SawBlaze vs Razorback | Season 2 Qualifying Round | BattleBots
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It's Robot Fighting Time!
This clip is on the highlighted fights from Season 2's Qualifying Round: SawBlaze vs Razorback.
Please note this fight contains unmixed arena audio only
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Show Synopsis: With all the thrills and edge-of-your-seat tension of a major sporting tournament, combined with the latest in robot engineering and larger-than-life inventors, BattleBots has viewers of all ages gripped.
In pairs, bot inventors go head-to-head inside the perilous and bullet-proof BattleBot arena, with the aim of destroying or completely disabling their opponent’s machine.
During each episode, we meet the creators behind these awesome machines. From amateurs and super-smart technology students to seasoned professionals who have dedicated their lives to creating the ultimate fighting robot, find out what drives these charismatic inventors, and how they turn their visions into supreme battling robots.
Who will go home with the spectacular BattleBots trophy?
Clear win for Sawblaze. What were the judges thinking?
May be its a big shot's play toy....
No way to win the battle
maybe because they thought razorback was dealing damage when he was being pinned to the walls and his spinner going against sawblazes's wedge. i wouldn't call that damage though, sawblaze clearly won with aggression and control.
Oh my goodness, Lindybeige! Fancy seeing you here.
What are you doing round here mam
Sawblade controlled the match, but Razorback actually did damage to Sawblade. It’s not enough to just push the other bot around the entire round. Also, it looks like Sawblade’s main weapon died partway through the match while Razorblade was fully operational at the end of the match.
Though the whole fight I was like "JUST HIT HIM WITH THE DAMN SAW!"
It broke, The saw hit razors drum spinner and it broke something in the mechanism.
yeah man, it started at 1:33 good eyes
Bad construction :v
dead short may be
Piotr Pajewski it was broken
You can see how the SawBlaze team is like: "Wait, wtf??" at the end.
It’s the same thing with kraken he had control but no damage done in the against someone he lost even with completely control he still did nothing with the primary weapon and razor backs amor brok the primary weapon on saw blaze so plss stop being mad over a bot battle
@@AA-ronPlayz its been five years, I'm pretty sure he's "stopped being mad over a bot battle".
@@papercrowe8772 didn’t read that I was copying and pasting
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sawblaze had complete control over the entire fight. Maybe it didn't do much damage, but neither did razorback. Sawblaze pushed razorback around like a rag doll.
There are no points for pushing or "control". Judges want to see active use of weapons, and Razorbacks weapon hit SB many times, whie SB only hit Razorback once.
Else it'd become a fight of cubes pushing eachother.
Booriing.
I'd rather see two boxes push each other around than a rigged match, honestly. It's not exciting when you know who's going to win just because one robot is a spinner.
VestedUTuber
You''d seriously just sit and watch two boxes pushing around because someone couldn't make a decent weapon?
migueeeelet
As long as the competition isn't rigged, I'm fine with it. Besides, if you think that such a match can't be exciting, you haven't seen any of the fast-paced matches that happen at Robogames - MOST of the "box on wheels" designs are capable of hitting speeds of up to 20 MPH, and the heavyweights can easily cause the entire arena to shake when they slam against the walls. There are a few slow bots of this design but they never really get far in the brackets.
Imagine looking at this and going like "Ahh yes, Razorback won."
It’s the same thing with kraken he had control but no damage done in the against someone he lost even with completely control he still did nothing with the primary weapon and razor backs amor brok the primary weapon on saw blaze so plss stop being mad over a bot battle
Woy bro aku zacky teman mu
@@AA-ronPlayz "Stop being mad over a bot battle," says the angry reply commenter to someone's opinion that was over a year old. Bro, you're so angry, you can't even type with punctuation.
Saw blaze didn’t use their main weapon much, only once in fact.
@@Max-mn8so lol I only use commas exclamation marks question marks and occasionally periods the comments section isn’t an essay paper lol 😂
sawblade was playing with razorback like it was a toy how did they win..
no destruction? wedge and control all you want, if he has a working bot, and his opponent has a broken main weapon and a chewed up wedge, he's gettin' some points. He may not ALWAYS win, because his opponent has got a decent strat, which counts for something, but...
This is bullshit, like the 30 second only hold rule they apparently have. If someone can immobilize you for >30 seconds you deserve to lose...
unfortunately, the action of sawblaze somehow make razorback looks like a chump and make saw blaze looks like a jerk, the judge of course are also emotional human beings, they sympathize with the razorback team and call them the winner.
Razorback won because its primary weapon was still working through the entirety of the match. Sawblaze's primary weapon broke down early on and was reduced to being an over sized wedge bot.
The people who make the rules believe it should be a spectacle sport. That's why entanglement is not allowed, that's why EMP isn't allowed, and that's why the hold rule is in place. Watch "complete control" and his match, you can get a LOT done in 30 sec.
did razorback fight? all I saw was running
It's like Mayweather all over again.
LMMFAO
"Saw" hehehehehe
I really don't see how Razorback won at all. Sawblaze was shoving it around the entire match while Razorback was only able to get a few digs on the Dustpan. Bad decision.
sawblaze also had a way better driver. I'm interested to see how razorback does though, it seems like a very hardy bot
The judging criteria was changed after last years lashback to robots which have no intention of using their "weapons" from winning via judges. Bite"Shove"Force was the prime example of this.
Bruce Pitt Jr He effectively either needs to have scored significant points before the weapon breaks - or win by KO. His weapon wasnt broken as he could still use the tail but chose not to - hence was punished as such.
I also do not understand how this victory was defined
@@cassio2039 by points in 3 categories. Damage, control, and aggression. Saw blaze won control fight. However, in the rules aggression points can't be earned without use of an active weapon. Its like this to prevent hordes of wedgebots with no damaging weapons like in the old show. So saw blaze wedging razorback around isn't considered agressive. Also their saw was inactive very early on. So razorback won out because of the aggression and damage categories. Not because they did a lot of it but because their weapon was working and being used. And they probably gave razorback damage points for knocking saw blaze's weapon early on.
sawblaze should be winner, better control, more active, attacking whole match.
well, usage of weapon is the main judging criteria this season.
saw users should use their saws while flipper class should use their flipping stuff to flip for points
Sawblaze din't read the rules.
Sawblades main weapon went bust. Should they forfeit the second their main weapon goes out because it is a sure loss anyway?
Unfortunately , the weapon is broken
It's like two bots perfectly designed to not damage each other.
Not really. Sawblaze could did massive damage with the saw. For whatever reason he only used the saw once. Deserve to lose and glad he did.
This is most definately the most controversial decision ever. i mean EVER. Razorback never had a chance to beat that Sawblaze with that Drum spinner. It just keep running and being pushing into the wall.
Y'all ignorant goofs should educate yourself about the rules before typing shit under the videos about things you don't understand.
Just like in boxing and MMA, evey time you hit the opponent you score POINTS. It doesn't matter if you never come close to ko your opponet- you can still win a decision on points.
Now rewatch the video. Every time you hear that buzzing sound, that's Razorback's spinning drum connecting and scoring points. Razorback actually hit the opponent instead of just pushing them around.
It's a close but deserved win.
@@Narcan885 what are you saying win the match with every hits? This is not boxing or mma. this is a sport where the criteria are based on 3 points for damage, 2 points for aggression and 2 points for control. i don't see the RazorBack fighting aggressively and i also don't see good driving control. All I saw was damage to the Sawblaze's main weapon. But the Razorback also suffered damage to its spinner drum. This is a mistake.
@@saurophaganaxgaming7878 Oh, so suddenly you remembered there are other criterias for winning other than "damage"? Cool! Glad to be of help
So tell me what damage Razorback did to Sawblaze? scratches to the wedge?
@@saurophaganaxgaming7878 Lmao there's nothing to do, your brain simply can't accept and understand the concept of "points". It's okay, maybe you should focus on simpler things.
This result is total garbage. Not only was sawblaze in control for the entire match, razorback's weapon stopped working too. Razorback was just plain outbuilt, outdriven, and outfought.
I have to agree with Jessica Chobot on this. Wow, that's weird to say.
How did Sawblaze not receive a wildcard?
I think sawblaze should of got a wild card instead of that lady bug bot (always forget it's name, megatento or something)
It was all scored by battlebots' rules of engagement for season 2. Pushing is not considered aggression, which meant that if Sawblaze used it's SAW more, then it probably would have won. But considering Razorbacks drum spinner was constantly on and getting a few hits, there were more points awarded to the team. Hence it's all about the rules & stipulations that win a fight.
+Sir Torrance adding to that, sawblaze had his saw broken
Sawblaze definitely should've been awarded a WC, but according to Jamison Go (its builder) it was the first "backup wildcard" in the instance one of the selected 8 were unable to get ready for their next match.
cause bombshell has lots of weapons - nightmare, overhaul, lock jaw and ghost raptor are all veterans who have done well in the past - mega tento is a heavyweight tentomushi - lucky c lost a closer match than sawblaze or disk o inferno (apparently) - blacksmith cause its weapon looks cool
Uhm did I miss the part where Razorback was actually doing anything apart from being pushed around? I mean SawBlaze blade broke but not even from an attack or sth??
WTF! Dustpan was the winner whole game!
If this was Season 1, Sawblaze would've won this.
And if these rules were in place during S1, Bite Force never would've won.
+Danielle Flannery (Shaba117) Bite force's grappler never broke the first time they used it.
Not broken, just when Paul decided to remove it for certain matches.
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I didn't have much faith in SawBlaze at first, but after seeing how agile that bot is and how the driver absolutely dominated, I will admit my error. SawBlaze should have won. I like Razorback too but I can't even imagine how the judges scored them to win this.
And then 5 years later, SawBlaze wins it all, it is kind of amazing, how much they have improved, from being just a gimmick bot, to real competitor and potential meta breaker.
pushing another bot around is not dominating. they score based on weapon usage. and the one that lost had it's weapon break while the one being pushed around was still using it's weapon the entire match. pushing the robot into the wall is like the equivalent of boxers hugging eachother, no points are earned from that
I'm thinking he lost because of the weapon problem- but after having control for the whole match? What's wrong with these judges?
Its the judging criteria - its designed so you cant just choose to not use your weapon and use a wedge instead as it was heavily complained about last year
Because in the end razorback was undamaged and sawblaze lost its main weapon. Using a wedge is bad for TV ratings
Colonel Sanders but sawblaze also scored points with the hammer and how didn’t they win by that either sawblaze had complete control in that fight it might of lost it’s weapon but still should of won
@@bankai4735 for a bot to get damage points from the pulverizers, wouldn't they actually have to *hit* with the pulverizers?
-because you're totally doing something by pushing the bot into the side of the hammer-
This fight was the most controversial match of the tournament. Between seasons we changed the judging definition of Aggressions to include: "Attacking with a wedge or other passive armor is considered to be a defensive action and does not count toward Aggression. Continuous attacks without using a powered weapon can reduce a Robot’s Aggression score."
We simply do NOT want fights to diminish into push fights. We want the robots to use their active weapons (be that a spinner, lifter, launcher, hammer, grappler, or whatever) SawBlaze won ALL the Control points and most of the Strategy points, but he did NO Damage and he was a wedge for the majority of the fight. Discuss below.
Please change this back. It diminishes driver skill so much...
Also nearly noone likes it, not even the audience. I hope you listen to your fans for next season. Otherwise great show keep it up!
The judging criteria should be some were in between season 1 and 2 I know you don't want the fights to be pushing matches but this is just ridiculous.
How does an unwillingness to actually use their primary weapon show driver skill?
If you want to see a good driver, look at Stinger. That guy knows how to do be effective and showy at the same time.
I my opinion that rule is stupid, aggression is aggression as long as the robot is being aggressive i.e. pushing them about/ into hazards, using the weapons they are aggressive, if they was keeping back and running away then they are not aggressive.
James Booth
Too bad that there was not a single instance of SawBlade successfully pushing Razorback into a hazard. Even the hammer missed.
Really digging the no nonsense audio here.
Much less headache inducing.
(SPOILER FOR SEASON 7 YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED)
After watching the season 7 finale, it feels shocking knowing that this is Sawblaze's first fight were he loses and would later go on to be the champion 6 years later.
Love that big dustpan on SawBlaze. It says to the opponent, "Your robot is junk and I'm here to sweep the arena." It's come a long way since.
I can see why they won. The blade for SawBlaze wasn't spinning and so I believe it broke in some way. Razorback didn't take any noticeable damage even though it was pushed around a bit.
Razorbacks weapon looked like it broke down in the middle of the fight.
More specifically, when Sawblade brought the arm down after pinning them against the wall, the blade made contact with the drum.
That easily looks like Sawblaze dominated that match. The fact that it's completely out is total garbage and yet you have bots like Ghost Raptor and Overhaul that got KO'd get wild cards. These criteria for judging these fights and picking the extra bots from the qualifiers are all out of whack.
The Wildcards are producer interference remember, to get picked your robot needs to look good.
Also the judging criteria is well intentioned to solve the issues of S1
to be fair overhaul got the wildcard because producer carelessnes is the reason they lost in the first place.
@@Garfie489 you want producer interference? look at the chomp and razorback seedings compared to warhead.
Razorback: I'm gonna put the achin in the bacon. This lil piggy's gonna make you go weeee weeee weeee all the way home!
(Moments later)
Sawblaze: I'm gonna make u my bacon u lil piggy
how on earth did sawblaze lose this one??
no chance that razorback should have won
Sawblade used its weapon just one time and only scratched the paint.
If they had actually used their weapon, they would have won. This isn't just a tournament, it's a show. To win, you have to play to the audience. Sawblade failed there.
+Steamrick the only thing these boring motorized dust pans will ever destroy is the BB ratings.
but not all bots have weapons?
Steamrick is right.. it's all about how many times the primary weapon is used, sawblaze is just another wedge without its primary.
all competitors have to have an active weapon for BB
Yes, please reverse the change in Judges' decisions, SawBlaze and Disk O'Inferno were both cheated, and both should've received wildcards as an apology. Still a great series, just with a couple of questionable decisions
for now. wait for the end of the season and the full impact of the rule change can be seen
Waited for the end of the season, and the damage done by the rule change is more clear than ever.
Yeah Disc O' Inferno got a split decision and never got a wildcard, and versed a really strong weapon that ended up beating the previous season's champion
Your terminated taleofthetoaster
Crazy to come back to this after seeing sawblaze dominate in season 6 this year
Gotta say, I miss the commentary.
+HNTR KLLR I dont think so, I ts so silent and I think it is a little boring, why is There no commentary, can somebody explain that to me ?
I think they are trying to encourage us to watch the show so they withold some of the features of the show in the videos on here. I guess they are like tasters. You either have to watch the show or try to find the fights elsewhere on CZcams.
I think they are trying to encourage us to watch the show so they withold some of the features of the show in the videos on here. I guess they are like tasters. You either have to watch the show or try to find the fights elsewhere on CZcams.
The criteria is 3 for damage, 2 for control and 2 for aggression. The damage can be debateable but it was clearly saw blazing control the entire pace of the match and being hyper aggressive. Even if the damage was 0-3 to Razorback, it should’ve been 4-3 to the final score and saw blaze win...
I think they probably gave 1 aggression point to razorback
Realised how much commentry gives life to it
thank you for uploading the unaired matches!
“Don’t blaze me bro” that honestly got a chuckle out of me
This was fascinating, not having the commentary and crowd noise! You realize how important they are to the experience!
Oh, and Sawblaze won, no doubt!
...and so, how did sawblaze not get a wildcard spot???
Saw blaze didn’t use it’s weapon. Maybe that’s why it lost.
My guess for this judgement is that Sawblaze's disc buckling after coming down on Razorback's drum spinner was seen by the judges as damage that Razorback inflicted on Sawblaze, hence the match being awarded to Razorback.
I still think Sawblaze should have won - it was the far more aggressive of the two competitors and controlled the fight magnificently
Thank you for the robot competition! Enjoying the battles!
The driver of Sawblade is amazing, with driving skills he can compete with witchdoctor! Now he only need a better bot with stronger primary weapon but that is a very nice wedge design!
wow not having the other 'tv show' crap makes such a huge difference.. my brain and ears thank you for uploading this version!!!!!!!!!!!
Did the judges watch the same fight I did? Sawblaze owned Razorback the entire match! That fight was rigged!!!
Am I the only one missing those
'*Awws and Ohhhhs*'?
This is so much better than with the presenters and bullshit on ABC. This dozer design seems to be a good protections agianst a barrel spinner.
Nothing better than the sound of 2 Power Tools going at each other
SawBlaze will do well the next season. I know it will. Also does anyone realize it looks a lot like Skorpios? Also, Fon and Adam, what were you thinking? I both know you created masterpieces Mouser Mecha-Catbot and Blendo, but really, _what were you both thinking?_
It actually looks like Razorback inflicted more damage to SawBlaze just by being pushed around.
There should be a Battlebots videogame . .. .
There was one for like, the gameboy advanced a long time ago that was very meh that i played. There was also a gamecube and PS2 game that I never played.
Robot Arena 2 is currently considered the best and Robot Arena 3 is currently being worked on.
robot arena 2 dude its super good game, creative, and destructive
and yea i still dont know how to play online trough :v i want to fight people
their is.
two actualy
Razorback got to use the primary weapon more. I think that’s what made it swing to them.
WRONG WINNER!!
Glad they lost.
"What's our strat guys?" "Let's push him around a lot and do no damage."
Their weapon broke so they didn't exactly have another choice
@@erika7369 And whats your strategy
Run away, do nothing except pay judges to chose you as the winner.
Watching this really makes you appreciate the commentary.
Those MIT kids looked shocked LOL
Norris Vaughn III at least they weren’t too salty (Jamison even shrugged Lockjaws late hit last year)
Razorback won... wait, what?! WTF?!
Never let it go to the judges.
So weird without the audience sound... but you can appreciate the hits more.
Razorback has a working main weapon by the end. SawBlaze lost their main weapon very early on. The way the judges take gaining points into account is by damage by the main weapon.
Kinda explains the weird decisions at the end but whatever.
But Razorback got dominated and never did anything after that!
Well, it lost its weapon at the end... But yeah. It's an interesting case.
Robot Wars...Way better. Things actually Happen. HYPE for the new series this year!
pretty weak fight. no one is really doing damage. but i know you dont want to get destroyed before the actual fight.
If they existed at this time, SawBlaze would have pulled out that appeal like an uno reverse card
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo judges
I know thers people saying in the comments they miss the commentary but i dont really mind no commentary because in the end u come to watch the bots fight not 2 people trying to be funny, listen i like the commentary but if it was gone, i wouldnt really mind and besides, no commentary means that u can watch the fights peacefully and hear the carnage good in the Battlebox
Wtf chicken won the battle?
Sawblaze is a great wedge bot. Even though Razorback got some hits with its dealy, they were all on Sawblaze's armor- the hits did nothing.
Booooo!!
Sure, SawBlaze lost it's weapon, but even so, it had control like 90% of the match!
NO 99 9/9% of the time
My best guess is that sawblaze didn't use it's weapon more than once, and considering that's how you get points then razorback (only technically) landed the most hits every time sawblaze pushed in. Its not based on driving or damage from the arena, but still razorback was not the most impressive one in this fight. Regardless rules are rules
they are both bad and should feel bad
People just think SawBlaze won because it's a fan favorite.
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4:25 second razorback dude nodding his head like, "yeah, glad I bribed 2 of the judges!"
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Come to think of it, Razorback's only "damage" was to Sawblaze's appearance to the judges, because after the saw stopped working, all of Sawblaze's control, its complete ownership of the match, and Razorback's inability to seriously damage Sawblaze's body were negated.
Flawless logic, people.
So cringy at the the start when you see the teams trying to look all hard and badass XD
Nah jk they clearly get laid every day every minute, no scam.
God its so eerily quiet and the sounds of them hitting each other makes it all the more unsettling
The freaking Dust Pan...I mean Saw Blaze was in control from start to finish. Judges blew it.
EXPECTATION: hellish deathmatch
REALITY: 2 toy car pushing around peacefully
This is a tough one, because SawBlaze's weapon might have broken pretty early on while Razorback had practically no damage. I wonder if they ended up giving it to Razorback because SawBlaze didn't really use their active weapon, making it technically illegal in the rules maybe? I think I remember hearing something about needing an active weapon.
Regardless of who they picked, SawBlaze (or Razorback) deserved that wildcard for sure.
I like the raw fight audio MUCH better.
360p... guess I'll come back later.
Glad to see these coming online.
- Sawblaze didn’t do any damage
- Razorback didn’t do any damage
- But Sawblaze controlled the entire fight!!!
Two options: 1. Drop the stupid active weapon rule. 2. Add a pit. You MUST reward better drivers.
Sawblaze was served zero justice this season! Not only did the judges not give Sawblaze the win despite excellent one-sided control, but they didn't even get a wildcard while weaker bots like Mega Tento and Ghost Raptor did!
Fights like that are very rare, both drivers had good control over their bots. usually you always see them randomly spin around and bash buttons lol
How in the WORLD was Razorback the winner? Even with their weapon not working, saw blaze was *easily* the more aggressive one
Not the most outrageous decision honestly. Razorback was totally undamaged while SawBlaze lost their primary weapon. SawBlaze shoved Razorback around the box the whole match, but it didn't really do any damage. Kind of tricky to determine how that should be judged.
It's like they're the only people home and they're fighting over the legos
I feel like all of this type of robot similar to Minotaur are trying to imitate his destructive design but they can't, poor Razorback
I do not understand how this victory was defined
Battlebots Season 2 judging criteria defines aggression as "use of the _primary_ active weapon" and weights the category. You can win on damage and this skewed definition of aggression alone even if your opponent wins on strategy and control.
Sawblaze destroyed his own saw attacking at the beginning. Still maintained control over razorback the entire match. Then loses. RIP Sawblaze
Did he just introduce Saw Blade with a meme?
Best driving I`ve seen by SawBlaze !! The outcome was surely a mistake ???
Weapon damage matters the most in battlebots. Sawblaze did basically zero damage.
Would've loved to see the modern Sawblaze take on Razorback.
Sawblaze revenge tour?
The green robot should have been named as "Scorpion". Much more relative than sawblaze
Take a moment to appreciate the free face-fireworks at 1:55 at 0.25 speed.
2018 SawBlaze: Am I a joke to you?
its robot fightin time
Can't believe Sawblaze didn't win. They broke their main weapon because they actually managed to use it for once. If you can manhandle your opponent while they're only chipping at your front plate then you're clearly winning.
RIP BRIAN VELASCO THANKS FOR THE MUSIC.
ay maling razorback pala to
So awesome😮 do some more of it
Those of you complaining that the fight is boring should understand that it didn't air on TV BECAUSE it was boring.
and also, Sawblaze didn't win because they used their robot in a boring way. I'm ok with the scoring system if it means that we see less wedgebots. Wedgebots aren't good TV or interesting fights.
Nice in-game Commentators! KEep it UP!