RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel NOT GETTING RECALLED | Certified Diesel Mechanic Explains..
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- ** I do NOT work directly for Cummins, rather I work at a fully certified Cummins shop and these are simply my Educated Opinions based upon Publicly available sources and information **
I review this RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel engine and explained the Emission Recall as a certified Cummins Mechanic. I go over the pros and cons of this 67A emission recall. I discuss important factors like how certain Cummins diesel engines will not need to be recalled. I also discuss what I think is going to happen to these Cummins engines after the emission recall including power loss, fuel economy and emission related issues. Lastly I discuss the mitigation that Cummins has agree to pay totaling almost 2 billion dollars in fines.
EPA RECALL CHART - www.epa.gov/enforcement/cummi...
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on January 10th this agreement was agreed upon between cummins and the EPA. there is some great information that I wanted to share.
firstly the 2019-2023 ram cummins diesel trucks will NOT be getting recalled. this is great news. the reason why they were included in the first place is because of failure to disclose emission software to the EPA. but thankfully these engines were fully emission complient resulting in no recalls needed.
Secondly we found out that the 2013-2018 trucks did indeed fully have defeat device software in them. this software was used to make sure the when the trucks were getting emission tests they ran clean but during normal driving conditions the truck would be emitting too many nox gases.
People are saying that after the recall these trucks are using more deisel exhaust fluid or DEF which makes sense. I think what cummins is going is runing more EGR gases through the engine to limit emissions.
I think over the long run we will see more fuel being burnt because of more frequent regens. These engines will run more sooty and this cause more EGR coolers and EGR valves to fail. Thankfully cummins is going to extent warranty on these emissions but it will be interesting to see long terms results on power and fuel economy on those cummins diesel engines.
lastly is the mitigation that Cummins has agreed to. worth around 325 million dollars. they will pay california 175 million and replace 27 locomotive engines with clean diesels or electric engines.
let me know what you guys think! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I don't claim to know all the facts these are simply my opinions based upon readily available sources.
Many of us were left with few options but to delete the whole mess. After multiple failures, inability to get parts and warranty running out on insanely expensive components, it made more sense to just remove it all. Thankfully some of us live in states with no emissions testing, so we can get away with tossing a couple hundred pounds of headache into the bin and letting our trucks breathe.
It’s a shame that you have to tear $15k worth of parts off the new trucks just to get them to run right. Then pay at least another couple grand for the kit and tune. Another reason why newer diesel trucks are so expensive…tens of millions spent on emissions r&d, manufacturing, and lobbying
Thank Obama
I can tell ya one truck that isnt gonna get this recall done MINE!!!! 140k on mine with absolutely ZERO problems with the emissions on it it has a tuner and is still running emissions!! i get about 2500 miles out of a full def tank so if it aint broke i am NOT gonna fix it!!!
Yay.. The EPA has saved us!! How much energy is going to be expended in regen, replacement parts and decreased efficiency. If we got the calculator our, I bet its a net negative...
Exactly my thought, just add up the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of gallons used just to transport DEF by tanker trailer or by pallets of it in plastic jug form, all that wasted fuel and energy just to create, package and transport DEF… then include the energy for SCR, DPF and EGR systems to be created, transported, and that whole circle of a process… I bet if we had none of these emissions systems, the end result would be the same .
@@MXvsATV144Clown.
Cummins got scammed by the EPA. That should be a crime in itself.
How so? Did Ford or GM get scammed as well?
The EPA is a scam in its self. They aren't saving anything but pocketing money.
I mean Cummins did legit have defeat devices in their trucks. as for the failure to disclose for the 2019+ trucks - That's crap.
@ALMX5DP We are all getting scammed by the EPA and government for the push for EV's and these bullshit emissions systems. But hey, they just released the largest cruise liner ever built- make it make sense.
Yes! Any company being forced to put this junk on are being scammed
It seems pretty shady why California is getting so much of that mitigation money
I don't know why, could be because of the research they do. not really sure.
@@TheGettyAdventuresfeel like as the whistle blowers that’s their cut of the settlement.
As an auto technician in CA, I can tell you CARB is only concerned with procuring $$ however necessary. Having dealt with getting 'CARB EO exemption certification' for aftermarket parts, it is literally about paying them enough $$ till they say ok certified.
@@elcaminomantjust like every government agency. Permission is only granted to use our rights when we pay the kings ransom. It’s getting real 1776-ey around here….
California and EPA can go to hell!
And 1 large cargo ship equals 50 Million cars. Think we are worried about the wrong-thing here.
nothing burns like bunker oil.
Very good point, often overlooked, most of the ships are carrying a bunch of low quality dollar store crap that we should be manufacturing in North America anyway.
The factories emit too much pollution, so how would we make it here?
@@robmd3851
I’m not going to say I’m the most environmentally conscious person out there & definitely no tree hugger, but what exactly is the US EPA supposed to do about the hundreds or thousands of cargo ships registered in every other country EXCEPT the US? Maybe require ships within the 12 miles or so(?) around US to run on ULSD? or wind power? Maybe battery/solar?
Just off the top of my head. Tax seems to work. That is what is done to us. Maybe make it cost effective to manufacture here in the US. Its all about control and money.
Unbelievable. The EPA needs to be audited themselves.
There's a Supreme Court case in litigation right now regarding the authority and reach of US government agencies like the EPA. The conservative majority court is expected to overturn existing case law with their decision which will reel in these unelected bureaucrats. We'll see what happens.
More great info from Alex. Thanks for what you do. That truck sure sits up high, side mirror almost over your head. Have a great week.
Haha thank you sir! but I'm only 5'8 so I probably make the truck look tall lol
@@TheGettyAdventures I'm 6'3" . I know I'm tall.
@@avioncamper Clap hands.
Yep, my 2022 uses more DEF than my 2018. Mileage is the same, regens, etc no different between the two. More DEF usage means less EGR.
Delete them and they'll use no def.
@@duckwacker8720 Not an option.
@@Mill72 it's a requirement.
@@duckwacker8720 Okay
@@Mill72 it is lol
It’s not about emissions. It’s about them trying to find a way to self-fund their agency. They have been u see threats from congress to cut their funding before. Just like police departments self-funding using fines from unmanned speed cameras.
Wtf
The next agency that will do this is the IRS. They are under the same threat.
What about China and India’s pollution? What about the multiple hundred’s of nuclear tests the us did back in the day in the ocean and in Nevada? Sure that’s a lot worse for the o-zone than my 6.7 restricted diesel. Crazy how the government always goes after the working man in some way, shape or form. Great video my guy
The cargo ships have no population control. Our government is trying to control and punish the working class
same BS here in europe- even more crazy- they ship the cars that dont pass emmissions (and other so called junk or wrecked but drive) to near east and africa - there they drive foranother 20 years- so this whole pollution thing is a joke
Thanks clarifying this Alex. You continue to put out great information. As always people tend to jump to conclusions. 👍
IDK if it was the way you talked about it or if I maybe misunderstood how you said it but in regards to the ECM, the ECM is fully programed at the Cummins Midrange Engine Plant and the engine is shipped to the Ram assembly plant with the ECM affixed to the side of the engine with the engine side harness attached. This allows Cummins to test run every single engine before shipping to Ram assembly plant.
You are correct. ECM is from Cummins. The RAM/Cummins agreement says that Cummins is not allowed to connect to any RAM trucks and if caught there is huge fines. So Cummins isn’t allowing any of their mechanics the software to hook up. It’s not like Cummins doesn’t know how to connect to their own engines. They just won’t take the chance of getting caught.
Good update! I am considering a 2024 RAM Diesel 3500 purchase. So this has my attention!
Won't be able to delete it. I have a 23 and there's no chance other than buying a 21 ecu with a similar Vin and tuning that.
Love your channel and the info. Thank you
The whole point of SCR/DEF systems was to move NOx reduction OUTSIDE of the combustion chamber to reduce the need for EGR to lower combustion temperatures in the cylinder and to reduce particulate production during the combustion process. So, it would seem to me that the LOGICAL solution to the NOx emission issue would be to enhance the SCR/DEF capabilities of reducing NOx emissions, not regressing to dirtier, lower temperature combustion that increases particulates. In that light, having the software increase DEF usage to potentially reduce NOx outside of the engine's combustion chamber would make sense.
And that's the reason I'm not going to let them update my 2014. I've already had 3 recalls on my def system. 3 dpf filters, 3 scrs, 3 def pumps, 2 water pumps, 1 egr valve, all recalled or warenteed.
I recently put a turbo actuator on it at 189,000 and still running original turbo. I'm at 206,000 miles rt now. I've cleaned the egr valve and tube only but never that filter box above the turbo, I don't want to even get into that nightmare although it's probably getting pretty clogged up by now. I have lost some power and gas mileage.
Best solution to this problem is simply don't take your truck in for the recall software.
I'm glad I still own my 07.5 2500 4x4 that I bought brand new in late 07. The cost of parts for these vehicles are insane, if I had to replace everything it would probably cost $15,000+ if you could find the parts. I really can't understand why one state sets the rules for an entire country on this matter, California is a joke. Can't wait to see all the lithium batteries from their electric vehicles pile up and then see what they do. My stuff got "stolen" and I can't find the other's that "fell off" while driving. Good video and straight foward information.
Awesome info! Thanks for putting this together
Thank you sir.
2019 trucks were already recalled back in 2020 when Ram released the VB6 emissions recall. 67A is 2013-2018 trucks. The recall flash is nothing more than a NOx sensor strategy change. 2020 and newer trucks already have the updated flashes and necessary updates.
Man... I have been watching this closely. I appreciate your information. I literally just bought a brand new 2023 RAM 2500 Tradesman w/the Cummins 6.7L I6 on December 22nd 2023 and then I start hearing about this!!! I'm a new truck and 1st time diesel owner, bought this to haul a toy hauler eventually. Hey BTW those wheels you have on your 3500 could I get a set of those for my 2500 I eventually want to replace my steel wheels with the covers BUT want to keep the stock wheel and tire dimensions?
With the after-treatment systems, these trucks were not made to be daily driving vehicles. I tried to make the daily driving work with my 2018 RAM, but the DFP was getting build-up only a matter of time before it failed. As Alex mentioned, you have to get them on the highway and get them hot to avoid some of these after-treatment issues.
Correct. I had my DPF removed and cleaned about 2 months ago. The mechanic told me to go on mini road trip every Sunday, run it in 4th gear to get the rpms up above 2000 When return home, let it idle for about 15 minutes so it can cool down properly
@@timothymoses216 That's exactly what I was told to do by the dealership with my 2018 - drive it on the highway for about 20 mins each week and make sure the DPF cycle finishes. Eventually, I had the exhaust upgraded and that solved the issue.
@brenteason9891
I wish they had an option on our view screen so we will know when we're in regen and when its finished
@@timothymoses216 The in-dash screen would be nice on the 4th gen trucks. I used my EDGE CTS3 monitor to see the regen process. Before that I had the simple OBD2 dongle plugged in my truck with a mobile phone app to see what the truck was doing on the regen (DPF temps go up and fuel mileage goes down).
So the 2023 I bought has a dpf gauge and it'll regen at 25%. I use it only to tow my camper or tractor ajd it never gets to 25% anymore. I bought a beater to DD. I've has the 23 for 6 months and towed 5k miles. You guys are correct, this truck isn't really made to be a bro truck. If it's used for how it was designed, the emissions components aren't problematic. It's all refined and modeled after our class 8 counterparts
I got a low voltage def injector code within 24 hours of the recall. Could that be due to the recall?
Wow! A great take on Cummins. I sure hope you are right about the recall
Typical Government: "We'll fix it until it doesn't work worth a crap anymore"... You're Welcome!
My 2018 went in the shop for emissions issues. Then they did the update. And now 14 days later it's back in the shop again.
Why not delete it?
What is it in the shop for now?
@@91CavGT5 warning service DEF System
@@jefflamb2900 I would love to but because I just purchased it in September and had requirements. Had to be under 100k. It also had to have extended warranty. Also able to be serviced by Ram Dealer. After its up I'm free to do what I need.
@@seanfritz1355 So why put the requirements on yourself, overpay for them and then have to wait it out and deal with the issues caused by emisions?
Great info. Thanks for explaining.
Lets see what a ruling on Chevron does to the EPA.
Just hike the price of fuel $1 and keep on trucking is what Chevron would do
Yeah! Who needs regulations! Companies always do the right thing. 🙄
Along with the fishermen case
Wouldn't chunks of this soot breaking free and entering the combustion chamber create hot spots during the ignition cycle? I would think that could lead to piston failure. Any teeth to this?
will that engine hoist in the back of the shop pick up a cummins isx 15 litre?
Okay, what about us guys with deleted trucks egr valve, cooler, dpf scr doc all removed. And tuned. Can i take my truck in get the recall fine with all that removed to say it's been done? I'm aware it won't do nothing. But itll checked off as a recall. Will I still be able to tune my truck. With it all deleted would they even think about doing it?
I'm out west in B.C. and just received my 67a recall. I plan on doing it as others have stated no performance changes, just slightly more use of DEF fluid.
But why go out of your way to have something done to your truck with no benefit to you?
@@wtbmanespecially now that a jug of Liberal tears is at almost $30
I’m glad I keep my 5.9 mega cab going non of that bs emission garbage
I’m still kicking myself for selling our 2007 3500 megacab 5.9!!! We just couldn’t afford to fix it.
Have a 2018 peterbilt with 527,000 miles. I use pittsburgh power fuel catalyst faithfully. Keeps combustion very clean with limited sensor failure. Cleaned dpf at 350,000, well past recommended time.
Thought diesels were compression not combustion? Maybe I'm wrong
@@benjaminwright1807They are compression.
so I have a question does this flash that we are being told to do encrypt the ECM? let me know thanks
Dose using the fast idle feature (1,000 rpm) make any difference
As a diesel fitter myself i have noticed the smell of engins burning oil due to abrasive soot caused by EGR returning to the cylinder
Far as I know, railway locomotives are pretty much the most fuel efficient way to move cargo period. It's probably only 27 locomotives because of the cost to perform the retro fit and the length of time the NOx reduction will take place in is probably many years and way more miles than an average Ram 2500/3500 truck driver
Great info. Thx for sharing
Do you work on the entire drive-train? l have a 19 3500 HO with that asin trans, Would you be interested in helping me figure out what is going on with this thing when heavy hauling?
If you have renewable diesel in your area it cuts down on DEF usage a lot. I'm assuming it burns much cleaner as advertised so less def is needed. Seems to keep my 1st gen smoke down too....best of both worlds
Great content! Agree! What about all the locomotives, 630k truck to have equivalent soot and EPA does not says anything?
Is there any way to tell if my 2015 has the 2 sensor SCR short of just presenting my VIN?
And I am SOOO glad that the EPA now has $1.7 billion to buy us some clean air. That's what they do with the money, right?
Yup, they imported one container of sailboat fuel directly from China where everyone knows the clean air is .
I complied with 67A, the very next day, my truck set a MIL P1C54. The Consent Decree Appendix B describes a Special Extended Warranty. Yet when I called the dealership and FCA Customer Care, they claim there is no Warranty. Emailed CARB with no response. Not sure what else to do at this point.
My work truck is a 2017 Ram 4500 and I took it to the dealership to see if it had the recall. They looked it up and it doesn’t have the recall. I wanted to see if I could see or notice a change in power, fuel/DEF consumption, not my truck so it would’ve been a good test for me.
Cool, looks like my 2019 3500 Cummins truck was built on 10/30/19 which means I'm past their cutoff date. Hope it stays that way.
You touched up on the things I was gonna mention which is long idle times and not allowing your truck and emissions system to get up to temperature….. those there are big issues…. If you have at least 15mins of highway cruising time that’s usually enough time to get up to temp but if your primary commute is under 10 miles per trip consider once per week taking your truck for a cruise for about 1-2 hours at highways speeds
And unfortunately best cases are longer distance hauling so the truck has to work more so if you are buying an emissions truck all of them suffer to a degree with these issues so if your wanting a big truck but can’t avoid the trouble driving conditions or take your truck for long drives on regular a basis get a gasser version and you should save a lot of headaches…..
The EPA wouldn’t enforce these systems, if they we’re responsible for cleaning them.
I have a 2018 ram 2500 with the Cummins. I don’t plan to get this recall done. I haven’t had any issues with this truck. I added a banks intake horn and this helped with power and mpg.
Usually they will refuse to allow you to register your vehicle if its a federally required recall (EPA) until you have the recall taken care of. Thats what happened to me.
@@XRakkgruntX my ram uses def like it’s going out of style. Not planning to get this recall done.
So happy to own a Gen3 Ram 5.9 Cummins... not as much HP and TRQ as the 4th and 5th Gen units...but such deficiencies can be rectified with aftermarket tuners (at least here in Canada). I saw nuttin but trouble from day one with the 6.7 and EGR/DEF systems .. as with anything that starts out simple and gets revised .. there is never a guarantee that the changes make for a better system...a sad state of affairs when 3 government agencies/boards interfere with engine design and spec ..... many Canuks were dropping $2K to have the EGR/DEF sytems removed (clandestinely of course).
Appreciate the intell on this matter
Thank you sir!
Once the recall is completed ie is the ECM locked for tuning purposes?
Wouldnt it produce more emissions if its inhaling soot as apposed to fresh air????
I notice you're from New Brunswick. Do you know if Canada is going to make the recall mandatory? Ive heard rumors that certain U.S. areas will need to see proof before you can renew your registration.
Probably affect most of the east. Alberta and Sask don’t care. We’re all deleted out here and don’t have these bullshit issues
To avoid idling, a heater, like a Webasto, may be worth the investment, though it may seem costly up front.
or even an oil pan heater would be a great idea for cold climates.
@@TheGettyAdventures I think he's referring to cab heat.
I was referring to a diesel fired engine heater. In the cold, plug it in (Block, pan, and battery) when you can. When out and about, fire up the Espar or Webasto to keep the engine warm and no /or little warm-up time required.
@@rodmcisaac3 Ah ok. When I looked up that name all it brought up was cab heaters lol.
Idk the dpf fell of mine so i doubt they'll fix it under the recall
I can definitely tell you that I am burning through DEF a ton more than I did before the update.
Thanks for the info!
Figured this will make some people happy
Any chance of a total engine recall or extended warranties?
What if you want with the Bank monster?
Are you performing the recalls or can only RAM dealers perform the recall? Any updates from owners if DEF pumps are failing or FC's due to the recall?
Side note, are you a Matco guy or what tools and boxes you use? Box tour?
On the bigger ISL in our fire trucks it’s really bad because they do a lot of stop and go and idle on scene for hours at a time so it’s even worse in the commercial truck side.
I'm missing something here, why couldn't someone come up with a soot scrubber for the ERG, something with a filter ? Crazy that we would purposefully send dirty soot back into the engine instead of capturing it !
Always wondered why they chose to pull the exhaust gasses directly off at the manifold instead of post dpf. I’m guessing it’s for packaging & assembly purposes, but I’m no automotive engineer.
Plain and simple. They want to do away with fossil fuel vehicles. Why do you need egr if you have def. It's all about money.
@@jeffs2809I believe the mini duramax in the small GM trucks egr’s pull after the scr. It is precisely cause of packaging. Those have the scr attached to the manifolds. Good design.
@jffs2809 Cat had a CGI system before they got out of the truck market and it was not very good
Check out FASS EGR Solutions . Less soot into engine with their product that they came out with.....
Love my '98 12 valve more and more!
I just got a notice in the mail yesterday for my 2023 3500
Emissions or Taillight?
Emissions, but it was for my old 2018. Nothing for the 2023.@@idaho_7407
Just a thought. Egr valves don't make the engine produce any more particulate they just make the engine eat it again so there shouldn't be any more particulate going through the dpf and creating the need for more regens
What do you consider Idling for a considering amount of time? Is there a reasonable amount of time?
Well in Canada you can expect a truck to idle at least 20minutes a day. But in the south, why would someone idle a truck. They say for every 1 hour idle, it equals 20 km's (in terms of engine wear)
That being said, people don't usually throw their truck away because of an engine. It's usually a bunch of small stuff that add up, and people ignore the repairs. Then when a big repair hits, it's not worth fixing, because the vehicle has become junk.
Yes there is a reasonable amount of time. a couple minutes here and there is perfectly fine. but warming up your truck for 15 minutes every morning is tough on these engines.
@@justinbourgeois4685 My experience with the Ford 6.7 Powerstroke diesel is that every hour of extended idling filled the DPF from 3%-12%--sometimes more in cold conditions or with lower quality fuel. I had elevated idle control (EIC) on my pickup where I could manually increase the idle RPM to about 1,200 rpm in very cold temperatures to keep the engine at operating temperature. At "regular" idle in frigid temperatures, the engine was not burning enough fuel to maintain temperature. The truck ECM would also raise the idle RPM if the engine was cooling down excessively, but my experience was that the ECM will not "intervene" and raise the idle RPM above normal until the engine had already cooled very significantly. At any rate, I tried to idle my 6.7 a minimum of time--seldom longer than 20 minutes, if that. As an aside, the 6.7 Powerstroke, 6.6 Duramax, and 6.7 Cummins were used a lot in the Fire, Rescue, and Ambulance vehicles where I used to live--all of which could see extended idle times. The various agencies all quietly deleted the DPF and SCR/DEF on those vehicles because they were so prone to failure during extended idling--often crippling the vehicles' ability to perform their critical missions. Fortunately, it was a rural area without local or state emissions inspections.
@@TheGettyAdventures my next door neighbor here in Calgary has a fairly new Duramax 6.6, I've seen him let it warm up for an hour when its really cold.
Good video. This is my experience I have a 21 high output Cummins I took it in to get it serviced while it was there the service department told me when I went to pick it up that they performed the recall so my question is does that mean they lied to me or something else going on??
A few years ago I took my truck in for an unrelated issue and they told me they performed the water pump recall. Took the truck in 6 months later and it turns out they didn't actually perform the recall, they just told me they did, even though I hadn't asked for it. Dealerships are strange places.
And then there is the heater intake nut issue whats going on at cummins?
I have a 2006 Laramie 4x4 quad cab Cummins with 63k miles and in practically mint condition Thankfully none of this applies to me. With all this going on, my truck is likely worth more now than what I paid for it in ‘06.
Time to defund the epa and irs.
Do you think there will be a buyback or settlement similar to VW. I was just about to start looking for a new truck but since this news hit not sure what to do? Wait or continue on and order a new one?
Unlikely, since it appears they have a fix that epa & carb is ok with & it’s just a software update. But there’s ambulance chaser lawyers out there everywhere that are looking for every opportunity to sue, so only time will tell.
judging by the settlement details there does not look to be buy backs and all news trucks won't be effect from recalls.
Emissions on a diesel are almost crippling. I know when I had ALL of my emissions removed on my 2016 Duramax, she breathed so freely, and accelerated so effortlessly, it felt as if I was driving with my brakes on the whole time before that.
I have 10x 6.7 ISB's. If I do a service I run a regen and observe the live data for issues. This should be done anytime the vehicle is inspected. I have not had one stopped up EGR cooler yet. The pedestal gets clogged regularly, but the symptoms are easy on that. I have had 2 EGR coolers leak and need to be replaced. If temp one is over 750 degrees it needs a cooler, less than 400 won't regen needs a new cooler(leaky). Temp 3 higher than temp 2 the DOC is clogged. PPM level 2 over ~70(end of regen) then there is a hole in the DPF. Always inspect the doser. If PPM 2 levels are really low and it smells like a wet mop you got a leaky doser, check the tailpipe to see if it has been hanging out with scarface.
Okay, what do you consider idling to long? Coldstart idling and running cool down length. Nobody ever says.
How long can you let the engine idle to warn up before take off? How long is too long?
Thanks for the great videos.
Best advice I've heard is remote start on the way to the truck, get in, put seat belt on, set radio station, take off gently and be nice to it until the coolant temp gauge starts to register. Don't let it sit there for 5+ minutes idling.
I start mine and just put it on about 2000 rpm till gauge comes up 150,000 no problems no codes
So if the 2019+ engines are set up differently wouldn't they be using more DEF and have worse MPG than the previous models. I'm still having a difficult time determining exactly what the root cause is.
Probably a dumb question but why can't they dump the soot into a catch can or something vs. putting it back into the engine?
What about compensation to get recall or how about a buy back option?
doesn't not seem like that will be available.
Everybody “wins”.-except us Ram owners. Why the hell do we come out on bottom? We spent $60K+ on these rigs in good faith and now we take it in the shorts with more costs and hassle and probably less performance while EPA and CA get a windfall? That’s BS. I’m all for clean air (and goal of clean air is a good thing), but the implementation here is jacked.
Ram/Cummins could fix this with a software update. The VWs couldn't be fixed because they didn't have DEF that could be turned up - hence the buy back.
Why would the truck use *both* more EGR and more DEF? More EGR means that the engine temps are cooled, resulting in more soot to the DPF and less NOx. This would result in more frequent regens to keep the DPF clear, but would do functionally nothing to the SCR + DEF that happens downstream of the DPF.
More DEF usage means that NOx is running higher, which happens due to less use of the EGR and thus more complete burn of diesel but at the expense of higher NOx, that the SCR + DEF have to deal with post DPF.
You think there will be both an increase in EGR usage and DEF usage at the same time?
Great info.
So recall is good for trucks still stock. Many 13-18 trucks would be deleted. I haven't heard anything about that. So just not do the recall for a deleted truck? Just wondering thoughts as I am not finding results. Great channel. Very informative. Appreciate your up knowledge
Yup, cant complete the recall if the vehicle is deleted. A stock vehicle owner could similarly just disregard it as well if they like, though in both scenarios people just have to be mindful if there are emissions testing requirements. Those who are deleted of course should already be aware of how they plan to get past those tests.
@@ALMX5DP What i figured. Just was wondering if there was anything else for information. Being computer related. Just doing my checks.
No emission checks where I live so not worried at this point. Dictator government. I am sure they will piss more people off with it. Thank
You’re going to have to put everything back to stock if you really want the recall completed. Idk why you’d want to do that unless you need to get it done for registration purposes.
Not back to stock. I was just curious on the computer thing. I hope its not for registration thing. I hear things on that. Why i was just trying to get ahead of things if the dictators go that way. Thanks @@jeffs2809
The big question is what states are going to require the recall to be done in order to register the truck? California is a given, but I’m wondering how many others will jump on the bandwagon.
Do you still have your Power Wagon? Or is that 3500 your new ride?
Well its interesting that CA has a massive budget debt issue. It sure seems fishy to me and they are not declaring how much of that nearly 2 billion CA will get. I have a 2500 2018 RAM and I am holding the recall notice in my hand unfortunately.
So my dealer plugged in about two days ago, my truck is a 2018 Laramie with 70k miles never had a check engine light not one and babied. They call me after the do the recall and say your def service check engine light is on what do u want to do. I was like are you serious
no thats it right there different rules for different people the age old problem that society always struggles with
Shut up!
I have a 2021 that runs just fine. No upgrades needed and I actually did look up my van to see if there was a recall. Fortunately, for me I have no recall for a defeat device so my engine is running normally. One sentence you said, make sure your vehicle gets up to operating temperature to produce less sit. The next sentence you said don’t let them idle. How can you get it up to operating temperature if it doesn’t idle?
The fastest way to get an engine up to operating temp, especially a diesel, is to drive it. At idle, they do produce heat but not much. Give the engine a few seconds after starting to get the fluids circulating, then start driving. Until it gets to operating temp though, be easy on it. It will get up to temp considerably quicker than sitting at idle with no load.
@@91CavGT5 thanks for the advice
@@leatherneckprepper4477 you can also plug the block heater in, or get one installed. That will help if you are in a really cold environment. I live in south Texas so I forget about block heaters because we don’t need them down here.
As I said before Cummins should have put up more of a fight to this lawsuit. After this I would not buy one of their engines.
So does that mean that both my 2022 Ram 2500 and 2023 Ram 3500 will be great candidates for sooting up because the software has been corrected in these years? Just asking for a friend lol Love your Chanel and keep the content coming.
I would not rule it out.
Still love my Rams regardless. Even my 17 2500 bighorn. I service them regularly and far sooner than the factory requirements.
I bought a 2023 ram Laramie Cummins a year ago, tranny went out completely at 7k miles. Dealership fixed it no cost. It went out again at 12k miles it stayed in the shop for 60 days after that. Got it back and no problems tell last month. This time it was puking transmission fluid out of the dip stick tube. I'm really thinking about parking it in my uncle's 200 acre farm. Buy 1000 pounds of tanerite and blowing the truck up and go buy a old Chevy truck
I was wondering if you would do a video on on cleaning of a map sensor for the eco diesel? I heard it will help your vehicle! Is this true?
I could certainly look into it. and Yes if the map sensor is filled with soot it won't give an accurate reading causing power loss.
@@TheGettyAdventures i bought an eco diesel back in may and have been watching lots of videos! Not going to lie I’m a little nervous! It’s working good now and don’t want to go to the dealership! It’s under warranty for now! Any thoughts
Nothing beats the old and extremely reliable 12 valve. No def BS
I'll go ahead and keep my defeat device. I feel that going through more DEF would cause more waste in plastic jugs. So I'm saving the environment by not getting the update.
Al Gore needs to put a big catalytic converter on his private jet and see how it goes!
Who makes the best diesel motors?
Why does the recall not include the RAM 1500 Cummins 6.7L and other applications with the same engine?
The 1500 is not available with a 6.7 Cummins diesel engine, only 2500 and above.
Merci beaucoup.
EPA needs to be dismantled
Word to the wise. If you are not a tech. Never listen to a man wearing Matco swag.