What Happened To The 2JZ?
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Today we are talking about the legendary 2JZ engine. Yes, the very same engine that helped pave the way for today's car enthusiasts when they heard the words. "2JZ, no sh**". This engine was one of the flagship platforms available from Toyota in the 90s, and its power capabilities are truly undeniable. So what happened? Why did this iconic design fall to the wayside? Tune in to find out what happened to the 2JZ Engine!
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0:00 Intro
1:35 The Plug
2:46 The Dawn of the JZ Engine
3:47 1JZ compared to the 2JZ
4:24 When the 2JZ Started Production
5:15 What Made it So Good?
7:21 Expensive But Worth It
7:48 The End of the 2JZ Era(A90)
10:23 Those Who Doubt The BMW Supra
11:48 Outro
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What happened to the RWD Celica #RA44
@@moka-chan2000 there’s a couple of them in my area !!!!!!
How about a video on this s2k we knew about for months now but just refuse to share with us….. quite disrespectful
What happened to suicide doors?
@@JB-sv5pr Hell ya very underrated cars but very very fun.
Charizard doesn’t evolve. Unless you’re talking about mega evos.
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@@JB-sv5pr That sounds dope. I wanna see it haha
If they called the b58 a 3jz, nobody would be upset. 😂
Haters are a marketing tool.
hahahahahahaha thats so true😂😂
That’s my plate for my mk5😂
They called a BMW a Supra and people are upset.
S58 is better, people don’t realize its potential yet. Second is S55, then B58
S58>S55>B58>N54
what happened to NISMO. Lately, they have been putting that badge on just about every Nissan, diluting the brand in the process.
Nismo jukes are actually sexy ngl
@@dd120398 no dude, you need some sleep
It’s the TRD effect. Back when I first started doing this shit, TRD actually sold cams and other real mods for Celicas, MR2Ts and Supras. Now they make a TRD Camry and Avalon.
@@dd120398 uhh. Fucking hell u get bleach in ur eyes?? Literally one of the ugliest cars in years. And even the Nismo version is a fkn disgrace to the brand.
@@dd120398 sorry but I have to strongly disagree with you on this one. Aesthetically speaking it has weird body lines, practicality is very minimal due to the lack of space, and the Nismo edition is super overpriced.
unfortunately, we are in a generation of new cars where 0 to 60 matters instead of being one with the car. automatic transmission had gone way better mpg than standard. I think if they offer a manual transmission, ppl would appreciate it more. it is a good looking car.
Yeah honestly I feel like that's the biggest gripe that people have. It will be interesting to see how the new Z sells in comparison.
Agreed. If they had offered a manual in the car ( something BMW still does ) I would have liked the car so much more. BMW always states that it is a "drivers" car. Why on earth would they have chose to do this. Such a big fail imo and I hope the new Z destroys the supra in sales next year because of it. The supra was by far my favorite car in the 90's but to throw an auto only supra at us is like a slap in the face.
@@Opethfan79 Wait the Z4 has a manual option? I assumed it was never offered with a stick which seemed like the only reasonable reason why Toyota didn't offer one.
I wouldn't be suprised if the Supra would get a manual as option, when the first period of sales from the new Z are known.
@@ichigozanghetsu that would be nice but I think toyota cares more about profit.
I would have loved for them to evolve the 2j but I understand the need to partner. However they absolutely should've put a manual option behind it and got rid of the bmw sounds. Or they should have never called it a supra
Yeah, it needs a third pedal. This is the biggest reason people don't like it from what I've seen. Maybe the new Z will get them to toss one in.
@@robred123s problem is they don't sell, The "internet" is the biggest one gripping, but they are never "buyers" anyways. when you look at sales numbers, autos outsell the manuals sometimes 5 to 1 or more. The ones making the biggest stink was never going to buy one anyway.
Agreed 💯
@@SupraDebt if it was actually a Toyota, with a manual, I would buy one.
I don't mind the whole bmw thing, but I'm biased because I'm an n54 owner
Towards the end of the video you definitely nailed it. First the N54 happened, then some time later a mistake happened, then the S55 and B58 happened and shit really hit the fan. The S58 potential is out of this world.
i feel like if they would sell them with a manual the sales would be much higher
Finally someone said it, a lot of the jdm people act like the b58 is the best thing ever when they are just getting a taste of these turbo inline 6s, s55 and s58 can make power even easier, rk tunes was able to make 700whp wheel on it already with stock turbos
Was the mistake the n55?
What are you talking about? The s58 is based off the b58 with a lot more beefed up internals lol
@@rubbadubbdubbs Guessing so, but it's still good, just not insanely capable like the n54, s55, and b/s58
short answer, the 2JZ was a cast iron Jabba the Hutt heavy bastard. Even a top end revolution giving it variable lift, and valve timing on both cams wouldn't have kept it going. eventually, you can't update it. the 2jz is still an engine to respect, but the B58 will eclipse the 2JZ in time. not in price or nostalgia, but in performance (durability, tunability, power to weight).
Yessir
I wish you luck when the 12 year olds find this comment
Iron to aluminium block conversation. Dual VVT-i, bi-turbo variable geometry turbos. You could update the 2JZ in many ways and match it with an 8-Speed ZF gearbox or a DCT. They knew it would be too reliable though.
People been saying the same thing when the 4b11 came out over the 4g63. Yet it still hasn’t surpassed the 4g63. Fastest pro mod bmw (s55) engine is a full second slower than a the fastest pro mod 2jz car
@@AldousForestTheLast check out officialy gassed, dct supra
2JZ can't beat new car emissions standards. Sorry, that's it. Toyota would love to keep selling it.
My car is Lambo orange pearl...it's not a Lambo.
Wow, you must’ve did more research than the guy that made this video!
No, probably not.
@@mikeyerke3920 That is why all the older designs must be updated. Every year we lose engines in the name of clean air. All while Apple destroys the world out of sight for the glorious iPhone.
Its called the B58!
If someone can tune a c5 to get 40mpg I'm pretty sure Toyota an pass emissions with a 2jz. Not to mention all the 2j variants out there.
i appreciate having this channel having the official captions enabled! sometimes I be sleepy and watch car vids as I fall asleep with the video sound playing quietly and the captions drip feeding my consciousness info about the discontinued 2JZ
Finally someone said it, a lot of the jdm people act like the b58 is the best thing ever when they are just getting a taste of these turbo inline 6s, s55 and s58 can make power even easier, rk tunes was able to make 700whp wheel on it already with stock turbos
How do JDM people like B58? From what I've seen, the JDM guys hate the B58 and want a Toyota-made "3JZ" in the new Supra
@@brandongao3675 exactly man
@@brandongao3675 but it’s dumb because Toyota already came out the gate 10 years ago when development of the new Supra started and said they weren’t gonna put a 2JZ in there, mostly due to the cost of having to rework their factories to make the engines again, and two, they wouldn’t be able to pass strict emissions and safety standards with it had they chose to use the engine again. They went with whoever was still making in-line 6 engines and BMW was literally the only company that fit the bill.
That was an amazing review lex. I love your show.
What happened to affordable mid engined sports cars?
People stopped buying them so companies can't justify spending money on R&D for sales losses
You can tell they're a Midwest company when they still remind you to like them on facebook.
Huge hug from Mozambique
My opinion of the new Supra has changed , thank you fitment industries I hope to get some tires and wheels from y’all soon.
I love my B58 in my M240i, already up to 500whp
As a fanboy to both companies bmw engines like the good ol' M5X series yes they're N/A but when you tubo them and add a thick headgasket, headstuds and some fuel goodies are easily capable of 800 and you can check every bmw platform online and you'll know.
But for the supra it'd be beautiful if it got a limited run powered by an S58 cuz that engine is more than capable of a safe sub 1000whp
Ohhh crap!
Jzx 🤣🤣🤣!
Been having a Cressi for quite some time now love that Chassis.
Mx83 with a jzx myself....drives gteat
@@bryansenulis7242
MX73 over here but swap it to JZ bought just a shelf back when you could still find them under 1k.👌🏽
The intro is fire!🔥
I been asking for the CRZ for like 2 years. Hope I get noticed someday
Once Ita gone hybrid, it's not coming back. Sales numbers show
Sometimes change is good. For example the 4G63 was a great engine, but the 4B11 was also a brilliant "evolution" of Mitsubishi's 4 cylinder turbo. The 2JZ was legendary, but the B58 has the potential to be better or even in a league of its own with todays technology and todays tuners.
4B11 can never replace or exceed 4G63 in terms of performance and tuneability. Same thing b58 can never replace 2jz. As those fanboys say, and i agree. You don't see 1000+hp b58. Yes, 2jz iron is heavy and emission is bad. But if you up the HP, power to weight ratio still works out. Just because emission law in Europe and US is shit. Here in Asia, we are revving blowing emissions up to 1500hp and loving it.
This channel deserves more views.... 👀
Gonna be ordering some enkeis and pilot sports tonight so if u guys could out for it tomorrow morning, that’d be awesome. Ask Izak, I’ve been talking to him about it.
All Subaru vehicles look the same now: change my mind.
I feel like every manufacturer is doing that these days 😂
The new wrx looks like a Buick and an accord
Really good video, amen bro
Glad I have a 2JZ, I love that engine. But Im hoping for a MKV S58 supra coming from toyota
Could you guys do an episode on what happened to the Ford Probe? It's very niche but I think it could be interesting
Hello everyone on September 2nd my car got totaled do to a flood it was the first car I bought basically new it was a 2017.
I just want it to said it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Enjoy your cars to the fullest you never know what could happen the next day.
Ooooh. 4k, nice! :D
Cant talk snack about my gray 2003 Chevrolet Impala. It was a beast pushing sub 100hp
Im getting kansei knp for my bugeye wrx and i plan on getting artisa wheels for my 01 outback
Why in the Hell did the commercial pop up during the Hypest drop Alex has done in a while !!!! please move it to after the montage.
Keeps you there, right? Think about other folks watching.
What happened to Silvia
Ayyyyyy Cayman Jack - Alex knows whats up
I surely love fitment industries
I love that they where talking about how the bmw b58 is great and show a mk5 that was 2jz swapped
Yeah okay good video as always I would like to know what happened to Buick next video perhaps 🤔😛😂🤘
So you want a Buick Regal GS (2012+)
YOOOOOO I MADE THE VIDEO they highlighted my comment
Where my IS300 bois at
Na bro sc gang got here first
Fucking love my IS, such a great car
anybody know the song for the intro? everytime i listen to it im like HELL YEAHHHH
Can you do a vid about a 1974 fiat spider 124 PLEASE
Please do a So You Want to Lift Your WRX :How to video!!
I love the quality and topic of this video but I also hate it because I desperately want a JZX1000, Chaser, or a Cresta so damn bad and this just helps fo feed my desire 😂
LOVE this video, I kept explaining to my friends why Toyota went with Bmw for the new supra and they just didn’t understand, the mk5 supra is close to perfect, I just can’t stand the bmw complete interior and the bmw chime
That 128i chime hahaha
It beats the rental car interior the Mk4 Supra and every car Toyota seems to have. If I’m paying $50k-$60k for a car then the interior needs to match the price point. I don’t want a Supra that has the interior looking and feeling like a base model Corolla. If I wanted a Corolla interior, then I would save thousands of dollars and just buy a Corolla instead.
@@davidm2938 😂😂
@@original__gmebvy have you ever sat in a mk4 supra and drove it vs a corolla? If not pls delete this comment 😂😂.
Right. Toyota couldn’t have developed a sports car solo, disregard the RCF, LC 500, GR Yaris….
Frankly its quite odd that Toyota isn’t using a 40 year old motor in a car, after all whats the 4runner?
I mean to be fair, Toyota was the same Car Manufacturer who believe not many young adults were buying their cars, because of videos games...
What is that song in the intro though???
Absolutely loved this video......i wanna buy the new supra now for some reason.....but i'm just a collage boy with about 1k in his pocket lol
Great job Alex. I don't hate the BMW Supra.
Infinity Q60 video please
im just so glad, here in the south, aka the land of nascrap racing, to hear other gearheads talk about & make reference to REAL racing! ...verstappen for the win alex!
What wheel is to (our right) of Alex’s head ??
i hope the 12 year olds are watching this
Overused joke
@@user-ft4bl4lh9w im just really sick of the supra supremacy and mk5 is a bmw jokes
@@KamiKatzeCos Ok but what does that have to do with 12 year olds?
@@user-ft4bl4lh9w They are usually the ones who scream about 2JZ being a engine created by the god himself. Fanboying too much.
@@VNTRFilms Yeah, something that rarely or littarly doasnt happen.
30 year old motor can make 750whp reliably fairly easy and cheap. A 3jz could’ve been a stroked 3.2 2jz with higher boost factory and be 650hp. B58 is a great motor. But bmw isn’t known for reliability.
Some were mad it didn't have a "3jz".. a HELL of a lot more ppl were mad that it doesn't have a manual
whats the intro music ?
anyone know what music plays at 1:23?
Shout out Trinidad and Tobago @4:00
Charizard is the final evolution, Charmander is the base form.
I got you.
im fine with the b58 and the exterior, i just think it falls short in the interior department and not having a manual
Day 258 of asking for "So you want a VW Passat W8".
I vote for this!
Although, they won't do it, probably for being a rather rare car, specially in North America. It's like saying: So you want a lancia Thema ferrari!
Just for the lulz, the S58b30 (new M3/4) is a Closed Deck Biturbo Engine wich has already proven to handle easily 750 hp just with Bolt ons.
What happened to 4G63, should be next
What happened to pop up headlights?
Do the Toyota Curren / 3S-GE
0:23 I was expecting a different kind of joke.
5:01 that car is from our area. Bangladesh
Grigio silverstone?!?! I'm clueless 🤣🤣🤣
You forgot the Verossa
What happened to the SR20 VVL?
I build Supra’s for a living and anything that has a JZ swapped into it. The 2JZ’s head does Not flow well. Yes, yes, it has a Iron block and a amazing Crank.. but other than that it’s a heavy lazy motor. If it wasn’t for a turbo the 2JZ would suck. We’ve built N/A non vvti and VVTi and both barely broke 200hp to the wheels on E85.. there’s a lot more impressive engines out there, but the aftermarket support is what adds to the awesomeness of the 2J…
So what happened to the rb26?🤔
My only problem is the automatic gear box I wish they had a six or 7 speed manual transmission
You mean Charmander evolves to Charmeleon and Charmeleon evolves into Charizard. 🤦🏻
Good video none the less lol
3jz would be a 3.5L closed deck aluminum block, twin scroll turbo and boom awesome
What happened to the Honda prelude
I think people were more mad about the fact that a company worth billions of dollars pretty much handed (Austria) BMW the job to build an iconic car like the Supra. Uh, sorry, I meant partnered.
i saw the 2jz in the celica supra. the celica supra was damaged. but the 2jz wasn't. i thank the gods for that engine
The reason everyone isn't a fan of the MKV is because it takes specialty tools to breakdown and or fix unlike the 2J which was kept simple partly due to Yokohama.
In my opinion the a90 is not that good of a continuation for the Supra, but before you flame me in the comments read this:
In my opinion the car feels kinda rushed i am sure the a90 may be faster but again it's not that big of a difference after 20 years. Also the interior is kinda dull unlike the a80 but maybe they couldn't give it some character bc it was a partnership with bmw. If i had to pick one it would be the a80 bc it has more character and it's more fun to drive imo(i don't really like autos) but i can appreciate what toyota tried to do. In conclusion i think Nissan picked a better aproach for the Z than Toyota for the Supra.
What happened to Rx7/rotory engine ?
Fingers crossed that Mazda Inline 6 that Toyota is helping them will be a spiritual successor to the 2JZ.
I remade your 430 in forza horizon 4, it’s a good drifting car 😬😬🔥🔥
That's lit lol
Yes sir💯💯
When you going to get 8 lug wheels my excursion needs some new rims
That's what their sister company, Custom Offsets, is for
The N54 had an open deck and could be tuned to make obscene power
single turbo n54 owner right here, I'm the proof lol
Na
Just mad they don’t offer the mk5 with a manual
The other big thing that came from the BMW partnership is that BMW liked the Mirai and the hydrogen fuel cell. Toyota is offering their tech to them and BMW is already testing a hydrogen X5 with 374hp. With the state of the market and hybrids or alternative fuel vehicles taking over, Toyota would rather make moves there than make a 1 off Supra and new straight 6 engine. Toyota is pushing Hydrogen Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Combustion Engines and wanting that to be what the Prius was for Hybrids back then. Doing the MKV on their own would also make the car costs a lot more to make profit. The LFA was an exception to boost the Lexus brand image and a lot of the R&D learned from it went into the F cars and LC500 after it. Toyota had a lot more of their hand in the development of the MKV than haters give credit for.
Mazda is making an inline 6 3.0 turbo and Lexus will be using it in some of its models.
Curious to see what mazda will do with it for their own models
fuck that, tryna see what lexus is
I think it would have been better if Toyota took the gt86 platform and made it slightly wider, more aggressive body lines, stronger drive train, different interior(Maybe 90's inspired) and dropped a 3L inline 6 into it. Then the supra would be the better version of the gt86 like it started out being the better version of the Celica.
Despite what everyone says, the B58 is a worthy successor to the 2jz in spirit. I say the 440i is more supra then the A90 or new N4.
What happened to simple (good looking) oem wheels
What happened to fixing your own car? I drive an 05 so I don't worry abt this shit but it'd be nice if I could still fix my car in the garage in the future
Same.
Ford mk2 5 cylinder 😍😍
What happened to the N55????????
What happened to the RB26
Next video title: "What happened to Coste- Solitary intro music"
Easy - it’s not an episode of “So You Want”.
My main question would be. Why didn't they look at the lexus parts bin? They have plenty of powerful v8 and turbo v6 engines.
It got 2layZ…,
The humble brag tho