Modern Design for a Shower Pan
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What pan was that? Does it still need cement under or will go on plywood?
@@djony10 you need a 1/4 x 1/4 notch trowel tinset layer underneath the foam pan
I’m an tile and I’ve learned from this guy . He is really good . Thank you Landberg
I like the look of the LFT tile on the shower pan. And I like the way you did the layout to keep your slope consistent.
It's a great idea and not all that difficult to pull off! It definitely takes more time though..
What a way to wake up and have a video from Landberg!!!! I work nights, do it's now 12:45p. Eastern and getting a bit of a late start, but man oh man a great way to start the day!!! Great video as always, the lines are stupid dope clean, and Dirty Jersey out!!!!
Answered every single question I had in one simple video. Thanks!
Thanks for taking your time to detail this. We appreciate 🙏
Thanks for sharing great video concise and to the point I was always intimidated about installing large format tile in the shower pan thanks for the tips
Looks nice and sleek. I would not have expected this to work, because that inner circle of wedges I would think would be trying to keep all those tiles up and level instead of maintaining that slop down to the drain. Lately I've been using river rock shower pan floors which mold to the slope perfectly, and many people like the look, but they do have a lot of grout. I use a grout maximizer sealer to mix the grout instead of water, adds $20 tot he cost, but worth it.
That was demonstrated so excellently,and was so easy to do my shower floor following your 12 by 24 tile install thanks heaps,subscribed.
That looks amazing!
Awesome video brother, I just learned a new trick! Awesome!
Thank you for your time and effort for this video. 🙏 I am literally just going to be doing my first WEDI pre sloped curbless shower pan and walls. I wasn't sure of how to figure out my tile pattern with the same large format tile you used. I've done plenty of tile just never this. You helped me out CONSIDERABLY in making this video. You have no idea the weight lifted off me because of it. The lord works in mysterious ways as I've been worrying about this. God bless you and a new subscriber now. I'm excited to see how many other of your videos are going to be beneficial and helpful. I am a sponge when it comes to knowledge. I've been in the trades for over 40 years and I'm still learning every day due to guys like you. Thank you brother 🙏
Thanks Jim for the kind comment!
Simply awesome!
I new to this videos and they are addicted to me good job
Another great video 👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Awesome job
Very nice video! Thanks
Outstanding work and ideas as usual! So exciting to see your videos pop up on my home screen when I relax from a hard day of setting tile! #tilelife
Thanks brother, so exciting to see nice comments like this when I relax from a hard day also! Thanks for the watch and comment 👊👊👊
In Ireland we call this enveloping. Ive done loads of these this way without any issues. Mostly in disabled shower areas.
Yea it’s great to do it that way. We do it in restaurants. Because it’s a great way to so call bend tile..great video your the man🤛
thank you as always sir!
Great video sir. Will definitely be keeping this as an option on future jobs. Thanks for sharing
Thank you sir for the watch, view and kind comment ! 👊
Dude bad ass technic ,thanks that was super cool..
SOLID DEMO BRADDAH🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
If only we could walk around the shower pan at waist level on the site. Great demo, will add it to my "toolbag" along with the wealth of info you've already shared.
Right!? would save our knee's lol. Thanks for the watch and comment 👊
In NZ we have only ever laid large format tiles in shower floors, nice video but with the clips you don’t need to put them on the angle cuts because they are supposed to be on different planes and not flat
Your bad ass bro will be buying your shirts soon 👍🏼
I always enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks brother, will do!👊
Landberg, I don't understand why you spend so much time, effort and money to do these mockups, but I don't have to. All I can say is thank you and I had never seen this before and it is fantastic work. Keep it up my friend and I hope the subscribers follow your effort! You and Sal are the best tile guys on here, no doubt.
It's simply a fun hobby for me! I like the film/editing part of it all, plus I get to play with tools all day! Just a kid in a candy store. Thanks for the watch and kind comment 👊
I for one super appreciate the service! A lot of great info
@@LandbergTileTV And I can imagine its better to experiment doing this at waste-level outside.
Thanks for this video 👍
thanks for the watch 👊
You have great attention to detail 👌
thank you
ty man
A master at his game!
Very Goode job .
Muy interesante. Y muy professional.👍
Great original video my friend, thank you. I would appreciate any of your inputs if you ever get the time to reply:
in a real life scenario, would you pre-cut all your tiles and fit them with spacers to fill the pan and then use a chalk line to pull your corners and then take the tiles out and recreate yourself the same pattern on a flat floor to mark them with a straight edge and sharpy ready to cut? Is there a chance the diagonal cuts will look thinner since you are somewhat raising the opposing sides of the tiles on one side or you alculate that and cut straight in the middle of the sharpy line? Would you recommend the same technique weather you are using a Schluter pan and Schluter drain vs dry packed pan and drain cap that can be adjusted with a little offset all around? Is this technique different whether the wall tiles go first or after? Some time the slope is bigger than ¼ per foot, is there anything I should watch for when that happens? A 16th difference on a grout line on a high end job sometime created problems for me if you can believe that and for some stupid reason that I can’t still understand I always get the jobs with the high contrast grout, never fails; and when there is so much contrast between the tiles and grout, all grout lines have to be bang-on. Should I just consider that I will need to shave the tiles in my price or this technique is pretty much idiot proof? Thanks.
You're a pro man👌🏻
thank yo sir 👊 thanks for the watch and comment
Great idea
Thank you! 😊
This is EXACTLY what I like & looks unique! Very cleanly done
Awesome video. I am about to redo my bathroom with a schluter pan and am making it curbless. Would love to use this method. Can you give an honest assessment of the difficulty of this method for someone who’s never really done tile work before?
Nice Work! greatings from Germany.
Thank you very much!
Watch this, and save yourself a ton of work. I wish I watched this before I started to make life difficult for myself. Much regret can be avoided by listening to this pro. I would not hesitate to subscribe.
Thank you sir!
I love this guy glad I got cross your channel subbed here
Thanks, appreciate that!
Great idea! I am doing a large shower right now, and one problem is that there is a limited selection of mosaic for the shower pan, and most of it is $6 to $12 a foot. I am going to do it this way next time so I will have any tile to pick from instead the hassle of trying to match a mosaic to the wall tile.
Not to mention it looks fantastic! You are a farking genius!
Using a pre-fabricated board with a linear drain (like for instance Wedi) would save so much time.
Muito bom👊Very good👊💯
i like it
Great video! As all are! I am going to try this on my next shower. Curious: why did you offset the tiles 50%?
nice
Wow bro. You’re the nerdy guy that could be been an engineer or something stereotypically of a creative and intelligent individual. To see those characteristics put to use in a construction scenario is so cool. I’m sure it’s a very desired since it’s so unique. 🤘🏻👍🏻
Thanks Chris, appreciate the comment 👊
Can you do a video on when and why you use a manual and a wet saw? Seems like the wet saw is only needed miters almost.
What state do you offer your services?
Can you or how do you compensate your dry fitting for the loss of material during cutting, especially if you want 1/8" grout line?
How thick is the tile saw blade?
Thanks for your demostration. anywhere we can make donations help this channel out.
Super fantasy!!!!!
Nice countertop with a drain
What a nice tutorial! We have a bit different floor waste "Bermuda" It should be installed before tiling and tiles must be laid around it. Can you tell me, whether any gap must be maintained in between the square waste and tiles around it (like a grout), or no gap around the grate? Which level difference must be in between the grate edge and the adjacent tiles? 0.5, 1 or 2 mm? And the last- how to finish this gap around square waste- the same like grout (epoxy)mix, silicone or leave it as it is with some tile adhesive inside? Thank you.
Sick video I'm going to start doing this
This Is a great video...one of the best ive seen...i do have a Quick question ...wouldn't the clips want to bring the tiles back to level when installed?
Thank you sir, I appreciate the kind words. With these types of cuts (corner of drain to corner of pan) allows the tiles to sit flat with proper pitch towards the drain.
Clip do not level tiles they only make them flush
If you have 3mm grout lines when you cut your tile do you have to cut 3mm out so it stays the same size so the lines still match?
If so is there a 3mm blade you use or do you do 2 cuts?
Nice work and nice tools,I think I have every tool that was shown.i never did large format on tile floor but wouldn't the layout look better if 4 full tiles went from center drain.then possibly the 50 percent offset on your rips.im just a big layout and center everything nazi
Look great!! Is delwat saw is one of you favorite.?
Thanks! and yes, one of our favorite saws.
Nice job, I love the look of this. One question... does using LFT on the floor make the surface slippery?
Not if it's a matte finish
I wish Usg still offered this shower system
How did you get it to slope? You add more mud to the exterior of the area vs the center?
Excellent demonstration.
Great look! Can you use other types of tiles or just porcelain?
Yes you can, but porcelain is so durable compared to ceramic and stone. It will stay looking new much longer.
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Would that have to be slip resistant tile?
My drain is a 1/4” of f both directions. Do you think that would be ok for this application? The shower is roughly 39”x84”
Thanks for posting this great video. Question: Would it be better by not using tile leveling wedges along the diagonal cuts from the corners? This is the transition line from one facet to the next and is not designed to be level across the transition line. By using leveling wedges, and forcing a level surface across the transition seems like it would interfere with drainage. Thanks again, I plan on using this format in my DIY.
This system should be called an anti lippage system, it does not level the tiles. We use clips and wedges with all of our large format shower pan tiles with success.
What of the drain is a circle?
I did s bathroom for an architect 19 years ago he asked if we could 12x24s in a shower pan and drew up a similar pattern it forced to buy a better tile saw so i could cut it
Great video and better idea! Off subject but do you know of any other brand of wedges that work with the level master clips?
don't know anything about level master clips...
John Rodriguez, I believe that Rigid has a different take on the wedges. They use a screw down system, with 1” plastic retaining screws. I saw a CZcams video on it.
I have two review video's on Ridgid level max. Yes, they are a spindle system vs. a wedge system.
Great videos always...are you sure this is not a video to show how to install a pre-fabricated, pre-sloped shower pan? 😂 cheers from Windsor Canada!
lol, you know how it is...have to be super clear or I'll trigger some folks! Thanks for the watch
it s the best demonstration and tutorial!!! However, I was a bit surprised seeing tile levelling system... I was sure, all the tile levelling clips and wedges kits are designed to maintain a flat tile surface only. It seems to me, these clips would tend to straighten tiles as much as they can, which is against of what we need. May be you can share your technique? Probably you were tightened them not too much, or, were using any special (slope designed) version of levelling kit? Also... The first (dry try) can`t be precisely correct, because you use wet cuts. The disk thickness is at least 5-6mm. So, in fact, you have all the pattern "shrinkage", or, you had to compensate this by grouts size. Is there any way to do split cuts by dry cutter to avoid such results, or, wet saw is the best solution? Thank you
Great demo. I'm pretty sure it will be a lot harder than how you make it look here. lol.
You can do it!
Hi thanks I've been looking for this tutorial video. Btw great music choice 👍.
If the drain was offset say 10" towards one corner, would you still draw the lines from drain to corner and cut accordingly?
Yes, but you could adjust depending on whether or not you have small cuts.
@@LandbergTileTV thanks, and what grit diamond pad did you use to bevel the edges on those tiles?
@@moisty254 60 grit pads 👍
@@LandbergTileTV thanks dude I'm literally about to commence this cut style tomorrow 👍
A wee tip for your dewalt. Stick your pump in a bucket of clean water beside your saw & it will last years instead or circulating dirty water through it.
Thanks for the video! Curious why you laid it out with two rows in the center and half tiles on the sides? Wouldn't three full rows fit?
We typically install 12 X 24 tile at a 50% offset on the walls (brick pattern).
So, we follow that pattern on the floor...
@@LandbergTileTV That makes sense, but why the two rows (lengthwise) bordered by cuts, as opposed to three courses of full tiles? Just wondering if it was intentional?
Awesome demo! Have you tried this on offset drain? (like the Kerdi 38in. x 60in. offset shower pan) Would the concept be the same still (lines to all corners) since the drain is only 10 inches on center from the plumbing wall?
Yes, I did it here in this video: czcams.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/video.html
@@LandbergTileTV Thanks man you're the best! Hope to see you do more with this concept of large tiles in the shower... the rest of the world this is big, love this style
great video. I have watched tons of tile video. I don't know if there is another video like this on youtube.
I am doing a wedi single slope to slot drain at one end. The wall side is no problem but the other side meets the floor of the bathroom. It will go from 2 3/4 to nothing. Interestingly wedi sells a metal trim piece for this in europe but not in the states. I asked them why and they said everyone uses curbs in US. Not me.
Question is can a tile be cut on an angle to say 1/16th. It is porcelain tile and looks like the exact tile you have in your video. I can make a metal trim piece but want to keep my options open. Thanks for any help. Subscribed!
Yes, you can taper each tile to meet the pan tile flush. I hope this answered your question.
@@LandbergTileTV Great Thanks
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does that corner to corner cutting style work for 24x24 also?
yes!
Hello. I’m looking to buy a tile saw and was wondering how you like that DEWALT or if you have any other saw you would recommend. I’m looking to stay under $1000. Thanks.
You can get the Dewalt for around $700 at contractors direct dot com. I would definitely recommend the Dewalt, best saw on the market for the money. 👊
Can you guys do a review on the Kobalt 10” wet saw?
Interesting you ask, I have it ready to launch tomorrow morning!
Your channel has helped me so much during my apprenticeship tile setting can’t wait love you guys
@@LandbergTileTV sweet dude
Can you do that with circular drains as well?
Yes sir! but square looks better with this method
Can you still apply this technique to a shower with an offset drain or a shower with an odd shape
Yes you can, here is my video on that: czcams.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/video.html
Can you please give some demo on how to do this kind of cuts for off-center drain, when you convert tub into standing shower.
I wish I can upload a hand-drawn picture to show that. Do you have any video on that?
Here is one video for you: czcams.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/video.html
@@LandbergTileTV Thanks
Did you use 1/4” trowel? Should it not be 1/2” for these large tiles? Great video though thanks for this!
I used whatever trowel I had laying around. Yes, you should use a 1/2 on all large format. 👊
With large format tile and the ramondi leveling system do you think a quarter inch square notch trowel is sufficient or do you prefer half inch?
I used 1/4 x 1/4 for this demo. It's also necessary to backbutter each tile. Half inch is too much mortar for sure...👊
@@LandbergTileTV thanks for the feedback. That probably why I had such a mess with mortar since I was using a 1/2" sq notch trowel.
My base is rectangular (on Slab) and I'm not sure how to do this with the old bathtub shape that I removed. It's a walk in shower from the far end of the drain. Any advice please... I've done the dry pack and membrane.
linear drain would work
Is this possible in any shower floor like 36 X 36? Thank you!
Yes it is!
Great idea but...Nice work but you missed one tile to cut . Should be the same pattern or not? Thanks.
Negative, this is a 50% offset layout. This is how it should look. You can always install a straight pattern if you like also.
This isn't a new idea. In 96 i learn tiler in Germany and we also put the tile in the shower on this way. You make a good job but not perfect. Your grout tile was not 100%. Sry
Love for you to be my handyman :)
What would one charge per SF to install a floor like this?
This wouldn't be charged as per square foot, but per job. This method takes about 2-4 extra hours of labor. I would charge an extra $500 on top of the standard install labor price.
So how would u do this using a kerdi pan w a linear drain postponed toward the showerhead wall??
I can't find anyone in this area who does any modern tile. Couldn't find anyone to install my custom shower spa with jets either...
Yes, single slope offset Schluter pan, linear drain and Matte finish large format tile is a good option. Sorry about your circumstance with finding installers...
@@LandbergTileTV Thank u Landberg for ur feedback, highly appreciated!
My crowded 1943 72"W x 81" L bathroom is getting gutted. Removing the small window adding 60" awning window in shower. The 4x9 white subway will completely cover left wall, window wall, & 30" showerhead (right) wall. Right side will have floating counter & wall mount toilet.
The floor will be 12x24 dark grey matte porcelain tile which. With that design getting the time spot on extremely important. I wanted to go larger tile but thought such small rm 6 tile across & 8 length b good.
When I'm done I'll shoot u some pictures so u can c if I was a good student ;}
Great video, but I don't understand something. You cut tiles to get an angle between them and then use clips and wedges to level it. How did you manage to keep slope?
When you cut the four angles and install on the pre-sloped pan, the slope simply comes natural.
clips don't level the tiles they just bring the edges together. Tile leveling system is a misnomer. That is why Sal DiBlasi did a whole video on the importance of having the floor flat/level and not relying on the clips for that.
THNX
When you snap the clips the lower part is still between the tiles, so when you grout them the grout is only going to go slightly over the top of remaining clip, surly this must compromise how waterproof the joint is by not achieving full depth of grout. Which will be OK in walkways but will be a problem in areas that are often flooded such as shower trays.
You MUST keep in mind. Grout and tile is NOT waterproof. The shower pan must be waterproofed prior to tile and grout.
@@LandbergTileTV how will the water escape if it enters through the grout as the top of outlet if flush with the top tile. With this in mind using a one piece grp shower tray can only be the fail safe way.
@@johnbonner258 You have no idea how shower waterproofing works lol.
@@darrenr1194 do tell then
you can use the lineal drain in a center shower pan 2
That is true! thanks for the tip 👊
Landberg Tile DIY TV let's look out for the installer. but good video. will use it
@@wayneanderson5127 thank you sir, appreciate it
Landberg Tile DIY TV we appreciate you understanding.
USG system without the USG drain?
Disregard that. I didn't get far enough in before commenting. Looks great!
i want a tile life tshirt were do i get bro
I'll have them linked to my videos next week! 4 different designs 👊
@@LandbergTileTV thanks bro!!!!
Now if my tile layers weren't so lazy to do this.
Not about lazy. About experience and knowledge to do this work. 75% of tile guys aren't master tilers, they do square and rectangle tile and mesh grid for slopes.
Lazy or you don’t want to pay what it cost to do the work 💀💀🤦🏻♂️😅