The Minimalists Are Quitting Social Media for the Rest of 2024
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- The Minimalists speak with @CalNewportMedia about whether they should quit social media even though they’ve amassed 4 million followers and hundreds of millions of views. This is a highlight from episode 435. Watch the entire Private Podcast episode: / theminimalists
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How do you think The Minimalists will benefit (or suffer) from pausing social media for the rest of the year?
I think you would be fine . You’d live lol ….. it’s all in your head that you think you can’t live without social media . Try it . I quit most social media platforms seven years ago and I’m so glad I did. I just have CZcams now for work and some entertainment. 😅but limit my consumption.
Benefit (personally), suffer (professionally)
You’ll be surprised how much you don’t need it
Not well. I mean you get a nice long break and no pay from CZcams. Maybe you need to change your job to prevent burnout. Right now you all are number one, but no one is trusting CZcams as much because they don't know if AI is taking over or people are the real deal.
Stepping back from social media can offer a valuable opportunity to recharge, reconnect with the present moment, and focus on personal well-being. It allows time to reflect, cultivate deeper relationships offline, and regain a sense of balance in life. I believe these reasons are the core values of The Minimalists and minimalism. You're right your website, audio podcasts, books, and plus your Netflix documentaries are enough. I will be joining you guys on your pause from social media. Excited to share my results with you guys in San Diego on your free tour this summer!!! 🤙🏾
For the love of everything minimal, please dont quit youtube.
CZcams is the only social media I use besides email if u want to count that.
I agree this is the one thing I look forward to on here!!
Same
While we are pausing social media for the rest of the year, The Minimalists Podcast will still be available on CZcams, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, with Maximal episodes available on Patreon.
Relief
I fully quit social media half a year ago and I’ve never been happier, I even started carrying a field note book to write down stuff. Mainly my anxiety went down by maybe 90% and in general I am more able to focus, read a ton, enjoy more hobbies, work out without having to scream to the world that I worked out. I just do it now for myself and no one else and I gotta say, it is very nice. Makes me remember the 90s.
As individuals we can quit if needed, but The Minimalists are a huge VITAL organization of wonderful people making the World better!
You quit social media but you are here on you tube? Or do you just mean FB /Insta?
I do not consider youtube a social media but I do come here every now and then! i like to listen to playlist here and podcast like the minimalists or yoga classes:) It is also a place where I find a lot of resources to learn japanese. The way I have been using Yotube is by only using it on a desktop and I do have a youtube limit app as well to not get sucked in. Finally I have been trying to teach my algorithm to recommend me more stuff I want like music, science fiction book critics and workouts, I do this by asking it by hand to not recommend me certain videos )on the 3 dots that appear on the lower side of the thumbnails) and it was been super helpful in the terms of not giving me inflamatory content or radicalazing content. It is almost like hand curated but it took me a while to achive this :S @@st8893
@st8893 I clicked their link in an email asking for our thoughts. Could this person have done the same thing?
Thank you! That’s a great answer. I enjoy You Tube as well for certain things. I hesitated to say “I’ll give up social media” cause I do enjoy learning. My personal rule is I can watch You Tube if I am on the eliptical or treadmill 😂 I watch a lot of minimalism, decluttering type content and it always inspires me.
My vote is to accommodate diverse formats: keep YT for individuals who processes information visually, and the podcast for those who are more auditory.
Hmm, the problem is there is a lot of toxicity in the social media space. It's best to be very picky about the influence one allows in one's mind.
I gave up Facebook, instagram about 5 years ago. If I need to be in contact with someone then I can call or text them. I was an adult before social media so it does not affect me, I do not miss them or need them. When my streaming yearly contract ends I will not be renewing. I go to the library, where you can borrow books or you can stay there and read the book or magazines there, you can borrow videos, use their computers and internet.
I love the library, too! I do watch CZcams and am selective about what I consume. Intrigued to let social go for an extended time. Have done so in the past for a month or so. Fun to do it for longer and see what arises and the space/freedom that come from it. More attention/ intention on life in front of my face.
Great. I am struggling to quit as I started social media at 14. But I am determined. I get a lot more anxious from the work I am not doing due to being unproductive and being on social media. It is indeed fake connection.
I deleted all my social media back in June. At first, I felt suicidal, overwhelmed, panic, fear, anxiety, bored, tired and sleeping more, even unbothered more. Then I started to feel relief, glad, pride, happiness. Now, I just see 99.9% of social media as pointless, competitive, false and yes, even boring.
Then I discovered Reddit and I realised that tbh, CZcams was also social media. As was Mumsnet or dating websites and discord if you use it to scroll rather than asking questions.
Please don't quit you tube love you guys😊
I absolutely LOVE this. As a business owner, I’ve struggled with this for years because I’ve wanted to quit social media for my own happiness, but am afraid I won’t stay relevant if I don’t consistently post everyday, but it feels like my posts don’t really bring people in, it’s overwhelmingly just Google searches for coffee shops in the area or word of mouth.
Anyways, I have justified it for long enough but I think this is the push I need to just delete it, I’ve literally come to hate it and be upset with myself because I get so sucked into reels and shorts for like thirty+ minutes at a time. I feel like I’m wasting my life away. Thank you for your content! I hope whatever platform you choose to migrate to will be free for people to use just like social media is ✨ I think Reddit is good for that, like discussions and things
Yep. You've come to the right conclusion. I already know the good coffee places in my neighborhood. If I'm traveling, I'll google it. I don't care about a cafe's social media. I just don't.
Go for it. If people shop for you locally they won't follow your social media sites. Honestly, my hair dresser spends hours on hers and I've never ever looked at it.
This was a great episode! I've been reducing my use of social media, taking it off my phone, opting out of groups and following people, and now only viewing online for a few minutes a day to see what my adult children are doing. I'll continue to minimize my need.
This is awesome. I quit social media at the beginning of the year. After a month, I realized I did not miss it at all. I even cleaned out my YT subscriptions to only those that benefited forward progress to my well being. Keep up the great and intentional work that you guys do 👍🏼
"Reach fewer more deeply" so good!
Bravo! I've always admired your commitment to the various experiments you've conducted over the years: no wifi at home, no phone, no email, MINIMALISM!!, etc. It's hugely inspiring, and a rare quality today. Especially considering the forces conspiring to pull us away from our intentions.
If you're exhausted, you know your audience is as well. Thanks for always keeping it real.
Great point 🙌
I gave up social media 4,5 year ago. I have been only on CZcams, which was also a lot from time to time but lately I spend around 15-30min a day on it. I also have my phone turned off during the day... I am reconnecting with life. I am so glad you are embarking on this great journey as well. Have a great time! 🎉😊
I finally deleted tiktok and only have is Instagram but on my phone web browser, deleted the app and I have it block on my laptop chrome..it is exhausting. I'm only on CZcams
Please don't quit CZcams. You truly changed my life years ago, my view on things, my way of thinking, my spending habit. Your first movie was amazing.
Always do what makes you happy and quit what doesn't... Good choice guys, I did the same about 2 years ago, never looked back and never missed it at all..... 😊❤
The bit about everyone racing to comment with their own click-thirsty things on viral social media posts reminds me of being in college when we had to write x number of forum posts a week in class. Everyone was so stressed about making sure we made the grade that the engagement we had with one another was minimal and usually not very deep even if we were graded on replies to others - we were all just trying to check off a box. It took me three or four years after getting my final degree to find learning fun again, and I've concluded that performing for metrics is not healthy, be it for social approval or a grade.
I enjoy taking a break and watching the Minimalists on CZcams.
You'll grow. We'll miss you. I'd rather connect with you in one place (CZcams) and see way less post/videos/content but also see you guys set the standard for prioritizing and adding immense value in one social location less often!
As long as you're still on CZcams - the only place where we follow you - I think this is an inspired decision. I'm thinking about it myself. Social media - in general - has become toxic. The disconnect between what people say and what's really going on in their lives... it's not okay. It makes others feel "less than" if their lives don't measure up to the happy-happy posts & pix they're seeing on social media. Bravo for making this move!
You folks teach me so many things! And Josh teaches me some new words. I love learning new words. I even shared one with my aunt today - pejoratively!
I'm a head of you. Got rid of facebook (6 months ago), was the last one I dropped. Have not missed any of them. Now am able to form my own opinions without someone trying to influence me otherwise. Good luck on your challenge.
It's being able to form your own opinions with everyone else trying to influence you that makes your opinions and beliefs stronger (in my opinion)
Either way, good job 😊
You guys are the real deal. I appreciate you.
I have to appreciate your authentic post regarding the exit from social media. I found you on CZcams following your documentaries.
I quit all social media in 2019 and it spells FREEDOM.
If you leave CZcams then I guess I listen on my Google Nest to podcasts.
There are seasons for everything and everyone. Teachers come and teachers leave. Should this be the case and season, then I wish you well. Youve been quite the inspiration and blessing for me. ❤
I found The Minimalists thru your Netflix documentaries. Thoroughly enjoy your audio podcasts thru Patreon but do not feel a great need to watch thru CZcams. Quality podcasts, documentaries, and well-written blogs appeal
to me more (as maybe a more senior follower) than quick, algorithm-driven social media alternatives such as TikTok. After listening to Cal’s recommendations, I’ve taken the baby step of moving FB from my Home Screen and already feel better!
It’s fascinating that I had the belief that my business will fail without social media. It was one of those beliefs that are not obvious but it’s the reason why I fear letting go of social media - it’s ridiculous - a platform can’t possibly decide if I’m successful or not - yet another lie we believe. Thank you for blazing the trail to new ways / doing things differently. I stopped IG, FB and Twitter. I’ll keep working on LinkedIn because the energy is different and more professional and I enjoy it but I’m stopping tracking my engagement and creating what I love. Thank you!
You know your audience...we want Minimalism in all areas of life, and that includes social media and how we spend our time. I just cut off IG last week because I realized it was taking too much of my time and it didn't help me achieve the goals I wanted for the year. I'm all for your trial!
I quit social media earlier this year but I kept CZcams so that I could still watch and listen to people like you. I am sad you are leaving CZcams.
I have been waiting for this to happen! So excited to see where this decision takes The Minimalists! It has been 2.5 years without social media for me as an individual and business. Best decision for both roles!
Wow nice one-What kind of business and how does it work without socials?
@@ErinbaMy guess is either email marketing, blogging, paid advertising, or offline marketing. Only things you can really do if you're not doing social media or video. And seeing as they didn't bother to answer this is my two sense.
Makeup Artist! I don’t check my CZcams notifications often.
Makeup Artist! I use email marketing, physical promotional flyers for events and treat my word of mouth referrals from current clients with thoughtful gifts.
Thank you for posting this video and for speaking your mind with honesty. I had been creating CZcams videos based on minimalism as well and found that with each video I posted that I felt compromised. I was feeling quite similar to what you have said here, that I was eventually second-guessing my own ethics in trying to get my videos seen. Although my intent was to share some ideas and possibly help someone in their life, I was beginning to think more about the views and likes. In my heart and mind, I was starting to fool myself and those I was hoping to help. Thank you again. This has given me much to think about. Best wishes!
Oh I so hope you still post of CZcams, I listen weekly and it is so helpful. We love you all so much since the first movie was out
Did it in 2018, never looked back. Didn't even struggle with the decision either when I was spending so much time on them. I just was done the moment I was able to get enough perspective to see myself scrolling like a zombie, refreshing and doing it again 😣
Plus, let's admit it, it's not very minimalistic, it uses data (both telecom resources and data centers) for little benefits, causes anxiety, and encourages, by design, over consumption and the capitalistic model's excesses.
So good on you guys, I'm sure you will benefit greatly from it!!
This is great! As a creator, I encourage this. It gets really rough especially with the analytics aspect. I’ve taken breaks off and on, some were as long as 5-6 months several months and each time I found myself again. I’ve now started building new habits to make sure I’m focused on the joy of creating and allowing those who are meant to see my content find it.
For example, this is my other CZcams channel because I don’t want to constantly see my notifications or lack there of, then take it personal, and feel discouraged to created. Sometimes I just want to chill and watch a video. It helps me create healthy boundaries.
CZcams is my favorite video based platform as a creator and consumer and for me, it is 100% social media. The likes and views count, an algorithm recommending content and pushing out content. As consumer, you’re unaware of the lengths creators go just to get you to click on their videos. from stand out thumbnails to catchy titles to using key words that the algorithm notices you engage with the most. It’s all psychological. Yeah it may not be like fb or IG. But it’s definitely social media.
So if you feel called to take a break, this is your sign to do it. Your mind, body, and spirit will thank you.
Sending much love to all of you 💌
I left Facebook over a year ago for most part and don't regret it. I have been in Facebook maybe less than 20 times scanning over some of the emails I received. I feel freer. I'll miss you. I watch or read what you send when I'm at the elliptical at gym. Blessings for your journey, Cristina 🦋
I’m quitting social media too.. I want to free up my time and mind … I found you guys through your podcast so this is great 👍🏽
Love this! I’m heading to Patreon now to support you guys. I admit to lacking in integrity by continuing to benefit from your podcast without giving back. If we don’t want to be overwhelmed by social media and marketing, it is up to us to financially support those truly adding value.
FYI: CZcams is NOT a social media platform. Everyone CHILL.
I’d like to agree, as CZcams is the only platform I use. I have Premium (no ads), History turned off (no recommendations), Shorts turned off, and Auto Play turned off.
But in some ways I find CZcams to be perhaps more dangerous, because I’m able to justify spending time here for the sake of learning, or growth, even though I often come here to numb out, to cure boredom, or simply come without intentionality. CZcams Shorts are no different than TikTok or IG Reels. It’s all an algorithm, and the platform is designed to steal our attention. I have tried to be as intentional as possible with CZcams, and yet still find myself sucked in.
@@FallenTimber- I have mine set up the exact same way, except I never knew we could turn the shorts off. I hate those.
Per Definition it is ☝🏽
CZcams is considered a social media platform because you can share content with “followers” (subscribers) and foster communities through interaction and engagement
@@reyerskleve I can do this with a physical noticeboard at my office. My staff noticeboard is not social media.
@@TroyUlyssesdoesn’t change the fact 💁🏻♂️
Absolutely intrigued by this!!!! Later to the game with social but more attached with time spent on it. Been considering diving off for an extended break. Need one for work but not the others. Will continue to listen to podcast like I have been weekly on Spotify. Not been on social much anyway lately so not consuming your short form content. I prefer longer form. Excited for you!!!!
Amazing and all the power to you!
I started doing this in September and, in line with he latest podcast, have started re-introducing specific aspects of some platforms back into my life as (if) necessary.
I haven't looked back so far.
It's important to regularly curate the quality and quantity of the information we receive. It's a constant balancing act. I've embraced podcasts now and quit the rest. CZcams is my jam for music perfomance study, it's a positive thing that enhances my life. A few years ago I removed SM apps on my phone and I don't miss them at all. I love listening to the Minimalists via the Patreon app ... and I love you!
This was so timely for me. I decided to take a break from Facebook (the only social media I use) a few days ago. I had previously given up Facebook for about six months earlier in 2023, and kind of started to wonder why I went back. I am on board with this for me personally, and I wish you all the best of luck with your social media fast. I listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and will continue to do so!
I quit Instagram & Facebook a year & a half ago, it’s been the best thing for me! I don’t miss the apps at all. I only call & text on my phone, I have the YT app & Pinterest & that is it. I even quit twitter & snapchat even longer ago, probably about 2 & a half years ago. I highly recommend it 😀 I just live my life, don’t compare myself to anyone & quite frankly I don’t care what anyone is upto! 😂 it’s Freedom!!
Agree , Fran
I couldn't agree more with you! I am exhausted!
I am soooo interested to see how this impacts your business. I think you will love the break from social media. I permanently deleted my FB account this month. Love what it does for my head space!!!! Keep up the awesomeness!!!!
For me the film, books and podcast have been pivotal in stopping clinging to stuff, people and feelings. I am learning from the podcasts how to continue with this process and revisit areas of my life through a different lens. I rarely look at CZcams ( this visit prompted by the email) don’t have insta, TikTok nor twitter and I have friction to disrupt Facebook engagement. I am fully behind you quitting social media forever especially if it fuels your creativity - the audio podcast/Patreon and any future books will remain priority in shaping and reimagining my life unless a time comes when I am no longer getting value from them.
Well, I just downloaded Apple Podcasts, so I won’t miss a thing. 🎉🎉
Thank you for all you do, we appreciate and respect you all. God bless
I listen to you on Spotify as I walk or do household chores. I won't miss the social media absence. Your work gives great value to my life!
Bravo, Bravo…I will leave it at that, other than to say I woke up depressed, overwhelmed,
and empty this morning. This you-tube may have saved my life. XOX…Love you guys and thanks 💫
Wow. I can't wait to hear what you have to say about your experiences in this regard in 2025! I myself am already away from all social media except CZcams, where I also regularly listen to your posts - but I wouldn't need a video for that either. A still image is enough to listen to 😀
I think we would all benefit from a socia media break. If the minimalists quit social media for the rest of 2024, I'm on board! Lets get itttt
The tug Josh talks about @9:45 stopped at a red light, I’m just gonna check really quick. And then the sudden realization that I fawkin do that too. Man, I’m so fawked. I think this was the clip I needed. 🙏
Thank you! It's always been a moral conflict. Lickily i have stood my ground
I love you guys. You make me be mindful and grounded.
Silence would definitely e deafening this year if you don't release an wpisode
Thank You.
You've just stated the end of influencer and toxic sm burnout perfectly.
"I love incentive systems that focus on quality" yes!!! We need more of that in the world in every sense and across every industry/community
I love your podcast and I am a Patreon supporter. The decision to quit social didn’t really affect me as I only listen to the podcast. You are all amazing!
Interesting to learn from you about algorithms.
It would be so sad to not see you as often, but you could also gather some awesome data from it! You would come “back” so refined and refreshed!
Much respect to you for doing this! Well, I already had lots of respect, but now even more so if you really go through with it. I am totally fine with listening to your podcast. And I already don’t have most social media.
Awesome team. Do what's best for you. I've recently taken a step back from the social media sites that haven't been serving me well and have found a lot of peace in that. I know where they are if I need them. And hopefully your followers will find you via your podcasts or patreon if they need you :) (I know I will!)
I did this a cpl years ago.
Deleted Fb. Didn’t have any other platform.
It was great.
I tried Twitter last year, just for conversations and watching trends that affect my work (Allied/Mental Health) and loved the quiet.
I am stunned at your decision, because of it's impact on me personally. I can't afford to become a member or patreon of the various CZcams channels I watch, nor can I afford CZcams's no-ad premium fees. I am also fed up with YT's way of doing business, and how greedy many YTers have become by overstocking their videos with ads. I have your books, but I can't absorb their content while gardening or cleaning the house. Looks like I am about to make a major change in my lifestyle, too. One change will be to become familiar with my library's offerings.
LOL... good start ... listen to music in a cafe where there are human beings... that's always fun
Giving up regularly going to cafes for coffee was the first thing I eliminated from my unnecessary expenses, about 14 years ago, as I began my ever tightening budget in an attempt to live within my means as my uncontrollable expenses continued to rise. It still is one of my favorite pastimes, though. You got that right.@@lalobean1409
This episode, like so many others, is awesome! 2024 is really the first time I am finding social media to be incredibly draining. I still like CZcams but Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn really wear me out sometimes.
Agree, this was an excellent episode. Really makes one think about wasted time and unnecessary efforts.
Good idea on pausing til the end of the year. Great idea to focus on what you enjoy.
This has been one of the more enjoyable episodes in a while. Go for it guys. Take the break and enjoy it!
I recently quit Facebook, Instagram, & TikTok myself, so I understand! But I hope you stay on CZcams 😂♥️
Please keep the you tube shorts. They are delightful nuggets that brought me here.
I love the full length episode too, I am going to increase my Patreon level.
Please, do not leave and do not stop making podcast😢😢😢
Love this challanger, Bravissimos 👏👏👏
TK, I love you! Your contribution to the show is incredible. Really appreciate your take on things and look forward to listening to each new episode. Thank you all for what you do. God bless!
All I can say is: enjoy! Quitting socials was the best decision I ever made:)
Oh, woah!!! I had absolutely ZERO plan of deleting Instagram off my phone, yet, 2 days ago i had enough and i deleted it! (I even put my phone in grayscale!) Its Day 2 and i have been the most productive in what seems years. I am an artist, yet, I haven't created anything in years - i haven't felt inspired. And already, im feeling as though I'm getting my flow back. It may be too early to say, however, I already don't want to go back to social media! Liberating.
Thanks for inspiring me for quitting Instagram, Facebook and TikTok.. I spend so much time doing nothing important on these and last few days I felt like I was already “slipping away” from these platforms and today thanks to you I finally did it fully. Thank you ❤
Apart from CZcams, I quit all social media several years ago. I am so glad I did.
If you guys are quitting social media, I'd love for you to allocate that time to a longer newsletter, more consistent! I love reading and learning. Newsletters are great for that, plus I give you permission to send me emails, versus you just popping up on my feed randomly.
I currently use CZcams for podcasts etc and Facebook messenger for my family/friends (under 100 people). Its been a good chamge. No ads. No recommended videos. Im still able to share a video story ir photo now and then that doesnt always load well via text message
I’ve quit social media for 2024 too! So great to see others who are doing this, good for accountability
I've deleted Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. My brain feels so much clearer and I have more time. My friends and I actually CALL one another now.
I still have CZcams Premium for the music, sleep noise and some favorite channels that I enjoy.
Yes🎉 I’m an OG podcast listener. It’s such a rich medium. I love walking and listing to you. The visual socials encourage a sedentary life style because it’s all about watching. So it’s bad for the the brain and body.
i don't listen to podcasts because there are so many ads. I never actually get interested.
Would miss you guys so much but everyone needs a break to rest and refresh. We have an amazing back catalogue of your wise words for us until you are back 🌟
Can you not??????? I look forward to this during my many hours of nursing my baby everyday 😂😭 I will listen to the podcast but I really enjoy engaging watching you talk more 😔
So agree with the influencer age coming to an end. I do still find value in the exchange of information (i.e. How to raise chickens or Working with polimer clay)
Just about ready to turn in and sell antique glassware from my grandma and mom. Downsizing to a nomad life in a pickup and campershell. Im 64, and cannot and will not pay the rents now.Can you interview a top dealer about the market, getting decent price how to approach, etc?
I've made progress in not reaching for my phone to fill every little void of space.
Spending more time creating; being outdoors; having more face-to-face interaction. ...living real life; even if it means sitting on my porch with a glass of lemonade, in the complete stillness of quietude.
I have been thinking about this for some time now. To do well, content creators must compromise something within themselves (eg. doing a thumbnail to get attention but it's just not you)to grow their channel. Bravo for this episode.
One of my favorite shows ever
I really enjoy audio only too.
I never had any followers, but still quit social media years ago, and experienced no downside. I think it's worth a shot.
I already did except YT. It feels soooooo good and liberating.
This is really interesting! We are about to launch a software, we love. And I just want to find the ppl that will also love it. I think that it will be enough (in terms of resources to cover living expenses and continuing development) and give more, spiritually.
My own social media I can stop, but I will need to use social media to find some interesting hubs online. But I want to tap into less general and more authentic spaces.
I quit’Twitter’ prior to inception of X, it was getting so toxic. I get on Facebook to connect quickly with family and friends, and don’t spend such time. As for You Tube, I try to keep it to my interests and, after some experience, usually can tell what is just sensational crap.
"How can I reach more people more deeply."---TK
That says it all!
The podcast with Cal made a very compelling argument. I’ll listen to your regardless. They are much more worthy in depth chunks of content. More worthwhile engaging with than the snippets. I’m more likely to recommend the podcast by word of mouth than I am to reshare a short clip. It will be an interesting experiment anyway. Let us know if Prof Shaun & Danny get to use their time more usefully. Xx 👍
I listen to your podcasts with Patreon, which I came across through your film and also the free version of the podcast on Spotify. I think social media such as CZcams / instagram are useful ways to reach a lot of potential followers. Could you do less and more intentional releases, to still reach mass audiences, but reduce the amount of short bursts videos that feed people’s scrolling habits. I’m no expert on social media, but I find quality deeper dives more rewarding and potentially truer to your values?
The background laugh killed me 😂😂
Love it I’ve quite most social media and CZcams seems to be my main one. Actually I quit watching the news long time ago and rarely watch TV these days 👌🏻 I have JOMO not FOMO
I’ll miss you here but totally support your decisions. I won’t be following you but I already find myself unsubscribing to more and more. I pulled the plug on my television in January 2020…before Covid so I missed that media drama…but I enjoy learning and being supported by many on CZcams. I pay for premium so it and Audible are my guilty pleasures…maybe I’ll see you there! 🥂 Cheers! 🎉🎉
I say go for it I’ve been thinking about it too. But if you do how do continue to follow you and get these great discussions?