let's listen to & rate all the pokemon champion themes

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2019
  • a bit different from the usual style of "rating things" videos but let me know what you thought! and which Champion theme you think is best! :)
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  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz  Před 5 lety +489

    lets listen to music and chill :)

  • @stillxenne335
    @stillxenne335 Před 3 lety +336

    Cynthia’s DPP:An elegant trainer.
    Cynthia’s BW2:RUNNING AT YOU AT FULL SPEED SHE HAS A KNIFE CALL THE POLICE

    • @v-repmon2322
      @v-repmon2322 Před 3 lety +6

      The bw2 was definitely better than dps

    • @luisfillipebeserra2108
      @luisfillipebeserra2108 Před 3 lety +4

      @@v-repmon2322 dps? Its not dpp the correct?

    • @jayc7171
      @jayc7171 Před 3 lety +12

      @@luisfillipebeserra2108 dppt

    • @jabroni6175
      @jabroni6175 Před 2 lety +4

      I like the dpp version,

    • @christopherandresen9790
      @christopherandresen9790 Před rokem +3

      like I said when you see cynthia at the beach you sweat bullets out of trauma and beg to arceus that it's an optional fight XD

  • @Oakesyrules
    @Oakesyrules Před 5 lety +1202

    Iris' theme is really uplifting. It's not super hype in the traditional sense, but it really captures the grandeur of the event. Gets me pumped just as much as a more intense theme.

    • @SuzakuMurkrow198
      @SuzakuMurkrow198 Před 5 lety +45

      I can agree there, at first Iris' theme was meh to me but it quickly grew to be one of my favorite champion themes along with HGSS Lance and Cynthia's theme, I love the rainbow road-esque feel it has

    • @dandazed5846
      @dandazed5846 Před 4 lety +30

      Oakesyrules
      This is why gen 5 rules. Being ambitious and making subversions paid off. Iris’ status as Champion encapsulates the gen 5 design philosophy in itself, as not only is she a little village girl that doesn’t seem as intimidating as champs before her, but her theme isn’t daunting or suspenseful like theirs and instead it’s high-spirited and dynamic. And is that not how gen 5 defined itself, by how high-spirited and dynamic it was?

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety +1

      Fighting iris is not uplifting tho that’s for sure

    • @cometcal7387
      @cometcal7387 Před 3 lety +3

      @@necfreon6259 Oh, yes it is!

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety +2

      @@cometcal7387 seriously fighting iris is he ll all her team is amazing you can’t one shot the haxorus even with ice moves while compared to Cynthia none of her team was hard to kill including her garchomp and milotic

  • @ilngsisfh
    @ilngsisfh Před 5 lety +722

    To be fair, Alder wasn’t the Match to End All Matches. He was just post game content.

    • @komarunaegi7460
      @komarunaegi7460 Před 4 lety +99

      @Lincoln Reichard
      Yeah, if he wanted to go for dramatic final battle beatdown themes, he should’ve reviewed N’s final battle theme since he was meant to be the Champion of the main story and had the same role characters like Blue did, beating the Pokémon League before you as the new Champ. Ghetsis’s theme also doesn’t count because he’s the evil team leader and his battle was meant to be a surprise to blindside you afterwards.

    • @mrthorian8096
      @mrthorian8096 Před 3 lety +29

      Alder's battle theme is indeed the worst but if we look at his encounter theme whenever he pops up... I'd lay my DS down for quite a while not doing anything as his encounter theme was just fantastic

    • @boppo16
      @boppo16 Před 3 lety +18

      @@mrthorian8096 i dunno why people don't like his battle theme. i think it's super cool. gives off a fun yet challenging vibe to me

    • @hayden-tz6gd
      @hayden-tz6gd Před 3 lety

      It was both Ghetsis and N.

    • @Cynd3r_
      @Cynd3r_ Před 3 lety +1

      The real match to end all is Ghetisis, and his theme is INTENSE

  • @jgasparmiswiredke
    @jgasparmiswiredke Před 5 lety +1557

    Ah, Cynthia's theme. The music you listen to as your team gets wrecked for the hundredth time

    • @vincentstephenson7473
      @vincentstephenson7473 Před 5 lety +1

      yep

    • @sally7157
      @sally7157 Před 5 lety +45

      She really wasn’t that hard

    • @jgasparmiswiredke
      @jgasparmiswiredke Před 5 lety +20

      @@sally7157 What kind of team/voodoo did you have to be able to say that?

    • @sally7157
      @sally7157 Před 5 lety +5

      MisWired don’t remember who exactly but I know that I never had any trouble with Cynthia

    • @vincentstephenson7473
      @vincentstephenson7473 Před 5 lety +8

      @@sally7157 to you maybe but certain people don't know her team very well

  • @ell.3970
    @ell.3970 Před 5 lety +599

    If Alder's theme were based more off his encounter theme, it would be way better tbh.

    • @Aaron-dw4fr
      @Aaron-dw4fr Před 5 lety +46

      YES, I always thought his overworld music was great

    • @CashMoneyBeater
      @CashMoneyBeater Před 5 lety +4

      That would actually be flames

    • @a_bear
      @a_bear Před 4 lety +3

      I never even battled him in BW. I didn't even know there was a champion at the time.

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz Před 3 lety +17

      Technically the champion you fight during Unova is N, and the Alder fight is post game content

    • @juanncarrizo9508
      @juanncarrizo9508 Před 3 lety

      @@Gojira_uz but N is really the Champion? I mean, he dont beat the elite 4

  • @burgermeister8261
    @burgermeister8261 Před 4 lety +430

    I very much disagree on Alder's ranking. He's not supposed to be this massive pillar that's challenging your strength, he's testing your love of pokemon and your team. He's a sage old man that cares for fun and compassion, and I think that's vert well reflected in his theme.

    • @TheTwistedTreant526
      @TheTwistedTreant526 Před 3 lety +32

      Yeah but the themr is so...unfitting. If the theme was like a remixes overworld theme would have been so much better

    • @heathdavies1845
      @heathdavies1845 Před 3 lety +3

      Ah yes vert, my favorite word

    • @hoitem6500
      @hoitem6500 Před 3 lety +18

      @@TheTwistedTreant526 this guy just explained how it does fit. Also it is a bop

    • @halcyonwalrus
      @halcyonwalrus Před 3 lety +17

      Agreed. While it doesn't fit as a champion's theme, it is a great theme that fits with his character.

    • @deadacc6338
      @deadacc6338 Před 3 lety +2

      3:41

  • @shokanshok3198
    @shokanshok3198 Před 3 lety +151

    Chat when ranking Blue's themes: ⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️➡️⬆️↔️⬇️🔀➡️⬆️⬇️

  • @dandazed5846
    @dandazed5846 Před 4 lety +219

    To me, the intro to Blue’s theme has the energy of this phrase:
    “You son of a bi-“
    Interruption and all.

  • @Dave_Chrome
    @Dave_Chrome Před 4 lety +313

    Original Cynthia, Iris, HG/SS Lance/Red, must be S
    Steven and Blue are high high A

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome Před 4 lety +8

      Granted I haven't heard any Champion theme past Gen V

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome Před 4 lety +4

      Haha, Alder's theme would've been a lit gym leader track lol

    • @ExtremeAce
      @ExtremeAce Před 4 lety +25

      Yea, true. HG/SS Lance/Red definitely deserves to be S tier

    • @meowz1894
      @meowz1894 Před 3 lety +7

      ExtremeAce249 trueeeee!!! That feeling you get when the intro rolls in; not too hyper but just enough to know “this is it. All these gyms, all these trainers, all these challenges. They led to this. This is the moment you’ve worked for”
      UNRIVALED IMO

    • @ExtremeAce
      @ExtremeAce Před 3 lety +5

      @@meowz1894 100% agreed. The best part about the intro is the little bit of Piano. Just enough to tell you, this is some real sh*t

  • @justinl2009
    @justinl2009 Před 4 lety +483

    Cynthia's theme is the official "NO PUT THAT STRAP ON AWAY" theme.

    • @nicolaslinopereira677
      @nicolaslinopereira677 Před 3 lety +2

      @RockySeeker 8330 oh, I know you got that really well

    • @SnowBoy1008
      @SnowBoy1008 Před 3 lety +2

      nsfw a tad bit

    • @eeveemaster8902
      @eeveemaster8902 Před 3 lety +28

      You sure the theme is not
      Peg me mistress Cynthia

    • @Snipergod1024
      @Snipergod1024 Před 3 lety +19

      Or 'Oh god mummy, not again! Please, my ass can't take another reaming!' theme.

    • @eeveemaster8902
      @eeveemaster8902 Před 3 lety

      @@Snipergod1024 na
      Cynthia is not really a mummy
      More like that sneaky friend mum brings over to shit talk dad over

  • @Hamantha
    @Hamantha Před 3 lety +104

    “A champion’s theme doesn’t have to go hard”
    *still put’s alders low*

    • @jabroni6175
      @jabroni6175 Před 2 lety +18

      Because it’s lame, I don’t hate Alder but his battle theme isn’t that good.

    • @setesh1294
      @setesh1294 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jabroni6175 I prefer it over Iris' theme. His theme feels like squaring up in the final round in a boxing ring.

    • @aydenmaxwell8759
      @aydenmaxwell8759 Před rokem

      @@setesh1294 okay I like alders theme but that is criminal.

    • @wrigthtalekenavi2066
      @wrigthtalekenavi2066 Před rokem

      @@aydenmaxwell8759 nah, alders theme is like Alder himself: Casual. Iris' theme has more movement, more Action, more... energy.

  • @Psycho_Raged
    @Psycho_Raged Před 5 lety +206

    Shoutout to Pokeli too. His mashups/8bit recreations are beautiful

  • @StarryOrchid
    @StarryOrchid Před 4 lety +186

    Sun and moon will always be s teir in my heart you can’t change my mind

    • @thasmadog8180
      @thasmadog8180 Před 4 lety +4

      ok

    • @cookieandme23
      @cookieandme23 Před 4 lety +9

      Haul or the professor? either way I agree immensely.

    • @keengoon116
      @keengoon116 Před 3 lety +13

      Yeah same, I dunno what he was talking about lol. It gives me chills every time, it's beautiful

    • @ADividedSoulYT
      @ADividedSoulYT Před 3 lety +7

      Same. It's the best in my opinion. The Sun & Moon version not UsUm. I don't have that game but hearing the champion theme from this video and not hearing the epic Pokémon Theme leitmotif just takes the epicness of the battle being the finale out of it.

    • @adamushu
      @adamushu Před 3 lety +9

      I think he completely missed the point of SnM's theme, its not any champion theme, its YOUR champion theme, its the Players theme. In US UM, when your champion title is being challenged, what theme do you think plays when others come to fight you? The same theme. YOU are the champion in that game.

  • @jorgejustin461
    @jorgejustin461 Před 4 lety +195

    The Sun and Moon theme is your theme because when you fight the Prof you've already won, he isn't the Champ YOU are the champ. It's more of a victory ovation for you rather than a battle theme.

  • @ThatManPersonn
    @ThatManPersonn Před 5 lety +314

    Yo evil team leaders themes when tho

    • @Hadaron
      @Hadaron Před 3 lety +4

      With both N battle themes too, that organ part in N (Final) deserves its own tier imo

    • @MrBruh-yb9qi
      @MrBruh-yb9qi Před 3 lety +1

      All the gen5 music of villians deserves their own tier

    • @toaster_rtx1829
      @toaster_rtx1829 Před 3 lety +1

      Laughs in Galactic Admin and Cyrus

    • @alainataul3367
      @alainataul3367 Před 3 lety +1

      Fr

    • @jabroni6175
      @jabroni6175 Před 2 lety

      GHEEEEEETSIS

  • @jayy7320
    @jayy7320 Před 4 lety +251

    You did Steven’s 3rd gen DIRTY. I’m sorry. Definitely deserved atleast B Tier

    • @stillxenne335
      @stillxenne335 Před 3 lety +6

      Spare Rations thank you for saying this

    • @Ivannxnja
      @Ivannxnja Před 3 lety +9

      I was screaming at my phone

    • @grydon6422
      @grydon6422 Před 3 lety +3

      Im sad he didn’t react to the XD/Colosseum version of the theme, easily the best version

    • @ArthurTRead
      @ArthurTRead Před 3 lety +1

      it sounds exactly the same as every other theme from rse imo but I think that's just me

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety +1

      To be honest I’d say it deserves c tier Stevens theme sounds so generic and that’s not taking in considerations that it is simuler to most of the other gen 3 songs

  • @Adem92Foster
    @Adem92Foster Před 3 lety +119

    Lance/Red's theme being in B hurts, especially with how good the HGSS one is

    • @raingerdiesalot
      @raingerdiesalot Před 2 lety +20

      It's interesting to hear the opinions of non-musician about the music in the games. Because he doesn't appreciate added intricacies and ear candy that a musician would. (10 year running musician here). For example, he rates Lances RBG Theme A-Tier even though it was extremely limited by its time, and then rates the revamped obviously superior B2/W2 Theme lower than it.

    • @gusmusic125
      @gusmusic125 Před rokem +3

      YES

  • @magnolia8886
    @magnolia8886 Před 3 lety +242

    Red/Lance HG/SS theme is definitely S tier. it is the most "This is battle will settle whos stronger" sounding theme

  • @thegloomyarcher
    @thegloomyarcher Před 3 lety +42

    " Dont rate it on the character just rate it on the music "
    * RATES CHAIRMAN ROSE'S THEME BECAUSE IT WAS TOO GOOD FOR HIM, A CHARACTER. *

  • @EliasMorals
    @EliasMorals Před 3 lety +61

    I think the SuMo one needs context to it as well. You, as someone new to the region and went on a journey nobody else in the world has, has managed to make it this far, as the first champion. This is *Your theme*, which near the end has more traditional-hawaiian sounding drums, which adds to the "You came to alola." in the theme

    • @EliasMorals
      @EliasMorals Před rokem +1

      @Inksurgence it stems from the fact the most games have a 4 letter Abbreviation. SwSh, HGSS, B2W2, USUM, ORAS, etc.

  • @freefall8265
    @freefall8265 Před 4 lety +192

    Can't agree with Kukui's placing. His theme's like something you hear from a graduation ceremony. He's commemorating you for becoming the first champion of Alola through battle as the person who came up and created the Alolan pokemon league. That to me is symbolic and should belong in S or at least high-mid A tier

    • @adamushu
      @adamushu Před 3 lety +21

      Also it means that theme is YOUR theme.

    • @grydon6422
      @grydon6422 Před 3 lety +13

      I really loved it too. The way Kukui was a surprise ”champion” and the battle and music starts like a big battle in the anime (the classic battle music from the original series), just brings a huge smile on my face everytime I hear it.
      To me it was perfect final battle theme, it had that hype in it while also bringing a lot of nostalgia to me (thanks to that beginning) which was amazing because it was the 20th aniversary game. Just perfect.
      Hau’s champion theme lost this even though there is the same hype opening, but that theme was great for other more basic reasons. Kukui’s theme was special.

    • @largenaq2935
      @largenaq2935 Před 3 lety +23

      Yeah lol, reading chat and listening to his criticism made me cringe. There all talking about how it doesn’t fit a battle against the champion despite the whole point literally being that you’re the 1st champion. Kukui isn’t the champion, that’s what you are going to be. It’s YOUR theme.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety +1

      Don’t listen to the character listen to the song it doesn’t stand any meaningful chance against the other songs

    • @ianrodriguez5450
      @ianrodriguez5450 Před 3 lety +1

      @@largenaq2935 so if he played sun and moon that means he's champion theme sucks so all people are going to say: your theme sucks

  • @ayolotl4830
    @ayolotl4830 Před 3 lety +64

    For Alder, I feel that his battle isn't like other champion battles. It isn't the fight to end all fights, it's just for fun. His theme is literally just build up, it leads nowhere in particular. He's just happy to get to battle you.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety

      Definitely not d tier kukuie and Steven deserves that

    • @jonathanflanagan1504
      @jonathanflanagan1504 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, the real final battles in BW are N and Ghetsis anyway.

  • @phobicc_
    @phobicc_ Před 3 lety +50

    Fun fact on Cynthia's theme: the beginning is modeled after your hyperventilation patterns

  • @KiyoshiroClips
    @KiyoshiroClips Před 3 lety +37

    Damn OR/AS champion theme hits fricking hard, suits the badass champion sooo fricking well

  • @mosesandfriends
    @mosesandfriends Před 5 lety +48

    INJUSTICE FOR STEVEN’S OG THEME. (Cynthia still has such an amazing theme though. I remember getting fucked over by her garchomp so fondly. Good times.)

    • @mirlam2558
      @mirlam2558 Před 4 lety

      I was never taken out by Garchomp, it was her ZERO WEAKNESS Spiritomb and her bulky Milotic and Togekiss

    • @hydreigon2709
      @hydreigon2709 Před 4 lety

      Injustice for not including N's Champion theme

  • @jvegajr95
    @jvegajr95 Před 4 lety +46

    The Sun and Moon theme is one that feels fun and congratulatory because you, the protagonist, made it to the top. But it also feels nostalgic in the sense that has we heard bits of this theme in a few of the Sun and Moon trailers and to hear it as the champion theme was a welcome surprise. If you listen to just the song it has an intro that might be a bit long but it leads up to something really great, something unique something you could call your own. USUM champion is similar except I feel like it's a shared theme with you, the protagonist, and Hau. Both really good themes that deserve B tier at least.

  • @CrystalGreymon
    @CrystalGreymon Před 5 lety +56

    The moment that Steven's theme came on I wanted to play Ruby and Sapphire.

  • @earthboundfan9446
    @earthboundfan9446 Před 3 lety +31

    I got mad when pat stopped iris theme that's how good it was

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe888 Před 5 lety +150

    Blues from FR LG still sounds really good after all this time.

  • @jsn593
    @jsn593 Před 5 lety +147

    Lance, Cynthia and Red have the best theme songs, don’t @ me

    • @kabxksb
      @kabxksb Před 5 lety +5

      @josh heredia you're absolutely correct

    • @omarrageh1063
      @omarrageh1063 Před 5 lety +2

      But Lance and Red's theme are really similar

    • @kabxksb
      @kabxksb Před 5 lety +7

      @@omarrageh1063 they are practically the same yes, but I take it to mean the theme is double awesome lmao

    • @KingLucarioxx
      @KingLucarioxx Před 4 lety +9

      Lance/Red , Steven , and Blue’s theme

    • @Stak0
      @Stak0 Před 4 lety

      Lance is Red’s dad? PogU

  • @justburning
    @justburning Před 3 lety +23

    I so strongly disagree with Diantha’s placement, it literally makes me bop my head to how hard it can hit, it’s so grand and smooth. It just gives me that final epic battle vibe you want for the best trainer in the reigon.

    • @nategwright
      @nategwright Před rokem +1

      Diantha's theme is galaxies better than her actual battle. It's an incredible piece of music.

  • @alejandromiguel2267
    @alejandromiguel2267 Před 4 lety +39

    dude, If you just listened to Kukui's theme for 10 more seconds...

    • @Error-gz3pp
      @Error-gz3pp Před 3 lety +18

      It’s not Kukui’s theme. It’s yours. You beat the Elite Four, Kukui is only there because you need to do a Champion battle(you’re the champion)

    • @ADividedSoulYT
      @ADividedSoulYT Před 3 lety +1

      Well, you could say it was his, but you claimed it along with the title of Champion when you beat him.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety

      Error 404 bro the elite 4 song is leuiges better then the champion theme you whould think that they whould put more stock on the champion then the elite 4

    • @Error-gz3pp
      @Error-gz3pp Před 3 lety

      @Necfreon I never even said anything like that

    • @gamesnig
      @gamesnig Před 3 lety

      @@Error-gz3pp Its his and yours theme.

  • @Arkouchie
    @Arkouchie Před 5 lety +81

    This is a good video. I'd love to see you rate more of the music in the future, this was fun
    Edit: Kukui's theme felt appropriate because he wasn't actually a champion. There wasn't a champion. It was basically a victory lap, and the music reflects that. Kukui was just there to set up the tradition of the champion battle

    • @Celintro
      @Celintro Před 4 lety +13

      I agree with you. But in all actuality, you were the champion in SM and Kukui was your first title defense. I love this them because it's YOUR theme. It just makes it great.

    • @farofa2843
      @farofa2843 Před 3 lety +1

      If i could give a music a champion theme in pokemon sun and moon it would be red and blue from battle tree or gladion's theme. These are the best battle themes in the game unless you count the elite four theme

    • @rsunni6620
      @rsunni6620 Před 3 lety +2

      Okay, but so was Leon. Don't play the hall of fame music *during the fight it makes me feel like I've already won*

    • @TrialByDance
      @TrialByDance Před 3 lety +1

      Leon's music gets such a bad rap. Honestly I can't decide if it or Cynthia's is the best, so fucking epic

  • @ryanflynn3027
    @ryanflynn3027 Před 5 lety +53

    Before watching, I know Cynthia’s is S tier

  • @AtomBacon
    @AtomBacon Před 5 lety +67

    I've always felt like, when to comes to gen 2 remixes, the BW2 version fits Lance better and the HGSS version fits Red better.

  • @theflyinmudkip854
    @theflyinmudkip854 Před 5 lety +40

    Glad I was able to watch this while doing chores because of not actually needing to see the screen. Great vid too!
    If you do more of these, maybe do stuff like, trainer battle theme, gym leader b.t., route 1 theme, rival b.t., etc.

  • @Hbre97
    @Hbre97 Před 4 lety +19

    I definitely think Steven's and Cynthia's themes are the best. And I might prefer Steven's a bit more, but idk

    • @eeveemaster8902
      @eeveemaster8902 Před 3 lety +3

      I would love to have a cythia vs Steven fight
      Just to prove cythia will make that dude submit

  • @noivernblast3366
    @noivernblast3366 Před 5 lety +59

    I still think Diantha deserved that A tier, but otherwise I mostly agree with the list.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Před 5 lety +11

      I agree. X and Y may have mixed opinions, but almost everyone can agree that the music is excellent. And why not? It's Pokémon music, after all!

    • @AuraStrikeAce
      @AuraStrikeAce Před 4 lety +2

      Meh. I personally think Diantha's theme is kind of overrated tbh.

    • @phillip9798
      @phillip9798 Před 3 lety +1

      I think she could have made A too, definitely not S, but a low A would have made me go home happy.

    • @Error-gz3pp
      @Error-gz3pp Před 3 lety +2

      Not kidding! It’s a good song, but not quite my favorite...

    • @stan3449
      @stan3449 Před 3 lety +3

      She is actually S tier for me. The fact that people don't remember her, that she is a forgettable character makes people like Iris more. even though their themes are similar, I think Diantha's one is better or at least on the same level as Iris.

  • @-.heaven.-
    @-.heaven.- Před 3 lety +29

    Whenever I listen to Iris's theme, it brings a smile to my face, it my favourite champion theme out of all of them.

    • @jabroni6175
      @jabroni6175 Před 2 lety

      I still don’t know which champion theme is my favorite but her theme is definitely a top contender.

  • @XGame80
    @XGame80 Před 3 lety +9

    I feel like red/blue champion theme felt like the theme that is the final, super epic battle that you’ve been waiting for this entire time. Meanwhile, the let’s go champion theme emphasizes that it’s still an epic battle, just...in a room. I’d say it goes in mid c

  • @tyoboi1091
    @tyoboi1091 Před 3 lety +8

    Lance/Red's theme and Cynthia's theme are the most iconic just for how much you get wiped listening to them

  • @Blazio
    @Blazio Před 4 lety +22

    21:18 My parents think I'm watching porn now

  • @callumellis8303
    @callumellis8303 Před 5 lety +21

    I love Alder's theme, S tier for me, but I think the problem was that he wasn't battled at the time you'd normally face the champion, and so his whole presence was just a bit meh once you finally got there in the post game

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri Před 3 lety +2

      Alder theme is really bad. He has nothing going on for him and since you encountered him just as the champion, there is nothing menacing or meaningful about him. He is also one of the weakest champions to date and even in the anime they had him being Cynthia's bitch.

    • @SERMareep2007
      @SERMareep2007 Před 10 měsíci

      Gen 5 simping

  • @sammcburney148
    @sammcburney148 Před 5 lety +22

    Cynthia will always be my favorite

    • @jabroni6175
      @jabroni6175 Před 2 lety

      We all know Primal Dialga’s theme will be S rank.

  • @jdamvp_821
    @jdamvp_821 Před 4 lety +16

    Lance HG/SS , Cynthia Plat, Blue , R/B , all s Tier

  • @TheGrandSilence
    @TheGrandSilence Před 5 lety +36

    Why was N not included though... is it because some argue he dosnt count as champion?

    • @tehpokespectre5872
      @tehpokespectre5872 Před 5 lety +6

      More so I forgot to include it when making the list lmfao. Probs would have slotted in N though

    • @LeMuDX
      @LeMuDX Před 3 lety +13

      He was definitely a champion, ironically he was probably the most unique character too because you battle him multiple times in the story and he ends up beating alder, only person you ever face that many times who ends up beating the champion is blue, but blue wanted to be the best trainer while N wanted what was best for Pokemon

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety +1

      He was never champion nor did he want to be

    • @TheGrandSilence
      @TheGrandSilence Před 3 lety +3

      @@necfreon6259 He defeated the elite four and the champion Alder Im preeetty sure that makes him (even just briefly) the champion?

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety

      DaemonenprinzessinXD I guess that makes sense but that doesn’t explain how iris became champion I guess she either defeated alder or defeated N after he freed every Pokémon but reshiram/zekrom

  • @Wesker1984
    @Wesker1984 Před 4 lety +19

    If there's any tracks from X and Y that need to go into the Pokémon Music Hall Of Fame, it's 1, the gym leader battle theme and 2, the Xerneas/Yveltal battle theme.

  • @Eeveethegamer26
    @Eeveethegamer26 Před 3 lety +12

    I had a massive nostalgia trip hearing Blue's theme from FR/LG

  • @oofdatoast3762
    @oofdatoast3762 Před 3 lety +30

    I like how everyone is saying “S” in the cynthia’s theme lol

    • @thechadandthevirgin5823
      @thechadandthevirgin5823 Před 2 lety +6

      It made an entire generation fear piano keys

    • @grotn_
      @grotn_ Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah lmao like it's actually so mid imo, the only good part about Cynthia is her encounter theme 😂

    • @sohn7767
      @sohn7767 Před 2 lety

      @@grotn_ yup, it’s the piano that triggers the ptsd too, as seen with the volo theme

  • @NK-lm9mr
    @NK-lm9mr Před 3 lety +12

    21:00 is SO ACCURATE LMAO the reaction "OHHHH NOOO!!!!" i fucking lost it. ur great

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 Před 5 lety +15

    Alder's theme sounds like that because, unlike the other Champions, you don't fight him as an imposing final boss. You fight him as a familiar face whom you've gotten to know well. The theme is also less intimidating than, say, N's final battle theme, because the world has been saved, and you can just relax and have a battle with no pressure or world-shaking stakes looming in the background.
    Wallace deserves more acknowledgement IMO.
    Cynthia actually has *another* remix for the Undella Town battles. The B2W2 theme you heard is her PWT theme.
    I personally liked Trace's Champion theme. I think it was a nice remix.
    Seriously? The HGSS version of Lance/Red's theme is *easily* better than the original!
    Red and Blue's SM theme is more laid back because it makes sense to have more laid-back music at a tropical island. Did you also notice that it's actually a mix of both Red *and* Blue's theme.
    Okay. Putting the SM Champion theme at the bottom and saying it's not a fitting Champion theme are just flat out incorrect opinions. Just... wow... Wasn't expecting you to say that at all...
    Such a predictable winner. Are you sure it isn't just your liking of her as a character that affected the choice?
    My personal favorites are probably the FR/LG, HG/SS, and B2W2 (Iris) Champion themes.

    • @Patterrz
      @Patterrz  Před 5 lety +7

      Opinions are great aren't they :)

    • @iamthehype3684
      @iamthehype3684 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah all comments that speak of HG/SS Lance says that it should be A or S tier. I love democracy.

    • @shadyrvn2023
      @shadyrvn2023 Před 3 lety +1

      wikiuser92 imagine allowing people to actually have opinions. I know, must sound crazy in your mind.

    • @hoitem6500
      @hoitem6500 Před 3 lety +1

      I disagree with you saying that hgss champion is better than the original, but well opinions exist

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 Před 3 lety

      Hoi Tem if I know anything about 8 bit era music is that they lack most of the back ground parts of a song to make an impact only with the exception of deoxies whould I say the first remix after those songs are better

  • @just1Gaming
    @just1Gaming Před 2 lety +9

    Bonus points to Cynthia for the piano before the battle

  • @user-oe3mc9fn2k
    @user-oe3mc9fn2k Před 5 lety +16

    Well it is true that alder shares the theme with many characters... so it kinda does work with anyone.
    It is like 'normal epic battle theme'.

  • @CommodoreMudkip
    @CommodoreMudkip Před 3 lety +3

    S: Cynthia and SM champion theme
    A: Iris, Lance, Blue
    B: Steven, Diantha, Leon, Hau
    C: Alder

  • @coal4457
    @coal4457 Před 3 lety +6

    Feel like every time blue shows up, it’s like... “YOU WANT TO TRY ME MOTHER F-?!”

  • @Jungle_Twist
    @Jungle_Twist Před 3 lety +8

    If the champion theme from HG/SS isnt at least A, im rioting

  • @ElysiaWhitemoonOmega
    @ElysiaWhitemoonOmega Před 3 lety +6

    personally i think these themes fit the character, its not always champion worthy, but it fits the character, like alder and iris

  • @joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724

    Honestly Cynthia's theme is a bit over rated. Is more the difficulty from the battle that gives that energy

  • @nabra5231
    @nabra5231 Před 5 lety +6

    Honestly erase Red and let Cynthia be the new face of the awesomeness in Pokémon cause this woman has been the absolute boss in everything since she was introduced lol

  • @serpent2776
    @serpent2776 Před 4 lety +8

    If Iris isn't number 1, I'm going to be mad.

  • @zach__jew7856
    @zach__jew7856 Před 3 lety +11

    Literally watching this tier list over a year later cause we need more tier lists

  • @royalultimax3187
    @royalultimax3187 Před 5 lety +12

    Kukui, Iris, and Diantha all deserve S tier, no one can change my mind about that. I dare you to try.

    • @therock81490
      @therock81490 Před 5 lety +1

      Max Beckham THIS MAN KNOWS QUALITY!

    • @kai_824
      @kai_824 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes very much yes

    • @Vescilla
      @Vescilla Před 5 lety +2

      I agree on Iris, Diantha I'd put in high A, Kukui is too weird for me tho

    • @Lester_da_Molester
      @Lester_da_Molester Před 5 lety +1

      iris shouldve been S tho

    • @FLFL-Cookays
      @FLFL-Cookays Před 5 lety

      @@Vescilla I'd put Kukui high only if the bit where it intros using the classic intro kept up or even really felt like it was used much.

  • @OriginalGameteer
    @OriginalGameteer Před 5 lety +6

    I mean to be fair
    Alder is post game
    N was *the* match in BW, to me

  • @UnknownUser_10
    @UnknownUser_10 Před 3 lety +5

    Remembering the first time I cane to Cynthia, this theme started and I already felt the defeat 😂

  • @aleosus1479
    @aleosus1479 Před 3 lety +3

    All I heard from iris thanks to blaze black 2.
    Haxorus uses dragon dance.
    Haxorus lived on 1 hp due to focus sash.
    Haxorus use outrage
    Haxorus use outrage
    Haxorus use outrage.
    Haxorus is confused
    You use a revive
    Haxorus use outrage

  • @timesez3895
    @timesez3895 Před 3 lety +1

    Fun fact! The X And Y Champion theme actually played in the World Championships during the Gen 6 Era

  • @lucygirl1111
    @lucygirl1111 Před 5 lety +10

    cynthia's most likely going to be on S rank and maybe next tier list is for all the other pokemon games not the main ones but like pokemon mystery dungeon, pokemon ranger ect

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton Před 2 lety +4

    Gen 5 tried to do something different with the Champion themes, like with everything else. They fit them to the characters rather than the role. So Iris’ theme is brilliant, but yeah, as a champion theme, I can’t put it above A.

  • @sgod4538
    @sgod4538 Před 3 lety +4

    Steven ORAS and Cynthia original = INSTANT S+++

  • @philipsparks6089
    @philipsparks6089 Před 3 lety +3

    I DID NOT REALIZE HOW HARD SUN AND MOONS THEME SLAPPED

  • @ElywinCarrinithshinyhunting

    Listening to good music while hearing opinions that sound like they come out of a flaming dumpster fire. Perfect

  • @raimykoeiman6784
    @raimykoeiman6784 Před 5 lety +9

    There is a normal black and white theme of cynthia and there is a PWT version of cynthia's theme (their is a diffrents in those 2)

    • @ExtremeAce
      @ExtremeAce Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, the normal BW is a bit higher pitched DPPt version and a lower pitched better B2W2 version

  • @dddaartist3204
    @dddaartist3204 Před 3 lety +13

    me: *vibing to the music*
    advertisements: "allow us to introduce ourselves"

  • @nillstan5564
    @nillstan5564 Před 3 lety +12

    Other themes gave a feeling of camaraderie, epicness, and conclusion. Cynthia's theme kicked my fight or flight reflex on. That ALONE makes it the best Champion Theme in my eyes. And thats not even getting into the fact that it slaps like no other.

  • @ShinyDarkrai2K
    @ShinyDarkrai2K Před 2 lety +2

    Honestly, I enjoy watching these when I'm trying to write my own version of a particular kind of theme and get stuck, because you share your idea of what these sorts of themes should represent, which kinda helps a bit.

  • @JetfireQuasar
    @JetfireQuasar Před 5 lety +22

    @Patterrz Next do Legendary Pokemon themes :P

  • @memelord7567
    @memelord7567 Před 2 lety +3

    I feel like do this ranking, even though Alder is technically the champion, it should be N's final battle theme instead, since he's really the big final fight and Alder is postgame

  • @dominiczipfel5317
    @dominiczipfel5317 Před 5 lety +1

    this was a fun video, thanks for all the smiles pat, keep it up bro

  • @InfernoTune727
    @InfernoTune727 Před 3 lety +2

    Me during cynthias theme severe ptsd but still vibing

  • @LeahLovesNature
    @LeahLovesNature Před 5 lety +10

    Here's how I would rank the Champion battle themes:
    S tier = Blue, Steven
    A tier = Lance, Cynthia (they would be S tier but less nostalgia for me than the other two)
    B tier = Iris, Red/Blue theme from Sun/Moon
    C tier = Alder, Diantha
    D tier = Kukui, Hau (I'm sorry, they just sound too cheery to be Champion themes)
    The S and A tiers are super close, though.

  • @theazureknight8975
    @theazureknight8975 Před 3 lety +5

    Cynthia just slays in literally everything

  • @Mike_H16
    @Mike_H16 Před 5 lety +5

    You my man deserve a big fat like for this video! Shame I missed this on the stream!

  • @maxdekudess3354
    @maxdekudess3354 Před 2 lety +2

    I love how he puts gs Lance's theme in a tier, but then b2w2 Lance's theme he puts in b, while b2w2 is better, with quality of the song, feeling to it, and the instruments

  • @alexplaymaker7690
    @alexplaymaker7690 Před 4 lety +6

    Wtf why isn’t this guy recognise any of the soundtracks ?

  • @josemedina1663
    @josemedina1663 Před 5 lety +4

    Kukui’s themes sound sonstrong though! Very contrasting lows and highs that make it sound epic! I just atleast believe it didn’t deserve D... it even gave me some chills haha

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi Před 3 lety +2

    Don't even need to finish the video, I already know who's going in S-Tier.

  • @Drew9140
    @Drew9140 Před 3 lety +2

    This is very late, but in Back and White and the squeals, Cynthia’s theme is different when you fight her in the house in Undella town. It’s ways better than the World Tournament theme

  • @beaudeimos
    @beaudeimos Před 3 lety +3

    I always thought the best version of Steven’s champion theme was the version used in the VS mode for Pokémon Colosseum

  • @asdfrg100
    @asdfrg100 Před 5 lety +5

    I just beat soulsilver and Lance's battle took me an hour and a half of pure shenanigans and hearing it again made me just dive into a closet like NO DRAGONITE GO AWAY SHOO

    • @scarletrose8766
      @scarletrose8766 Před 3 lety

      Lance has way too many dragonites then again he was a dragon type trainer and there were barely any dragon types during gen 2 so the dragonites reapeat was bound to happen

  • @scarletrose8766
    @scarletrose8766 Před 3 lety +1

    What's good about Cynthia is the music that plays before her actual theme starts then suddenly it switches its gear when the battle starts

  • @Supermateo97
    @Supermateo97 Před 3 lety +2

    I knew Cynthia's theme was gonna be the winner before even clicking the video

  • @armoredanteater609
    @armoredanteater609 Před 3 lety +4

    Cynthia gives me chills

  • @juliantschausoff7985
    @juliantschausoff7985 Před 3 lety +5

    17:10 The sound of being swept

    • @xdYama
      @xdYama Před 3 lety

      The sweep of being sounded

    • @fran.593
      @fran.593 Před 3 lety +1

      The sound of you being transported from the dimension of joy and fun to the dimension of pain and death

    • @eeveemaster8902
      @eeveemaster8902 Před 3 lety

      @@fran.593 the sound of being used as a play thing

  • @thbontyhunter2424
    @thbontyhunter2424 Před 5 lety +2

    Honestly wallace theme should be in there because its stevens theme but everything wrong with it got fixed and would honestly move it to A
    The only thing emerald did than RS, the themes

  • @aventurasdemais8261
    @aventurasdemais8261 Před rokem +1

    12:05 The simple complexity and the rhythm really makes me like this song a lot

  • @PokeDachs
    @PokeDachs Před 5 lety +13

    HOW DARE YOU MORTAL?! ALDER NEEDS HIS OWN TIER
    Alder Tier

    • @mattardis
      @mattardis Před 5 lety +7

      ALDER TIER
      Right below D tier

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Před 5 lety +2

      Alder is awesome. Stop hating him.

    • @PokeDachs
      @PokeDachs Před 5 lety +2

      @@wikiuser92 I don't hate Alder, in fact he's my favorite champion because of his personality. He's just a chill guy.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Před 5 lety

      @@PokeDachs Yeah. I understood that. I was talking to @Mattardis.

  • @fabioalanmp
    @fabioalanmp Před 5 lety +3

    Do more tier lists of pokemon music :D
    Do for the legendary theme or for Rival Theme

  • @brassknucklehead1083
    @brassknucklehead1083 Před 2 lety +2

    Not even really a hot take, but Cynthia’s theme is overrated as hell. Everyone just focuses on the fight that comes with it. I think in terms of “boss battle” feel there are waaay better contenders. The original Blue theme from first gen fucking BOPS. You didn’t even know a champion existed then, and you just finished four consecutive fucking dreadnoughts as a kid, just to learn you got one more and he’s the absolute worst. The crazy intro to that song is so intense! And it’s so all over the place the whole fight like your fighting for your life. Also I think sun and moon remix of reds theme fucking slaps as well. Kikui’s theme from sun and moon is the ultimate coming of age boss theme. It takes motifs from the game and really feels like a “you’ve come so far and this is the final recap” type of song. It’s actually super well made, just not a metal intense sort of boss

  • @spid2r800
    @spid2r800 Před 2 lety

    PS: The World Champion Theme from X and Y was played during the respective Finals of Pokemon World Championships.