Alot of Alcoholic's are going to hell with thier false God's, Jesus Christ said I am the way the truth and the life, no man commeth unto the father but by me, I'm 20years sober from alcohol gambling, cigerates, drug's, mostly alcohol, I've only realized the bigger book of the big book the Holy Bible, pity no one told me sooner, Jesus died for your sins, ask him to forgive
I'm guessing you're not actually in AA, because if you were you would have heard in our preamble that is read in the opening of every meeting the line stating, 'AA is not allied with any SECT, DENOMINATION, politics, organization or institution'. If the term 'God of your understanding' was not used on Bill W. before he got sober, there would be no AA. There are plenty of Jews, Hindi's, Muslims, Buddhists, and non affiliated who have decades of sobriety in AA. Are you going to tell the American Indian with 30 years, who follows his nation's traditional spiritual path, that their sobriety is built on a falsehood?
@@willdenham I am sober 20 year's and was decieved by the same way you think, Jesus Christ gave us the 12-steps as he goes by the number 12 apostles, I suggest you study more into were thy will be done came from the our father, don't be worried about muslim, hindus or other SECTS Jesus Christ is not a SECT or a religion, Bill W studied the Bible in the Oxford group before AA, so Bill knew who Jesus is, the god of your so called understanding came afterwards and brought Satan in the room's, I used it myself and made up my own god to suit me so I wouldn't have to change, thank God he revealed himself
Plenty of people change with the aid of their HIGHER POWER. I realize the Oxford group are our predecessors, and Jesus and Christ (Christ is not Jesus' last name, but part of the Trinity) is specific to Christianity which would be one of the religions described in our preamble when we say we "are not allied with any". Being in AA 20 years and not having read Bill's story, I think says you are the one who needs to do the studying. In Bill's story he thoroughly explains that if Ebby had not told him that it could be a God of his own understanding, considering Bill was an atheist, he would have never considered asking for God's help to get him sober and engaged with the Oxford's SIX steps. All this aside, Jesus and Christ are never mentioned in our basic text, yet higher power or God are on almost every page of "How it Works", "We Agnostics", and "More About Alcoholism". More importantly, you still have not explained how those who are not Christian have gained and kept their sobriety in AA. It also appears that you may benefit from a Spellers Anonymous if it may exist. Have you heard of auto correct? It's this new thing on board of every computer's software.
@@willdenham I love Frank M. :) I like the way he speaks, very powerfull and very articulated. I listened to him so many times... always can find something new...
I like Joe Taylor too, I don’t get up that way often. Been a few years actually, but whenever I did take the trip up Joe always recognized me and went out of his way to greet me and bend my ear a bit!
Thank You I have heard lots from Frank but I truly love this talk in particular
This is my favorite talk thank you frank m
just heard the live show .its great to actually be here at this time .met his partner too maggie .she was brill .i am lucky to hear him .
Gravitas. That's what comes to mind with Frank M.
I love FRANK, HONEST
Happy Sober day
One day at time
I can't do this by my self
Lemont Oaks Class of 1996. Thanks Frank
I was going there as well🙏🏽
Break you down buld you up. Repeat the word simple brainwashing. But it works
Frank speaks the truth. The truth is that Lemont Oaks is a very special place.
I miss lemont oaks Joe pat d Pete John John John Joe Carl class of 2007.
Me too, nothing like it. I have to make a trip up there sometime soon.
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Alot of Alcoholic's are going to hell with thier false God's, Jesus Christ said I am the way the truth and the life, no man commeth unto the father but by me, I'm 20years sober from alcohol gambling, cigerates, drug's, mostly alcohol, I've only realized the bigger book of the big book the Holy Bible, pity no one told me sooner, Jesus died for your sins, ask him to forgive
A lot of Catholics, Protestants and people of all faiths and no faith are going to hell. Thank god for bringing you to AA
I'm guessing you're not actually in AA, because if you were you would have heard in our preamble that is read in the opening of every meeting the line stating, 'AA is not allied with any SECT, DENOMINATION, politics, organization or institution'. If the term 'God of your understanding' was not used on Bill W. before he got sober, there would be no AA. There are plenty of Jews, Hindi's, Muslims, Buddhists, and non affiliated who have decades of sobriety in AA. Are you going to tell the American Indian with 30 years, who follows his nation's traditional spiritual path, that their sobriety is built on a falsehood?
@@willdenham I am sober 20 year's and was decieved by the same way you think, Jesus Christ gave us the 12-steps as he goes by the number 12 apostles, I suggest you study more into were thy will be done came from the our father, don't be worried about muslim, hindus or other SECTS Jesus Christ is not a SECT or a religion, Bill W studied the Bible in the Oxford group before AA, so Bill knew who Jesus is, the god of your so called understanding came afterwards and brought Satan in the room's, I used it myself and made up my own god to suit me so I wouldn't have to change, thank God he revealed himself
I'm of alcohol, drugs, gambling, 20 year's, cigerates 19 3/4 year's
Plenty of people change with the aid of their HIGHER POWER. I realize the Oxford group are our predecessors, and Jesus and Christ (Christ is not Jesus' last name, but part of the Trinity) is specific to Christianity which would be one of the religions described in our preamble when we say we "are not allied with any". Being in AA 20 years and not having read Bill's story, I think says you are the one who needs to do the studying. In Bill's story he thoroughly explains that if Ebby had not told him that it could be a God of his own understanding, considering Bill was an atheist, he would have never considered asking for God's help to get him sober and engaged with the Oxford's SIX steps. All this aside, Jesus and Christ are never mentioned in our basic text, yet higher power or God are on almost every page of "How it Works", "We Agnostics", and "More About Alcoholism".
More importantly, you still have not explained how those who are not Christian have gained and kept their sobriety in AA. It also appears that you may benefit from a Spellers Anonymous if it may exist. Have you heard of auto correct? It's this new thing on board of every computer's software.
Also Frank has no idea about facts.... Go Joe Taylor!!! He is my hero!
Why do you say this about Frank?
@@willdenham I love Frank M. :) I like the way he speaks, very powerfull and very articulated. I listened to him so many times... always can find something new...
I like Joe Taylor too, I don’t get up that way often. Been a few years actually, but whenever I did take the trip up Joe always recognized me and went out of his way to greet me and bend my ear a bit!