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Greg and Blessing tackle more big Xbox news: Xbox plans more cuts, Xbox is still figuring out Call of Duty and Game Pass, AND could Hellblade 2 come to PlayStation?
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I legit think Matt Booty didn’t know that Tango developed Hi-Fi Rush. He pointed at a spreadsheet and was like “Fire this team. Their name sounds like a fruit factory.”
What's funny is that his last name is literally Booty.
The fact that this is a possibility is a sickening nightmare 💀
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“Peanut butter on bread” is a wild comment after closing 4 studios you bought
If you don’t have enough peanut butter, you put more on, you don’t cut the bread
People seem to be ignoring that this comment is from the head of Zenimax, not xbox.
Free to criticize how they were handled/supported after being purchased, but phrasing like this is disingenuous.
The worst thing is it supposed to be thin. Booty is an idiot.
Matt Booty is saying studios are hollowed out, and restructuring will beef up the other studios.
@@startraffick You still believe this clown?
What are the odds in a few years Microsoft announces a Hi-Fi rush sequel they gave to some other dev team under them, angering everyone
Wouldnt shock me thats the toys 4 bob project
0. They'd be spending more resources pivoting another studio to make a sequel to a game that isn't Call of Duty. Because let's be real here. Activision is gonna Activision no matter where it is. It's like Walmart. Soon as a Walmart opens somewhere, all the other small businesses close down around it. That's what's happening here.
0 percent, lol. They just let the studio go. Why would you use anyone else to create the award-winning title. By the way, when have you seen Xbox release a game that didn't take many years without multiple delays.
HFR ain't returning. Bethesda will be nothing but a Fallout / Elder Scrolls studio in the coming years. Despite what Booty says about wanting smaller well received games he also said they will focus on high impact games, and Bethesda has two of those: Elder Scrolls and Fallout (especially so after the TV series). Everything else under Bethesda, even id, will be subject to scrutiny and asked if they're needed. The studios under Bethesda that aren't shuttered will probably be turned into support studios for BGS so Elder Scroll and Fallout entries can be released more quickly.
HiFi Rush should be a Netflix Cartoon show rather than a game.
What's so bizarre about the xbox closures is xbox has no games. A majority of their studios have released nothing of note. The studios getting closed have actually put out content
That's the worst part. All these studio acquisitions and hype and that's all it ever was. Hype. Save Starfield, nothing noteworthy has come out of the biggest publisher in gaming. Gamepass has been around for 5 years and we got 1 killer app. ONE.
Despite the hate infinite is a great game single and multi-player granted it took a bit...forza and few other noteworthy titles have came. They just shit the bed on such a high level they stay one step forward and 2 back
But let's be completely honest here, even in the field of video games, who's really frothing at the mouth for the moreForza?
@derekjaramillo5601 you would think that for madden and call of duty and 2k at this point aswell. But that market is there. I play Sony and main my xbox but naughty dog layoffs and insomniacs spiderman 2 being as good as it was and selling well still barley made a profit. The whole industry is bound up right now. And Sony isn't even putting out first party games this year.
@@derekjaramillo5601 Forza Horizon have over 40 million players. It is a successful game and very popular.
Sorry to have to say it but....Colin was right about Phil Spencer and how the media bought into him. Colin is a little aggressive about Gamepass but with the recent news how could you not see that its not working out. It's the "best value in gaming" as Tim loves to say but as it is now, is it really good for the future of the Xbox/industry?
Colin gets way too much unnecessary hate with his takes but he has always been right. Dude knows his shit.
Do we really need "the best value in gaming" if it leads to studio closures and less games for all in the end? Gamepass is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It might be "good value" by saving customers money, but Studios because of it get less money, so there's less profit from them which leads to more studio closures and less games.
I always thought Gamepass is horrible for the industry. Luckily it seems to be failing, it would be much worse if it was successful. Buy your games
@@AndrewB2189 100% Gamepass has made people in that ecosystem used to not buying games. I feel journalists/influencers should have questioned the service more not championing it as well as not getting in bed with Microsoft/ Phil Spencer holding him more accountable.
@@OldGodsOfKratos He can be arrogant and always has the need to be proven right....but I cant disagree that he's knowledgeable, speaks his opinion and is lot more genuine then most people in the space.
Booty has to go. Preferably Greenberg too. Bad decisions, worse messaging
“Most users not knowing that this is happening” seems like a symptom of Microsoft’s biggest problem
If Toys For Bob didn’t get their freedom do you think MS would’ve shut them down too?
Yes, they cut their chains just in time to avoid the culling.
Toys for Bob ask to be freed from COD, and Microsoft allowed it, and signed a contract with them because they think the studio is very good.
@@startraffick they also thought tango was good and signed them on. They made MS an objectively good game to critical acclaim and according to them commercial too.
Yet they gave them the boot and then after shutting them down they go and say they want more games like the one they got from tango.
Make it make sense!
@@aeolussvichi7680 they didn't sign a contract with Tango. HiFi Rush started development in 2017 under publisher Zenimax.
Hard to support 9 studios? A trillion dollar company?
It's BS.
Yall remember when phil was on x cast and said it doesnt matter if we make 11 out of 10 games its just not gonna change anything.
All the Xbox talk, especially about the horrors of consolidation, are spot on. I really, really wish you guys would have been sounding the alarm on this back when it was happening, rather than now.
I feel like Capcom’s success is at least partially because of every other publisher chasing trends/growth, which Capcom was too for a while before pivoting to providing what they know is best for their audience. The 7 years lines up to when their games went from chasing to providing. If any other major 3rd party publisher mimicked Capcom’s current approach, something tells me they wouldn’t be as successful with the competition. Outside of Sony games, it feels likes Capcom are the only ones making AAA games without compromising their integrity and consumer satisfaction, everyone else is aggressively going after your time and money.
The 70 billion purchase isn't something that happened to XBox, they chose to use 70B from MS to buy ABK. If Phil couldn't tell that taking the 70B will come with the consequence of MS wanting bigger returns and what that would look like, he's callous, incompetent and negligent and he, not the devs, should be paying the price by falling on his sword
Lmao, I had no idea that Hellblade 2 was coming out so soon
don't worry, they blew half the marketing budget sending influencers to Iceland to take pics of a beach for their insta followers lmaoo
Xbox probably has forgotten too. If they can have it fail they can make the studio some big write-off I bet.
I’ve lost total faith in Phil and the bosses at Xbox.
After having an active account since day 1 of the service, I cancelled my gamepass sub the moment I read about the layoffs. I refuse to give my money to a $3 trillion company when they treat their workers like this. American anti-trust law is a complete and utter joke.
"Phil Spencer has no power and can't affect anything as HEAD OF XBOX" isn't the good defense of Phil Spencer Bless and Greg seems to think it is.
It’s inconceivable to me that they still shield this man from responsibility of the state of Xbox.
the first CEO in history to have no power to change or affect anything they're in charge of. if that's the case, why is he even paid (a huge amount of money) to be there?
@@NF_ReduxA figurehead, that's why. It's perfect for Microsoft too, if all goes well then they claim success and reap the rewards. If there's problems he takes the blame and they remain safety anonymous.
But at the end of the day he's a puppet, he's in control as long as Big Daddy Microsoft says it's okay.
The guy literally only reports to one guy (MS CEO). To even suggest that this is out of Spencer's hands is ridiculous. Nadella isn't running the day to day of Xbox. That's Spencer's actual job. Nadella didn't pitch to spend $100b on acquisitions, thus casting a keener eye onto Xbox. Spencer pitched that, convincing Nadella the promised land with Game Pass and acquisitions. Everything happening now is because Spencer was convinced Game Pass, or the "Netflix of gaming" was a sure thing. Despite the fact at the time many execs around him weren't convinced and despite the fact the reason Netflix can release so much content is because the average time to write, shoot, produce a show is 6-12 months. The average time to make a game is now 4 years (more if its new IP). But Spencer convinced Nadella on it. This is all on Spencer. You can't give him credit when shit works out yet absolve him when shit hits the fan.
That means he sucks and someone needs to do his job.
Blessing asked if they raise the price of GamePass to $25-$30 per month, but include Call of Duty every year, will people accept that?
I will not. I have not purchased one of those rushed money grub cod games in YEARS. Not to mention, at that point, the hardcore call of duty players would literally be better off buying the game on it's own than a $360/year subscription to gamepass.
Microsoft makes billions a year. COD makes hundreds of millions a year. Microsoft can afford to keep their promises to their customers.
Sad news but such a good episode, especially with Barrett at the end blaring smoke and wooing
I'm i the only one that's getting pure enjoyment from the intro 😂😂😂
That intro was rrrooooouuuugh
You can't just say a name like "Matt Booty" and be so casual about it. For about half the video, I thought you guys were doing a bit
With KFGD taking on a the new intro style. I feel like KFGD needs new intro music.
greg if you ever stop doing games daily, you owe us having an ai of your voice doing the intro every damn day
Roper report 9:55
I said it day one xbox acted like draco malfoy he could not play with the big boys and just bought his way in.
Yeah so much Draco “My father will hear about this Jim Ryan !” energy then he asks Daddy Satya to buy him a $70B pony to make him feel better
You don’t need public facing execs to feel like your building things with their company, the products/services from Sony/Nintendo already prove they are to anyone honestly consuming them, the PS5 experience for example would be extremely different as a whole if it wasn’t built with the audience and their feedback in mind, there’s no point in giving them shit for staying out of the spotlight since as we now see, it turned out to be smart/strategic. Everyone from the big 3 used to be very public facing, Nintendo pulled out first during the Wii U struggling, pulling out of E3 shows and only doing pre-recorded Directs, leading to the Switch’s success. Sony learned and followed suit.
Hellblade Shouldve Been Playstation Exclusive.
The first one was, that's why it did so well.
Scotland is one of 4 countries that form the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Nothern Ireland.
How hard would it be to spin studios off and make them 2nd party rather than closing them?
The proper title when addressing him. "Little Jason Shreier"
RIP Jerry The King 😢
Matt, Phil and Sara need to ALL go.
The only thing stopping me from trading in my Series X right now is my Elden Ring save
They should make Killer Instinct for PS4/5
They felt understaffed!??
Didn’t they let go 2k people from their gaming devision?
wtf kind of excuse is that after letting 2k go not even 6monts ago
Man, I just have to shout out Tim, my observation is that he is a master at finding advertisement opportunities for the KFG team and also shoots the adverts like a pro. I really love you guys (all 11) ❤ Keep it up 👏
I think somewhere along the line, the people in charge over at Xbox misunderstood how people (and math) works.
They wanted to buy Bethesda and Activision and assumed that all (or most, or many) of the existing customers for all of those popular games (Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty etc.) would simply go "huh, I guess I need to buy an Xbox and subscribe to Game Pass/Live now to play my games" but that's not how the gaming community works.
Instead people just kind of went "huh, that's stupid, I guess I won't buy those games" which lead to a huge loss of Playstation customers who would have otherwise bought, for example, Starfield. So Microsoft/Xbox bought a profitable publisher, made them exclusive which artificially downsized their audience, in hopes of growing their platform. Uh. Wait. What.
So from what I heard this is coming from them buying Activision Blizzard and are trying desperately to make up for the loss of money of it and the game pass is not making them as much money as they hoped to pay it off so closing studio and reducing cost of making games is one of the ways that they think will save them. If you ask me where I saw this I saw on Twitter and don’t ask me where I don’t remember if you have more solid leads to why please share with me I would like to know why.
Microsoft just posted profits of 160 billion for 2023. I think they'll be alright.
*QUICK* SOMEONE PULL *MATT BOOTY* OUTTA THAT *MOUNTAIN OF COKE* HE'S INHALING BEFORE HE CRATERS THE LAST SHRED OF CREDIBILITY THE *XBOX* BRAND STILL HAS LEFT! 😂😂🙃🤧🤧🤡
Blessing really just be saying anything huh
I imagine 10 years of L's counts up to a lot of red on Microsoft's balance sheet. They probably told Phil and related management to figure it tf out or get out and here we are now. The bill always comes due, especially after an Activision buyout.
Sayta to Phil: "The Iron Bank always gets its due"
The Xbox “vision” of having everything launch on GamePass never made any logical business sense, the only way that could’ve possibly worked/justified nearly 80 billion dollars in acquisitions, is if every single PlayStation/Nintendo gamer completely shifted their primary ecosystem over to Xbox, which is completely unrealistic. Either that or perfect/global Internet infrastructure for perfect cloud play, which was also unrealistic so yes, Xbox leadership did fail and do deserve whatever’s coming their way. You don’t convince your parents to buy an expensive car just to crash it, can’t really blame MS too much for Phil’s team not knowing how to drive.
Like with Disney plus throwing movie-level CGI at a lot of its shows, Game Pass had a “why did no one try this before conversation” and the answer was obvious to many but even the true believers are starting to see it too
@@sonicsean34
Even Disney’s a lot more reserved with their investments in comparison to this, and they’re far more flexible cause it’s not like they ever promised a certain amount of shows or anything.
never believe anything out of a corpos mouth.
Peanut butter on bread is delicious, even when its spread thin. I’m so tired of greed. Screw Fortune 500 companies buying small companies just to cut them. It’s hard to support CEOs and shareholders……….
This comment section is hilarious
We all poo pooed it but playstations extra and premium is what game pass needs to be, many backlog games on there for freebit only a small amount of new titles.
Congrats to all the gullible people who believed in Spencers Xbox being some sort of saviour of gaming...
the new opening HAS to stop.
Sell Obsidian & Ninja Theory to Sony.
Luke EVANS…I think that’s his name, had a good thought on his channel. Most of the people who worked on the beloved games from these studios are already gone. I think MS WILL support other studios who have retained institutional talent, even on small creative titles. Also other good studios are probably open to new hires. We will see. It still mega-sucks, but there may be some logic to find when the dust settles.
It's not true though, several Tango devs have come out to say that only Mikami left after wanting to do so for years of just overseeing projects by new talent.
28:27 While this is understandable in a general sense for any game developer, I still think Bethesda can’t withhold the Fallout franchise for more than a decade. So if Microsoft and Xbox push them to make a new one, it makes total sense that they get to do it. Otherwise any other Microsoft studio will be doing it as the Fallout show has put the franchise on an all time high.
How many of the gaming personalities ate up the Microsoft lies over and over, only a select few personalities questioned and connected the dots.
You guys are irrational and hyperbolic. There is no "connecting the dots". Microsoft has lay-offs and closures like any other company (Sony, Embracer, Take Two). It only hurts more because Tango was involved. When the founder left and the next project was years away, they made the decision to close since Hifi Rush also didn't perform well on PS5. A decision that would have been made by Bethesda anyway, with Microsoft purchasing them or without, since all of their past games have been financial disappointments.
But don't worry dude, "uncle Phil" will save gaming with his crooked smile
The thing I believe Xbox were caught off-guard by is the gamepass/revenue growth. Yes gamepass/Xbox is giving them revenue but each quarter growth is not substantial at all. So when you spend 80 freaking billion dollars on acquisitions and want to recoup that investment. It's hard to recover from it when you've have minor growth. Xbox hardware is declining each year significantly. You might say Xbox focus is not on hardware but they really should. You can't grow the subscription userbase or revenue spending without having as many new users as you can. PC users also don't rely much on gamepass sub. Otherwise there would have been shit ton of subscribers. Gamepass still at 30 million while Nintendo switch online is at 40 million more than states the reality of it. They also bet their money on cloud gaming which is still in niche status. Wrong bets and illogical acquisitions costed them what they're today
and again...
I think people would prefer if Xbox became faceless suits. The problem with being a "good guy" in a megacorp is you'll eventually have to do things that run counter to that good guy persona, and so the audience see the disparity between the talking and actions taken and feel like they're being lied to. It was always weird how much of a cult developed around Spencer. Like, no one gives a shit what you have to say. Just deliver what the consumers want.
A Windows central report some time back detailed about Spencer and him pushing Game Pass and the execs around him didn't think it can work, and yet Spencer woulsn't listen and kept pushing for it, ultimately winning the argument and getting what he wanted. At the time of that report, fanboys were short of sucking off Phil thinking he proved them all wrong. Well, about that... if Game Pass worked Xbox wouldn't be doing multiplatform releases. Nor would they be shuttering studios when Game Pass needs constant content. Nor would the MS CEO boast about how much money COD was doing on PlayStation and mention nothing about Xbox.
#JusticeForTimdog!
I see the future... Todd Howard replaces Phil Spencer.... lol
Listen, this is way into the weeds. The normies don't care about the studios. And second, dishonored is fine. It didn't light the world on fire. There aren't many clamoring for another one. I remember people were surprised a second one was made. At the end of the day, it is about what sells. Money was cheap now money is expensive. They need to turn a profit to pay off the debt. Simple as that.
In addition, Hell Blade is for the industry and not for the bottom line. And I can see Microsoft saying why are we bleeding money time and time again. Turn it around or make cuts. And sadly, they just ran out of time. I'm more shocked they were allowed to rack up all this debt and cost the company so much money. Normally like Google they would be shut down or sent 3rd party.
If we aren't going to get all Activision games on Xbox Gamepass, what's the point. The big Gamepass games like Halo didn't work out. Activision is supposed to fill that gap. I love indie games, but the pitch of Gamepass is a wide variety of games, including blockbusters. I can buy the indie games. I definitely want to play for the same price as Gamepass. I will just stop using Gamepass.
Why is no one talking about Stalker 2. That poor studio is probably fucked too ☹️
And state of decay 3..
That studio isn't owned by Microsoft
@@danielwilliams1735 thank fuck. they have more than enough to deal with at present.
Why would anyone talk about a third party studio on this topic?
I’m actually mad Xbox bought activision now
Both yall advocating for less transparency is crazy
Y'all always ask for it until it's something you don't like then you don't wana hear it and tell everyone to shut up hypocrites
This.. and they refuse to say shit about phil so that they dont get a interview..
Reminds me of the insomniac hack/leak when KFG didn’t want to report on it because personal information was leaked. Who cares about that. We wanted to discuss the content and games that were leaked not the people’s home address or burner emails accounts.
This is just getting worse. Good luck xbox studios. Facepalm
Not all xbox fans would agree but Xbox should just release all AA and lower games on all platforms, including Nintendo and pick a list of like 10 total franchises that can and will sell the box. Remove the day and date GamePass thing for all their A³+ games. Add them anywhere from 12 to 18 months on GamePass. This whole think F-in sucks and you can only hope they do better but investors don't, like Gary said, don't give a fuck and that sucks. Xbox is great. Microsoft fuckin sucks and I hate them.
Have we finally reached the stage where companies like Microsoft and Sony have finally become so arrogant and entitled that they laugh at the consumers and only focus on what happens in the board meetings?? I would say absolutely yes! In fact I believe many companies have fallen to this base monetary level thinking in shares and growth and have forgotten the needs of the consumers and needs of many employees! Maybe what needs to happen is the little people are heard and changes are made to support them while the heads take a hit and absorb the losses. Overall Xbox needs to shrink and expand at the same time! Focus on a handheld and Gamepass maybe Sony and Xbox need each other at this point and they need to work on that while keeping studios in the works to make money and focus on quality games.
I love Xbox. Been with them since OG Xbox. Right now it is difficult to see these changes and closures happening. I hope things get better though because competition is needed in the industry. Xbox overreached with studios the past decade and now the painful part has finally arrived. Hopefully they can figure things out and move forward from here.
I hope things get better for XBOX should be their new slogan 😂
100%. I prefer PS-- never owned an Xbox, but I'm not a fanboy. We are all of us better off with MS, Sony, Nintendo, Steam, GOG, Epic, etc... competing with one another for our collective dollars. I hope Xbox recovers and continues to push everyone. That push and pull among them means we get better games. I want gamers to win each generation, not the companies. Screw console warring.
@@teddyholiday8038Same. I just donated my 30000 reward points to various charities, and cancelled my GP Ultimate subscription. They've bought a heap of great devs just to kill them all off slowly. Not interested in being part of it.
Video game industry crash 2023 2024
*Western gaming crash
@@chariotgoblin8060not necessarily, even square enix said the margins for ff7 rebirth were smaller than they would have liked, it’s rough almost everywhere except Nintendo I guess
Genuinely people cannot afford loads of games they stick to possibly max 3 to.4 a year. Also I adore ff and have done for 30+ years but younger ppl consider ff to be a game that ppl.over 25 play now@ctheballer3100
Y’all don’t know what an actual crash is and it hurts an as Econ major.
@@ctheballer3100 Nice try, but Square is only a small part of the Japanese gaming industry. 90% of this shitshow belongs to the West.
I don't want to be that guy BUT didn't I said that that this would happen years ago with game pass ruining gaming industry? 😂😂😂😂
Gamepass has nothing to do with this. It’s millionaires like Phil and others at MS who only care about their paycheck.
Doesn’t Sony and Nintendo also prioritise high profile IPs? I don’t see what the difference is
Bias.
I think the difference comes in a few areas mostly coming down to PR. Nintendo and Sony tend to keep things closer to their chest than Microsoft has been, which has led to lots of recent statements from Microsoft seeming incredibly hypocritical. This doesn't make Nintendo or Sony better, but it certainly makes it easier to call out Microsoft
Looks at san frans homelessness... looks at blessing... lol rigght texas is the problem
San fran is a sh!t show but every state has a pretty serious homelessness problem
Gamepass ideally is very consumer friendly-they need to incentivize more people to want to sub to Gamepass. They can’t win the “console exclusives” market Nintendo and Sony have that on lock, they aren’t really focusing on hardware sales either but they have LOADS of new IPs from all these acquisitions-don’t shut studios and let those IPs sleep - put them ALL on Gamepass. All the CODs, all the Diablos, dude WOW imagine if Gamepass covered all their MMO subs as well?
Come on guys. Florida and Texas. Keep the politics on the campaign trail not in gaming. You just made yourself look foolish.
Pretty sick of all the over blown Xbox hate.
Every other company in games doing exact same thing
But the sky is falling when Xbox does?
Your bias is showing
Not when Microsoft is buying up companies left and right. Has a surplus of money. Making record profits and then does this. There’s a big difference
They been fucking up since the Xbox one still haven't forgotten or forgiven them for canceling scalebound
xbox should go away from gaming. They are harming the industry.
Xbox is fucking up way more than the other two. Sure, the media is way happier to bash Xbox when it happens and act sad when PS kills studios or fires people. That's nothing new that the media hates Xbox, but Microsoft makes it pretty hard to be liked.
Delete your comment, nobody agrees with your opinion / statement bro