhs Před 8 měsíci +1

      A bit late on advice but the sage advice is that if you put the backer board below the water level it may wick water up the board… I feel like hardi board would probably have a bigger issue due to the amount of cellulose in the board… durock probably less of an issue… the hardi board I left outside last season is covered in black mold

    • @darwinbodero7872
      @darwinbodero7872 Před 8 měsíci

      @@1smhs I ended up putting it above the mud pan

  • @abarragan951
    @abarragan951 Před 10 měsíci

    Issac. I did my own mud pan using the deck mud bags from home depot. I noticed the bag said if it wasnt tiled over with in 24 hrs then you have to wait 28 days for it to cure? Seems like a lot of time. I did mine firday afternoon and i still have to finsh my sealing before i can tile. Do i really need to wait the 28 days? If any one else has delt with this please let me know. Thank issac. Keep posting vids. I too went with the flofx cuz of yiur videos. Im about to retire from law enforcement in two more Mays and im really contemplating doing bathroom remodles. Its a ton of hard work but very satisfying

    • @calvinhobbes6118
      @calvinhobbes6118 Před 3 měsíci

      Call the manufacturer, but I believe thats if you dont put a liquid membrane over it. You can also put down a thin layer of thinset over the mudpack, let it dry, then tile over it.
      Back in the day they would immediately install the tile straight on to the mudpack and be done with it, now we have thinset mortar which is much better.

  • @beanieweenie9543
    @beanieweenie9543 Před rokem +2

    How long of a work time do you have with deck mud?

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem

      Depends on temperature...but usually about an hour or so

  • @joeburly
    @joeburly Před rokem

    Did you do the rest of this work? If so are there videos?

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +1

      I waterproofed it. That video will be coming up

  • @frankcatrini4816
    @frankcatrini4816 Před rokem +1

    so in a schluter type system is water penetrating shower floor tiles and grout and draining into drain from under surface (between the underside of tile and cloth) or is all the water simply draining on the surface to drain?

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem

      The water evaporates back up through the grout

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem +1

      most of the water drains off the surface of the tiles to the drain. of the small amounts of water that penetrate the grout lines: if it becomes really saturated with water, then some water will drain into drain from under surface (between the underside of tile and cloth). The rest of the minimal moisture that isnt enough to drain, evaporates and dries out from the grout lines.

    • @fctazz
      @fctazz Před rokem +1

      @@conradcoolerfiend i ask because I have never done a bonded drain type shower but find it interesting. In my 40 plus years of full time tiling have only done liner pans here in fl. I dont think at this point I will change, as in the hundreds of showers I have done, I have not had even one call back. What got me curious is I often here setters mixing the 2 systems together , like using liquid membrane over a 3 piece drain system and what I hear most is "dont do it because it causes a moisture sandwich " that got me to think why would it be that in that situation but not if there is cloth underneath and I just can't see why it would be with a liquid membrane underneath compared to a cloth, as they both are stopping water at that area...now if indeed alot is traveling under a cloth system to drain, I can see it escaping into drain unlike the liquid because at that point water basically has no where to go, unless you didn't put liquid in the area around drain and in that case it could possibly drain down to weep holes...anyways thats for the response

  • @joncastle2546
    @joncastle2546 Před rokem

    👍

  • @stephenedwards9872
    @stephenedwards9872 Před rokem

    Hallo from the uk
    Why don't people use a plastic shower tray like in the uk

  • @michaelmaimone13
    @michaelmaimone13 Před rokem

    I call it a flush cut saw

  • @jeffhamann5178
    @jeffhamann5178 Před rokem

    not saying im any better than anyone, but i was tolled the biggest no no was putting backer behind wet bed. it gives the water a path .

  • @TonyVM775
    @TonyVM775 Před rokem

    Don’t mind me. I’m jus watching some guy float a pan like I do once a week for the past 5 years. Lmao

  • @disel1983va
    @disel1983va Před rokem

    HI TILE COACH WHOW I CAN GET THIS TUPE OF DECK MUD IN MARYLAND??

  • @andrewbassett709
    @andrewbassett709 Před rokem

    I recently built a shower pan with deck mud and a flofx drain just like this shower. I waited for it to cure for 7 days and then I applied henrys feather edge over the top to smooth out the finish and ran it over all of the deck mud to the flow fx drain. I then waited for it to cure and applied three layers of Hyrdo Ban waterproofing all the way from the top of the walls and over the flofx drain up to the square drain hole. Once the waterproofing was dried i did a flood test. During the first several hours of the flood test I lost about an inch of water before it held. I don't know where the water went in those first two hours. The shower pan is 70in x 42in so there was quite a bit of water lost. The p-trap under the shower was dry so my stop wasn't leaking and the there is no visible water in the crawl space or coming out along the walls. Could the lost water have some how soaked through the hydro ban to the cement and been absorbed? Anyone have any idea where I should go from here? The water level where its currently holding is about 3in deep. Looking along the perimeter I don't see any perforations in the waterproofing so I don't know how I could have lost the water. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I need some help troubleshooting this. I'm holding off from tiling until I figure this out obviously. Many Thanks!

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem

      Hydro Ban must of leaked. Did you do two good coats? Should have dried about the thickness of a credit card.
      At this point, I would use RSS sheet membrane on the pan with corners, and band to 2-1/2” up the walls and curb.
      I sell it on tilecoach.com by the foot.

    • @andrewbassett709
      @andrewbassett709 Před rokem

      @@TileCoach Thank you so much for the response! I gave it two really good coats in the pan and up about 8 in. Higher up it gets a little thinner. I assumed there is a perforation somewhere right at the level where it's holding. I just need to look it over more closely. I will purchase the rss membrane off your site. Can I install it over hydroban? What should I do about the lost water that I can't find? Thanks again for all you do and for the reply. You're amazing!

  • @davidfigliola7297
    @davidfigliola7297 Před rokem

    Coach, how were you able to not use a liner between the slab and deck mud? Won’t water absorb through the deck mud to the slab?

    • @vby9588
      @vby9588 Před rokem

      surface waterproofing. just Google it

    • @davidherd3739
      @davidherd3739 Před rokem

      Yup, this is a different system than you’re thinking, David. A bonded sealed system is different than a traditional “water-in-water-out” with weep holes

    • @davidfigliola7297
      @davidfigliola7297 Před rokem

      David, thank you for the explanation. I researched both methods and now fully understand the difference. After watching so many videos of shower installs, pre-slopes, water proofing techniques, etc., nobody has taken the time to call out the name or technically (named) difference between methods. Very clear and easy to understand now.

  • @5firebird
    @5firebird Před 6 měsíci

    How much work time do you have with the deck mud?

  • @acemastermatt
    @acemastermatt Před rokem +2

    Since the walls are already waterproof, what are you going to waterproof the pan with?

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem

      sheet membrane

    • @acemastermatt
      @acemastermatt Před rokem +1

      @Conrad Coolerfiend inwas thinking a liquid membrane

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem +1

      @@acemastermatt I wouldn’t reccomend it cause it’s inconsistent and more prone to variance causing leakage. Sheet membranes are consistent and foolproof

  • @MrFishone777
    @MrFishone777 Před rokem

    I’m rebuilding a fail shower on a slab. How thin would be to thin for deck mud?

    • @sampon9328
      @sampon9328 Před rokem

      read the bag of the material you're using. it'll tell you minimum thickness

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem

      1/2" on concrete, 3/4" on plywood with lathe. to be safe and extra strong use 1 inch

    • @MrFishone777
      @MrFishone777 Před rokem

      @@conradcoolerfiend thanks that helpful. I have to cut and break out a failed shower pan. Looks like they poured concrete and used mastic instead of thin set. It’s only two years old.

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem

      @@MrFishone777 yikes, mastic is not ok for wet areas!

    • @MrFishone777
      @MrFishone777 Před rokem

      @@conradcoolerfiend not only that but the slope was wrong and water was getting outside on the floor.

  • @wescarnehl3480
    @wescarnehl3480 Před rokem +1

    What ever happened to chopping mud in a wheelbarrow

  • @dustyflair
    @dustyflair Před rokem

    I personally dont like to see the bench as part of the curb.. If the seat leaks into the room, good GOD!!!

  • @rd7385
    @rd7385 Před rokem

    0:54 bro, first edit not even a minute in. Love ya tho

    • @TileCoach
      @TileCoach  Před rokem +2

      You know what I meant haha. Love you too man.

    • @rd7385
      @rd7385 Před rokem

      @@TileCoach all love. Just joking you. Great content as always.

  • @georgesavino4273
    @georgesavino4273 Před rokem

    Why a mud job over a slab?

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před rokem

      vs foam? cheaper, stronger, and easier to make fit any space.

  • @Astro25man
    @Astro25man Před rokem

    Do you really have to lay concrete down first on top of plywood? Can’t you just put down your shower pan vinyl and then your deck mud on top of the vinyl pan?

    • @ohokayofficial
      @ohokayofficial Před rokem

      (Tile apprentice 2 years) A lot of showers we’ve come across and tear out - have no mud underneath their vinyl pan
      It is very wise to do a pre float before your showerpan 💪🏽🙌🏽 learned from a master tile setter