What Happened To VTEC?
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One of the most memorable pieces of the 90s car scene is none other than Honda's VTEC Systems. When Honda developed their NCE program in 1984; it would eventually birth the Variable Valve Timing system that introduced additional power, fuel economy, and one hell of an exhaust note to anyone with a Honda badge. So What Happened? Where did this fantastic piece of automotive culture go? Sit down with Alex as he goes over What Happened to VTEC!
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0:00 Pre Roll Ad
0:37 Intro
1:47: The Plug
2:25: The Beginning of VTEC
3:51 Different Types of VTEC
6:23 Why It Was Special
8:43 Gaining Popularity
10:40 Final Thoughts
11:35 Outro
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The best of them all, the DA GSR Integra
You should talk about coming out to Tokyo, JDM cars, hanging out in Daikoku PA and eating ramen.
When you guys going to get 8 lug rims
Can we talk about the Honda 5 cylinders??
I can just see Pumphrey going, âBaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!â
Yessss MO POWAA BABY
Buff horses đ
That is the first thing that my mind struck lol
@@ogdiablo2461 LIGHTNING, LIGHTNING!!
POP UP, UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTSSSSSS
I remember being in high school asking how VTEC worked and my uncle straight faced lied đ
LoL!
Not lying, pride smashed, exposed for lack of knowledge.
Vs.
Lying
Humiliation avoided
There is more than one type. For example SOHC or DOHC, I-VTEC or eco-VTEC. F series or B series. Etc., etc.
@@johnnykwon8173 @dave nava nah he said it like it was some cam shift switch only at some certain rpm turbo đ
@@infadelakainf it is on d and b series. The cam has two profiles. One low cam lobe profile for rpm lower than approximately 5,500 rpm and a high lobe profile for when VTEC activates above 5,500 rpm. With k series oil pressure is used to lock the lower profile with the higher profile so that only the high lobe profile is what's activating the valves. Ferrari had this system a long time ago in F1, Honda made it more affordable. My opinion.
@@johnnykwon8173 today I understand how it changes profiles. But you gotta admit that people giving kids bad info is funny
"Take a shot everytime I say VTEC"
Ah shit... Here we go again...
I can sense James Phumprey's energy in Alex...
Their older videos are more original
I think Alex has more energy and a different kind of vibe. Heâs more sarcastic and funny without trying too hard to be
Alex is my favorite from fitment industries he's a cool guy
I always loved the induction noise on VTEC engines especially with an aftermarket intake and filter. Sure you weren't going fast but it felt like it đ
s2000,nsx,integra type r,the humble civic si and type r weren t fast? what? If these cars aren t fast,then i m not sure i know what fast is.
Iâve got an s2000 and I mean it isnât exactly what Iâd call slow, especially for a car made 21 years ago
In today's era you need at least 500hp to be considered fast. Crazy times we living.
My fn2 type r screams with a HKS intake
@@MsHaiducu if it isn't in 12s 1/4 mile or 0-60 I'm under low 4s then yeah, it's not fast, and none of those cars are close without mods
20 + years later we still talk about it. These motors still stand true till this day.
If that doesnât speak for itself, I donât know what will.
Had the pleasure of owning JDM DC2 Type R with the B18C and that thing was glorious. When VTEC comes on it really pulls - thereâs nothing until about 6000 RPM and then BAM it hits you. And the sound! It was sublime. I now have a JDM CL7 Euro R with a K20A. VTEC still comes on strong but is more refined than a B series. It still revs to the moon though which I love. Love the old school Hondas.
Still rocking a built N/A B18C5 in my Civic; there are faster options but the nostalgia/feel/sound of the "BAAAAAAA" will always put a smile on my face, and that's all that matters.
Lies, white boys donât know about Hondaâs.
B series vtec had the best, loudest, most pronounced crossover, F20/F22 has the next. Glad your still rocking B. Its getting super rare these days
@@bobbyrios2k223 Nah, J32A2 has the best sounding VTEC
@@klowenstein483 That's only single VTEC not dual VTEC. The J series are SOHC
@@johnmitchell2269
J37A2, A4, A5 is the only ones with Dual VTEC
The VTEC engine does and always will have a special place in my heart
Alex... all I have is 110% ever clear moonshine. I donât know if I can do 70 more shots.
Not with that attitudeâŠ
Ok
Too many V-Tec trimsđ
I wanna try moonshine
Don't be a Sally boy
There's nothing I would trade for the sound of VTEC in my RSX Type S.
I just got one and itâs amazing
I have a base model đ„Č but the dream is k20a!
Agree
RSX gang rise up
@@DrRockso9 rsx gangggâ base model thođ„Č
Japan: "We've got VVTI, VTEC etc..."
America: "We've got... somethin', it's in there and it does stuff, just ain't got a nametag"
Germany: "Ve haf Thanos, ya!"
dude... hahaha
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My vtec still hits hard till this day. I have 09 civic si, the last generation of true vtec.
I love my 08 si i debated for a solid month on a white 2008 si coupe or a brand new 2012 4 door si in that burnt orange they came in i ended up picking the 08 but honestly the k24 ruined it the k20 is such an animal and you start adding mods to it and hondata its a completely different engine they make easy power i know k24's can to just as easy but the sound of a k20 is far superior over a k24 where you barely hear a cross over
Real Gang ishhhh Iâm in a â10 accord âŠstraight sleeper with Vtec
I had the 3.5 L 08 accord with the VTEC and that was a MACHINE
â@@monstereng43tou can hear the k24a2 crossover but not in stock form, an intake intake and headers are needed and the big lobes are not so big compared to small one in k24 in k20 it's a big difference between the two and that's why the crossover is louder and more brutal
VTEC vs Turbo: VTEC systems from the beginning had Honda reliability and could still be used for multiple owner cars that enthusiasts could modify. Volume factory turbos (from the 80s mopars to german luxobarges to todays ecoboost) have a rep for likely expensive failures so not as good a used car to modify for fun.
The reliability mostly comes down to being an N/A and hard to modify... the big power built ones has the reliability equal as any other performance motors.
L series motors are boosted and really reliable xd
Of course they will be failures, the avergae man does not understand that one must not shut down a heated car, let it cool one minute
@@metalgearray6832 if built/tuned properly, they're reliable. Had a top end w/ITR pistons, LS/Vtec that rev'd to 9.4k rpms. Ran smoother than any factory Honda and was just as reliable. The tune is where its at.
@@sandtanmaroon Iâve seen a handful of L series with cracked sleeves already
Two preludes and a gsr under my belt. I love it.
When I was too young to own a car, I used to hate on Hondaâs just like everyone else, I loved Subaruâs because of their rumble. Fast forward to when I got my first car, a 2001 Honda prelude, absolutely fell in love with Vtec now Iâm driving a k20 civic SI and I LOVE IT. Iâve driven lambos and gtrâs and understand why people gravitate towards those but there is no replacement for the art of vtec. Nothing beats a 9k redline and zero boost lag imo!
I never saw myself getting into Hondas or even diving that deep into cars ever, but here I am, still with 2 out of the 3 Hondaâs Iâve ever owned, my most recent purchase being the JDM â94 lude I travelled halfway across the country to trailer back home to Wisconsin. So awesome to hear about your Honda story and I felt I needed to share mine, especially since you started with a prelude!
Me too the ricey civics killed it for me, here I am with a 92 cb7 accord saving up for a h22 swap.
I never got the hype behind vtec until I drove my buddy's Acura that had it. It's so much fun
@@bullsnation5420 f23a > h22a same block just a single cam just find a dohc head and you got an h swap or an f20b h23aâs used to be dirt cheap years ago
Grew with Hondas from the get go because of my brother. The last one I had was 12 years ago, I had an eg8 with a poor manâs type R, back then when nobody really messed with those.
Iâve had other cars after that, I currently have a 2019 5.0 stang, but I wanna get a Honda again for a project car, now that I can financially do the things I couldnât back in the day.
""But what I can say is that my 12 1/2 compression turbo charged K-series with VTEC is gonna sound like Gina Gerson whispering sweet nothings into my ear until we blow a cylinder to the f*cking moon"
Bruh I'm fucking dying đđđ
Guess me cracking piston ring-lands aint so bad now đđ
I smiled when you mentioned Prelude. Thanks. I love my and 5500 rpm vtec
My first car was a 92 prelude si that was given to me by my motherâŠsadly it was of course an automatic and it was the H22 non vtec motor 160hp âŠI believe in 93 they had the H23 vtec 195 hp motorâŠman I loved that car digital dash and all
Everyone beeing drunk at the end of this video just because Alex decided to say "Take a shot everytime i say VTEC"
Oh noâŠâŠ
Way ahead of you... đ·
Shit I was drunk before halfway through the videođđ
Just picked up a 2000 civic SI and I love hitting 6k rpm
Damn bro what a find, how much did it cost?
Get an ecu reflash, puts vtec at roughly 4500 and brings the car to life
I daily one myself too!! So addicting to just pull all the way to 8000+rpm and let it scream
Even in a 2000 odyssey, the VTEC still hits lol
The new odyssey and pilot does the same
@@joseacuna3239 its not the same :( the 00-06 odysseys had some damn getup
I had a 2001 Prelude. It was a stylish pocket rocket! I miss it!
My first experience with VTEC was from a 2006 RSX Type S I bought a few years back. Wanted to try a Honda product as I've been more of a German car enthusiast and I now get why people love it. The fact that you can have multiple characteristics in the same car is pretty amazing (especially above 4500 RPM when the theater kicks in). Actually in the process of building a K Swap into a spare E30 to get the best of both worlds.
The world wasn't ready for VTEC.
my rsx feels like a fucking spaceship at 5500 rpms, the literal best feeling you can get for the money
Vtec with some quality bolt-ons...I truly miss that scream of the engine.
VTEC is one of the many reasons i chose my 8th gen civic si as my first project car. love it so far.
8th Gen Si is my daily, my project car is actually the thumbnail in this video. lol
Long story on my 97 accord but I've had it for 8 years and recently did a swap from an F22(None VTEC) to F23A(2.3L VTEC). It's still stock for the most part but I've caught V6 mustangs tuned so I guess it works. I will probably do a light tune after so cam and piston work.
As having owned a VTEC H22A Prelude, a D15Y8 VTEC single cam Civic, and two DC2 Integra B18C6 Hondas, there is NOTHING coller than the visceral feel of all of them..yeah even the D15, it gives you an experience, because its so present in the cabin. Its just frikking great
I'm not a loyalist or anything I've had gti's, 300zx's and m3's in the past. I recently got a 9th gen accord in v6 manual and probably my favorite car I've ever had.
Shoulda kept the 300zx
@@Lofi.z34 I loved the couple I owned but I was constantly needing to work on them. Too high maintenance for my current life style sadly.
From my 2nd gen Prelude to my current daily 1st gen TSX....I love the reliabity of the VTEC systems and the nice pull on the freeway
A V6 already sounds pretty good but hitting vtec on a V6 really sounds different đđŸ
The 3.8l Mustang was the best sounding V6 haha. I'm just saying that V6s are usually horrible sounding. Just drone.
@@Ryanbmc4 Iâd say the vr38DETT takes the cake for best sounding v6
@@IndicesDon Your taste may vary but some V6s that sound good also are the Dino V6, Alfa Romeo V6s, Jaguar F Type V6, and early NSX V6s. Even a properly built VQ can sound insane and I mean that in a good way. Also the KL-(DE/ZE) V6 motors by Mazda sound pretty nice. The 2GR found in the Camry V6 can sound good too. Itâs the same engine found in the Evora and one of the Elises I think. Iâm sure there are others I havenât even heard yet that sound pretty good but those are just off the top of my head.
Edit: I also forgot about the 6A12 found in the Mitsubishi FTO. They have such a unique sound to them and when that Mivec hits, ooh Mann..
@@IndicesDon my comment was just a joke. They sounded horrible. I'm not really a fan of the VR engines for the same reason. The Jag and Alpha V6s do sound good though. Surprisingly.
I love my evo 8 but i honestly miss my s2k to me the f20c is hands down one of is the best sounding 4 cycles of all time.
My 2001 Celica GTS has Toyota;s version. Certainly fun when it goes into lift.
I got an 05 Matrix XRS and I hit lift everyday basically lol I caught a v6 camaro sleeping as I hit the on ramp lmao only got ported headers and a SRI. Exhaust and reflash in the future so i can enter lift around 5800 or 6k and keep limiter at 8200 to be safe lol
@@jamescordeiro4939 better hope you have an oil pan baffle for those long right turning on ramps tho :o
Got a 03 gts just got it and i felt vteck I messed around with plenty of hondas but with Toyotaâs âliftâ it feels completely different when it kicks in I must be crazy but the 2zz vs k20 needs to be looked into more
Oh man how much I miss the old school Vtec, nothing sounds more pure than an s2k or even the 8th gen SI as well as the Integra/Rsx type S âŠ.Although, Iâm glad the FK8 Type R is boosted! Checks every box for me hands down! đđœ
Why no love for the 3rd gen TL? By far the best car I've ever owned and it's way cheaper than my previous bk2 hyundai genesis. Great power, great manual transmission, great looks, comfort, really nice interior that actually held up super well despite the time.
I love my 3g TL. By far the best car Iâve ever owned. And Iâve never had any trouble passing someone
Saw someone with an s2000 rebuilt to hit 11k rpm, don't know much about Honda's but I do like the way they sound.
I absolutely love my from the factory ttv8; the power, the torque, the luxury. With that being said, my near stock ap1 s2000 with minor tire/suspension mods is the funnest car Iâve ever owned. Hitting VTEC in a rwd drop top going around the local twisties never gets old.
He didn't really mention this but the dual lobes in a lift based VTEC system aren't just for fuel economy and power. A smaller cam profile will have an earlier torque peak, larger profile a later torque peak. VTEC allows you to have both. So, even though you get better mpg with the smaller cam it also makes it idle better, easier to drive, and both sets of lobes work together to give you a better torque curve.
I'm not sure about the 3-4 valve i systems. I would imagine only having 3 valves at the same lift would be only for economy.
Itâs what I miss most after moving on to my STI .
I have a 2021 Honda Ridgeline with a J35 with EarthDreams Vtec and that suckerpunch power at 5k rpms still exists. I love hearing it. Vtec is still alive babyyyy.
âThat 2500$ preludeâ hit the spot man đ„Čđ
Just saw a Suzuka blue S2000 today, me and the guy had a ball takin tech. it was super clean with the Cr looking oem spoiler. 17s w/ hankook v12s... â€â€â€
Thanks Alex great video sir âïžâ€ïžđ
I got a k20 in my civic fn2 type r (ivtec) and i absolutely love it
I've had my 98 itr for 8 years now and it never gets old to hear that vtec crossover alongside the turbo spooling.
As a 10th gen Civic Si coupe owner⊠I do sometimes wish I were in the âVTEC gang.â However, Iâve made some nice power gains with off the shelf tunes with my turbo charged engine.
Sad.
I'm just happy a Cr-Z made it into the B-Roll
I never understood why vtec was superior until I got into my friends dc2 teg. The sound and feeling is nuts. made me buy an 01 Prelude the moment I had the money for it. Absolutely love the thing
I have a h22a integra and Iâm fixing my vtec switch rn but when it was working đł I was so amazed.
VTEC is the best. I used to have a Del Sol with the D16 and it was very noticeable. Now I have an S2000 (I was at the Showcase Show ;)) and I have the VTEC locked in so I don't have that jump when I am already full boost.
I have a jdm ep3 and absolutely love it!
Vtec in my prelude was awesome sound. Full exhaust n headers with the cold air intake.. fun car..
Thanks y'all for that absolutely fire content. Every single video is being savored upon release
Appreciate the love fam!
I've ridden in a Honda with V-tech and when compared to the turbo in my VW it doesn't feel as fast, it's louder but it doesn't accelerate as hard, but in terms of slow cars it's pretty fun
Besides vtec
The second greatest lift was on the corolla and matrix xrs of 2003 06 models
Yamaha engines vvtli
My mom rented a customized one with a downpipe and flame decals. I was the coolest kid in the car loop in 3rd grade đ
I drove my father in laws prelude when my car was in the shop for a couple days and I tell you what⊠that thing kinda ripped more than I expected an n/a 4 banger to. Itâs was a ton of fun and I enjoyed every second of it
Had a JDM Integra Type R DB8 unicorn for a bit,and mated to that gearbox it was nippy! It sounded great. The B18C4 from another Honda VTi makes great power when boosted because of VTEC too.
I have a 2017 Honda Accord touring v6 in black, I remember coming up at a stop sign to get onto the highway. With so much traffic I hit my foot on the gas and floored it so I can merge and, while going from 0-60 onto that highway which has an overpass bridge , I could hear my vtec kick in while going under that bridge. It was the scariest and sweetest sound youll ever hear.
I took a shot every time he said VTEC... I can hear colors now.
Bought a brand new 94 Integra GSR back in the day....it was awesome to zing it from 6000-8000 rpm. Friend that had an Accord wouldn't believe me that the GSR could rev to 8000 until I demonstrated and he was literally amazed because his frame of reference was his Accord.
VTEC in my 97 NSX, when it hits makes me think I just broke the sound barrier. It made the whole NSX project work, without it they had a slick looking aluminum sports car in need of a â€ïž. VTEC is the NSX first gens â€ïž.
The first car that was ever truly mine was a 1998 Accord V6. It has a 3.0L VTEC engine that, when originally sold, produced 200 HP. I say "has" because it's still running after over 270k miles. I'm not sure I could have bought a car for about $3,500 that offered a better driving experience and was still quite reliable.
I've got the v6 with the intake side vtec, although it's the 'fake' version, it makes the family car accord feel like a totally different car past 5k rpm
I have the V6 with dual VTEC (J37A4) and it isn't much better. We have tiny cams to begin with lol.
Fake? đ€Ł
Itâs still vtec. But because itâs a v6 it canât go at very high rpms
@@grecopaok It's not that different, my redline is 6900 instead of the i4's low 7k. I call it fake vtec because it only opens up intake valves as the rest of the sohc is taken up by the vcm system
@@zaydabbas1609 you need to understand how it works. Sohc vtec is still vtec just like evo 9 had mivec on intake cam only and new type r has it on exhaust cam onlyâŠ. They are different systems for different power bands etc
my first car ever was a 93 Prelude in red picked it up for 3,500ish$ off a dude in Calgary in late 2015. I wish I still had that thing, it was such a fun little car!
I'm 36 an been in the Honda game since I was 14. I had a crx si 89 , I remember welding motor mounts to swap a b18 in.
Like my auto shop teacher once said:
"There's no replacement for displacement"
Honda boy:"yeah, but there's V-TEC"
Even for those who they think is just noise and bs by time they get to experience one, automatically an smile comes to their face without even notice it lol, not only the sound but light weight makes them handle amazing, you don't need more to have tons of fun.
love vtec, just got my honda civic 1.6 vti f1 about a mont ago, enjoying it every day :D
5 mins into "take a shot for every V-tech" I died from alcohol poisoning
ill never forget hitting vtec in my b16 crx in the late 90s. good times.
I got a b20b JDM high compression with a 16a2 V-tec head and an EM1 trans......it will never be over played...i give you the sauce
Bought a prelude and best purchase yet
Great video
Vtec is the way! That pronounced crossover is addicting. Sure its not the fastest thing.. not even close, but it sounds heavenly and i gotta hit it multiple times a day đđ
I own a 95 delsol, with b16a3, i love it, engine rebuilt, 9200 rpm redline!!!
MOAR VTEC videos please. Like, tell me things about the I-VTEC, FA5 specifically. For the glory of 8th Gens. Are they the "last true vtec" or do they mark the end of the era before. Lot of knowledge in this video, thank you.
I love my VTEC sound in my 5th gen Preludes' H22. 5.5k RPMs and were off!
Bro that vtec in my k20z3 8th genđ„Ž I swear to soichiro that launch from 2nd to 3rd could shoot me to spaceđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
I had a 97 prelude H22 the thump of VTEC kicking in was quite satisfying...I've driven some newer hondas only the s2000 has a similar kick
i love my s2k so much and it makes me more excited for the k20 im gonna drop in my miata
Boosted prelude here. I absolutely love VTEC.
VTEC IS THE TRUTH. Period.
I remember having my 05 rsx type s that I Vtec with just an intake was no joke đ
RIP VTEC, 1989 to 2015. Last VTEC legend was the 2015 Civic Si. I love my K24 CL9 with VTEC.
Itâs funny. My dad and I both had the Honda ridge line pickups. No one believed they had any guts until at about 4500 rpms the VTEC kicked in and reminded people that it was indeed a Honda. Gotta love that system. Iâm going to modify my wifeâs odyssey just for kicks and giggles.
I love VTEC!!! Maybe itâs because I have an AP1 S2k. Iâve had 2 CLâs an Integra and have driven a few other VTEC Hondaâs and Acuraâs. The s2000 is definitely the most intense at the point where that shit kicks in. When I first bought it, I couldnât believe how much it kicked in. It sounds pretty crazy and it starts pulling quite a bit harder. Iâd love to get a hold of an NXS. I bet they do the VTEC thing proper.
I was a blessed 5yr old when vtec came out. Knew my future grocery getting was bright!
Need more VTEC! đïž
I'm in the process of getting the parts together for a D16Y7 Y8 VTEC mini me swap and turbo with forged internals for my 97 Civic Coupe.
Alexâs WPM vtec kicked in yo!!
Great, now I miss my Jackson racing supercharged GSR...
My first car, a â91 Integra, didnât have VTEC, and I was so jealous.
Iâve only ever owned Hondas, but my luck hasnât fully cooperated, because my â17 Civic Hatchback also doesnât have VTEC. I went from one too old to have it to one too new to have it.
Maybe someday Iâll get to pick up an S2000 or something!
Those FK8s in the video, sick ASF!
my acura rl has a 3.5 v6 dohc vtec and i love it đ©
The value of vtec left with the low displacement high rpm engine. By 2000 everyone had variable valve timing to improve performance, but instead of using it to get a gutless motor to make a lot of horsepower they did it bring down the peak torque of NA motors and extend the torque curve.
Check out the Coyote 5.0 Ti-VCT. It's like the VTech except with multiple rpm ranges adjustablility instead of just the upper RPM range. It gives u economic drivability and performance out of this world for per liter unlike any other competing American V8.
V-Tech will always be awesomeđđ
Vtec with a turbo and intercooler is where its at
Coming home from school and turning on TV to be bumpin' music while making food was the good times