What on earth happened in the Commons last night? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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In general I enjoy this show. But James has become exceptionally pro Labour and pro Starmer in recent weeks and months. Tories are pathetic but one has to be critical of Labour as well when they misstep. But James continues to fight Labour’s corner even when they are blatantly wrong on a policy point.
Well O'Brien is a Red Tory and establishment Hates Corbyn and proper Labour He's an embarrassment and everyone knows it.
How were they wrong?
@@brianbell3836
The labour party members were not allowed to vote with their conciouses which would have allowed them to vote that they agreed that Israel are doing collective punishment. To avoid that, instead of allowing them to have a free vote, Starmer, the friend of Israel, chose to invoke the victim card he has recently adopted. James is talking around the edges of the problem because he does not want to invoke any inclination that Starmer is under pressure from his friends - regardless of what the country wants.
@@stopitnow7762 Isn't use of the whip a sign of a strong leader? Don't you want a strong leader?
@@brianbell3836
I don't consider following America and the president of Israels lead as being strong. A strong leader can not say starving children is anyones right - especially a guy who called that same anyone an apartheid state in 2015
You’re wrong James. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. What Labour done was unacceptable and what the speaker done also. Him resigning will give hopefully a fairer balance once Labour comes to power. Ultimately the Labour leader is to blame for this one. And the only reason they prorogued parliament was because the majority of mps were going against the will of their constituents. You can’t pick and choose when democracy is allowed
Wrong James. It does not matter whose name is on it. Correct. But Parliment procedure. Labour party should not have had a motion. It was the SNP day. To win or lose their motion.
That was taken away from them.
Your analogy The SNP were sent off for now reason and not allowed to play.
If this type of thing happens on other issues you would be furious
WRONG! Labour proposed their amendment before the Tories and at this point the SNP had no issue. The breaking of convention was in allowing the Labour amendment to be voted on as well as and before the Tory amendment so what's the issue here?
Absolutely
As a huge James fan, I was so disappointed in his take today. In his desperation to see the Tories rightly booted out, he supports Stamer in whatever he does and is ready with a nonsensical defence, even if Starmer is clearly in the wrong. Sickening, as Labour supporter, I am left politically homeless and my idols destroy my confidence day in and day out supporting a flawed and dangerous man in the clealry authoritarian Starmer.
I have lost a lot of respect for James because of his support for Starmer
The Left/ Islamic alliance was always going to emplode
@@alistairrae9807 It's very sad. On the part where he basically says "what did Labour do wrong" I was unbelievably shocked. If Boris Johnson had been in opposition and the speakers office shortly before that intervention from the speaker JAMES WOULD HAVE LOST HIS MIND AND RIGHTLY SO. We all know it.
Lots of commentators have been shown to have feet of clay today. James O’Brien here, Phil over at A Differen Bias. They’ve come across cheap and partisan.
Yep totally Agree and shows the danger of him as PM with a super majority !
Disgusting !
James just as impartial as the Speaker!!
Absolute chaos, and it did nothing to help those suffering in Gaza. It just makes the UK look foolish (again) on the world stage.
Yes and evidently it was first issue in almost every news station in the world! UKs standing in the world is being severely undermined.
Let's not pretend that the SNP proposed this motion with that wording for any noble reason, it was purely to trap Labour.
@@bazzacuda_ BS - SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
James you pretty much side stepped the fact that Starmer has had many opportunities to put forward a motion for a ceasefire. You also side stepped the fact that Starmer intervened because many of his front bench and back benches were itching the SNP motion and therefore many would have had to lose. Bad craic Mr O’Brien
Is it any wonder we are all sick to death of politicians,what happened yesterday was for many people the last straw.
No no. Don’t lump them all together. What did the SNP do wrong. They put forward a motion totally inkeeping with what they’ve been calling for for months, while Labour have dithered and flipflopped to a disgusting degree.
@@Knappa22'Dithered'? 'Flipflopped'? You mean they won.
@@brianbell3836 what did they win? A meaningless mealy-mouthed non-statement. No point winning that.
Anarchy in the UK! 😊
I have been a staunch supporter of Kier Starmer. Im Scottish. I liked everything about him. After 14 years of the destruction and demise of many many people (especially in England) because of Tory policies, i was glad to hopefully see an end to it. Tonight for the first time in my adult life, ive thought id like to go independent. This was a bad move - a bad mistake. Starmer was supposed to be the antidote to the Torries. Now he looks a little nore like them.
As a Scot, you must realise your voice is insignificant in Westminster. You may want to remain in the U.K. but you must accept you’ll only get what England gives you, whether that’s Boris or Brexit.
Yes you're right. I've always been happy to be in the union. I've never really fully got on board with what the SNP were offering, but I think that's because the time I really looked, Alex Salmond was leading them and I never really trusted him (that proved to be right...😬....). I think many many thousands of people have died (more in England than in Scotland) because of Tory policies and I'm glad that English voters seem to be realising this and are going to reject it. But I do know that if another Tory government is voted in within my lifetime, I'll make it my life's mission to try and persuade everyone I come into contact with to push for independence x
@@belon6203 The salient thing to remember is that the party which gains independence often disappears post achieving it. Sinn Fein were the party most associated with Irish independence hasn’t been in power for a century at this stage. And if they do gain power, it’s hard to say that today’s Sinn Fein is really the same party at all.
In a post independence Scotland, it’s most likely the SNP would wither away or split in different parties almost immediately. It would most likely become a centrist party, a left wing party and possibly a moderately conservative party.
As it is, independence is a big tent with a common goal. When it’s achieved, people will express their natural leanings more freely.
Let's not pretend that the SNP proposed this motion with that wording for any noble reason, it was purely to trap Labour
@@bazzacuda_ Absolute nonsense. Killing 30,000 for the actions of a few hundred is the very definition of “collective punishment”. It’s a complete straw man argument to claim Starmer couldn’t support it. Netanyahu isnt going to nuke London because someone called the collective punishment he is dolling out “collective punishment”.
The parliament in Westminster calling for a ceasefire is just a point of principle and has no material influence on the ongoing tragedy. There is no legal reason or moral reason that they couldn’t support the SNP motion.
Not one Gazan child’s life would be saved by Westminster calling for a ceasefire and the suggestion that it’s fine to dismantle the conventions of parliament because it was very important to vote through a motion which achieves nothing in reality is making excuses for a gross overreach.
As soon as the speaker announced he would allow the Labour party amendment Sir Keir Starmer stood up left and thanked the speaker. What does that tell you?
@@RobbyDock Or he was appreciating that the Speaker did as he was told?
@@RobbyDockThe SNP didn't get what they wanted. They wanted a vote on their proposal which Slimy Starmer put a stop to as it criticised Israel.
The speaker chose labours proposal over the SNP. So the SNP proposal would not be voted upon! Those silencing them. That’s the point, it was their day to put the proposal forward, one of only three opportunities, not labours day! Labour objected to the term collective punishment, which of course this is. Don’t downplay this James, the SNP were silenced.
Unequivocal support for labour, it shows how unprincipled he is
@@UnknownUser-by4lesad to see that logic, reason, truth & the rules are a moveable feast for Mista O'Brien. There is no nuance to this circumstance, it is not hearsay, it happened live & direct to the public... From the guy who's written books on the harms of culture war propaganda. A sad & intellectually facile position.
He's a keir fan
@@UnknownUser-by4le no I don’t think so at all. I think I made a mistake. He’s known for being fair and non-partisan.
Nothing new there then 🏴
The problem was the Speaker put his finger on the scale in favour of Labour. When he meant to neutral arbiter
You mean he should have favoured someone else?
@brianbell3836 he should have continued with the debate and votes on amendments as it was scheduled, which is his job
Starmer used the claim of MP safety to remove the line "collective punishment" because he thinks denying the elderly, women and children food and water is not collective punishment.
The term "collective punishment" breaches article 33 of the Geneva convention. The Labour amendment included all of the rest of the SNPs motion and more.
@@carlossus4973 if Lab were desperate for a vote, why did they wait until the SNP to propose one, why didn’t they do it sooner?
The safety of MP's isn't 'a line' - large swathes of the pro Palestine mob have threatened and intimidated MP's in recent months. That isn't an opinion, it's called counting.
@@lucasmoreno5330Bugger all to do with what I said. But, if all the SNP wanted was the vote for a ceasefire, why are they kicking off when they've got what they wanted?
@@carlossus4973it's the whole rest of the UK kicking off, if you hadn't noticed.
It’s simple.Starmer knew there would be a rebellion within the Labour Party with many of them voting with SNP.posible shadow cabinet resignations.
Is O'Brien cheerleading for Starmer?... looks like it
James has a massive blind spot when it comes to Starmer. Regardless, Speaker Hoyle manipulated parliamentary procedure on behalf of the Leader of the Opposition on one of only three days where the SNP could put forward such a motion. Hoyle intervened on behalf of Starmer - to prevent embarrassment for Labour, again - and in so doing violated several parliamentary norms and procedures
And the snp took were very petulant and walked out…..again. Does anybody actually that Hamas and Israel will listen to anything the UK says, after yesterday is it any wonder?
Sorry but no. If the SNP hadn't been playing silly games trying to embarrass Labour, they could easily have got their motion passed. In a very real sense they didn't want it to pass. Because they were playing games with the lives of Gazans and Israelis to make a petty political point.
If the opinion of our parliament wasn't so irrelevant to what the Israeli government and Hamas will choose to do, I'd be extremely angry at the SNP.
James once again showing he is just a salesman for the Labour party. What a plonker
O'Brien at possibly his most disgusting and obnoxious today. Asking people to call in to help him understand what happened and then berating and insulting every caller who even mildly criticized Keir Starmer.
Never been happier for Mystery Hour.
OBrien 1984 Evil OBrien 2024 2 Minutes of hate for Brexiteers and Antivaxxers.
I bet you'd be fun at parties if anyone ever invited you
Let's not pretend that the SNP proposed this motion with that wording for any noble reason, it was purely to trap Labour
Not a single mention of the intimidation aspect and no mention of the interference of a democratic process either and no mention of the speaker being scared for his colleagues safety in JOB opening monologue .
JOB also worryingly appears to be strangely upbeat in the reporting of this tragic story ?
He did mention it. He also explained why it's almost definately fake news
@oakies It was denied by all including the speaker and his office, plus last night the originator withdrew the comment stating it wasnt correct.
I like James and he is a smart guy but on this issue, the SNP was betrayed when it comes to the nitty gritty.
How. Explain how voting through a ceasefire was a betrayal of the SNP
James like most of us desperately want the Conservatives gone but the reasons we want them gone is because of the lack of morals and lies so the minute you see the opposition doing something underhand you call it out ,that's a natural response if that's what you care about. But James isn't, and all of us who agree with him most of the time will say " where's your eyes and ears you know what happened and 8t stinks" but he's not because he wants labour in so bad. James come on you sound like a tory and turning the facts into a farce.these things matter it really doesn't reflect well on your moral compass hopefully . You honestly sounded like a tory on this
Let's not pretend that the SNP proposed this motion with that wording for any noble reason, it was purely to trap Labour
@@bazzacuda_ That's an ignorant point of view. You basically say because they out maneuvered labou that all procedure should be ignored. They tabled this motion because any other motion would have been seen as selfish and out of touch at this time. You're hate for the snp obviously outweighs your belief in democracy.
@@rhize797thats not hate for the snp, pal. That's blind love for other people.
BS James. The issue is they voted on a watered down motion to save face. I have always voted for Labour but the leaderships handling of this issue is seriously flawed.
A vote for the SNP motion wouldn't have passed, and accusing Israel of war crimes (even though that is correct) would have opened accusations of anti-Semitism that would've hurt the chances of getting rid of the Tories at the next election.
They didn't water it down, they went further. If the SNP originally proposed Labour's ammendment as a motion and Labour proposed the SNP motion as an ammendment, you'd be kicking off about how Labour refused to condemn settler violence or call for a two state solution. You're dishonest
the mob waving flags are anachy
@@TonyMacina utter nonsense.
@@leikfroakies removing the "collective punishment" (of Palestinian civilians) in my opinion is watering the amendment down. Not sure how that makes me "dishonest". You might disagree but is that dishonesty?
We can land a punch. SNP get 3 opportunities to put things forward labour get 17 and haven’t used one for this issue that should be fundamental. More importantly they made the amendment to deny Israel’s collective punishment. That’s why we’re disgusted, because they must be held accountable.
Had Boris Johnson met with the speaker before a motion and the speaker then bent the rules in favour of the Tories, JOB would be screaming from the rooftops, but because of his love affair with Kier Starmer he can do no wrong.
Calling Israel’s actions collective punishment, is not an argument, that’s just counting…
I'll admit to writing this comment before seeing the rest of the video, but it is very not accurate to describe labor's motion as identical to the SNP's. Ot only calls for a ceasefire with Netanyahu's support and consent, and he's been clear he won't stop, so it is a meaningless statement by adding the qualifications that labour's motion did, where there is a far stronger statement made, as well as the importance of including the collective punishment language, in the SNP motion.
Is that not for another day
So he admits to being wrong, so gonnae give it a rest with the baw and am taking it home
The 3 days a year we get
Why haven't more people seen this? SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Bottom line is that what has been shown is that MPs will bow to protestors. Starmer not wanting his members voting in favour of the SNP motion to apease many of their constituents is the crux of the issue. Icing on the cake was the silencing of scottish voices at westmister....labour could have raised a motion and call for a vote next week at the correct time
@@RobbyDockother way around
It was opposition day, James. The SNP get to put their motion to the house, it gets debated and you vote for/against it. It's very simple! Tories don't give a ...., Labour can't decide where they stand.
The SNP get to put their motion to the house and other parties get to propose amendments. Labour were very clear about where they stood. So clear in fact that they proposed an amendment that had cross party support (as the SNP claim to have wanted)
Snp ignored end of
How? They said they wanted a unified ceasefire motion. They got a unified ceasefire motion. Explain the problem
Sickened by O'Brien's take on this. Labour finally shamed by SNP into making a mealy mouthed statement on Gaza. Labour allowed to take credit for it whilst SNP who have been asking for a ceasefire since November were sidelined in a breach of protocol and the SNP motion taken off the agenda.
O'B defended this and treated callers with a Scottish accent very rudely
SNP and Tories could have voted down Labour's amendment and then voted for the SNP motion, but they didn't, because it was all political theatre by SNP due to them losing support to Labour in Scotland. Pathetic politicking from both the SNP and Tories.
It’s sickening as you said. Can you *imagine* what O’Brien would be saying had this been Sunak in the Speaker’s office strong-arming him into changing parliamentary procedure to avoid a sticky vote for the Tories??
It beggars belief. The man as no shame and no dignity left.
A pity as he has been my favourite radio and broadcast journalist for many years now.
@@LieutenantMoustache Pretty much this. I would add in the Tories as well however.
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@@LieutenantMoustache why didn’t Labour just vote on the SNP motion as per the convention of such an opposition day in parliament? Answer it.
Starmer comes across as a narcissist in this.
He is a narcissist. Not even saying that out of hate, he shows the signs of one many times. I agree with him often too, but he can rarely admit when he's wrong.
@@HakunonMatataSorry, but you are just using the lazy unqualified internet definition of narcissism, by which pretty much anybody you disagree with can be labelled thus. Narcissism is a mental disorder which has stringent diagnostic criteria, and it certainly cannot be diagnosed by random people online.
Starmer is a careerist politician like most of them, he clearly operates on the grounds of what he deems to be political expediency on a case by case basis. He shifts his position based on what he believes is best for his political career. That does make him a moral void, but not a narcissist.
@@Auriflamme Too many words. Sorry, but I don't care.
Is there a single politician that isn't a narcissist? I haven't even met a councilor of any political party that didn't feel a sense of their own importance.
@@HakunonMatataDon't worry mate, I rather expected that.
Lindsay Hoyle, son of one of the founders of the Friends of Israel lobby group, introduced Labour’s amendment on one of the three parliamentary days when the SNP could have their motion heard. The difference between the two was, essentially, SNP= Ceasefire Now, Labour= Ceasefire if, when, but…
Without Hoyle’s intervention, Labour MPs would have to vote for Cons version or the unconditional Scottish version. Labour Friends of Israel didn’t pay all that money to Starmer to have his MPs vote for an unconditional ceasefire.
There. Not too hard to see that corruption, is it?
SNP
WRONG! Labour's amendment called for an immediate ceasefire. Literally what the SNP wanted. They even said they support the Labour amendment before the Tories introduced theirs so it's all just self-interested politiking
Might as well scream "i am getting paid for endorsing one party"
*This has been a propaganda broadcast for the Labour party*
@@anonomous8719only if you're a Tory's lap dog
Its utterly pathetic
@@waynegazard5038or just maybe James is wrong on this
He seemed to empathize with the Scottish position. He is far more generous in showing their point of view than other media. @@UnknownUser-by4le
James take yer pills mate - im signing out at10mins in - your aim is off.... i cant listen to it.
What has the labour party got on Lindsay Hoyle it must be really salacious?
i think you're over thinking it. hoyle has apologised and proposed another vote- if the snp want it. I think starmer used his human rights knowledge to force the speakers hand.. we know hoyle mentioned it was about the safety of mps, you can tell thats starmer in his ear saying "some of our mps are worried about their safety if they vote no to the ceasefire, and putting them in danger violates the law" etc etc.
A motion, should be pass the allow the snp to run for government in the UK, would be interesting to see
Your not going to get anywhere near enough votes for a government who wants to remove itself from the rest of the United Kingdom are you 😂
26:16 is there anything the Labour Party could do that would make you criticise them? Serious question!
3 days snp get, James your wrong he was warned by his advisors
Starmer lost Labour a lot of support yesterday …
Scots are stating they live in the 'Occupied 14 Counties', today.
And since this assault began!
Every time Starmer opens his mouth, he lies. Barrister, solicitor and Labour ‘leader’ = professional lier!
starmer became a human rights lawyer so he could abuse human rights laws- for his benefit and for his oppositions loss
What was Boris Johnson then?
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
snp called for a ceasefire while attributing blame to israel, and starmer decided the attributing blame to israel part needed removed (because he has a lot of israeli donors to his campaign) and the speaker who is "friends with israel" agreed.@@user-qf1zg4zz8j
If the referee is blatantly cheating why wouldn’t you be against him and utter it !!!!?
Starmer James your wrong james
Why’s this geezer got a massive picture of Diana next to his head whilst he’s calling MP’s liars 😂
I don't think it about who's name is on it. It is about not calling out Israel on the obvious collective punishment.
also SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Today iceland decide whether to re unite india with pakistan ,and andorra debate giving america back to england ,lets all make decisions on things we have no say in pathetic
Friends of Labour don't just pay politicians to spout their hate and bias towards Israel, they also pay presenters/ journalists. James WE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU.
On the difference between the motions between Labour and SNP for the people who don't know.
Kid Starver added that Israel has to agree to the ceasefire (so they are effectively not compelled and can ignore it) and secondly that Israel are not blaming all of the Palestinians for the action of a few (collective punishment which they are). Slimey O' Brian is trying to cover this up and make it about party politics. The motions were not the same, that's why the SNP were so outraged. Sir Lindsey Hoyle's dad helped create Labour friends of Israel.
James, for ...... sake let the callers utter and finish their sentences. Don't interrupt them inssecntly. I want to learn what other people say. That's why I spent time to listen to your programs. Be patient, IQ.
Sack Hoyle, for a start. Easy. Starmer makes Sunak look like a man of integrity.😢
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Starmer through 1.4M people under the bus in order to save his political career. If the " Collective Punishment " clause had stayed in he would be complicit in that due to his earlier public statements. It's that simple and why he went so far off the rails with his treatment of spineless Hoyle.
Just as telavivkieth has unequivocal support for Israel’s government
James has unequivocal support for Labour
Im actually afraid to make comments now because if you just disagree with a certain war far away you're banned from commenting, why is someones freedom of speech more than mine.
Would have wanted a general election yesterday but right now nit sure who I would vote for. All behaved like spoiled brats.
they all are war criminals and even if u vote to any of them they already sold themselves to money!! democracy is for the rich by the rich and to the rich!!
Always vote for the least worst option, none of these people actually give a toss about you in reality.
@@Weakeyedominant you are so right
James you speak with forked tongue.
Starmer emotionally blackmailed the speaker to get his way after the SNP had to force his hand. SNP yet again being treated as lesser than the other parties, and people wonder why they want to leave the union.
Starmer can do no wrong, Jeremy can never be right. This is the same guy that defended Starmer when he endorsed war crimes on Nick's show. He now belongs in idiot's corner
The SNP are aloud 3days to discuss what the SNP deem important to discuss .
also SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
'SNP saying, "We wanted this to have our name on it, not the Labour Party's name on it. We're perfectly happy with what it is, we like what it is, we want what it is..."'
Let me stop you right there, James, because quite simply, you're WRONG. The SNP weren't happy with Labour's ammendment. If that's what they wanted, that's what their motion would've been and Labour wouldn't have felt the need for an ammendment.
It's literally the Labour Party saying "WE want our name on this."
You're disgustingly blinkered about this.
WRONG! The SNP were happy with Labour's ammendment right up until the Tories introduced theirs. The SNP claim they wanted the motion to be cross-party yet consulted no other parties on their amendment
It's my understanding that the Tory ammendment was registered before Labour's to possibly prevent Labour from doing what they did. Hoyle allowed it, against convention, and then pushed the Labour ammendment to the front of the order so that it was voted on first, depriving the SNP of having their motion heard and voted on.
Labour have had plenty of time to table their own motion for a ceasefire -why didn't they do that until now? Starmer never supported an unconditional ceasefire and knew that his own party would rebel against that. Starmer's also thrown Hoyle to the dogs with his clumsy political games and weak leadership.@@leikfroakies
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Labour are bullies.
Why couldn't Starmer, the supporter of witholding food, electricity and water from children, let the party vote with their individual conciouses?
It was dishonest, and a clear commitment to stating its war crimes would trigger other laws into effect, so it is disappointing.
also SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
FREE SCOTLAND!
Every time you raise your right arm while speaking you look a lot like our German Cousin
WELL SAID !!!
Maybe there shouldn't have been a whip against such a vote anyway?
There's a whole new generation of teenagers who need to experience the reality of Labour and their corruption.
Here is what happened. Starmer conspired with the Speaker of the House (the guy who set up Labour "FRIENDS FOR ISRAEL") to crush the debate.
also SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Would love a toe to toe with you and Owen Jones, James. Maybe he can break it down for you.
Yes yes yes
Why wouldn't James allow the first speaker to finish/make a single point 🤔
The 🇬🇧 are lucky to have you. I wish we had your voice in 🇺🇲
You’re not listening today James I don’t think it’s about having you’re name on it at all, it’s all about the wording of slimey starmers
Absolutely
So, I criticize James and my comment is deleted. Great 👍
Blame the people who chose to vote for these MP’s. None of them are fit for purpose. 👍😂👍
This can't soley be down to Hoyle. Labour are completely aware of the conventions regarding opposition day motions, yet they drafted their own nonetheless.
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Politicking point scoring whilst more children are dying. What an utterly sad situation.
James doesn’t get things this hugely and clearly ignorantly wrong. Puts a whole new slant on his book which I’m half way thru. The SNP self evidently are the only ones that come out of this with any decency. Not knowing theSNP voted for labour’s alternative is astonishing
Absolutely
I am not quite sure but as far as I can work out - the political party who’s main aim is to not have any people sitting in the British Parliament are outraged by not been given any time in the British Parliament ?
23:38 it’s insanely disingenuous to act like you care about the plight of the Palestinian people, finger wagging towards the only main party on this island to back a ceasefire & the Palestinians after months of downplaying Israel’s intentions.
It's insanely disingenuous to act like you care about the plight of the Palestinian people when you freak out when the cross party ceasefire you said you wanted got voted through.
The SNP even said before the Tory amendment that they support Labour's amendment because they wanted a ceasefire
@@leikfroakies SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
SNP were playing the game well, they only need votes in Scotland. Try their hardest to do what their voters care about and that I personally feel, is what a party should do. We all know Labour can't occupy the SNP position as it's suicide for them. Does this excuse Labour? No. They were also playing the game. All the public will see, is that our politicians have failed to pass something a lot of us wanted to see passed, even though it was technically passed.
SNP amendment was more complete and more unequivocal than Labour’s… Besides the excuse of the speaker was weak… What would says terrorists now that berating MP works!!!
the UK May as well get on one knee for all the influence Britain has
James doesnt seem to get it. Just because it wouldnt go through casting votes allows mps to show their voters where they really stand. Members from all parties were going to vote with the snpo whether or not it passed and it would have made a strong statement. It wouldve also shown some togetherness over this contentious issue. Labour went and undermined democracy to score political points.
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Unfortunately we no longer have an honest politician in any party
Ended up here after CZcams just started to play this, now I’m considering staying to see if James got his melon edit after listening earlier 😂
Did you find the melon moment?
@@Jokerthief7 I’m still at my desk working, cat on my knee with James on my desktop telling me the same thing he told me this morning, we are just hitting mystery hour, so it won’t be long because it’s lunch time 🙃🤣
@@Jokerthief7 It would appears James got his Melon Edit by the looks of it 🤣🤣🤣
And the crowd outside were unlawfull mob
How do you baby’s callers when they agree with you and lead to them your talking points and celebrate when they repeat what you’ve just said to the previous person or before taking calls. It’s like the human centipede
I’m glad I’m not the only one at a loss in drawing a balance on all this. I thought maybe it was because I’m American that I wasn’t getting it.
denying the snp a vote on collective punishment denies palestinians an essential recognition of their suffering.
James ate an oyster egg! Bdum tsch! 😂😂😂
Why do these people think they know what the citizens are thinking when only the ignorant like them?
Neither did I understand what happened
Would you like me to explain?
Bully obrien radioed labour propaganda to his supporters to downplay labour role yesterday
Its in shreds dude, Scotland is disenfranchised
I have been patiently waiting for an explanation as well here.
The SNP weaponised Gaza to take down an insurgent Labour. The Tories helped the SNP out. Labour outmanoeuvred them both and no one seems to care that the UK government just passed a ceasefire motion
So sad to see James become Starmer's spokesperson.
To pass this motion required cross parliamentary support.
Steve should have had a chat with a top human rights lawyer to get his wording right.
I'm not convinced, James, no matter how much you're trying to spin it and defend Starmer... I've listen to you for months now and I have no doubt you're clever and smart. So why are you deflecting the seriousness of what happened yesterday? Yes, the fact that the cease fire motion passed is most important and the issue in Gaza shoud be the focus. But what happen in parlement is very concerning. I was expecting you would condemn the intimidation and scaremogering in action in our parliment. I will not vote Labour for as long as Starmer is the leader. He has to go!
SNP called for a ceasefire. Labour called for a ceasefire when Israel was ready.
Hoyle is unfit for the job. This was clear from the start. The man can't say anything unless it's written down verbatim.
If you in a democracy , actually think this was democracy ! Mmm
I like James in general, but the blind Corbyn hate is amusing at times. Bernie Sanders gains widespread grassroots support by putting out a progressive platform and he's a "wonderful man". Corbyn gains widespread grassroot support by putting out a progressive platform and he's the worst thing ever. Right... lol. And no, I'm not a Corbynista, I just find the complete lack of objectivity on anything Corbyn from James interesting.
It was the snps day ffs
SNP DO NOT REPRESENT SCOTS
Sorry but the SNP don't have a leg to stand on.
If they hadn't been behaving like children, then they wouldn't have been treated like children. That's got nothing to do with the constitutional question.