3 Reasons to Always Use EXHAUST BRAKE!!!
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
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Giving you 3 reasons that you should use the exhaust brake on your diesel truck if you have the opportunity to!! I use mine personally in "Automatic Exhaust Brake" 24/7. Do you use yours? Let me know in the comments below!!
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Funny. I always use the exhaust brake and never had an issue with the turbo gunking up until the wife started driving it. Took it to the dealership for CEL and they told me I needed a new $9,000 turbo.. I was like ummm no thank you. I purchase a bottle of Wynn’s diesel turbo cleaner (purple bottle). Poured it into the tank and drove about 20 miles, cleared the CEL light as of this writing.
Get rid of that EGR abb a catch can. PS use 1" heater hose in and out no kinks
I’m curious what turbo is 9,000😂😂 I’ve had many many turbos from big to small and never paid anywhere near that🤦🏼♂️
@5.9street_tractor14 The one the stealership was trying to tell me I needed. I ordered one from BD and had a local shop install it. Just over $3.5K, for everything. Way less than the stealership.
@@jacksondaniels8169 that explains it lol I ran a 68mm hx52 on my old 2nd gen also ran multiple hx35s , an s362 , an s364 and an s472 and none of them were more than 1200 new or used I always installed them myself it’s so easy I wouldn’t feel right paying someone but 3500 sounds much better given you paid someone to install it and bought new I assume but 9k is a slap in the face and a kick in the nuts I’d wanna SLAP that dealership salesman if that was me jesus😂😂😂
@@Tonka_6.7Also remember the 16's have the VGT turbo which is substantially more expensive than a 2nd or 3rd gen turbo. My truck is registered in TX but I'm currently residing in San Diego, so I gotta play the game because of the emissions Nazi's. Unfortunately, I don't have the area to do the work myself nor does my HOA allow working on vehicles in the driveway. I had a very reputable diesel shop in Ramona, CA do the work
Good stuff! Thanks for all the info. Really helpful to know that it hits harder when tow haul mode is on. 🤙🏼
I drive a Ford F350 6.7 but I really appreciate your knowledge and advice. I’m always trying to learn more about my truck. Both yours and mine work about the same so thank you. Love the video.
Appreciate the support man, thank you!
Got a ‘18 6 speed. I use the full exhaust brake all the time and the service brakes are in mint condition. My friends make fun of me for using it all the time, but I really believe in the point you made about keeping the VGT clean and saving the service brakes.
That cold start is music to my ears.
Great video. I was just reading about this third mode of the exhaust brake (auto exhaust brake) in the owner's manual this morning on my new MY23 Ram Rebel HD Cummins and as you described, it's actually good for the turbo. I'll be using the auto exhaust brake from now on.
I run my exhaust brakes at all times. I have two Ram 3500 duallies and have had zero turbo issues and get fantastic brake life.
The exhaust brake sounds great and a cleaner turbo is even greater I’m using mine always
200K miles on my 14 with the exhaust brake on since day one. Original brakes too. Lots of towing in Idaho and coast to coast.
Solid vid ! Leaving my exhaust break on all the time starting tomorrow.
I agree.. something about that deep rumble👍
That is what I was thinking and am going to do, thanks
I have a 2022 Ram 5500 as a work truck hauling roll off bins, I run the auto exhaust brake all the time as well despite if I’m heavy or not. Only turning on tow/haul if I’m over 4500-5000lbs.
I just got a 3500 dually and I don't have any idea how to use. Thanks for the explanation.
My boss had a 2006 5 inch straight piped and he has 360k miles on the original turbo and the motor blew before the turbo did, his truck he pulled heavy with it all of the time, and he never had any problems, but these newer trucks I agree with you, that is the best bet
I’ve got 106k miles on my 2016 and I’m still on my OEM pads. I’ve used the exhaust brake for the entire time I’ve owned the truck. It’s getting relatively close to needing to change the pads (maybe another 10-15k). But I’ve been amazed at how amazingly my brakes have held up for this long. I’ve never gotten this kinda mileage out of any set of brakes ever, even including my stick vehicles. Pretty amazing for an 8,000lb truck!
And no doubt, it sounds so much better once the problematic parts fall off 😂. Like mentioned above, the only time I don’t use it is on slick downhills because it can be too aggressive at times. Another time I’ll consciously turn it off is when I park the truck and know I’ll be starting it when it’s real cold in the AM. I’ve noticed if you leave it on and start the truck, it’ll engage high-idle a bit sooner than I’d prefer, personally. But I do love the “jet engine” sound once it engages on those real cold starts too! 😂
Is that really a good thing though? I would think overtime that they potentially could just go bad and if you need them in a true emergency situation, they may not be up to par.
i've always used Exhaust braking / engine braking on my 05 F250 and my 19 F250, makes sense to me and i like the fact that i dont really have to touch the brake pedal ever unless im coming to a complete stop... probably reason why i have yet to need a new set of brakes on both so far. always moving..
I have a 2018 F-250. I would like to use them all the time too but when I activate the exhaust brake button the shifting changes. It takes longer to shift between gears or just stays on a high gear instead of shifting to a lower gear. The only way to make it shift to a higher gear while using the exhaust brake is to speed up. Don’t really like that.
Got a 2018 2500 Laramie with 64,000 miles 4 days ago. Watched this video, cruised around town in auto, and I swear the turbo feels more responsive. Leaving it on forever now.
Something I really like about the exhaust break as well:
Basically, when you hit the brakes, you're loading the front end as most the brake force is applied on the front. With an exhaust brake, it's applying the braking on the rear end. It just feels so much nicer to have the heavy rear end brake feel and not dive the front end. I know these trucks have a HD front end that is really stiff, but that rear brake feeling vs loading the front just feels so much nicer to me
And it stops faster in emergency brake situation once you become skilled at driving with it the performance of the suspension and braking in mountainous terrain takes the truck in to the next level of the trucks performance in control during a loaded pick up box drive and In winter with 4 HD studded winter snow tires aka : snowflake spec and. Using 4WD and the engine brake combined with throttle control driving technique severe ice/snow storm driving the vehicle can stop twice as fast and steering control is paramount . Like you said the rear brakes get to take a big load off the front end letting all 4 brakes to work at high efficiency and bring the truck to a stop more easily . My brakes/ rotors are lasting much longer due to the engine brake sharing the load and a lot of the time the foot pedal brake is not needed on highway driving.
@@ski6712 Totally. I really wish I could justify a new ram 2500/3500 as a cali commuter but my trusty lb7 will have to do. After taking a cummins on a road trip I knew there wasn't anything better :)
I've got a 2011, I've only got one setting, full on. I drive with it on pretty much all the time.
Keep it on always
Sounds sweet.
John, I'm a new RAM owner thank you for the information.
Thank you!
Thank you so very much
Reason 1 it sounds cool. That is all
Nice ride, brother. I’ve always used mine for the sake of exercising the vanes in my turbo. Got a Fleece Cheetah on my 2019 and it sounds epic now.
Yeah I wouldn’t mind a turbo upgrade here at some point!
I run my 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins with the exhaust break on all the time. My mechanic told me it keeps the turbo cleaner and working properly.
The purpose if the exhaust brake is to supplement the braking system and save brake wear. I run full brake for maintaining forward speed without Illuminating brake lights
The buttons aren't for trim levels, the auxiliary bank comes with the snow plow prep kit and is also possible to add separately. A Limited will have the little flippers if the truck isn't equipped with the auxiliary bank.
Right. I don't know where he got that from.
I think even scientists can’t deny that sounds good!
🤣🤣 true!
"Trust the science". LMAO
Your tire presdure warning is on too lol
Don’t now if you’ll remember me but I actually won the lasfit bulbs giveaway you had a few years ago. A bunch of stuff happened in life and I never got around to installing them and I found them in a drawer . Well I installed them about a week ago . Then on a whim I traded that truck for a 2024 2500 duramax . Googled “when to use the exhaust brake “ and it brought me back to your channel . Crazy how life works
Haha hey that’s awesome I appreciate the support once again!
I love that being deleted and tuned, I don’t have to turn the exhaust brake on every start up now
Same!!
Same here!
The sound is so great...
Agreed!
The turbine you speak of is actually the compressor wheel which is driven by the turbine that is on the exhaust side of the turbocharger. The exhaust gas is what spins the turbine and thus the compressor wheel or rotor.
I wish we had the option of a true valve/injector operated Jake brake over an exhaust brake.
Pacbrake use to make them and Thunder Brake it just sucks that they never caught on
5in back from the turbo dumping into a 7in exhaust tip... yeah I absolutely love it
I just naught a v6 ram classic but I want one of these 6.7 Cummins
The cruise control will also help when going down hill by automatically down shifting to keep the mph within 5 mph of what you have it set at.
On my 4th gen, the exhaust brake is inoperative when cruise is set...
@@BoostedVQUR if you EB isn’t slowing enough downhill use the cruise control to keep your MPH stable.
@@4truth69 The thing is... With the exhaust brake on (Full or auto) and cruise control set, the truck downshifts to control speed.- The exhaust brake does not even activate despite it being on. Turn cruise control off and the exhaust brake is enabled again.
@@BoostedVQUR so both will do the same thing. The wife’s 1500 Hemi we use CC for steep hills.
O yes sweet sound, and you seem like a cool dood.
Appreciate that!
Ugh I love that truck soud
Got the same wheels and truck ! But I just got some 24x12s minimal rub on 35s
I’m bumping up to 35s here in a week or so for winter wheel/tire setup 🤟🏼
IT is a necessary device for descents road
One reason not to use the exhaust break. Saw a video on a guy that has a fleet of Rams that were having issues with the exhaust particulate filter plugging. One of his driver did not use the exhaust brake all the time and had fewer issues with the particulate filter. Just saying.
Now he is towing a lot so that may be the difference (doing hot shot).
I'd love to hear a cold start with the high idle and exhaust brake on since you have it breathing healthy.
Check last weeks video! Have a good cold start with high idle !
@@JohnWargo93 just watched that one. Sounds amazing. I have a 21 that I plan on deleting as soon as the warranty runs out. You use ez lynk or efi?
@@dusten.johnson EZ Lynk
@@JohnWargo93 thanks man can't wait to see more content on the truck. Ready to start building mine.
For the first 50k miles on my 2019 3500, the EB worked great in both full and automatic (with and without tow/haul mode). Now I've noticed that it kicks on only about 90% of the time but not even close to how aggressive it was. Hauling my 5th wheel it used to slow me down all the way to a stop but now I might lose just a few mph. Dealership just said, oh we'll do a software update. No change. They say it does kick on which is true - but I've driven it for 50k miles hauling a 5th wheel, I'd know if it wasn't working the same anymore.
Is there any down shift when EB kicks in?
@@Jon-O. I have noticed that sometimes it does down shift but it does not always do that.
Actuator is getting weak
Get your “overhead” done. That means get your valves adjusted.
@@witkr904 that's a 150,000 miles service probably still within spec at 50,000
What company did you use for tuning?
Except in inclement weather! The exhaust break can cause the rear end to loose traction.
Yup… 1 thing I did forget to mention. With ice, snow, etc.
That’s more true if your hauling a trailer
Be a man! Hahaha
One reason to not use it all the time though, is that is wears down your rear tires faster. While yes it slows you down by slowing the engine, your drive train however is still trying to spin at whatever speed you are traveling at, which then turns the road into sandpaper for your tires. It's great for saving breaks yes but unfortunately it's a double edge sword where as you trading one for the other, and personally I'd rather spend $300 on a set of brakes then $1100 - $1400 on tires.
The tradesman’s have the push button as well if you have aux switches, they are the same as yours.
I gotcha… yeah we have a few 2021 Tradesman’s at work with just the levers but they do not have the additional auxiliary buttons. Good to know!
Yeah I have a Big Horn with levers. I think having aux outlets is what makes them have to put the push buttons.
Just picked up a 2022 duramax should I use it all the time on it ?
Not sure if you noticed but the Exhaust brake is a LOT more powerful when you put it on Full and you push the nice little Tow button beside it. At least I find the braking a lot more aggressive. I use the Tow/Full combo when I'm towing something heavy.
Yup, exhaust brake hits heavy in tow/haul
The higher rpm the better it slows down, just like in a manual for down shifting to a light,
@@JohnWargo93 I have my 2017 3500 at the dealership because the exhaust break is acting weird. They told me it was normal and to only use it when I’m hauling. When it’s in full exhaust break it only stays on till the truck down shifts and turns off. In tow haul it turns off and on, off and on…. I asked about the actuator and the potential damage to the turbo and they said they would call me back. That was almost 2 hours ago… 😑
@@elisag2055 yikes definitely sounds like some sort of issue!
Please do a video about how to make the exhaust brake stay on all the time on start up. I can’t figure it out
I have a older truck but the only way to do it was deleting the truck and having it programmed to be always on
I have a '22 RAM LIMITED LONGHORN, It has lever style switches not push buttons.
And I use my engine brake all the time!
I have a 2018 cummins 125k been doing this since I bought it new but turbo just went out a few days ago I have a fleece cheetah suppose to be here next week tho 😊
Good upgrade!
I need delete kit info !!!
Wow I’ve never used my EB!!! And I got 68000 miles on it. 😊
does all that back pressure cause seals to go out or cause stuff to wear out ? I really don't wanna break down so I'm askin questions I teach electrician so call yall teach me f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke
Good video very informative the only thing a little out of place is that you are 30 and you had 15 veh in the past so that means that you only use any veh in an avearage of two years that is a very little use to be thinking on brake replacement that doesn’t say smithing about your driving skills
I have a 2016 Cummins--and deleting it THEN was difficult. How are there still programs available to perform a delete on even newer trucks??
i just got my ram 1500 3 days ago and i noticed it likes to slow down faster than im use to when i let go of the gas....ill have to look and see if the exhaust break is on
Is this bad for the engine? Does it build up extra pressure inside and possibly cause gasket leaks?
And one good reason not to...because you've gotten rid of that OEM VGT garbage and upgraded your turbo. One of the best mods I've ever done on my 4th gen.
We have two Rams. A 2500 gen 4 deleted and tuned, and a 22 3500 dually. When you run the exhaust break on both trucks unless the trucks are also in tow haul mode, the exhaust break barely kicks in and isn’t even noticeable.
You have both deleted? Did you do your ‘22 yourself or pay? Curious the cost… Thank you
This has been beat into the ground. The turbo vanes are moving with or without exhaust brake.
How does it affect mpg ?
Just bought my first Cummings a 2020 Ram 2500. I was wandering what size pipes,muffler or not, and which tuner you are running? Thanks for this informational video.
5” turbo back straight pipe. No mufflers
Tunes through EZ link
Thanks for the information brother! I just got my first 3/4 ton Ram 2500 I was wondering if I should use the EB.. now I know it won't hurt anything this is great news I love using it. I have the S&B intake on it now, sounds good but I'd kill to have a better exhaust tone... Idk if I should delete like you did or just do a cat back or just don't touch it.. I live in NY (upstate, far from the city) Who knows if I'll get in trouble for modding the exhaust or not.. we don't have the sniffer up here.... yet.... Does deleting have any negative effects? (don't care about price, it's obviously expensive)
Only issue with deleting would be voiding your warranty if that matter to you or not… otherwise most guys will agree that it helps the truck out a lot. I very much love mine after the surgery. Would do it again 100x over 🤙🏼
Well we’ll we’ll… now I’ve got more questions after watching this than I had before watching it. This is what my 2014 f250 6.2 gasser dose every time I let off the gas or when going down a hill. Also down hill when it hits a certain speed/rpm the exhaust suddenly starts growling. Tow haul mode dosent seem to do a lot at times. The trucks used n I know it’s got a tune on it for sure but didn’t notice most of these things until I put some spintech mufflers on it. My 04 f250 5.4 gasser never did this and would coast for ever unlike my newer 14 f250. Any help???
I didn't think non-diesels had exhaust breaks. It uses the turbos.
My grandpa was a trucker and said its not good for the engine he only turned it on his semi when he went down steep and sketchy roads he uses it on his Cummins as well tho but only towing his camper
Semis have engine brake which is different to the exhaust brake, rams basically just close the exhaust making the engine to not blow as hard as if was open to slow it down, and the engine brake turns off the injectors
Engine breaks are not exhaust brakes.
I had the cp3 recall done and a computer update, now the exhaust brake feels none existent unless you shift down. Anyone else experience this???
Thanks for the info! Question for anyone with a 2011-2016 F250. My 2015 F250 doesn’t have an auto exhaust brake, only on or off. Is there any benefit to driving with it on full time? I wish I had an auto mode like the Ram.
Appreciate the support! I’m personally not a fan of driving with it on “full” all the time only because I enjoy coasting to stops and whatnot to save fuel. With it on “full” all the time it slows the truck down any time you let your foot off the throttle causing you to keep on throttle more than not burning more fuel.
What delete do u have?
New diesel owner here so thank you for the info. Will running the exhaust break on the automatic setting make the def fluid run empty at a faster rate?
Not that I’m aware of, no. The DEF fluid gets consumed under load of the engine, shouldn’t have anything to do with the exhaust brake. For example, when I would tow, it would consume DEF quicker than just driving around empty.
@JOHN WARGO I must have something going on then my def goes from full to empty in 10 days i guess I'll have to get it into the shop. I have a 2020 dodge ram 2500 maybe 10 days is normal lol thanks again for the info
@@BengalsGuy damn! After buying my truck brand new I put on 4K miles before I needed to fill up at all. I put 8k miles on my truck before deleting and only filled my tank 2x in my 8k miles.
Which setting is better to use with cruise control? I use cruise all the time and I speed up and slow down using the buttons on the steering wheel.
I do it as well. I honestly stay on “auto” 99% of my driving. Only time I’ll ever use “full” is when towing super super heavy
What tuner are you using on it . I have the same truck and live that EB sound . What mods did you do?
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Exhaust brake on the steering column, like a pull on one of the stalks, would be superior... I don't get why it's such a weird setup in pickups
How did you change the setting so when you turn it on the setting is the same as when you turned it off? I forget to turn it on sometimes. thanks!
It’s written in the tuning
I also live in PA. You had any issues with yearly inspections having a deleted truck ? Sometimes they do a visual
I’m an inspection mechanic so I’m lucky enough to do my own!
@@JohnWargo93 shhh ;)
Use mine since day one. I have a 2022 long horn 2500. I have 16,000 miles already and agree with all of your points. Not towing, I’m getting 21mpg and have not done the delete.
Question, does the delete void your warranty?
Yes it does void the manufacturer warranty
I assume however that anything not related to engine or power train should still be honored… guess we’ll see if anything ever happens 🤷🏻♀️
@@JohnWargo93 care to share how you did the delete? Did you do it yourself or find someone willing to do it?
And also, did you check your mpg before and after, and what were the results?
@@HardKnocks101 had a shop do it all 100%.. from sourcing parts to the entire job. Gained about 2mpg total both highway and daily driving. Nothing crazy, but the power gain is nice 👍
Never
I tried using full exhaust brake on for a couple of months and I noticed my mpg went down to 14-15. 2019 2500 leveled on 35s. Without using it at all I’m back to 17-18. I’ll try auto mode to see what happens.
Yup. It does affect your mpg’s.
18mpg is 12l/100km of DIESEL? OH SHIT in europe anything that uses more than 7l is considered a lot
I have a bone stock 22 3500 quadcab long bed 4x4 Laramie. 20-21 mpg not towing, and 19-20 driving more aggressively if I'm late. I see all these sub 20 mpg claims online. Why are they so low?
Bro has his exhaust heater going (seat heater) 🤣
What did you do to turn on the exhaust break everytime your truck turns on?
It’s a code written in the tuning!
Did you take the foam off the baffle on your ram? Seems like everyone removes it
Ironically the 5th gens don’t have the foam around it. I made a video on that a few months back.
I use the exhaust brakes ALWAYS and it didn’t protect the turbo actuator from failing at 72,000 miles. Cummins 6.7
So..... just curious, If i was towing a heavy haul and the trailer has electric brakes.... the use of the exhaust brake to slow down the vehicle seems kinda dangerous especially down hill, nothing assisting the truck on the trailer end. Ive experienced slips or free wheel spin over a bridge pulling a trailer the same can be said for slowing down
Probably depends on weather and road conditions. I’d be more cautious with wet roads, but anything dry I use engine break when towing 100%. Going up and down the Smokey Mountains I never have to touch my break pedal at all. I generally let the engine break slow me and my load down but I do see your point, it’s valid.
What exhaust is this picking my 2022 up Monday and want to get exhaust done asap
5” turbo back. JAMO
I have a used 2010 Ram 2500. I liked using the exhaust break when towing my horse trailer, but I was getting a message stating my exhaust system needed maintenance. Doesn’t happen if I don’t use the exhaust break. Made me nervous so I stopped using it. Should I take my truck in the be looked at?
No just ignore it and hope it magically disappears
I use my engine brake all the time on mountain highway driving with full load in the pickup box and have not had any message problems I have a 2019 ram 3500 4Wd 8 ft box quad cab.
So what mod do I use or what do I do to get the memory set exhaust brake?
It’s written in my tune
How do you feel about using exhaust brake on snow covered roads?
And fuel economy with exhaust brake?
You send it my guy
So I haven’t experienced it yet… but my thought is that if it’s snowy or icy, the back wheels will probably slide a lot of you keep engine brake on. Time will tell, I’ll be testing it out and whatnot. As far as fuel economy goes? Haven’t really noticed any significant differences.
How do you make it always stay in automatic mode? Sucks thatbi have to turn it on everything
It’s written in my tuning
Lmfao. Great idea.
PSA I want my truck deleted but im. not sure how to do so. I know there are guys out there that can help me I will drive to you no problem I just don't know what im doing and I don't want to tear anything up. I have a 5th gen ram 3500 dually.
Full brake for towing, stop and go and bumper to bumper traffic...auto for everything else.
Agreed
check that tire pressure 😂
Lol it’s fine. Wheels don’t have TPMS sensors in them 😆
Wish I could find somebody I trust who could tune and delete my 2014 Ram
Hey there
I have a 2019 ram 2500 bighorn mega cab
Everything stock except S&B air filter & banks Pedal monster I wanted to delete the truck just wondering what kind of fuel mileage you get now my truck gets city 14-15 highway 16-18 depending on my driving can’t get any better then 18
I get 17 daily driving on my eco tune and roughly 20-21 highway on long trips ✌🏼
@@JohnWargo93
Thats great with the price of fuel. $5.35 gal thanks to sleepy joe I just ordered the S&B fuel tank it replaces the stock with a 51 gal should give a range close to 1000 miles every fill up
@@solofett7222 yup it’s crazy. I used to fill up with Trump at like $70. Now it’s $130 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@JohnWargo93
Same here I own a landscape company with all the trucks and kubota diesel mowers going all day I’m up at least 1500 -2k more a week maybe more
I can't watch this until you check the tire pressure!!! 🙂
🤣 aftermarket wheels don’t have sensors in them
21 tradesman has a button
I've always said, braking is a result of poor planning. (within reason of course)
Yes 🙌🏼 I generally look far enough ahead and let the truck slow itself down if I see a stoplight or whatnot.