Best to avoid aluminum cases in Blowback guns. They do not expand like brass and steel and lack the structural strength so there is more likelihood the case will release from the chamber and hang un supported while pressure is still too high from firing that round and kaboom the Gun. Guns with some sort of locking lug design are more likely to be OK with it because there is a mechanism there to keep the action closed until pressure is down.
Your welcome and thanks for watching. I almost bought a Gen 2 as KelTec been offering a 100 dollar rebate. Just before buying I saw the release of the Gen 3.
I zeroed day 1. Day 2 I was able to hit paper but was off bullseye by a few clicks. Day 3 was the same. My thought is there's the slightest bit of play somewhere in the locking system. Or maybe it's just how much pressure I hold on the gun.
Why does having to slam it open affect the zero and the recoil don’t? The reason I was asking I’m looking to buy one and would hate to have to zero it every time I opened it. Could it just be the red dot sight you’re using?
I think the issue is that there is the slightest bit of wiggle in the hinge' So unless you have it marked it's not going back to the exact same spot. My opinion is wasn't made to be a precision shooter. But it is good enough to stay on paper. Keep in mind also this could have been just the gun I was shooting.
The manual for the gen 3 only says - "The SUB2000 is a semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 9mm Luger cartridge". A friend of mine reached out to Kel tec on the Gen 2 a while back and there response was "Aluminum cased is not unsafe unless it's Plus p ammo. Only brass cased is recommended".
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Pretty sure it says right on the website NOT to use aluminum cased ammo. Regardless it looks really fun to shoot. My question is how sore are your shoulders after shooting 200 rounds 😂 Also what if you just ran a laser on it in addition to a Red Dot?
Hi Sir. The manual only says - "The SUB2000 is a semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 9mm Luger cartridge. A friend of mine reached out to Kel tec on the Gen 2 a while back and there response was "Aluminum cased is not unsafe unless it's Plus p ammo. Only brass cased is recommended". Now to your questions. My shoulder was not sore at all. It does kick more than I like and you learn pretty quick how firmly to hold the gun. As far as sights, it depends on your needs. For home defense and fun at the range, a red dot and a laser is a great combo. For "bugging out" I would want a red dot and iron sights. Hope this helpful.
Your welcome and thanks for watching. I was using the Sig Sauer SRD9 suppressor with a 1/2 x 28 piston and a fixed barrel washer. I simply just screwed it on.
Yes. Had a new end piece 3d printed. Keltec wanted me to send my gun back and I didn’t want to. I’ve shot 150 rounds since the new piece and no issues.
I just bought a Sub 2000 Gen 3 this weekend, I haven't even fired it yet. I'm excited to get out there and try it out.
Nice. Have fun, be safe.
Best to avoid aluminum cases in Blowback guns. They do not expand like brass and steel and lack the structural strength so there is more likelihood the case will release from the chamber and hang un supported while pressure is still too high from firing that round and kaboom the Gun.
Guns with some sort of locking lug design are more likely to be OK with it because there is a mechanism there to keep the action closed until pressure is down.
Thanks for the information.
@@Scott67 have been watching several videos on the 2000,, I believe alum ammo has written on box not for carbines ???
Thanks for this review brother. I had a gen 1 and I loved it. Wish I never sold it.
Your welcome and thanks for watching. I almost bought a Gen 2 as KelTec been offering a 100 dollar rebate. Just before buying I saw the release of the Gen 3.
hy do you shoot this with the setup you have....????
its a backpack/truck gun
For now it's in a soft case in the trunk of vehicle. Summer will probably take it out and stick with my edc only.
How does red dot lose zero when opening and closing? It's attached to the barrel half, just the firing pin and breech face are on the rear half.
I zeroed day 1. Day 2 I was able to hit paper but was off bullseye by a few clicks. Day 3 was the same. My thought is there's the slightest bit of play somewhere in the locking system. Or maybe it's just how much pressure I hold on the gun.
Why does having to slam it open affect the zero and the recoil don’t? The reason I was asking I’m looking to buy one and would hate to have to zero it every time I opened it. Could it just be the red dot sight you’re using?
I think the issue is that there is the slightest bit of wiggle in the hinge' So unless you have it marked it's not going back to the exact same spot. My opinion is wasn't made to be a precision shooter. But it is good enough to stay on paper. Keep in mind also this could have been just the gun I was shooting.
I hope to see you out there, Okay Corral is my place to go! Maybe you can give me a couple pointers.
That would be cool. Give me a shout if you see me.
good review
what distace did you use to zero?
how much hold over did you have to use ? or how big a drop was it at verious yardage
thank yooou Sir
Zeroed at 25 yards with no holdover at 40. I also shot steel at 50 but don't remember if I had to make self adjustments.
Waiting for the other colors other than black, then getting one for tacticoolness.
I don't know why they did not do that out of the gate.
Yeah the manual on the g1 mentions not to use aluminum cases. Its designed for brass only. Im pretty sure it the same on g2 and the "g3".
The manual for the gen 3 only says - "The SUB2000 is a semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 9mm Luger cartridge". A friend of mine reached out to Kel tec on the Gen 2 a while back and there response was "Aluminum cased is not unsafe unless it's Plus p ammo. Only brass cased is recommended".
Nice video what was that magnification scope thing you had for your phone that’s a awesome idea. thanks
Thank you. "Scope phone adapter" came with the scope. Cool thing is you can zoom even more with your phone.
@@Scott67 what’s the name of the scope that’s cool
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Where can I find that compensator?
KAW VALLEY PRECISION 9MM XL LINEAR COMP
i have the sw fpc i love it i hope sw or keltec make a folding pcc in 10mm which ever one does is getting my money lol
I would like the FPC or Response from S&W. I think a best chance of seeing a 10 mm is going to come from S&W.
hell yeah@@Scott67
What brand and model of red dot sight were you using in the video?
Sightmark Core A-Spec Reflex Sight
@@Scott67 Thank you!
Pretty sure it says right on the website NOT to use aluminum cased ammo. Regardless it looks really fun to shoot. My question is how sore are your shoulders after shooting 200 rounds 😂
Also what if you just ran a laser on it in addition to a Red Dot?
Hi Sir. The manual only says - "The SUB2000 is a semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 9mm Luger cartridge. A friend of mine reached out to Kel tec on the Gen 2 a while back and there response was "Aluminum cased is not unsafe unless it's Plus p ammo. Only brass cased is recommended". Now to your questions. My shoulder was not sore at all. It does kick more than I like and you learn pretty quick how firmly to hold the gun. As far as sights, it depends on your needs. For home defense and fun at the range, a red dot and a laser is a great combo. For "bugging out" I would want a red dot and iron sights. Hope this helpful.
Thanks for the review sir, what is the suppressor you were using? Was there a mod to put it on?
Your welcome and thanks for watching. I was using the Sig Sauer SRD9 suppressor with a 1/2 x 28 piston and a fixed barrel washer. I simply just screwed it on.
Thank you for posting a review. How far off was the point of impact change when you fold and deploy the Sub2K?
Thanks for the view, Average 2, 3 inches at 25 yards.
@Scott67 I'm interested in a Gen 3, but that's more poi shift than I would be comfortable with.
@@lucashoward6120 I understand.
Mines right on the money every time.
Any one have any issues with the buffer pad getting squeezed inbetween the buffer tube and folding lock
Not here
Yes. Had a new end piece 3d printed. Keltec wanted me to send my gun back and I didn’t want to. I’ve shot 150 rounds since the new piece and no issues.
My cheek bruises every time I shoot this damn gun!
What kind of sights are you using?
@@Scott67 regular
@@active6302 Go with a red dot with a riser. It should fix that problem.
Does it have last round bolt hold open?? Please respond? Thanks
It does not.
In that case to me its worthless. thanks for responding
@@Scott67
How many 9mm ARs have this feature?
@@not-AI Only other one I know of is the Smith & Wesson M&P FPC
@@not-AI the Smith & Wesson one does my freedom ordnance does and from what I remember the ruger's do as well.
I think the gen 2 is way better
I haven't shot the Gen 2. Care to share why?
@@Scott67 I’ve seen videos of the gen 3’s cracking where it rotates, which I knew would be a problem…and where the magazine inserts
maybe set up your phone on the other side next time lol
The goal was for the viewer to see.
@@Scott67 thanks, I laughed every time a shell hit it!
@@dereckc9469 I never paid it any attention till you brought it up. Made me laugh as well.
A bipod on pcc is the most fudd thing I’ve seen in a long time
The goal is to show how good or bad the gun is with as little human error as possible.